WHO is more selfish Sony or Microsoft ???? >>>POLL

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#1 caligamer
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The last couple of days iv heard a lot of people bashing sony for not allowing xbox to the rights of sony and its related studios movies...but isnt microsoft just as selfish for not allowing GTA4 to share the new DLC in february to all ps3 owners, they paid the 50million and got the exclusive rights and im sure if they pay Sony the right price sony would gladly let xbox360 users download its movies.

business is business

What do you guys think?

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#2 pyromaniac223
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Uh....they're businesses. If they weren't selfish, they wouldn't be successful.
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#3 polishkid99
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there both stupid and will do any thing for money
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#4 iam2green
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so far 100% 10 votes microsoft. i have to say microsoft. i just think they want money. xbox live is $50 a year while wii, ps3, and pc all of free online play. pc is also microsft tried to have pay for pc but failed. thier download content cost money also, pc doesn't cost anything.
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#5 AgentA-Mi6
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Sony is the most selfless company in the world, they released the most expensive system in the market so other companies could grab over 75% of their former marketshare with cheaper consoles and practically gave away all their former third party exclusives, no exclusivity deals, contracts etc, thus renouncing to their advantage.

They realized that winning two gens in a row was too selfish and stepped down so Microsoft and nintendo could surge this one regarless of the billionaire losses, that my friend is NOT a selfish company.

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#6 claywalker21
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how can a company with a 33percent failure rate not be evil and 4 those that say there care they gave us a three year warranty.they only did so they wouldn't get sued and wouldn't have to recall wich is wut any other company would do they dont care about u they just care about trying 2 1up sony
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The last couple of days iv heard a lot of people bashing sony for not allowing xbox to the rights of sony and its related studios movies...but isnt microsoft just as selfish for not allowing GTA4 to share the new DLC in february to all ps3 owners, they paid the 50million and got the exclusive rights and im sure if they pay Sony the right price sony would gladly let xbox360 users download its movies.

business is business

What do you guys think?

caligamer

Just so you know, that 50mi was a LOAN that MS made to R* in exchange, they agreed to make DLC, if the DLC doesnt make at least 50mil, then R* has to repay the balance!!! Why does everyone still think MS just outright paid for it???

"Microsoft basically said that it's happy to pay [Take-Two] in advance $50 million in revenue that [Take-Two] is going to receive from GTA IV downloads," he said.

Microsoft takes about a 30 percent cut from Xbox Live Marketplace content sales, according to Pachter.

Taking that 70/30 split (publisher/Microsoft) and the $50 million advance into account, Microsoft is apparently confident that GTA IV download revenues over Xbox Live will be at least $70 million.

If revenues don't meet that figure, Take-Two will have to return some of the advance"

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#8 110million
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I think its incredibly obvious, since MS uses their own harddrives (which are just the laptop harddrives in a special case), just to make you buy their own overpriced version, as well as controller cables being custom, with no included wi-fi or free online options, its defiantly Microsoft by a disgustingly large margin.
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Sony is the most selfless company in the world, they released the most expensive system in the market so other companies could grab over 75% of their former marketshare with cheaper consoles and practically gave away all their former third party exclusives, no exclusivity deals, contracts etc, thus renouncing to their advantage.

They realized that winning two gens in a row was too selfish and stepped down so Microsoft and nintendo could surge this one regarless of the billionaire losses, that my friend is NOT a selfish company.

AgentA-Mi6


:lol:.....:cry:
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#10 Truth_Hurts_U
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MS donates computers to schools. Bill gates donates money to charity.

:lol: @ anyone that says MS.

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#11 Englandfc1966
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Sony is the most selfless company in the world, they released the most expensive system in the market so other companies could grab over 75% of their former marketshare with cheaper consoles and practically gave away all their former third party exclusives, no exclusivity deals, contracts etc, thus renouncing to their advantage.

They realized that winning two gens in a row was too selfish and stepped down so Microsoft and nintendo could surge this one regarless of the billionaire losses, that my friend is NOT a selfish company.

AgentA-Mi6
Hahahaha, that is truth.
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#12 110million
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MS donates computers to schools. Bill gates donates money to charity.

:lol: @ anyone that says MS.

Truth_Hurts_U
And sony donates puppies to orphanages, :lol: at anyone who thinks bill gates is special for giving a day of his money to schools.
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#13 lawlessx
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guys microsoft didnt just give rockstar 50 million and tell them to make excusive content..it was a loan.

they expect that money back

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#14 finalfantasy94
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No both option?
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#15 nervmeister
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guys microsoft didnt just give rockstar 50 million and tell them to make excusive content..it was a loan.

they expect that money back

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WTF! Seriously?!
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#16 mgs_freak91
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as your example of Sony is quite pointless - sony doesnt have to give RIVAL companies the rights to movies like that - its up to them, so if a 360 owner wants there movies then to bad. they are selfish because they have overpriced games - though they need to make a profit (and i think the devs have a say in pricing as well). while microsoft is selfish for paying people to play online - i find this more annoying! people shudnt have to pay for p2p servers now matter what else they get - lemmings say that a console should be able to play games well! so microsoft should atleast make there gaming services online free as well as the BASIC chat, like Sony - and then charge extra for additional services - because i know that Live has got some great things.
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#17 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

guys microsoft didnt just give rockstar 50 million and tell them to make excusive content..it was a loan.

they expect that money back

nervmeister
WTF! Seriously?!

this was said when the announcement was made...problem started when people didn't read the ENTIRE article and just made threads saying "microsofts pays for exclusive DLC"..and since people around here look at microsoft as greedy bastards they wouldn't bother reading the article to know if it's true or not.
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#18 mhsdrake
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I voted Microsoft just because you have to pay for online when I think it should be free.
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#19 110million
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I voted Microsoft just because you have to pay for online when I think it should be free. mhsdrake
Oh come on, match making is worth the $5 a month isn't it? It also has 100% lag free online right? Oh wait, just match making. Yeah, its worth it.
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#20 skektek
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On one hand you have MS that only cares about money, control, and power and on the other hand you have Sony that is a member of both the MPAA and RIAA; two of the most greedy and anti-consumer organizations to ever exist. Microsoft gets the nudge because of the totality of their greed.
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#21 skektek
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MS donates computers to schools. Bill gates donates money to charity.

:lol: @ anyone that says MS.

Truth_Hurts_U
No MS donates *Windows* computers to schools. MS wouldn't want all those little consumers-to-be to grow up using Macs or Linux now would they?
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#22 Shattered007
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When I worked at Gamestop, Microsoft would send the managers a box full of games for the Xbox...Some punk *** managers (almost every manager) would keep all 30+ copies of the games (even the duplicates) but some managers would share them... and Up in until Microsoft found out that almost every Gamestop Manager was modding there Xbox, Microsoft would give every new manager a Xbox. I still think they send out the box around Christmas every We got **** from Sony...
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#23 KeithTobberman
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I say Microsoft. They can take money from people for a system that is unacceptable poor in reliabilty. It is really terrible in my opinion. I am was/am a victim of there system.
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#24 BobHipJames
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User-created content. Sony sold my console at a loss, gave me a 1% failure rate, a 1 year warranty out of the box, provides high-capacity and high-performance dedicated servers at no cost to me, and creates some of the best first-party software anywhere in the industry. They also support open networking and open platforms. Are they a business? Yes. Are they a stupid business? Yes. It's like they're trying to please me. They're on their knees right now. MS takes the cake for destroying open source programming's future and trying to own the entire gaming and operating systems markets (and nearly succeeding). Windows Live. Case closed.
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#25 def_mode
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MS is selfish...

-online pay

-charge for themes, gamer pics

-charge for supposed to be "free" maps or other DLC's

-charge to change gamertar

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#26 -hells-
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The first time M$ is winning a poll
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#27 dylanmcc
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Microsoft. Makes you pay for online.
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#28 leperphiliac
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Well in the gaming department of things, I can't forgive sony for completely screwing over the orignal PSP owners with the new upddated ones also that time they took 2 months to return my PS2. So I voted Sony.
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#29 delta3074
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MS donates computers to schools. Bill gates donates money to charity.

:lol: @ anyone that says MS.

Truth_Hurts_U
he's not wrong, the bill and melinda gates foundation gave 175 million to tsunami victims
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#30 kyacat
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Both Sony and Microsoft are selfish
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#31 cabjnico
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Any private company is "selfish." Their only goal is to gain revenue, nothing more. Of course, they need to follow customers' feedback in order to sell more, making fanboys think they "care for them." It's not whether which one is more selfish, it's whether which one can gain the most out of its customers ("milking" in sw terms).
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#32 MrSlippery39
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[QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]

MS donates computers to schools. Bill gates donates money to charity.

:lol: @ anyone that says MS.

skektek

No MS donates *Windows* computers to schools. MS wouldn't want all those little consumers-to-be to grow up using Macs or Linux now would they?

 

 

Seriously? A company is horrible for donating its own products to a school? WTF should Microsoft donate then? A fukin zoo?

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#33 mamkem6
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Any private company is "selfish." Their only goal is to gain revenue, nothing more. Of course, they need to follow customers' feedback in order to sell more, making fanboys think they "care for them." It's not whether which one is more selfish, it's whether which one can gain the most out of its customers ("milking" in sw terms).cabjnico

Very well said !

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#34 Shattered007
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[QUOTE="skektek"][QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]

MS donates computers to schools. Bill gates donates money to charity.

:lol: @ anyone that says MS.

MrSlippery39

No MS donates *Windows* computers to schools. MS wouldn't want all those little consumers-to-be to grow up using Macs or Linux now would they?

Seriously? A company is horrible for donating its own products to a school? WTF should Microsoft donate then? A ****** zoo?

XD Post of the mouth comfirmed!

:) I want a Zoo!

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#36 Mlauthemighty
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They're both selfish.

Microsoft takes the prize since they've been muscling out the competition on a larger scale than Sony.

Lol at anyone who thinks these companies do charity for the sake of being kind.

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#37 Shattered007
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[QUOTE="Mlauthemighty"]

They're both selfish.

Microsoft takes the prize since they've been muscling out the competition on a larger scale than Sony.

Lol at anyone who thinks these companies do charity for the sake of being kind.

Yes, because when MacDonalds gives money to the United Negro College Funds they are really trying to hide there connection with Osama Bin-Laden... Do some resurch and comeback with a better arguement instead of weird criptic post... Oh, and I started Skull and Bones!
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#38 Mlauthemighty
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[QUOTE="Mlauthemighty"]

They're both selfish.

Microsoft takes the prize since they've been muscling out the competition on a larger scale than Sony.

Lol at anyone who thinks these companies do charity for the sake of being kind.

Shattered007

Yes, because when MacDonalds gives money to the United Negro College Funds they are really trying to hide there connection with Osama Bin-Laden... Do some resurch and comeback with a better arguement instead of weird criptic post... Oh, and I started Skull and Bones!

Donations are a nice tax shelter.... Also it's great marketing since they will have silly nerds standing up for them on boards.

Edit:

http://txpress.blogspot.com/2006/11/sony-donate-playstation-3-power-for.html

http://www.mediabistro.com/mobilecontenttoday/ebooks/sony_to_donate_15_million_ebooks_to_schools_96308.asp

http://www.retailmenot.com/forum/charitable-causes/23765-sony-style-will-donate-50-000-bcrf.html

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=950DEEDE113DF934A35753C1A96F948260

http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nb20030612a6.html

See? Sony can donate too. They must be saints right?

Actually, Norio Ohga donating his retirement benefits to Nagano town is nice.

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MS is selfish...

-online pay

-charge for themes, gamer pics

-charge for supposed to be "free" maps or other DLC's

-charge to change gamertar def_mode

You forgot one:

 

-Largest donator in the world. Yeah that has selfish written all over it.

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#40 Chaos_HL21
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MS is selfish...

-online pay

-charge for themes, gamer pics

-charge for supposed to be "free" maps or other DLC's

-charge to change gamertar def_mode

Yup, thankfully Sony never doesthat. Oh wait they do, they are starting to charge for themes, there are free ones (but there are free themes and gamer pics for XBL), Aslo sure they used to charge for maps that were suppose to be free. But right now the Gears maps are free and also the Halo 3 maps are free. Now how about those R:FoM maps...

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#41 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="def_mode"]

MS is selfish...

-online pay

-charge for themes, gamer pics

-charge for supposed to be "free" maps or other DLC's

-charge to change gamertar Chaos_HL21

Oh wait they do, they are starting to charge for themes, there are free ones (but there are free themes and gamer pics for XBL), Aslo sure they used to charge for maps that were suppose to be free. But right now the Gears maps are free and also the Halo 3 maps are free. Now how about those R:FoM maps...

You should be more accurate. 98%-99% of all themes on PS3 are free (There's a lot), which is in stark contrast to 360. Also, Halo 3's Maps are not free, the Legendary maps are 600 points for instance. Gamerpics are still free on PS3 also.

 

 

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#42 Chaos_HL21
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[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"][QUOTE="def_mode"]

MS is selfish...

-online pay

-charge for themes, gamer pics

-charge for supposed to be "free" maps or other DLC's

-charge to change gamertar SolidTy

Oh wait they do, they are starting to charge for themes, there are free ones (but there are free themes and gamer pics for XBL), Aslo sure they used to charge for maps that were suppose to be free. But right now the Gears maps are free and also the Halo 3 maps are free. Now how about those R:FoM maps...

You should be more accurate. 98%-99% of all themes on PS3 are free (There's a lot), which is in stark contrast to 360. Also, Halo 3's Maps are not free, the Legendary maps are 600 points for instance. Gamerpics are still free on PS3 also.

Yeah, but there are still some that are not free, people act like everything on the PSN is free and everything on Live cost money (that is not the case), and when Home hits I have a feeling there would be alot more stuff you can buy. That just seems like 'microtransaction heaven' to me. I missed the Legendary map pack my mistake (but I think it'll be free at somepoint maybe when the Mythic map pack comes out).

Both companies are as selfish as each other.

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#43 xtremetcx
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i'd say both.......
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#44 deactivated-619c4c1a1a382
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MS donates computers to schools. Bill gates donates money to charity.

:lol: @ anyone that says MS.

Truth_Hurts_U
except bill gates is not CEO of MS anymore
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#45 rogerjak
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there both stupid and will do any thing for moneypolishkid99
Any company really.
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#46 cuddlesofwar
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Why are we comparing Huge companies to one and other?

What does this have to do with System Wars?

Neither are selfish, as neither of them are a single entity. 

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#47 JediRiff
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there both stupid and will do any thing for moneypolishkid99
Exactly. To everyone that thinks any different, or that one company is more greedy than the other, you need to go back to school. These corporations could give a rats ass about any of us, so long as they are making money. Yes, they are both greedy, but equally so.
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Dear god they are both businesses and their aim is to take our money. Thats as far as it goes for them. If you think that a company is doing something for your benefit your blind, they are just trying to sell more stuff.
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#49 Malta_1980
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Dear god they are both businesses and their aim is to take our money. Thats as far as it goes for them. If you think that a company is doing something for your benefit your blind, they are just trying to sell more stuff.blue_hazy_basic

so true, but its funny seeing fans of consoles trying to find sad excuses in order to prove that the company who's console they dont own is more selfish :)

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#50 joopyme
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how do you get rich if you're always generous?

:?