Why are some of us calling PSP a failure?

[QUOTE="bforrester"][QUOTE="bulletmath"]

[QUOTE="bforrester"]

He understands, he's just too blinded by hate of all things Sony to be capable of reasonable discourse. This dude is always bashing all things Sony.

DeadMan1290

no i'm not

Yes you are. If you'd like, I can try to dig up some of your post history for illustration. You're not fooling any of us, dude.

Do it!!!!....I'm going to enjoy this:lol:

It wasn't as bad as I thought. I found 1 post where he was getting a PS3 and was excited. I take back what I said for now.

[QUOTE="bulletmath"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"]

but it's not failure

Tnasty11

it came second place in a two horse race. what would you call it, a success?

The N-Gage was discontinued a year ago or so.. If im not mistaken...

And well.. Thats like saying that Neo Geo and the Jaguar where console competitors.. Which they where, but not serious ones..

It wasn't as bad as I thought. I found 1 post where he was getting a PS3 and was excited. I take back what I said for now.

bforrester

next week my son!!!!!

i've sold my 360 on ebay as well. Not impressed with it at all

[QUOTE="bforrester"]

It wasn't as bad as I thought. I found 1 post where he was getting a PS3 and was excited. I take back what I said for now.

bulletmath

next week my son!!!!!

i've sold my 360 on ebay as well. Not impressed with it at all

My apologies.Did not mean to sully your good name. Hope you enjoy your PS3...love mine.

My apologies.Did not mean to sully your good name. Hope you enjoy your PS3...love mine.

bforrester

No problem. Do you have warhawk?

There is an official system wars thread for Warhawk here I'll put in my ID as soon as i get everything sorted. I'm getting resistance as well if you ever fancy a game

[QUOTE="DeadMan1290"]

Apparently what you say has to count around here.

bulletmath

OK then, you win. The PSP may have got owned in every single way but still

But still....

[QUOTE="bforrester"]

My apologies.Did not mean to sully your good name. Hope you enjoy your PS3...love mine.

bulletmath

No problem. Do you have warhawk?

There is an official system wars thread for Warhawk here I'll put in my ID as soon as i get everything sorted. I'm getting resistance as well if you ever fancy a game

I've had my PS3 since Feb 07 and STILL haven't gotten it connected online! I think my ISP is the problem, but I may have a bad ethernet port (hope this isn't the case, but I don't know how to test this on a PS3). I'm supposed to use a password when configuring my DSL connection on the PS3, but I can never get it to connect. I'm more inclined to blame Verizon than the hardware. I may have to put more effort into this. The more I think about it, the more I'm starting to yearn for some online play.

It is not a failure.. it is doing extremely well.StrifeXIII

sony just has morons marketing for them now

that they cnat get it together

It is not selling more than ds, and it didn't kill Nintendo. But on the other hand it is not the next gamegear, and it didn't flop like ngage.

it has more AA+ games than DS.

So.. Why PSP is a failure?

StrifeXIII

The PSP list of Failure

Bad Multimedia
- more than twice as big as the ipod
- terrible software
- Memory stick required

Bad Games
- Most high rated games ports or multiplatform titleS
- Worse third party support than the DS
-Worse first party support than the DS
-losing support every day

Bad hardware
- 3 hour battery life
- load times
- The Square button sticks and is unresponsive
- UMD Drive is obnoxiously loud
- stiff unresponsive D-PAd
- Analogue nub
- useless wifi switch

Bad Redesign
-looks exactly the same as the original
- negligible difference in battery lifebulletmath

You honestly are a troll. Jesus, the square button's stopped sticking since it released in the Americas. "Obnoxiously loud" my ass... you hear it spin once then never again. "useless wifi switch"...? Guess you never bothered to play a game online-oh wait ,that's right! You've never owned one, and you never will. So exactly what is the point of arguing who has their head lodged so firmly in their ass that they won't even give the opposing handheld a chance? Oh well, might as well keep on discrediting his "points". "stiff unresponsive D-pad"... honestly, where do you come up with this stuff? The stiffness and responsiveness depends on the game, not the PSP itself. And when you say "load times" do you honestly know what you're talking about? When people say that the load times are long, they mean how long it takes the game itself to start. After that, nearly every PSP game is smooth sailing aside from MC3. "3 hour battery life"... do you really need to play on full brightness in the daytime? No? That's what I thought. Hmm, what's that? Suddenly the battery life's 6-7 hours? Well no ****, sherlock. You just learned the purpose of the "change brightness" button.

"More than twice as big as the iPod". You're right. However, the PSP's screen doesn't suck for watching videos; the iPod's does. "terrible software". Do you mean the UI? It's very intuitive, and while it can get annoying if you're storing hundreds of songs... didn't you buy it to use as a GAMING handheld? "Memory stick required". Oh noes, I have to spend $20 on a 1GB memory stick that can hold 200 songs, 3 movies and thousands of pics and games :cry:

"Most high rated games ports or multi-platform". Wrong and wrong, troll. The only good PSP games that are multi-platform are the GTAs, Syphon Filter, Twisted Metal, Burnout Legends and Tekken: Dark Ressurection. Let's see here, that's six good games out of how many? 30? Honestly bulletmath, get a life. "Worse third-party support than the DS". True. But, it also means that we're spared from a lot of **** 3rd party "non-games". "Worse first-party support than the DS" You should already know by now that that's completely based on opinion and opinion only. "losing support everyday"... lol, more like gaining support everyday. For every one developer that leaves, 20 homebrew devs fill that person's place.

"The redesign looks exactly like the first PSP". Yeah, and you know why? Unlike the DS Phat, there was nothing glaringly wrong with the design of the PSP original. "negligible difference in battery life". You really don't bother to research your claims, do you? If you use the battery that comes with it, then you'd be right. However, if you use an original PSP battery, you get double the battery life. So what is that? 10-12 hours?

You lose.

[QUOTE="bulletmath"]The PSP list of Failure

Bad Multimedia
- more than twice as big as the ipod
- terrible software
- Memory stick required

Bad Games
- Most high rated games ports or multiplatform titleS
- Worse third party support than the DS
-Worse first party support than the DS
-losing support every day

Bad hardware
- 3 hour battery life
- load times
- The Square button sticks and is unresponsive
- UMD Drive is obnoxiously loud
- stiff unresponsive D-PAd
- Analogue nub
- useless wifi switch

Bad Redesign
-looks exactly the same as the original
- negligible difference in battery lifea_ratchet_fan

You honestly are a troll. Jesus, the square button's stopped sticking since it released in the Americas. "Obnoxiously loud" my ass... you hear it spin once then never again. "useless wifi switch"...? Guess you never bothered to play a game online-oh wait ,that's right! You've never owned one, and you never will. So exactly what is the point of arguing who has their head lodged so firmly in their ass that they won't even give the opposing handheld a chance? Oh well, might as well keep on discrediting his "points". "stiff unresponsive D-pad"... honestly, where do you come up with this stuff? The stiffness and responsiveness depends on the game, not the PSP itself. And when you say "load times" do you honestly know what you're talking about? When people say that the load times are long, they mean how long it takes the game itself to start. After that, nearly every PSP game is smooth sailing aside from MC3. "3 hour battery life"... do you really need to play on full brightness in the daytime? No? That's what I thought. Hmm, what's that? Suddenly the battery life's 6-7 hours? Well no ****, sherlock. You just learned the purpose of the "change brightness" button.

"More than twice as big as the iPod". You're right. However, the PSP's screen doesn't suck for watching videos; the iPod's does. "terrible software". Do you mean the UI? It's very intuitive, and while it can get annoying if you're storing hundreds of songs... didn't you buy it to use as a GAMING handheld? "Memory stick required". Oh noes, I have to spend $20 on a 1GB memory stick that can hold 200 songs, 3 movies and thousands of pics and games :cry:

"Most high rated games ports or multi-platform". Wrong and wrong, troll. The only good PSP games that are multi-platform are the GTAs, Syphon Filter, Twisted Metal, Burnout Legends and Tekken: Dark Ressurection. Let's see here, that's six good games out of how many? 30? Honestly bulletmath, get a life. "Worse third-party support than the DS". True. But, it also means that we're spared from a lot of **** 3rd party "non-games". "Worse first-party support than the DS" You should already know by now that that's completely based on opinion and opinion only. "losing support everyday"... lol, more like gaining support everyday. For every one developer that leaves, 20 homebrew devs fill that person's place.

"The redesign looks exactly like the first PSP". Yeah, and you know why? Unlike the DS Phat, there was nothing glaringly wrong with the design of the PSP original. "negligible difference in battery life". You really don't bother to research your claims, do you? If you use the battery that comes with it, then you'd be right. However, if you use an original PSP battery, you get double the battery life. So what is that? 10-12 hours?

You lose.

Lol, is there any PSP thread in SW that didn't get trolled by bulletmath/NorthlandMan...how sad.

Its a flop in system wars sense. It doesnt mean the psp is not a failure. But it is a flop.

It was marketed to be the "final nail in nintendos coffin" to wipe them out in the one area that nintendo still had. EVERYONE expected the psp to crush the ds. If you were sony, you wouldnt go into a console war thinking you were going to lose. Sony thought they would win, as did loads of analysts. I remeber being in SW at the launches and EVERYONE in SW expected the psp to crush the ds.

The fact of the matter is the psp failed to beat the ds. It's a flop. END OF STORY.

Yea you have to use hombrew xause your own handheld cant get support fropm a real company. Second you have to get a **** memory stick when the memory can just be on the **** game. What happens if you lose the tiny memory stick .......o yea then your done. Third wtf is with the load times the ds hardly has any load times. Fourth the psp d-pad and also the little nub thing SUCK trust me. The dsd-padis alot better than the psps. SO NO I GUESS YOU LOSE bl33kda58

If one is too stupid to back up their save data on the computer, then they deserve it.

And wow at your last comment... "I THINK THE PSP DPAD AND STICK SUCKS SO THEREFORE IT SUCKS!!!"

Too many goddamn little kids using this site...

It was hyped to do things and simply put it failed on all accounts to do those things. These include.

[QUOTE="cyborgjak427"]Because Sony hyped it to be a DS killer, and it isn't. I still think it's a good handheld, mostly because of its multimedia features.serg_15

didnt ds come out after the psp. anyway whats with this ds halo killing crap? if sony did not say this is a ds or halo killer then they didnt say it, stop acting like the media, bringing BS on to the community

You honestly are a troll. Jesus, the square button's stopped sticking since it released in the Americas. "Obnoxiously loud" my ass... you hear it spin once then never again. "useless wifi switch"...? Guess you never bothered to play a game online-oh wait ,that's right! You've never owned one, and you never will. So exactly what is the point of arguing who has their head lodged so firmly in their ass that they won't even give the opposing handheld a chance? Oh well, might as well keep on discrediting his "points". "stiff unresponsive D-pad"... honestly, where do you come up with this stuff? The stiffness and responsiveness depends on the game, not the PSP itself. And when you say "load times" do you honestly know what you're talking about? When people say that the load times are long, they mean how long it takes the game itself to start. After that, nearly every PSP game is smooth sailing aside from MC3. "3 hour battery life"... do you really need to play on full brightness in the daytime? No? That's what I thought. Hmm, what's that? Suddenly the battery life's 6-7 hours? Well no ****, sherlock. You just learned the purpose of the "change brightness" button.

"More than twice as big as the iPod". You're right. However, the PSP's screen doesn't suck for watching videos; the iPod's does. "terrible software". Do you mean the UI? It's very intuitive, and while it can get annoying if you're storing hundreds of songs... didn't you buy it to use as a GAMING handheld? "Memory stick required". Oh noes, I have to spend $20 on a 1GB memory stick that can hold 200 songs, 3 movies and thousands of pics and games :cry:

"Most high rated games ports or multi-platform". Wrong and wrong, troll. The only good PSP games that are multi-platform are the GTAs, Syphon Filter, Twisted Metal, Burnout Legends and Tekken: Dark Ressurection. Let's see here, that's six good games out of how many? 30? Honestly bulletmath, get a life. "Worse third-party support than the DS". True. But, it also means that we're spared from a lot of **** 3rd party "non-games". "Worse first-party support than the DS" You should already know by now that that's completely based on opinion and opinion only. "losing support everyday"... lol, more like gaining support everyday. For every one developer that leaves, 20 homebrew devs fill that person's place.

"The redesign looks exactly like the first PSP". Yeah, and you know why? Unlike the DS Phat, there was nothing glaringly wrong with the design of the PSP original. "negligible difference in battery life". You really don't bother to research your claims, do you? If you use the battery that comes with it, then you'd be right. However, if you use an original PSP battery, you get double the battery life. So what is that? 10-12 hours?

You lose.

a_ratchet_fan

OWNED!!!!!!!!!!

go home kid, oh and dont come back until you buy a PSP and play the games

the PSP is my favourite flop because PSP fanboys aren't smart enough to realise what a POS it is. They try and defend it with the stupidest arguments ever heard while everyone just laughs at them and their flop bulletmath

how is it a POS?? its got more AA titles then the DS, about the same amount of AAA. yes its not selling as much but when you ask why the PSP sucks outside of sales they can only say *** like umm too many ports, have you looked at the DS games??? way more ports. Yes in terms of sales as of now the PSP is a flop but it did somthing no other handheld could do, break Nintendos Monopoly. You know what I think your scared, scared that the PSP slim or a PSP2(if there is one) might steal Nintendos sales and you cant live with sony beating Nintendo at the only thing there good at nowadays(handhelds)

You dont like to read do you? look at the other guy I quoted, if you read what he said you would see he countered every argument you hadsparkypants

i read it and he was wrong. i have quotes from noted videogame critics to back me up, he has nothing apart from being a fanboy

[QUOTE="sparkypants"]You dont like to read do you? look at the other guy I quoted, if you read what he said you would see he countered every argument you hadbulletmath

i read it and he was wrong. i have quotes fomr noted critics to back me up, what does he have apart from his blind fanboyism?

Link to these critics please....

oh and I dont know about him but I have a PSP too and the whole square sticking thing is just BS so thats blindfanboyism if you ask me. oh and if you did research youwould see the PSP has the same amount of AA titles so thats blindfanboyism too...I could keep going but I have to goto a Dinner thing BBS ;)

[QUOTE="sparkypants"]You dont like to read do you? look at the other guy I quoted, if you read what he said you would see he countered every argument you hadbulletmath

i read it and he was wrong. i have quotes from noted videogame critics to back me up, he has nothing apart from being a fanboy

*sigh*...

http://www.playstationpro2.com/psp_faq.html

16. Is it true that the square button is defective in all PSPs?

If you open the PSP, you will notice that the square button (or the sensor, or whatever the hell you want to call it) runs into the edge of the LCD. This affects the overall feel of the button. Sony had several options. They had to either leave it alone, shrink the screen, make the size of the handheld bigger, shrink the buttons, or move the face buttons closer to the right edge, which would make it uneven compared to the buttons on the left side. After weighing its options, leaving it alone was apparantly the best solution. I guess they didn't want to disappoint people by shrinking the screen or making the buttons smaller which would probably be a problem for adults.

Personally, when I first got my PSP, the square button felt a little different than the other buttons and it would get stuck sometimes when I pressed it. The button presses always registered in the game, but it would get stuck and it would pop back up on its own after a couple seconds. This usually happened after button mashing in fighting games.

If you fast-forward to today, I think I broke the button in, because it no longer gets stuck. It still feels squishy and less "springy" than the other buttons, but it never seems to get stuck anymore. Luckily, the square button is usually the least used button out of the four, and developers know about its problems, so I'm sure they will try and design their games were the square button isn't used too often.

Update: All American PSPs had the square button fixed before they were sent to stores. All Japanese PSPs shipped in January or later have been fixed as well.

So what are you gonna say now, Bullet? That you imported the PSP from Japan when it released there despite the fact that you hate it? Right...

And for you to hate a system you own that much... what games did you buy? Did you get like 20 copies of Smart Bomb or something?!

[QUOTE="StrifeXIII"]

It is not selling more than ds, and it didn't kill Nintendo. But on the other hand it is not the next gamegear, and it didn't flop like ngage.

it has more AA+ games than DS.

So.. Why PSP is a failure?

Ontain

flop here is missing the expectations. the expectations of the psp were to be #1 and kill the DS. it's a total flop in that regard.

Sony never out right said "we're going to kill the DS market". Dont put words into their mouth. The only time I can recall a dev. outright saying "we're going to kill a specific thing" it was Tribes: Aerial Assault on the PS2. The back of the box says, and I quote, "Goodbye Halo".

I read here the other day that the PSP has more titles with an 8 or above here than the DS does. I have a DS but there have been very few good games for quite awhile now. I did a tally about a month ago and in the previous 6 weeks the average DS score was a 5.9. I'll soon be getting a psp and have already bought several games for it that interest me like Wipeout Pure, Burnout legends, Syphon Filter dark Mirror, DJ max portable 2, Lumines2... I think both systems have good titles if you choose wisely and it'll be nice having both to increase my options when it comes to buying a game. I like my DS alot but sometimes it reminds me of American Idol...it may be #1 but that doesn't mean it's the best.mtburdell

You chose your games wisely... although I'm wondering if you care about story progression when it comes to Syphon Filter. If you do, then go ahead and keep it. Otherwise, the sequel is coming out this month, with revamped online play, better graphics and new gameplay features like blind-fire. The same thing goes for Wipeout Pure; Wpeout Pulse is coming out in a few short months, and unlike Pure it has full online play & customizable skins. Otherwise though, they're great buys and I hope you enjoy your PSP when you get it!

ive heard that sony only wanted a piece of the portable market that nintendo had monopolised. however, im not sure if sony has made a profit off the psp(i have never seen any figures). tnh, im kind of thinking of selling my ds for a psp since i havent really picked it up in the last year. the main reason i havent yet is because im hoping they release a version with a longer battery life. LoG-Sacrament

Then you're in luck. The PSP slim actually can have twice the battery life, IF you use an original PSP battery. Weird, huh? How it works is that the PSP slim battery is twice as energy efficient as the PSP originals's battery... :)

*sigh*...
http://www.playstationpro2.com/psp_faq.html
a_ratchet_fan

Notice this post from former Gamespot EIC Greg Kasavin, regarded as a great games journalist.

"When the intial reports came out about the unresponsive square button, I scoffed. Well, they were right. Playing a precise game like Tekken, it's annoying that one of the most commonly used attacks in the game (left punch, mapped to the square button by default) is less responsive than the other attacks."

I think i'll trust him and my own experiences over "playstation pro". and if you'' notice you'll se that everything i said was true, the fact that you dismiss it so readily reflects on you, not me

LOL, you do realize that there are hundreds of sources that say the exact same thing. Do I really have to list all of them for you to realize that you're talking out of your ass? Or are you too lazy to google it yourself?a_ratchet_fan

I guess Greg Kasavin is lying then

what a fanboy

[QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"]ive heard that sony only wanted a piece of the portable market that nintendo had monopolised. however, im not sure if sony has made a profit off the psp(i have never seen any figures). tnh, im kind of thinking of selling my ds for a psp since i havent really picked it up in the last year. the main reason i havent yet is because im hoping they release a version with a longer battery life. a_ratchet_fan

Then you're in luck. The PSP slim actually can have twice the battery life, IF you use an original PSP battery. Weird, huh? How it works is that the PSP slim battery is twice as energy efficient as the PSP originals's battery... :)

orly? i heard it briefly mentioned in ign's e3 coverage, then never heard about it again so i figured it was a mistake. i may just pick one up then.

[QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"]LOL, you do realize that there are hundreds of sources that say the exact same thing. Do I really have to list all of them for you to realize that you're talking out of your ass? Or are you too lazy to google it yourself?bulletmath

I guess Greg Kasavin is lying then

what a fanboy

I guess the dozens of sources that say otherwise are all liars too. :roll:

[QUOTE="StrifeXIII"]

It is not selling more than ds, and it didn't kill Nintendo. But on the other hand it is not the next gamegear, and it didn't flop like ngage.

it has more AA+ games than DS.

So.. Why PSP is a failure?

Ontain

flop here is missing the expectations. the expectations of the psp were to be #1 and kill the DS. it's a total flop in that regard.

that only applys to games

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3138532

heres another link the only fanboy here is you

It was hyped to be a DS killer, especially when GTA was announced for it and obviously DS is still around (and destroying the PSP in sales)

as for the games I think its about even with the DS so in that regard I'm happy with my purchase, yet it is still a flop based on the hype