Why Are Most 360 games not even 720p?

Seems pretty poor really. Especially after all the hype regarding the GPU.teh_cell

Oh well, I guess ignorance does have a name here on the GS forums>>>>teh_cell:lol:

I can't stand blind fan-boy crap like this.

[QUOTE="winner-ps3"]

dvds cant hold HD resolutions period! thats why we have new disc types blurau and hd-dvd

note there are many ps3 exclusives that run at 720p, 1080p and if u have played them u can notice the difference, ps3 exclusive games sharper images

Steakdinner

wow, you REALLY dont know what your talking about. 360 games arent even ON HDDVD first of all, and there ARE already HD games! Some even 1080p like VF5, table tennis and i beleive sonic is too. I hope your head didnt just explode, i tried to make it as simple as i could.

Exactly! Also I was playing PC games in 1280x1024 (about 380,000 pixels higher than 720p) from about 2003 onwards. What provides greatHD graphics is the hardware they run on not some Blue-Ray or HDVD format!!

I have played COD 4 on PC @ 1440x900 and compared it to COD 4 on 360. Now dispite the PC looking sharper at this res the 360 still looks damn good, even better if you run through VGA. I was suprised to find its only600p on 360, I didn't notice it.

As for 'Steakdinner' The PC version of COD 4 can go even higher than 1080p native, and it only came on the same format Disc as the 360 version. Get your facts straight first!

Because developers and most people agree that increased graphical fidelity is more impressive than an increase in resolution at the cost of fidelity.

Only the PC will give high both.

XaosII

Yeah. Think it like this, the devs don't use 720p and use something lower in order to have like better lighting or texture detail.

[QUOTE="Always-Honest"]that's nonsense. Some, not all. try, just TRY to keep some reality on this forum. it's not "liar wars"BobHipJames

Yeah....but apparently PGR....COD4.....Halo 3.

Are there any others that any of you guys know of?

I believe the reason for sub-720p resolutions on the 360 has to do with tiling being a pain with the framebuffer. Sub-720p resolutions can actually be processed without tiling by the eDRAM die.

no buts. just keep it real. system wars is turning in to a place where stupidity and lies rule these days.

There are also PS3 games that don't run in their promised resolution (like none of the big games are true 1080P).

Most (almost ALL) people here wouldn't have noticed a single thing if it wasn't told.

This gen machines are just NOT powerfull enough to render a BIG game (not VF5) in true 1080P.

GT5 will NOT be true 1080P at 60fps. mark my words.

[QUOTE="BobHipJames"]

[QUOTE="Always-Honest"]that's nonsense. Some, not all. try, just TRY to keep some reality on this forum. it's not "liar wars"Always-Honest

Yeah....but apparently PGR....COD4.....Halo 3.

Are there any others that any of you guys know of?

I believe the reason for sub-720p resolutions on the 360 has to do with tiling being a pain with the framebuffer. Sub-720p resolutions can actually be processed without tiling by the eDRAM die.

no buts. just keep it real. system wars is turning in to a place where stupidity and lies rule these days.

There are also PS3 games that don't run in their promised resolution (like none of the big games are true 1080P).

Most (almost ALL) people here wouldn't have noticed a single thing if it wasn't told.

This gen machines are just NOT powerfull enough to render a BIG game (not VF5) in true 1080P.

GT5 will NOT be true 1080P at 60fps. mark my words.

they do it because they care more about games than stats, there is no point upscaling if it was designed to fun below 720p anyway it dosent make a damed bit of difference come to think of itthegoldenpoo

If you meant "it was designed to be fun", then they lowered the res to put in HDR. What does that have to do with fun?

Seems pretty poor really. Especially after all the hype regarding the GPU.teh_cell

What do you mean most? A lot are 720p or above, and would you like me to name the ps3 games under 720p? there are quite a few, and several "1080p" games aren't even the full 1920x1080...

dvds cant hold HD resolutions period! thats why we have new disc types blurau and hd-dvd

note there are many ps3 exclusives that run at 720p, 1080p and if u have played them u can notice the difference, ps3 exclusive games sharper images

winner-ps3

Disc space has nothing to do with the resolution a game runs at, thought I would let you know.

[QUOTE="Always-Honest"][QUOTE="BobHipJames"]

[QUOTE="Always-Honest"]that's nonsense. Some, not all. try, just TRY to keep some reality on this forum. it's not "liar wars"HuusAsking

Yeah....but apparently PGR....COD4.....Halo 3.

Are there any others that any of you guys know of?

I believe the reason for sub-720p resolutions on the 360 has to do with tiling being a pain with the framebuffer. Sub-720p resolutions can actually be processed without tiling by the eDRAM die.

no buts. just keep it real. system wars is turning in to a place where stupidity and lies rule these days.

There are also PS3 games that don't run in their promised resolution (like none of the big games are true 1080P).

Most (almost ALL) people here wouldn't have noticed a single thing if it wasn't told.

This gen machines are just NOT powerfull enough to render a BIG game (not VF5) in true 1080P.

GT5 will NOT be true 1080P at 60fps. mark my words.

ehh... it supports 1080p.. so you can upscale it... forced upscale (you have to uncheck 720p..) uncharted, CoD4 (640P), etc.

didn't you know?

[QUOTE="Always-Honest"][QUOTE="BobHipJames"]

[QUOTE="Always-Honest"]that's nonsense. Some, not all. try, just TRY to keep some reality on this forum. it's not "liar wars"HuusAsking

Yeah....but apparently PGR....COD4.....Halo 3.

Are there any others that any of you guys know of?

I believe the reason for sub-720p resolutions on the 360 has to do with tiling being a pain with the framebuffer. Sub-720p resolutions can actually be processed without tiling by the eDRAM die.

no buts. just keep it real. system wars is turning in to a place where stupidity and lies rule these days.

There are also PS3 games that don't run in their promised resolution (like none of the big games are true 1080P).

Most (almost ALL) people here wouldn't have noticed a single thing if it wasn't told.

This gen machines are just NOT powerfull enough to render a BIG game (not VF5) in true 1080P.

GT5 will NOT be true 1080P at 60fps. mark my words.

That doesn't mean it's full 1080p, it's not 1920x1080...as long as the verticle resolution of 1080 is intact..your right. But the Horizontal resolution is at 1280.

Cod4, Cod4, Skate, Jerihco, Darkness, Pirates, Def Jam, etc are all games on the ps3 that too run under 720p. They have a few 1080 games that only have 960 horizontal resolution as well.

It's not just the 360. If B3D's count is correct,the ps3may have a few more 1080 games, but they also have more games that are under "720p".

Seems pretty poor really. Especially after all the hype regarding the GPU.teh_cell

Because the ps3 is teh best :roll:

Seems pretty poor really. Especially after all the hype regarding the GPU.teh_cell

The majority of the games are 720p. Some are 640p as well. The same can be said for the PS3 as well. If you think all their games are 1080p, you'd be mistaken. Most of their games are 720P or 640p as well.

[QUOTE="teh_cell"]Seems pretty poor really. Especially after all the hype regarding the GPU.ChiChiMonKilla

For real "high def" gaming your only choice is the pc, when I play crysis,ut3,cod4,tf2 ect then look at the same games on my 360 or ps3 it's just sad (the last 2 games).

Consoles are getting better but not close to the graphical level on pc. Next year pc games & hardware will get even better. What's really funny is how bad wii games look compaired to 360 and ps3 games let alone the pc lmfao.

Why would it be sad? You do know that the XBox 360 and PS3 doesn't have a Geforce 8800 Ultra in it or 2 GB of RAM, right? :roll: So of course the PC is going to be able to do true HD. It has more power then the game consoles. PC hardware is upgraded every 6 months.:o Game consoles is ungraded every 5-6yrs. So of course the game console won't be on the same level as the PC each year. That's a given. This is why you really can't compare the 2 platforms when it comes to gaming. ;)

Seems pretty poor really. Especially after all the hype regarding the GPU.teh_cell

What are you talking about every single game is in at least 720p there is not even one exception. Moreover the xbox 360 upscales every game to 1080p. The ps3 only does that with movies not games.

What are you talking about every single game is in at least 720p there is not even one exception.

VladTheImpaler

[QUOTE="gromit007"]Very very few games on the 360 or PS3 run at 720p or even 1080. Not even the almighty GT5.HuusAsking

why don't PS3 games upscale to 1080i?...while all 360 games do...

-D3MO-

Most of them do. They didn't at first, but all PS3 games support 1080i now.

Seems pretty poor really. Especially after all the hype regarding the GPU.teh_cell

Um its happening more and more with the PS3 too. Devs are realizing that its better to go with a lower resolution because the gane looks better overall. It happens more often with the 360 because there is the added benifit of using the edram was the frame buffer.

That doesn't mean it's full 1080p, it's not 1920x1080...as long as the verticle resolution of 1080 is intact..your right. But the Horizontal resolution is at 1280.

Cod4, Cod4, Skate, Jerihco, Darkness, Pirates, Def Jam, etc are all games on the ps3 that too run under 720p. They have a few 1080 games that only have 960 horizontal resolution as well.

It's not just the 360. If B3D's count is correct,the ps3may have a few more 1080 games, but they also have more games that are under "720p".

Innovazero2000