Who thinks video game graphics has exceeded cgi graphics from the 90's?

in terms of quality and detail and realism

i think so

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXbnZFZUjEI 90's cgi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0yeEdeCOUU heavy rain

If you're talking about in-engine, in-game visuals, then no game has surpassed even 1995's Toy Story by Pixar, especially in terms of texture resolution:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q1rxc96m2w&feature=related

At the very least, the best looking in-game visuals look on-par with Toy Story 1, but if it is graphically superior, it is a very minute and insignificant difference.

If you're talking about in-engine, in-game visuals, then no game has surpassed even 1995's Toy Story by Pixar, especially in terms of texture resolution:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q1rxc96m2w&feature=related

At the very least, the best looking in-game visuals look on-par with Toy Story 1, but if it is graphically superior, it is a very minute and insignificant difference.

Brainhunter

I think that the Ratchet games are nicer looking then Toy Story, at first glance,but when you zoom in on stuff and start analyzingthats where Toy Story is superior.

1993:

Not even close.

Even in the videogame space, i was just playing FF9 earlier and theres no game that looks as good as its CG cutscenes.

>shutdown_202

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[QUOTE="shutdown_202"]>PSNIDCiocio313

I said FF9 earlier before realising it released in 2000. But i still think FF8 CGI looks better than anything out there. Some games have it beat in certain areas (mainly detail) but overall it trashes everything.

13 for comparison sake.

[QUOTE="PSNIDCiocio313"][QUOTE="shutdown_202"]>shutdown_202

I said FF9 earlier before realising it released in 2000. But i still think FF8 CGI looks better than anything out there. Some games have it beat in certain areas (mainly detail) but overall it trashes everything.

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13 for comparison sake.

[QUOTE="PSNIDCiocio313"][QUOTE="shutdown_202"]>shutdown_202

I said FF9 earlier before realising it released in 2000. But i still think FF8 CGI looks better than anything out there. Some games have it beat in certain areas (mainly detail) but overall it trashes everything.

13 for comparison sake.

Yah I loved FF8 cg cutscenes and they are still more polished and better looking than any in game graphics.

FF13 screenshot looks better, except the grass.

SaltyMeatballs

Nah FF8 beat it out in everything going only by cutscenes.

in terms of polygon count and physics...NO WAY!!!

in terms of polygon count and physics...NO WAY!!!

painguy1

If you're talking about in-engine, in-game visuals, then no game has surpassed even 1995's Toy Story by Pixar, especially in terms of texture resolution:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q1rxc96m2w&feature=related

At the very least, the best looking in-game visuals look on-par with Toy Story 1, but if it is graphically superior, it is a very minute and insignificant difference.

Brainhunter

HOLY CRAP! BoPeep is JURI (SSF4)! :shock:

Absolutely.

All the main characters in Toy Story look like they're made out of plastic. WTF is up with that garbage?

[spoiler] :P [/spoiler]

Absolutely.

All the main characters in Toy Story look like they're made out of plastic. WTF is up with that garbage?

MetroidPrimePwn

If you want to talk about in game scenes rendered in real time. Crysis is the closests:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2EGFQByAuc&feature=player_embedded

In game screenshot:

If you want to talk about in game scenes rendered in real time. Crysis is the closests:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2EGFQByAuc&feature=player_embedded

In game screenshot:

Xtasy26

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

If you want to talk about in game scenes rendered in real time. Crysis is the closests:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2EGFQByAuc&feature=player_embedded

In game screenshot:

yugioh3ds

Nope, just look at the video. Silky smooth framerates.

[QUOTE="yugioh3ds"][QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

If you want to talk about in game scenes rendered in real time. Crysis is the closests:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2EGFQByAuc&feature=player_embedded

In game screenshot:

Xtasy26

Nope, just look at the video. Silky smooth framerates.

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="yugioh3ds"] I bet this Crysis screen runs at 1 fpsChrome-

Nope, just look at the video. Silky smooth framerates.

I doubt it looking at his sig. Mine probably cost more and it's less than $800.

Interesting graphics thread, never thought I'll say that again.:P

We have Crysis!

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="yugioh3ds"] I bet this Crysis screen runs at 1 fpsChrome-

Nope, just look at the video. Silky smooth framerates.

Nope, my $640 computer will be able to run it, the guy who posted the video has only a slightly better graphics card than mine (HD 4890). You need $2,000 computer to run Crysis is a fake myth.

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="yugioh3ds"] I bet this Crysis screen runs at 1 fpsChrome-

Nope, just look at the video. Silky smooth framerates.

1993:

Not even close.

Even in the videogame space, i was just playing FF9 earlier and theres no game that looks as good as its CG cutscenes.

shutdown_202

I don't think there's any game that can match 90's CGI graphics especially the Jurassic Park ones. Perhaps mid 80's. I do agree Crysis does come the closest although that's not saying much.

Or maybe this. But as a full blown package like a feature film, there is none.

[QUOTE="painguy1"]

in terms of polygon count and physics...NO WAY!!!

big_orc

polygon count in CGI movies are higher than those of video games and the physics are much more accurate. are u telling me hl2 has a higher poly count than toystory 1?

[QUOTE="big_orc"][QUOTE="painguy1"]

in terms of polygon count and physics...NO WAY!!!

painguy1

polygon count in CGI movies are higher than those of video games and the physics are much more accurate. are u telling me hl2 has a higher poly count than toystory 1?

Physics? What are you talking about? 90's games CGI didn't have physics, it was all pre-drawn, pre-animated FMV cutscenes. There was no physics to speak of... anywhere. This thread is just talking about the differences in visual quality.

Crysis is the closest.

[QUOTE="painguy1"]

[QUOTE="big_orc"] wow this post is so full of fail. Cgi cutscenes still use polygons, and physics, WTF does that have to do with anything? Not every game even on current gen systems use a good physics engine. The only games that have really amazed me with physics is HL2 and crysis(both on the pc, of course). But anyways physics has nothing to do with graphics, it uses a total different engine to do the calculations.raynimrod

polygon count in CGI movies are higher than those of video games and the physics are much more accurate. are u telling me hl2 has a higher poly count than toystory 1?

Physics? What are you talking about? 90's games CGI didn't have physics, it was all pre-drawn, pre-animated FMV cutscenes. There was no physics to speak of... anywhere. This thread is just talking about the differences in visual quality.

If you're talking about in-engine, in-game visuals, then no game has surpassed even 1995's Toy Story by Pixar, especially in terms of texture resolution:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q1rxc96m2w&feature=related

At the very least, the best looking in-game visuals look on-par with Toy Story 1, but if it is graphically superior, it is a very minute and insignificant difference.

Brainhunter

] I think the top picture looks better :P

gameofthering

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

[QUOTE="painguy1"]

polygon count in CGI movies are higher than those of video games and the physics are much more accurate. are u telling me hl2 has a higher poly count than toystory 1?

painguy1

Physics? What are you talking about? 90's games CGI didn't have physics, it was all pre-drawn, pre-animated FMV cutscenes. There was no physics to speak of... anywhere. This thread is just talking about the differences in visual quality.

[QUOTE="painguy1"]

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

Physics? What are you talking about? 90's games CGI didn't have physics, it was all pre-drawn, pre-animated FMV cutscenes. There was no physics to speak of... anywhere. This thread is just talking about the differences in visual quality.

big_orc

[QUOTE="painguy1"]

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

Physics? What are you talking about? 90's games CGI didn't have physics, it was all pre-drawn, pre-animated FMV cutscenes. There was no physics to speak of... anywhere. This thread is just talking about the differences in visual quality.

big_orc

[QUOTE="big_orc"][QUOTE="painguy1"]when it comes to lighting, physics play a huge role.

ferret-gamer

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="big_orc"] They don't use physics engines in CGI movies today. Why would u want to have physics calculations in real time, when its just a movie? Physics engines are not needed for movies, just games.big_orc

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="big_orc"] They don't use physics engines in CGI movies today. Why would u want to have physics calculations in real time, when its just a movie? Physics engines are not needed for movies, just games.big_orc

photorealistic visuals, and on par with real life physics isn't an accomplishment? I don't think you understand the difficulty of emulating real life physics.

in terms of polygon count and physics...NO WAY!!!

painguy1

What do you know about polygon counts?

[QUOTE="painguy1"]

in terms of polygon count and physics...NO WAY!!!

Shad0ki11

What do you know about polygon counts?

i know enough to make something like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwYXDf2vBTg

and this (i know its not the best thing ever, but w/e) do u know what a polygon is? im assuming u do. Alot of gamers these days know what a polygon is. You can have a high polygon count, a low polygon count etc. I dont know what else to say about polygons unless u want me to write a full fledged essay about it. why do bother asking? (nm i just saw ur avatar pic, now i know :P)

[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

[QUOTE="painguy1"]

in terms of polygon count and physics...NO WAY!!!

painguy1

What do you know about polygon counts?

i know enough to make something like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwYXDf2vBTg

and this (i know its not the best thing ever, but w/e) do u know what a polygon is? im assuming u do. Alot of gamers these days know what a polygon is. You can have a high polygon count, a low polygon count etc. I dont know what else to say about polygons unless u want me to write a full fledged essay about it. why do bother asking? (nm i just saw ur avatar pic, now i know :P)

Honestly a map like that would have been better suited and easier to make in the source engine.

[QUOTE="painguy1"]

[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

What do you know about polygon counts?

ferret-gamer

i know enough to make something like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwYXDf2vBTg

and this (i know its not the best thing ever, but w/e) do u know what a polygon is? im assuming u do. Alot of gamers these days know what a polygon is. You can have a high polygon count, a low polygon count etc. I dont know what else to say about polygons unless u want me to write a full fledged essay about it. why do bother asking? (nm i just saw ur avatar pic, now i know :P)

Honestly a map like that would have been better suited and easier to make in the source engine. and too be honest i dont like source. with cryengine. u can just make ur mesh, and import as a cfg in like 20secs. then just reapply the materials which is like another 10 secs. its pretty easy.

yeah but there already is one for source, and even Halo CE (i also prefer cryengine sandbox over source sdk)

We still haven't reached Toy Story 1's level in ingame graphics. Game CGs though? Depends...I think we have surpassed the CG movies that games used, but we are still behind still CG graphics (backgrounds) that the best 90s game used

Honestly a map like that would have been better suited and easier to make in the source engine.

ferret-gamer

[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

[QUOTE="painguy1"]

in terms of polygon count and physics...NO WAY!!!

painguy1

What do you know about polygon counts?

i know enough to make something like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwYXDf2vBTg

and this (i know its not the best thing ever, but w/e) do u know what a polygon is? im assuming u do. Alot of gamers these days know what a polygon is. You can have a high polygon count, a low polygon count etc. I dont know what else to say about polygons unless u want me to write a full fledged essay about it. why do bother asking? (nm i just saw ur avatar pic, now i know :P)

I asked because I assume most people here don't. Can you model game assets? What's the triangle count of the above model?

With the exception of a few mods,we´re not quite there yet.

Oh,and I´m comparing to vg CGI,not movie.

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

Honestly a map like that would have been better suited and easier to make in the source engine.

AdrianWerner

Maybe, but only because in game game graphics is set against other in game graphics, which means nothing will look "off" in the image.

But, if you paired in game graphics against a real backdrop, it would certainly look as out of place, or even more so, as any cgi work.