Why are Lemmings avoiding Heavenly flop i mean Heavenly sword

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#51 Omnisystem
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I think everyone needs to go and get their definition of FLOP straightened out.
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#52 mwa
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...and the flop train continues for sony
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#53 snipe2004
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Heavenly Sword was hyped AAA and got AA so it flopped theres nothing anyone can do about it. no amount of damage control can change the fact that it flopped. damage controlling makes fanboys look good.

Heavenly sword flopping wont stop me from getting this game and itll be great

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#54 DirrtyNinja
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Aaron Thomas should not be allowed to review games!
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#55 elite_ferns1
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lair's flop was big enough for 2 games lol
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#56 cyprus646
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I think the reason lems and sheep arent making "8.8 TCHBO flop " threads is because it flopped but it didnt LAIR FLOP if it got below a 7.5 then you would see a stickied HS thread but since it got a resonably good score (still a flop tho) theres really no reason to make thread after thread about it.
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#57 SuperMario_46
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Aaron Thomas should not be allowed to review games!DirrtyNinja

Him, Kevin and Jeff should be kicked out of Gamespot for life.

That leaves it with actually good reviewers like Dave or Brad.

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#58 Burnout_Player0
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... ok every lem said it was going to flop but i see a pretty little 8.0.Game is super fun 'specially the demo. ima pick it up myself around christmas. DISCUSS your thoughts!!!

OK WTH it was hyped AA that isnt a flop 0.0!!! its 8.0 -.- maybe you all should go check the score.

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this thread is one of the biggest self-ownage i've seen :lol:

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#59 Burnout_Player0
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It was hyped AAA and it didn't get to AAA status. It's a flop.

I love the hypocrisy. Cows call MP3 and Zelda TP flops, but want to get special treatment when it comes to Heavenly Sword. :|

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cows logics :lol:

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#60 Areola54
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gamespot teh biased.
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#61 Burnout_Player0
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Heavenly Sword [PS3]

Official hype thread
Gamespot review

Results: Hyped AAA [9.0-9.5] - Scored [8.0] - Status: FLOP

/thread

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#62 Burnout_Player0
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[QUOTE="ParkCarsHere"]uh... what? The game flopped... we all know this. What more is there to discuss?ff7isnumbaone

Lair flopped and blue dragon flopped. HS didn;t flop because it was hype AA.

you just self-owned

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#63 Burnout_Player0
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[QUOTE="MaximumD"][QUOTE="Technoweirdo"][QUOTE="leegar88"]

Yeah where is the official thread.

ff7isnumbaone

Check the hype thread archives sticky. It's hyped AAA.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25821752

Edit: Found the link.

OMG! I just checked that Hype thread and realized that Most people who hyped it to be AAA was Lemmings. That's some **** i'm sorry... all Cows was hyping this as AA.

Their was 2 hype threads that i seen. The poll says AA. In this link, I see lemmings and sheep hypying the AAA. So thats a dumb link.

i'm sorry if Heavenly Flop upsets you that much. it'll go away...

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#64 TTDog
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Any truth in the rumour that the game will be renamed "Heavenly Short"?
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#65 deactivated-5cc4321d1eaf7
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Common man lemmings ...

Stop avoiding the fact that 360 doesn't have any JRPG

blue dragon totally flopped way below 8.0 as if it wasn't there...

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#66 NFJSupreme
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No one really cares about the game. It flopped story over move on. No need beating a dead horse.
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#67 akif22
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yeah, it flopped

i'm still surprised at the lack of lemming posts about it

i thought they'd rub it in a bit more

or maybe they've moved on to their own GOW-killer, NG2!

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#68 mikedot
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Indeed... The game did flop... But 8.0 is still a good score...

I'm planning to get it.

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#69 cakeorrdeath
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Common man lemmings ...

Stop avoiding the fact that 360 doesn't have any JRPG

blue dragon totally flopped way below 8.0 as if it wasn't there...

weiliang_1988

What JRPGs does the PS3 have?

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Common man lemmings ...

Stop avoiding the fact that 360 doesn't have any JRPG

blue dragon totally flopped way below 8.0 as if it wasn't there...

weiliang_1988

what do jrpgs have to do with heavenly sword? :?

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#71 Mandingo101
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It was hyped AAA and it didn't get to AAA status. It's a flop.

I love the hypocrisy. Cows call MP3 and Zelda TP flops, but want to get special treatment when it comes to Heavenly Sword. :|

BioShockOwnz
and you are the person who calls blue dragon one of the best games ever or something to that effect right? hypocrisy indeed...
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#72 Mandingo101
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[QUOTE="weiliang_1988"]

Common man lemmings ...

Stop avoiding the fact that 360 doesn't have any JRPG

blue dragon totally flopped way below 8.0 as if it wasn't there...

cakeorrdeath

What JRPGs does the PS3 have?

do you really need a list of the upcoming games? yea it doesnt have no killer ones right now but neither does 360 and it has been out twice as long:|
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#73 Flied_Lice
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Maybe us lemmings are moving on cause we got more games to think about than that flop HS
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#74 cakeorrdeath
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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]

What JRPGs does the PS3 have?

Mandingo101

do you really need a list of the upcoming games? yea it doesnt have no killer ones right now but neither does 360 and it has been out twice as long:|

1. so none then?

2. Who cares how long its been out. The 360 will always have the advantageg of being out longer.

It just seems bizarre to me to attack the 360 for its JRPG library when it actually has the best on all the current gen consoles.

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#75 Flied_Lice
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Common man lemmings ...

Stop avoiding the fact that 360 doesn't have any JRPG

blue dragon totally flopped way below 8.0 as if it wasn't there...

weiliang_1988

Why would lemmings care about JRPGs?

Most lemmings are NA and Euro

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#76 rarsi123
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yeah, it flopped

i'm still surprised at the lack of lemming posts about it

i thought they'd rub it in a bit more

or maybe they've moved on to their own GOW-killer, NG2!

akif22

Its because there's ownage for everyone.

Cows got owned because because they hyped it AAA, and lemmings atleast half the lemmings got owned because they thought it would be A or below.

Generally, and this includes cows, we thought there was a strong possibility it would be a mega flop after ign's review, given that they usually rate higher than gamespot. A few weeks ago, lemmings were flopping all three sony exclusives, but now it appears we have two solid titles, but one huge epic flop.

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#77 V_Isle
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Hyped AAA, flopped like a turd. Game was in develoment for like 4 years and it ended up lasting 7 hours. 7 crappy hours. :lol: Oh btw, that quote in your sig? Uh..don't know how to break it to you, but it's not humorous in anyway, you know, being true and all.
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#78 Mandingo101
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[QUOTE="Mandingo101"][QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]

What JRPGs does the PS3 have?

cakeorrdeath

do you really need a list of the upcoming games? yea it doesnt have no killer ones right now but neither does 360 and it has been out twice as long:|

1. so none then?

2. Who cares how long its been out. The 360 will always have the advantageg of being out longer.

It just seems bizarre to me to attack the 360 for its JRPG library when it actually has the best on all the current gen consoles.

1.i dont know, i dont have a ps3, i know the upcoming ones im waiting for to get a ps3, the ones everyone else is waiting for.

2. its been out longer(advantage) yet it still has built crap for an upcoming rpg library compared to ps3. and what best jrpg are you talking about? havent heard about this which one do you mean?
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#79 legol1
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HS is the perfect exemple of why difficult devlopement is bad for game and dalays are killing ps3 :roll:

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#80 cakeorrdeath
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1.i dont know, i dont have a ps3, i know the upcoming ones im waiting for to get a ps3, the ones everyone else is waiting for.

2. its been out longer(advantage) yet it still has built crap for an upcoming rpg library compared to ps3. and what best jrpg are you talking about? havent heard about this which one do you mean?
Mandingo101

1. Right but there are none out at the moment. Once these games come out people will have an argument but untill then.....

2. No game in particular. It just wins by default for having any at all.

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#81 LosDaddie
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Common man lemmings ...

Stop avoiding the fact that 360 doesn't have any JRPG

blue dragon totally flopped way below 8.0 as if it wasn't there...

weiliang_1988

Cow damage control at its finest!:lol:

What does a JRPG have to do with HFlop?

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#82 Mandingo101
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[QUOTE="Mandingo101"]

1.i dont know, i dont have a ps3, i know the upcoming ones im waiting for to get a ps3, the ones everyone else is waiting for.

2. its been out longer(advantage) yet it still has built crap for an upcoming rpg library compared to ps3. and what best jrpg are you talking about? havent heard about this which one do you mean?
cakeorrdeath

1. Right but there are none out at the moment. Once these games come out people will have an argument but untill then.....

2. No game in particular. It just wins by default for having any at all.

there is JRPG i forget the name of this specific one, but it was on 360 also and it scored higher than blue dragon if i remember correctly like a 7. unless it was a japanese ****RPG by western devs...

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#83 cakeorrdeath
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there is JRPG i forget the name of this specific one, but it was on 360 also and it scored higher than blue dragon if i remember correctly like a 7. unless it was a japanese ****RPG by western devs...

Mandingo101

Enchanted Arms, but as the 360 also has it, it still puts it ahead for the moment.

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#85 Mandingo101
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[QUOTE="Mandingo101"]

there is JRPG i forget the name of this specific one, but it was on 360 also and it scored higher than blue dragon if i remember correctly like a 7. unless it was a japanese ****RPG by western devs...

cakeorrdeath

Enchanted Arms, but as the 360 also has it, it still puts it ahead for the moment.

ahead as in having even more craptastic JRPGs? i can agree with that sure.
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#86 cakeorrdeath
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ahead as in having even more craptastic JRPGs? i can agree with that sure.
Mandingo101

Regardless of how good or bad you think the game is. The 360 still has everything in the JRPG genre the PS3 has and more.

It's not like I brought up JRPGs as a 360 advanatge anyway. I was simply responding to the bizzare critism of it, when it actually has the most.

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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="Mandingo101"]

there is JRPG i forget the name of this specific one, but it was on 360 also and it scored higher than blue dragon if i remember correctly like a 7. unless it was a japanese ****RPG by western devs...

Mandingo101

Enchanted Arms, but as the 360 also has it, it still puts it ahead for the moment.

ahead as in having even more craptastic JRPGs? i can agree with that sure.

Yet the PS3 doesnt even have a crappy JRPG to boast about. Face it the 360 has a better lineup and thats NOT opinion its fact

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#88 Mandingo101
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[QUOTE="Mandingo101"][QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="Mandingo101"]

there is JRPG i forget the name of this specific one, but it was on 360 also and it scored higher than blue dragon if i remember correctly like a 7. unless it was a japanese ****RPG by western devs...

DrkLrdofSth

Enchanted Arms, but as the 360 also has it, it still puts it ahead for the moment.

ahead as in having even more craptastic JRPGs? i can agree with that sure.

Yet the PS3 doesnt even have a crappy JRPG to boast about. Face it the 360 has a better lineup and thats NOT opinion its fact

would you rather have frying turds to eat or nothing to eat at all while you wait for guaranteed golden eggs?

i cant believe people have gotten to the point where they are bragging about crap games as a status symbol almost, amazing...
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#89 cakeorrdeath
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would you rather have frying turds to eat or nothing to eat at all while you wait for guaranteed golden eggs?
Mandingo101

1. Nothing is garunteed.

2. With the 360 you can chose whether to sample or not. The advantage is the choice. Some people may like the taste.

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#90 Mandingo101
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[QUOTE="Mandingo101"]

ahead as in having even more craptastic JRPGs? i can agree with that sure.
cakeorrdeath

Regardless of how good or bad you think the game is. The 360 still has everything in the JRPG genre the PS3 has and more.

It's not like I brought up JRPGs as a 360 advanatge anyway. I was simply responding to the bizzare critism of it, when it actually has the most.

i understand, but its not how i feel about those games, its how gamespot feels about them, these are the scores that matter remember?
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#91 LosDaddie
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[QUOTE="DrkLrdofSth"][QUOTE="Mandingo101"][QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="Mandingo101"]

there is JRPG i forget the name of this specific one, but it was on 360 also and it scored higher than blue dragon if i remember correctly like a 7. unless it was a japanese ****RPG by western devs...

Mandingo101

Enchanted Arms, but as the 360 also has it, it still puts it ahead for the moment.

ahead as in having even more craptastic JRPGs? i can agree with that sure.

Yet the PS3 doesnt even have a crappy JRPG to boast about. Face it the 360 has a better lineup and thats NOT opinion its fact

would you rather have frying turds to eat or nothing to eat at all while you wait for guaranteed golden eggs?

You mean like Heavenly Flop?

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#92 slduncanlaw
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BACK TO TOPIC:

THE REAL REASON HS GETS A PASS FOR FLOPPING:

It's for the reason it flopped - the length. Unlike Lair, which was touted as an incredible achievement and a to-be benchmark of the PS3, HS seems to have achieved what it was touted as being: a beautiful, action-filled game with amazing sound and visuals. The developers accomplished that. Had the game been 15 hours long, the score would have been better. I'm guessing AAA.

And before you jump down my throat, the only console I have this gen is a 360.

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#93 cakeorrdeath
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i cant believe people have gotten to the point where they are bragging about crap games as a status symbol almost, amazing...
Mandingo101

That's not what is happening. People arn't praising the 360s JRPG library, merely pointing out that everyone else is doing worse.

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#94 Mandingo101
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[QUOTE="Mandingo101"]would you rather have frying turds to eat or nothing to eat at all while you wait for guaranteed golden eggs?
cakeorrdeath

1. Nothing is garunteed.

2. With the 360 you can chose whether to sample or not. The advantage is the choice. Some people may like the taste.

we can make a bet on it if you feel strongly about that. i can look at square enix history, level 5 history, atlus history and say without a doubt that these games are all guaranteed to score higher than blue dragon without a doubt.

like i said i would be willing to bet on it. and if people like the taste of turds its called lack of good taste.
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#95 cakeorrdeath
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we can make a bet on it if you feel strongly about that. i can look at square enix history, level 5 history, atlus history and say without a doubt that these games are all guaranteed to score higher than blue dragon without a doubt.

like i said i would be willing to bet on it. and if people like the taste of turds its called lack of good taste.
Mandingo101

I would be willing to bet on it too. That doesn't make it garuanteed, just likely.

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#96 Mandingo101
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You mean like Heavenly Flop?LosDaddie
theres a difference between a "Great" game, and a mistwalker game :lol:

[QUOTE="Mandingo101"]

i cant believe people have gotten to the point where they are bragging about crap games as a status symbol almost, amazing...
cakeorrdeath

That's not what is happening. People arn't praising the 360s JRPG library, merely pointing out that everyone else is doing worse.

this guy...

Yet the PS3 doesnt even have a crappy JRPG to boast about. Face it the 360 has a better lineup and thats NOT opinion its factDrkLrdofSth
looks like he is...


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#97 LosDaddie
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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]

[QUOTE="Mandingo101"]would you rather have frying turds to eat or nothing to eat at all while you wait for guaranteed golden eggs?
Mandingo101

1. Nothing is garunteed.

2. With the 360 you can chose whether to sample or not. The advantage is the choice. Some people may like the taste.

we can make a bet on it if you feel strongly about that. i can look at square enix history, level 5 history, atlus history and say without a doubt that these games are all guaranteed to score higher than blue dragon without a doubt.

like i said i would be willing to bet on it. and if people like the taste of turds its called lack of good taste.

Cows are on serious damage control if JRPGs are the only straws they can grasp at.....in a Heavenly Flop thread!!

:lol: I love it!! :lol:

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#98 LosDaddie
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[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]You mean like Heavenly Flop?Mandingo101
theres a difference between a "Great" game, and a mistwalker game :lol:


there's also a difference between a great game (PGR3) and a flop (Motorstorm)!!

Or how about GEOW (superb) to RFlopOfMan? :lol:

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#99 Mandingo101
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[QUOTE="Mandingo101"]

we can make a bet on it if you feel strongly about that. i can look at square enix history, level 5 history, atlus history and say without a doubt that these games are all guaranteed to score higher than blue dragon without a doubt.

like i said i would be willing to bet on it. and if people like the taste of turds its called lack of good taste.
cakeorrdeath

I would be willing to bet on it too. That doesn't make it garuanteed, just likely.

so you agree with me. yes not guaranteed, but its pretty much a done deal. theres certain games that are basically guaranteed to be good, games like MGS4, mass effect, gran turismo 5, halo 3, etc. the jrpg i mentioned are in that category, all be it not on the same grand scale(except the FF13 games) but still...
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#100 Mandingo101
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Cows are on serious damage control if JRPGs are the only straws they can grasp at.....in a Heavenly Flop thread!!

:lol: I love it!! :lol:

LosDaddie
yea i dont really know why the other guy brought it up either but the thread went in that direction


[QUOTE="Mandingo101"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]You mean like Heavenly Flop?LosDaddie

theres a difference between a "Great" game, and a mistwalker game :lol:


there's also a difference between a great game (PGR3) and a flop (Motorstorm)!!

Or how about GEOW (superb) to RFlopOfMan? :lol:

those really dont equate to blue dragon, this game was suppose to be the JRPG to finally kill the final fantasy series, even the dev hyped it to that level and said he wanted to crush final fantasy. and it got a 6.0...