[QUOTE="coonana"][QUOTE="Ryusuken"]If this rumor turns out true (this soon...) this is  telling one thing about MS that all know, but dont want to admit, and a aspect that MS looses against Sony and Nintendo (to a lesser level...Nintendo tends to do the same in the handheld market anyways). MS will simply disconsider its earlier buyers, alienating its fans and bringing problems to themselves.
If this Zephyr is able to play HD-DVDs games, the fanboyish claim that more space isnt needed goes down imediately. This, of course, **** their fanbase. All the PR wars that has been running in the last few months goes to hell if this rumor goes true. And Im dont even speaking about the price, the principal fanboy weapon against Sony....Do you think this will be cheap? Not likely.
So, it turns true, the MS fanbase got ******.
Thats my opinion on this Zephyr project rumor, but this is exactly this. A rumor. One that will problably not happen (as so many others).
Ryusuken
NO that is incorrect. Nintendo is the least to milk its fans. The handhelds are the only thing that it redesigned but it only minimally upgrades. At the most better lighting, better design, and its more conveniently small. They also maintain the price. What MS is rumored to do is basically adding alot more especially for graphics whores who drool over the miniscule effect of HD on gaming. Current 360 fans cannot fully upgrade their old 360s to what this rumored redesign could be and with the stuff they can by its just a crapload of addons and adapters.
PS2 had a couple of redesigns like PSX and the latest one. PSX was milkage but it was a failure the second redesign was just making it smaller and sexier so it was justified. But Sony basically milks its fans with everything thats why they are called "cows." MS has been very loose with redesigns with their PCs and now alledgedly their consoles.
Note the bolded, please. These are my main points. And while some of your points are right, I did forget to get more direct at what I call the Nintendo doing the same as MS. While Nintendo does exactly what you said, its quite common to simple forgets the previous handheld and go strong to the next one. Example: a friend of mine bought a GBA. He loved, and so did us, for he let us play as well. Soon enough the DS came and behold, the GBA almost or died in games. My friend got pissed, and so did the rest of us....So you see, its like MS and its previous consoles. They abbandon the users as soon as the newer one is out. So, there is the 'TO A LESSER LEVEL THAN MS'.Â
The core X360 is even still on production? I dont know. Its quite a while since I've saw one, and thats was when i was in Japan last year, in a trade in store, for the price of a Nintendo DS Lite. I've never seen one here in Brazil either.
This Zephyer is a rumor that is creating great waves on the net. And while I think it will be directed at the 'graphics whores' as you call'em, if it comes to be as I thought it can be, MS users/fans will be being 'milked' as you say. In such a little time.Thats what piss me off. If this had come to happen in the end of this year, or the next one, I wouldnt be this concerned about. And that was my opinion. You have yours, and I have mine. All the three will 'milk' their products, one way or another. I just think that coming out this soon with a redesign, pushing the same thing they bashed about their rivals is simply pathetic, specially if it ends prejudicating its fanbase.
If this action is true whatever you consider Nintendo to be doing as milkage is nothing, almost not worth noting in the shadow of MS potentially faulty move. Your GBA to DS example is pointless. That is a whole new system not a redesign so it has no bearing in this areguement. On top of that GBA had been out for a very long time and it was ready for a next gen jump (surprisingly the GBA is still going strong). Many people buy forrunner consoles right before the release of a new one like the morons that bought PS2s over Christmas instead of waiting for a PS3.
So if you consider what I said here I think youll understand because your not a senseless fanboy like the others in this thread. You have a good point all companies especially electronic companies milk. I know Nintendo milks as well but far less than the competition as you can see.
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