Why are Sony Exclusives not called out on for being boring/ not original?

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#1 hearsofironthre
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I never understood this. How can a game like Killzone 3 get an 8.5 when TONS of people flat out say the campaign is boring (which killzone 2's put everyone I know to sleep) and the worst part is People consider Killzone 3's graphics to be 10000x better than anything on the 360. Now killzone 3 is the best looking console game I would say BUT GUESS WHAT? its a 1 player linear, corridor shooter with a 5 hour singleplayer and 3 modes online... Guess what happens when Killzone 3 tries to do OFFLINE 2 player co op? Its buggy and **** as hell, with framerate drops everywhere. Now people alawys mentino how halo reach's graphics suck comapred to killzone 3 Halo reach has 4 player online+offline campaign mode, it has up to 16 players on forge mode at once, theatre mode, etc and why isnt the amazing halo reach engine talked about more? If killzone 3 cant even have 2 player OFFLINE co op like ***** halo 1 did in 2001 how on earth are people impressed? Honestly why would anyone play killzone 3 instead of black ops? The story is universally accepted to suck how is that "Alright"? How can a game get an 8.5 when the singleplayer is so flawed? The story doesnt just suck it actually takes away from the singleplayer ive seen multple reviews mention. The multiplayer has 3 modes and changes such few things and yet it gets an 8.5 WTF?
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#4 Teuf_
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If you want to know why a reviewer gave a game a score they did, then read the review.

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#5 heretrix
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Because they usually aren't boring and look fantastic.

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#6 22Toothpicks
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If you want to know why a reviewer gave a game a score they did, then read the review.

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Using logic? In...SW? Get out my internets. :x
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#7 Badosh
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Reviews are opinions.

Some people think Uncharted is boring.

Some people think Gears is boring.

Why should it matter?

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#8 jg4xchamp
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Because lots of games don't called out for bull crap. Gears of War got away with a poor netcode, and Halo gets away with a lot of stupidity.
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#9 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Originality is overrated.
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#10 lafigueroa
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Because lots of games don't called out for bull crap. Gears of War got away with a poor netcode, and Halo gets away with a lot of stupidity. jg4xchamp
You forgot "lol Resistance"
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#11 GreenGoblin2099
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All of a sudden Halo and CoD are original.

*sigh*

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#12 heretrix
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If you want to know why a reviewer gave a game a score they did, then read the review.

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That's too much work. It's so much better to come up with asinine conspiracy theories.

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#13 Ratchet_Fan8
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As long as its not a shooter,it can be quite unique Look at Infamous,it may not be bring alot to the table as an open-world/sandbox adventure game,but it was pretty darn good game and had that unique Comic/choice making options
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#14 deactivated-594be627b82ba
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why am i having fun playing them since tc say they are boring. I'm must be doing something wrong. plz tc show me how to play games so that they are no longer fun

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#15 Postal_Guy
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It flopped and this lem is still not satisfied? If I was a lem I would still be posting vids all over youtube saying that KZ3 flopped.

and: ''How can a game get an 8.5 when the singleplayer is so flawed?'' *looks at MW2* righhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhht....

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#16 deactivated-5dd711115e664
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There is so much wrong with your post I'm not even sure where to begin.

First off, your thread title implies that ALL sony exclusives are boring an unoriginal. This is opinion at best, at false at worst. And your supposed support for your percieved favoritism of Sony games is nothing more than your own opinion that Killzone 3 is bad? If Killzone 3 was so terrible then why is it getting consistenly good scores from gaming critics?

I have Killzone 2 but won't get Killzone 3 because I'm not a huge fan of FPS's. But Killzone 2 was hardly boring. There was something big and explody and cool happening throughout that entire game. It never once slowed down. If the game had a major flaw it was the fact that there was literaly no story. You start the game being told you are invading the planet to get the general, or whatever, and that is literally the whole game. So no story, but hardly boring action.

And finally, this is the System Wars forum. Every single game ever released gets bashed by somebody for some ridiculous reason. Games that don't score 10s here are called flops. And yet IF a game does score a 10 people bash it even more. Sales don't matter unless they help your cause, and graphics don't matter unless you have the best. Exlcusives for the other consoles suck until they are ported over and suddenly they are the best games ever, etc, etc, etc.

But still, it all just boils down to you hate Killzone and decided to make an extremely whiny, fanboy thread about it without any real evidence backing your opinion. And opinions without facts are called biases.

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#17 mrmusicman247
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I'm guessing you didn't read the review of Killzone 3?
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#18 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Because lots of games don't called out for bull crap. Gears of War got away with a poor netcode, and Halo gets away with a lot of stupidity. lafigueroa
You forgot "lol Resistance"

I also forgot a lot of other games. It was just easier to post 360 titles in this case given the OP
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#19 hearsofironthre
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so everyone skipped over the part where I prove the graphics are not impressive on Killzone? also LOL at the guy who was talking about infamous, that game was the biggest POS boring crap ive ever played. The demo I was nearly crying at how boring it was
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#20 Badosh
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The demo I was nearly crying at how boring it washearsofironthre
really now?
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#21 GreenGoblin2099
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Stick to your 360 and whine no more.

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#22 mrmusicman247
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so everyone skipped over the part where I prove the graphics are not impressive on Killzone? also LOL at the guy who was talking about infamous, that game was the biggest POS boring crap ive ever played. The demo I was nearly crying at how boring it washearsofironthre
The reason why everyone skipped it is because it's just not true.
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#23 hearsofironthre
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[QUOTE="hearsofironthre"]so everyone skipped over the part where I prove the graphics are not impressive on Killzone? also LOL at the guy who was talking about infamous, that game was the biggest POS boring crap ive ever played. The demo I was nearly crying at how boring it wasmrmusicman247
The reason why everyone skipped it is because it's just not true.

So killzone 3's OFFLINE 2 player co-op is 100% playable while halo 1 for xbox original in 2001 is unplayable? and halo 3 and halo reach's online + offline 4 player campaign mode is unplayable?
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#24 RoOodriGowW
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Halo is boring as hell IMO , it doesn't matter if I can share the boreness with another ,a couple of other , or three other people, again it's just my opinion and I'm probably minority.It's basically a consensus Reach's story sux , halo's only got its multiplayer going for it , much like call of duty , two franchises that I completely lost my interest over the years.I haven't had the opportunity to play offline co op in kz3 so I can't say anything but its single players is the freshiest for me , the multiplayer too , with integrated objectives and whatnot , not that I reall care for the latter.

Well as you can see they're all opinions.

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#25 tagyhag
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Just because a game isn't original doesn't mean it can't be fun.
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#26 mrmusicman247
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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"][QUOTE="hearsofironthre"]so everyone skipped over the part where I prove the graphics are not impressive on Killzone? also LOL at the guy who was talking about infamous, that game was the biggest POS boring crap ive ever played. The demo I was nearly crying at how boring it washearsofironthre
The reason why everyone skipped it is because it's just not true.

So killzone 3's OFFLINE 2 player co-op is 100% playable while halo 1 for xbox original in 2001 is unplayable? and halo 3 and halo reach's online + offline 4 player campaign mode is unplayable?

I was talking about the graphics. :lol:
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#27 TheMoreYouOwn
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Because they're not. Post under your real account.
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#28 telefanatic
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[QUOTE="hearsofironthre"]The demo I was nearly crying at how boring it wasBadosh
really now?

I knew it the controlls are still to heavy for these COD brotherins ! I for one loved the demo and got the game on reserve DAY ONE BABY!!!

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#29 deactivated-5c8e4e07d5510
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Because it's more fun to hate on Halo/CoD because they're more popular.
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#30 deactivated-5c8e4e07d5510
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Post under your real account.TheMoreYouOwn
Coming from a level 11 account. :lol:

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#31 ActicEdge
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Because you call out an opinion when it presents factually incorrect information. Not when they say something completely subjective that you just happen to disagree with.

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#32 hearsofironthre
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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"][QUOTE="hearsofironthre"][QUOTE="mrmusicman247"] The reason why everyone skipped it is because it's just not true.

So killzone 3's OFFLINE 2 player co-op is 100% playable while halo 1 for xbox original in 2001 is unplayable? and halo 3 and halo reach's online + offline 4 player campaign mode is unplayable?

I was talking about the graphics. :lol:

How is large frame drops and laggy offline campaign mode not part of the graphics? You consider graphics simple textures?
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#33 abuabed
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Because they usually aren't boring and look fantastic.

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Exactly, you don't need to be innovative nor original but do damn well.
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#34 funsohng
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so everyone skipped over the part where I prove the graphics are not impressive on Killzone? also LOL at the guy who was talking about infamous, that game was the biggest POS boring crap ive ever played. The demo I was nearly crying at how boring it washearsofironthre
I agree with you, inFamous demo was painfully boring. And thank god I still bought it because the game itself was amazing. EDIT: besides, things like Demon's Souls, Folklore, and Valkyria Chronicles are very original, if not at least refreshing.
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#35 lowkey254
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Boring is an opinion. Halo 3 -Reachare boring to me, but KZsarenot, go figure. It's all depending on what you like and how you like it.

I think TC should post under their real screen name and stop hiding.

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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"][QUOTE="hearsofironthre"] So killzone 3's OFFLINE 2 player co-op is 100% playable while halo 1 for xbox original in 2001 is unplayable? and halo 3 and halo reach's online + offline 4 player campaign mode is unplayable?hearsofironthre
I was talking about the graphics. :lol:

How is large frame drops and laggy offline campaign mode not part of the graphics? You consider graphics simple textures?

Yes, because inFamous, LittleBigPlanet, SOCOM, MAG, Warhawk, Twisted Metal, Motorstorm, Valkyria Chronicles, and Heavy Rain are all "boring and unoriginal." :roll:

As for the offline co-op, I played it with a friend a couple nights ago. I noticed maybe one framerate drop. Otherwise, it was very playable. I've played through worse framerate drops in single player games like Fallout 3.

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#37 -ArchAngeL-777-
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Because they are not boring and are original.
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#38 Michael0134567
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If you want to know why a reviewer gave a game a score they did, then read the review.

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That's not how you start a topic.
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#39 jasonharris48
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To be fair TC a lot of exclusives titles to come out this gen aren't known for being original. But that didn't stop them from being good games.

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#40 mrmusicman247
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[QUOTE="hearsofironthre"][QUOTE="mrmusicman247"][QUOTE="hearsofironthre"] So killzone 3's OFFLINE 2 player co-op is 100% playable while halo 1 for xbox original in 2001 is unplayable? and halo 3 and halo reach's online + offline 4 player campaign mode is unplayable?

I was talking about the graphics. :lol:

How is large frame drops and laggy offline campaign mode not part of the graphics? You consider graphics simple textures?

You claimed that the graphics were not impressive. Which is not true. no the frame rate might drop. But it definitely doesn't make it unplayable. So stop complaining about a game you don't like and go back to Halo.
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#41 Messiahbolical-
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Personally I find Halo, Gears, and Forza games every year to be boring. :?
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#43 hexashadow13
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[QUOTE="Guppy507"]Because it's more fun to hate on Halo/CoD because they're more popular.meatgrinderz

hating on anything 360 is more fun here because this place is cow central. but say something about a ps3 exclusive and you've got the herd after you. i don't think there's a single killzone 3 thread without some cow, completely unprovoked, totally bashing halo. it's some strange psychosis they have.

You mean all fanboys? Find me a single killzone thread where Gears or Halo aren't brought up.
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#45 NWA90s
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"shooter with a 5 hour singleplayer and 3 modes online"

Ever played a killzone game? If so, I hope you played something called WARZONE. Five hour long campagin? Try 8 hours.

BTW, why don`t you use your original account? Also why do people think 8.5 is a bad score? 10 is the best a game cane get. 10 - 1.5 = 8.5. Which means the game is only ONE and a HALF point from getting the highest score.

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#46 nbessiner
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You only name one exclusive as an example and you counter it with Halo? Your post doesn't really fit the title. I think you should change the topic title to "How did Killzone 3 score so high?" or something

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#47 NWA90s
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What I ask is how could Black Ops (aka Lag Ops) score a 9.0 on GG when the game has unreliable connection, overpowered killstreak, gunship which kills with two bullets, the single player? The enemy has a weapons of MASS DESTRUCTION we must kill them and SAVE THE WORLD and lifes of thousands of innocents! Oh and the russians are the bad guys...AGAIN! Why did Black Ops deserve a 9.0 and why didn?t Killzone 3 deserve a 8.5 TC? **** online, same BS campaign, only thing good to the game is ZOMBIES, and that`s not orginial either is it? Tell me why do COD games score 9s when they are basically the SAME damn thing. It has been running on the same engine since COD4 damn it. *runs to the kitchen, takes a COLD glass water*

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#48 Keiji993
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So apparently if a game is an PS3 exclusive it's automatically boring and unoriginal? But then you only use one game as an example?
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#49 bachilders
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I consider every Xbox 360 exclusive to be boring except Forza, and it's not original in any way. PS3 exclusives are far and away better than xbox, although they still can't touch pc.

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#50 Scootydowop
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Because they're usually very pretty games.