Who is the best antagonist in gaming this generation?

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#1 deactivated-5f4694ac412a8
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I say Andrew Ryan, but I am too tired to explain right now.

What say you?

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#2 biggest_loser
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Close but Garrett from Thief is the best.

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#3 ieatnoobs18
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Mattias Nilson from mercs 2, lol. I just liked him.
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#5 pyromaniac223
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Sovereign, by quite a stretch.

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#6 Androvinus
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Liquid ocelot, by Far
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#7 emorainbo
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Close but Garrett from Thief is the best.

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I thought he was the protagonist?

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#8 PSdual_wielder
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Liquid Ocelot because you find out that he's not actually the 'bad guy', but a good/bad guy at the same time.

Another one I liked was Visari in KZ2, there's just this charm about evil empowering dictators I'm attracted to.

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#9 biggest_loser
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I thought he was the protagonist?

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He's the main character but you would hardly call him a good person or character lol - well at least not until the end :P

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#10 Tht1Guy7780
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Sovereign, by quite a stretch.

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This. The revelation on Virmire was my favorite moment in gaming this gen.

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#11 Danm_999
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The best antagonist this generation IMO has been GlaDoS (the AI from portal).

That list you provided TC is far too PS3 heavy.

[QUOTE="emorainbo"]

I thought he was the protagonist?

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He's the main character but you would hardly call him a good person or character lol - well at least not until the end :P

An antagonist is innately not good or evil, they just oppose the main character. Garrett is a protagonist, not an antagonist.

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By far The Collector on LBP

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#13 SaudiFury
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damn those are all good choices.

I vote Andrew Ryan. but they're all very good.

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probably dimitri from gta4. he was such a rat
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#15 MischiefmAker
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I think I'll go with Dimentio, Super Paper Mario.

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#16 SaudiFury
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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]

Sovereign, by quite a stretch.

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This. The revelation on Virmire was my favorite moment in gaming this gen.

dude that was one of those gaming moments where i got shivers down my spine. i was playing the game on my sorround sound and when the 'event' happens, wow.. my whole floor just shook from the bass...
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#17 deactivated-5f4694ac412a8
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[QUOTE="MischiefmAker"]

I think I'll go with Dimentio, Super Paper Mario.

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I would've put him, but I didn't want to spoil the game... :P I guess you really aren't, but it kind of gives you an idea of what's going to happen.
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#18 Couth_
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Out of those probably Liquid. Dimitri from GTAIV was pretty good.. Kessler from inFAMOUS :P Also Colonel Radec is the baddest bad guy of all time

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[QUOTE="SaudiFury"][QUOTE="Tht1Guy7780"]

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]

Sovereign, by quite a stretch.

This. The revelation on Virmire was my favorite moment in gaming this gen.

dude that was one of those gaming moments where i got shivers down my spine. i was playing the game on my sorround sound and when the 'event' happens, wow.. my whole floor just shook from the bass...

What game would this be?
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#20 Tht1Guy7780
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[QUOTE="Tht1Guy7780"]

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]

Sovereign, by quite a stretch.

SaudiFury

This. The revelation on Virmire was my favorite moment in gaming this gen.

dude that was one of those gaming moments where i got shivers down my spine. i was playing the game on my sorround sound and when the 'event' happens, wow.. my whole floor just shook from the bass...

it was so epic. The voice, its dialogue. It was the most awe inspiring thing next to the citadel climb. God i love that game.

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#21 pyromaniac223
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[QUOTE="DeathScape666"][QUOTE="MischiefmAker"]

I think I'll go with Dimentio, Super Paper Mario.

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I would've put him, but I didn't want to spoil the game... :P I guess you really aren't, but it kind of gives you an idea of what's going to happen.

You have an ancient Greek Baccanofest?
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#22 Tht1Guy7780
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[QUOTE="SaudiFury"][QUOTE="Tht1Guy7780"]

This. The revelation on Virmire was my favorite moment in gaming this gen.

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dude that was one of those gaming moments where i got shivers down my spine. i was playing the game on my sorround sound and when the 'event' happens, wow.. my whole floor just shook from the bass...

What game would this be?

Mass Effect.

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#24 SparkyProtocol
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I can not decide between Andrew Ryan and Saren. :(
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#25 pyromaniac223
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I can not decide between Andrew Ryan and Saren. :(SparkyProtocol
Compromise and go with Sovereign
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#26 maverick_41
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Andrew Ryan was a pretty bad dude. I honestly think "Through the Fire and Flames" shouldbe up there but oh well.

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#27 DonPerian
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From the ones you mentioned, definitely Andrew Ryan. Close second is Liquid Ocelot in MGS4. Expertly conveyed, yet the motives and intentions are nothing more than cookie-cutter fictionalized warfare concepts you'd find in hundreds of novels at your local bookstore.
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#28 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"]I can not decide between Andrew Ryan and Saren. :(pyromaniac223
Compromise and go with Sovereign

Sovereign is a ship though. Not the antagonist.
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#29 pyromaniac223
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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"]I can not decide between Andrew Ryan and Saren. :(SparkyProtocol
Compromise and go with Sovereign

Sovereign is a ship though. Not the antagonist.

He most certainly IS the antagonist.
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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"]I can not decide between Andrew Ryan and Saren. :(SparkyProtocol
Compromise and go with Sovereign

Sovereign is a ship though. Not the antagonist.

He's more than a ship...

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#31 Tht1Guy7780
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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"]I can not decide between Andrew Ryan and Saren. :(pyromaniac223
Compromise and go with Sovereign

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#32 murat8
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the guy with a crotch lazer from NMH
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#33 pyromaniac223
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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"]I can not decide between Andrew Ryan and Saren. :(Tht1Guy7780

Compromise and go with Sovereign

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#34 MischiefmAker
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the guy with a crotch lazer from NMHmurat8

Destroyman. He was indeed, awesome.

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#35 murat8
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[QUOTE="murat8"]the guy with a crotch lazer from NMHMischiefmAker

Destroyman. He was indeed, awesome.

lol ya that guy:D

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#36 skrat_01
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Two that come to mind

Andrew Ryan

Andrew Ryan

The 'final encounter' with him is one of the most profound events in any game.
Fantastic storytelling devices too.

Lets just forget about Fontain. Ugh.

Glados

http://www.freewebs.com/megamindstorm101/glados.jpg

Another fantastic, compelling character and antagonist.

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#37 cgi15
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Saren from Mass Effect because he wasn't one of those really in your face villains, but you still knew he was a threat. Also, the one of the game endings with him is simply stunning, just because it showed that he wasn't in full control of his actions.

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#38 foxhound_fox
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Mother ****ing Saren... hands down.

EDIt; I also don't get the Andrew Ryan love. He was basically a SHODAN rip-off and wasn't the true antagonist.

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#39 skrat_01
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He was basically a SHODAN rip-off and wasn't the true antagonist.

foxhound_fox

True true, but to a degree, different in themes, and of course encountering them.

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The Taiidan...

Oh wait that was 1999...

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[QUOTE="SaudiFury"][QUOTE="Tht1Guy7780"]

This. The revelation on Virmire was my favorite moment in gaming this gen.

Tht1Guy7780

dude that was one of those gaming moments where i got shivers down my spine. i was playing the game on my sorround sound and when the 'event' happens, wow.. my whole floor just shook from the bass...

it was so epic. The voice, its dialogue. It was the most awe inspiring thing next to the citadel climb. God i love that game.

Agreed. Bioware did a fantastic job with that scene.

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#42 SpinoRaptor24
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Mother ****ing Saren... hands down.

EDIt; I also don't get the Andrew Ryan love. He was basically a SHODAN rip-off and wasn't the true antagonist.

foxhound_fox

He was still a hell of a lot better than Fontaine.

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#43 foxhound_fox
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He was still a hell of a lot better than Fontaine.

SpinoRaptor24


That isn't saying much...

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#44 SpinoRaptor24
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[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]He was still a hell of a lot better than Fontaine.

foxhound_fox


That isn't saying much...

Yeah but he built an underwater city.

Can you name me any other antagonists that built underwater cities?

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#45 stepat201
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Mother ****ing Saren... hands down.

EDIt; I also don't get the Andrew Ryan love. He was basically a SHODAN rip-off and wasn't the true antagonist.

foxhound_fox

He comes no where near Shodan that's for sure, but still his dialogue is terrific and I found him chilling but thought provoking at the same time.

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#46 Solid_Link22
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I'd go with Liquid Ocelot.

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Is it bad that I don't really know any of the antagonists here (beyond the two I have pics of and GLADoS)?

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#48 Vaasman  Online
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I would say uncle Paulie from The Darkness. He's such a huge dick, the whole game.

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Dr. Peace from No More Heroes was pretty awesome, mostly due to his sweet moustache and singing voice.

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#50 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

Mother ****ing Saren... hands down.

EDIt; I also don't get the Andrew Ryan love. He was basically a SHODAN rip-off and wasn't the true antagonist.

stepat201

He comes no where near Shodan that's for sure, but still his dialogue is terrific and I found him chilling but thought provoking at the same time.

I fount him to be quite one-dimensional, actually.