Why 343 will succeed with Halo 4 and into the Future(new vid)
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Now will all that talent actually move the gameplay forward or will we get another Halo. jg4xchampThe majority of people who buy Halo games over and over, are looking for just another Halo. They're merely looking to have a good time, and not attempt to play the unbalanced mess that was Halo Reach.
[QUOTE="brofists"][QUOTE="soulitane"]Yeah, hopefully they won't react like you do when someone says something bad about vita :osoulitaneI love when fanboys like you start making things up, and putting words in your mouth. Point me to those instances, quote me in the proper context in those instances. Don't just make baseless claim about me my broIf you want one to backup their "baseless claims" then you should do the same. Where is your proof that I'm a fanboy of anything? http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29073972/will-the-vita-have-the-most-ignorant-followers-of-any-platform-?page=7 You seem t have a problem with anyone that doesn't agree with your opinions in that thread, to the point of calling people trolls if they disagreed with you. And what does that prove? In fact, I encourage people to go read that thread. They will see that your are full of it sir, and are exaggerating The only person I called a troll was in fact a troll, and he was trolling, so I called him out on it. You are something else. And I did imply you were a fanboy with the way I worded things. If I'm wrong, I retract that statement.
[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Now will all that talent actually move the gameplay forward or will we get another Halo. AdjacentLivesThe majority of people who buy Halo games over and over, are looking for just another Halo. They're merely looking to have a good time, and not attempt to play the unbalanced mess that was Halo Reach. I'm not talking just multiplayer(though sure armor lock can **** off), but strictly single player. That areas has been a weak link from 2 forward.
[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="brofists"] I love when fanboys like you start making things up, and putting words in your mouth. Point me to those instances, quote me in the proper context in those instances. Don't just make baseless claim about me my brobrofistsIf you want one to backup their "baseless claims" then you should do the same. Where is your proof that I'm a fanboy of anything? http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29073972/will-the-vita-have-the-most-ignorant-followers-of-any-platform-?page=7 You seem t have a problem with anyone that doesn't agree with your opinions in that thread, to the point of calling people trolls if they disagreed with you. And what does that prove? In fact, I encourage people to go read that thread. They will see that your are full of it sir, and are exaggerating And the only person I called a troll was in fact a troll, and he was trolling, so I called him out on it. You are something else. So how exactly am I a fanboy? Proof please. So how would you put someone getting their panties in a bunch?
Just relax bro, ND is a great devoloper (however calling out Bungie as dropping off is ridcilous not everbody is going to like everything they make all the time.)
Reach was by far my favourite Halo game (besides :CE). Halo 3 i thought was a terrible mess in comparison.
[QUOTE="brofists"][QUOTE="soulitane"]If you want one to backup their "baseless claims" then you should do the same. Where is your proof that I'm a fanboy of anything? http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29073972/will-the-vita-have-the-most-ignorant-followers-of-any-platform-?page=7 You seem t have a problem with anyone that doesn't agree with your opinions in that thread, to the point of calling people trolls if they disagreed with you. soulitaneAnd what does that prove? In fact, I encourage people to go read that thread. They will see that your are full of it sir, and are exaggerating And the only person I called a troll was in fact a troll, and he was trolling, so I called him out on it. You are something else. So how exactly am I a fanboy? Proof please. So how would you put someone getting their panties in a bunch? I edited my post and added: lol I see that i did imply you were a fanboy with the way I worded things. If I'm wrong, I retract that statement.
Halo 2 was awesome back in the day, its been my favorite Halo. Reach was terrible disappointing for me. I disliked it. It feels like all the Halo games have been stagnanting since Halo 2. So that's why Bungie has kind of fallen IMO. But anyway, I want to see new things done with Halo already. And I want to see improvements made. Not the "more of the same Call of Duty approach," that Halo has taken lately. For one, I want a massive visual upgrade. The graphics in Reach were laughably bad. The guns need to feel more powerful. There is something off about the mechanics. And the aiming is too sticky. I want to see the aim assists dialed down a bit. An iron site wouldn't hurt either. Also, I want the single player campagin to not suck like they have in basically all Halo games lol. One thing Halo has always had was good level design, but then again that was under bungie. So far I'm a little sceptical, not too interested in yet another Halo, but we'll see what happensReach was by far my favourite Halo game (besides :CE). Halo 3 i thought was a terrible mess in comparison.
walkingdream
[QUOTE="walkingdream"]Halo 2 was awesome back in the day, its been my favorite Halo. Reach was terrible disappointing for me. I disliked it. It feels like all the Halo games have been stagnanting since Halo 2. So that's why Bungie has kind of fallen IMO. But anyway, I want to see new things done with Halo already. And I want to see improvements made. Not the "more of the same Call of Duty approach," that Halo has taken lately. For one, I want a massive visual upgrade. The graphics in Reach were laughably bad. The guns need to feel more powerful. There is something off about the mechanics. And the aiming is too sticky. I want to see the aim assists dialed down a bit. An iron site wouldn't hurt either. Also, I want the single player campagin to not suck like they have in basically all Halo games lol. One thing Halo has always had was good level design, but then again that was under bungie. So far I'm a little sceptical, not too interested in yet another Halo, but we'll see what happensThe graphics in Reach look fantastic! They look kinda average in COOP but they look fantastic for the scale really....Reach was by far my favourite Halo game (besides :CE). Halo 3 i thought was a terrible mess in comparison.
brofists
The rest i can semi understand hopefully we will see a completely new direction for Halo 4.
Halo 2 was awesome back in the day, its been my favorite Halo. Reach was terrible disappointing for me. I disliked it. It feels like all the Halo games have been stagnanting since Halo 2. So that's why Bungie has kind of fallen IMO. But anyway, I want to see new things done with Halo already. And I want to see improvements made. Not the "more of the same Call of Duty approach," that Halo has taken lately. For one, I want a massive visual upgrade. The graphics in Reach were laughably bad. The guns need to feel more powerful. There is something off about the mechanics. And the aiming is too sticky. I want to see the aim assists dialed down a bit. An iron site wouldn't hurt either. Also, I want the single player campagin to not suck like they have in basically all Halo games lol. One thing Halo has always had was good level design, but then again that was under bungie. So far I'm a little sceptical, not too interested in yet another Halo, but we'll see what happensThe graphics in Reach look fantastic! They look kinda average in COOP but they look fantastic for the scale really....[QUOTE="brofists"][QUOTE="walkingdream"]
Reach was by far my favourite Halo game (besides :CE). Halo 3 i thought was a terrible mess in comparison.
walkingdream
The rest i can semi understand hopefully we will see a completely new direction for Halo 4.
They looked pretty damn laughable to me. If Halo 4 has Halo Reach graphics, then I'm already disappointed lol. They need to upgrade the graphics engine big time IMO. "FANTASTIC" graphics would be like Killzone 2/3 & Battlefield 3. But i agree with you in that hopefully we do. Halo 2 has been the last great Halo game that I've personally played. At the time it didn't feel like, " great another Halo game" It was an awesome game. But now Halo has that feeling, and its going to be hard to shake it off. So let's see what Halo 4 does to differentiate itself from all the other Halos.Orgin of employes of development studio does not tell if game be good or bad.... specially that ,we know that they come from so, many studios and the make first real deal game from zero. One for sure, taste will be different, same as you eat same food made by different cooks, there always home something different in tasteShadowriverUBWhat 343 is showing is that they aren't starting from "Scratch" they went after all this talent for a reason. Obviously it doesn't mean your going to automatcally make a good game but it's a pretty good starting point. Just like when a new team enters a pro sport they are often given established stars and good picks. (doesn't mean they will be sucsful but it's better than a bunch of rookies.)
[QUOTE="walkingdream"]The graphics in Reach look fantastic! They look kinda average in COOP but they look fantastic for the scale really....[QUOTE="brofists"] Halo 2 was awesome back in the day, its been my favorite Halo. Reach was terrible disappointing for me. I disliked it. It feels like all the Halo games have been stagnanting since Halo 2. So that's why Bungie has kind of fallen IMO. But anyway, I want to see new things done with Halo already. And I want to see improvements made. Not the "more of the same Call of Duty approach," that Halo has taken lately. For one, I want a massive visual upgrade. The graphics in Reach were laughably bad. The guns need to feel more powerful. There is something off about the mechanics. And the aiming is too sticky. I want to see the aim assists dialed down a bit. An iron site wouldn't hurt either. Also, I want the single player campagin to not suck like they have in basically all Halo games lol. One thing Halo has always had was good level design, but then again that was under bungie. So far I'm a little sceptical, not too interested in yet another Halo, but we'll see what happensbrofists
The rest i can semi understand hopefully we will see a completely new direction for Halo 4.
They looked pretty damn laughable to me. If Halo 4 has Halo Reach graphics, then I'm already disappointed lol. They need to upgrade the graphics engine big time IMO. "FANTASTIC" graphics would be like Killzone 2/3 & Battlefield 3. But i agree with you in that hopefully we do. Halo 2 has been the last great Halo game that I've personally played. At the time it didn't feel like, " great another Halo game" It was an awesome game. But now Halo has that feeling, and its going to be hard to shake it off. So let's see what Halo 4 does to differentiate itself from all the other Halos.Really? At the time they were approaching KZ2 levels i thought (haven't played KZ3)Honestly i thought they looked great for a console FPS game. This is coming from somebody who can run crysis on High/Very High back in 2008.
They looked pretty damn laughable to me. If Halo 4 has Halo Reach graphics, then I'm already disappointed lol. They need to upgrade the graphics engine big time IMO. "FANTASTIC" graphics would be like Killzone 2/3 & Battlefield 3. But i agree with you in that hopefully we do. Halo 2 has been the last great Halo game that I've personally played. At the time it didn't feel like, " great another Halo game" It was an awesome game. But now Halo has that feeling, and its going to be hard to shake it off. So let's see what Halo 4 does to differentiate itself from all the other Halos.Really? At the time they were approaching KZ2 levels i thought (haven't played KZ3)[QUOTE="brofists"][QUOTE="walkingdream"]The graphics in Reach look fantastic! They look kinda average in COOP but they look fantastic for the scale really....
The rest i can semi understand hopefully we will see a completely new direction for Halo 4.
walkingdream
Honestly i thought they looked great for a console FPS game. This is coming from somebody who can run crysis on High/Very High back in 2008.
lol Halo Reach wasn't any where NEAR Killzone 2's level graphically. That has got to be one of the silliest statements I've ever read on here. No offence lol. I'm just saying, I hope they improve the graphics.What 343 is showing is that they aren't starting from "Scratch" they went after all this talent for a reason. Obviously it doesn't mean your going to automatcally make a good game but it's a pretty good starting point. Just like when a new team enters a pro sport they are often given established stars and good picks. (doesn't mean they will be sucsful but it's better than a bunch of rookies.) Thats not what i ment :p game from 0, as far as i know 343 didnt make game that form start to end they made (i give up the fact that they use ready IP... which makes it easy for them, very easy... Halo is one of the brands that sell just for name), thats what i ment from start from 0. Ofcorse that they got experience, i think it's very rare for studio to recrut someone without experience, yet it does not tell if they good or not toghether, they don't have any game to see what they can do toghther. Btw if you look on any other studio, you will find out that there also lot of people that have different past studios too, you can see that on there public CVs, so it's normal thing, specially with new studio ;] And if you didn't notice yet, that video is recrutment video :> it was made to look like godly studio with best people to work with, thats why you might think that they aim to be "best studio in industry" :p truth is all studios aim that high... the goal is to top chart sells isn't XD[QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"]Orgin of employes of development studio does not tell if game be good or bad.... specially that ,we know that they come from so, many studios and the make first real deal game from zero. One for sure, taste will be different, same as you eat same food made by different cooks, there always home something different in tastewalkingdream
[QUOTE="walkingdream"]What 343 is showing is that they aren't starting from "Scratch" they went after all this talent for a reason. Obviously it doesn't mean your going to automatcally make a good game but it's a pretty good starting point. Just like when a new team enters a pro sport they are often given established stars and good picks. (doesn't mean they will be sucsful but it's better than a bunch of rookies.) Thats not what i ment :p game from 0, as far as i know 343 didnt make game that form start to end they made (i give up the fact that they use ready IP... which makes it easy for them, very easy), thats what i ment from start from 0. Ofcorse that they got experience, i think it's very rare for studio to recrut someone without experience, yet it does not tell if they good or not toghether, they don't have any game to see what they can do toghther. Btw if you look on any other studio, you will find out that there also lot of people that have different past studios too, you can see that on there public CVs, so it's normal thing, specially with new studio ;] And if you didn't notice yet, that video is recrutment video :> it was made to look like godly studio with best people to work with, thats why you might think that they aim to be "best studio in industry" :p truth is all studios aim that high... the goal is to top chart sells isn't XDMeh ill believe it if they sell it to me :P[QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"]Orgin of employes of development studio does not tell if game be good or bad.... specially that ,we know that they come from so, many studios and the make first real deal game from zero. One for sure, taste will be different, same as you eat same food made by different cooks, there always home something different in tasteShadowriverUB
Just like when a new team enters a pro sport they are often given established stars and good picks. (doesn't mean they will be sucsful but it's better than a bunch of rookies.) 1985 The miracle on ice. Look it up:)[QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"]Orgin of employes of development studio does not tell if game be good or bad.... specially that ,we know that they come from so, many studios and the make first real deal game from zero. One for sure, taste will be different, same as you eat same food made by different cooks, there always home something different in tastewalkingdream
so basically alll the talent that these devs are doing better without have teamed up to be a part of a bigger fail? Far Cry 3 folks, look no further for FPS immerssion343 industies has an absolute plathor of talent. Past experience from employees ranges from:
- Rare
- Monolith
- Pandemic
- EA
- Pixar
- Kojima productions
- ID Software
- Retro Studios
- Ubisoft
- Raven Software
- Bungie
- Valve
- Bioware
- Rockstar
- Weta (place who made LOTR stuff)
- ect... also some others i didn't mention
And they have the goal of becoming the best studio the gaming industy has to offer! (new vid)
walkingdream
so basically alll the talent that these devs are doing better without have teamed up to be a part of a bigger fail? Far Cry 3 folks, look no further for FPS immerssion That is an amazingly asinine statement.[QUOTE="walkingdream"]
343 industies has an absolute plathor of talent. Past experience from employees ranges from:
- Rare
- Monolith
- Pandemic
- EA
- Pixar
- Kojima productions
- ID Software
- Retro Studios
- Ubisoft
- Raven Software
- Bungie
- Valve
- Bioware
- Rockstar
- Weta (place who made LOTR stuff)
- ect... also some others i didn't mention
And they have the goal of becoming the best studio the gaming industy has to offer! (new vid)
PinnacleGamingP
so basically alll the talent that these devs are doing better without have teamed up to be a part of a bigger fail? Far Cry 3 folks, look no further for FPS immerssion
PinnacleGamingP
:| I'd rather read a Halo novel I've already read than play any Far Cry game
[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"]
so basically alll the talent that these devs are doing better without have teamed up to be a part of a bigger fail? Far Cry 3 folks, look no further for FPS immerssion
Spartan070
:| I'd rather read a Halo novel I've already read than play any Far Cry game
Far Cry 1 on PC was pretty awesome though.[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"]
so basically alll the talent that these devs are doing better without have teamed up to be a part of a bigger fail? Far Cry 3 folks, look no further for FPS immerssion
SpruceCaboose
:| I'd rather read a Halo novel I've already read than play any Far Cry game
Far Cry 1 on PC was pretty awesome though. Only ever played the second one, had no desire to go back to the first. I may pick it up on Steam or something if I see it cheap.Far Cry 1 on PC was pretty awesome though. Only ever played the second one, had no desire to go back to the first. I may pick it up on Steam or something if I see it cheap. Well...don't expect God, since it's aged quite a bit...[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]
:| I'd rather read a Halo novel I've already read than play any Far Cry game
Spartan070
[QUOTE="Spartan070"]Only ever played the second one, had no desire to go back to the first. I may pick it up on Steam or something if I see it cheap. Well...don't expect God, since it's aged quite a bit... I recently plaed through Deus Ex...for the first time :o I'm totally cool with the old school graphics[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] Far Cry 1 on PC was pretty awesome though.SpruceCaboose
[QUOTE="walkingdream"]
And they have the goal of becoming the best studio the gaming industy has to offer! (new vid)
topgunmv
Until microsoft closes them down.
Really doubt that will happen.
Not for at least 20 years. 343 has been given the job to look after Halo. Hence the name 343.
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