Who is the best antagonist in gaming this generation?

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="pyromaniac223"] Compromise and go with Sovereigngmc2u_64

Dr. Peace from No More Heroes was pretty awesome, mostly due to his sweet moustache and singing voice.

webhead921

He was cool too.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]He was still a hell of a lot better than Fontaine.

SpinoRaptor24

Yeah but he built an underwater city.

Can you name me any other antagonists that built underwater cities?

I fount him to be quite one-dimensional, actually.

Cherokee_Jack

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]I fount him to be quite one-dimensional, actually.

foxhound_fox

He isn't a 'villain', even if he is presented as the antagonist, and as with video game logic, when play games - we don't question why he is the antagonist, we just know our objective is - he has to die....

He is the only sane person still existing there, except for Tanenbaum.

Honestly I think Rapture is wonderful, but odd at the same time. Sure there are cliches, but the wonderful mix of progressive ideologies and philosophies relevant to the times (during raptures creation - its foundations and the moral questions itself raises(and as reflected on by the art deco facade)) makes the story and setting unique; even more so than the infested Van Braun.

Saying that, everything becomes rather stale two thirds of the way through- finding bits for that bomb.... oh and after meeting A-Ryan. What a shame.

Honestly Bioshock is probably the weirdest clash of depth and shallow-ness in a game to date.

Azar Javed and Salamndra from The Witcher

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]He was still a hell of a lot better than Fontaine.

foxhound_fox

You can meet eachother halfway and say Sandher Cohen

Mother ****ing Saren... hands down.

EDIt; I also don't get the Andrew Ryan love. He was basically a SHODAN rip-off and wasn't the true antagonist.

foxhound_fox

Liquid Ocelot one of the best villains ever created.

So hard so many Good villians. Saren is great along with sovereign. Wesker is murderous in the new RE. Just so many good ones. Andrew ryan isn't as much a bad guy as he is hellbent on his ideas and morals.

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

Mother ****ing Saren... hands down.

EDIt; I also don't get the Andrew Ryan love. He was basically a SHODAN rip-off and wasn't the true antagonist.

mo0ksi

SPOILER

Andrew Ryan isn't really the antagonist in Bioshock...

OT: Glados - Portal

SPOILER

Andrew Ryan isn't really the antagonist in Bioshock...

NielsNL

[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

SPOILER

Andrew Ryan isn't really the antagonist in Bioshock...

skrat_01

Fair enough, but as an antagonist I preferred Atlas over Andrew Ryan.

EDIT: But the final fight was lame.

I vote Liquid Ocelot just because Revolver Ocelot is my favorite character from the Metal Gear Series. To be honest, Liquid Ocelot dissapointed me. After Snake Eater I wanted to see some more twirling of his revolvers. I just hope that he's in Rising and Peace Walker because he's the only character to appear in all of the Metal Gear Solids so far, plus he has personal relationships with each of the four snakes (friendly rival to Naked, arch enemy to Solid, and left hand man to Liquid and Solidus.)

[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"] You kidding me right? A rip-off? When they're created by the same writer?

skrat_01

Sovereign, by quite a stretch.

pyromaniac223

Saren (Mass Effect)

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="mo0ksi"] Have you played System Shock 2? If you did then you can see the similarities in story and design, easily. It's one of the reasons why I don't think he's a compelling antagonist. Especially when SHODAN was a more bats*it insane antagonist than AR was. Anywho, I pick the Salamandra (Witcher) and Sovereign

mo0ksi

Bohan never gets the credit he deserves. :(

I liked Bohan. Great voice acting and he wanted absolute power and payed the price. Great boss battle and there was just something about him that made him a great character.

Sovereign from Mass Effect.

The Wii of course, it just need an evil guy moustache.

[spoiler] Jeane or Henry from No More Heroes [/spoiler]

But really Destroy Man or Harvey Moiseiwitsch Volodarskii (I liked the Boss Battle) (DestroyMan was Cool but I didn't like the Battle, and Harvey wasn't that cool but the Battle was great IMO.)

Mother ****ing Saren... hands down.

EDIt; I also don't get the Andrew Ryan love. He was basically a SHODAN rip-off and wasn't the true antagonist.

foxhound_fox

Saren!!

I guess TWEWY main antagnoist...

[spoiler] Yourself? Joshua? Minamoto? Who knows, it was a great ending to an awesome game [/spoiler]

GladOS

I know what he said. I'm just saying that even though Levine created both AR and SHODAN, on paper it would seem that AR is a rip-off of SHODAN's character. Perhaps I should have been clearer on that.mo0ksi

[QUOTE="SaudiFury"][QUOTE="Tht1Guy7780"]

This. The revelation on Virmire was my favorite moment in gaming this gen.

Tht1Guy7780

it was so epic. The voice, its dialogue. It was the most awe inspiring thing next to the citadel climb. God i love that game.

Definitly Saren.

"We impose order on the chaos of organic evolution. You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it."

Everyone here should know who that line comes from.

"We impose order on the chaos of organic evolution. You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it."

Everyone here should know who that line comes from.

MetroidPrimePwn

[QUOTE="mo0ksi"] I know what he said. I'm just saying that even though Levine created both AR and SHODAN, on paper it would seem that AR is a rip-off of SHODAN's character. Perhaps I should have been clearer on that.AdrianWerner

"You live because we allow it. And you will end because we demand it"

I think I'll go with Dimentio, Super Paper Mario.