Why are Sony Exclusives not called out on for being boring/ not original?

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#51 Snakemaster9
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[QUOTE="TheMoreYouOwn"]Post under your real account.Guppy507

Coming from a level 11 account. :lol:

Whats wrong with level 11? With 1000+posts?

Compared to the level 1 posts 9 trolling KZ3. :X

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#52 ManicAce
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It thought KZ2's campaing was boring as heck but gave it a 8.5 anyway, not every game needs to be all things, if the online is great then a bad singleplayer/splitscreen shouldn't really detract from it. Also, KZ2 feels pretty different from most shooters so I wouldn't call it completely unoriginal, can't speak for KZ3 though.

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#53 Rage010101
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i recommend you research the word "opinion" very thoroughly. For example "i think/in my opinion" halo and cod is boring and very much unoriginal.

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#54 JohnF111
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linear, corridor shooter with a 5 hour singleplayer and 3 modes online...hearsofironthre
Hmm... I think i've heard this before... Somewhere... It really does ring a bell... Something with guns i'm sure of it :roll: Everyone does it get over it.

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#55 emperorzhang66
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I personally think reach looks better graphically. but i don't game on a console for graphics . So its all the same to me.
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#57 Twin-Blade
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[QUOTE="hearsofironthre"] linear, corridor shooter with a 5 hour singleplayer and 3 modes online...JohnF111

Hmm... I think i've heard this before... Somewhere... It really does ring a bell... Something with guns i'm sure of it :roll: Everyone does it get over it.

You're not talking about Halo are you?

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#58 meetroid8
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"]

[QUOTE="hearsofironthre"] linear, corridor shooter with a 5 hour singleplayer and 3 modes online...Twin-Blade

Hmm... I think i've heard this before... Somewhere... It really does ring a bell... Something with guns i'm sure of it :roll: Everyone does it get over it.

You're not talking about Halo are you?

He's talking about every shooter in existence.
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#59 Floppy_Jim
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I remember the s***storm when Uncharted 2 was marked down for unoriginality at Gametrailers. Butts were hurt and petitions were in the offing. The reason Sony exclusives generally aren't called out for being boring is because they generally aren't boring. That simple, chief. Now for originality the likes of LBP, Demon's Souls, MAG, Modnation at least tried to have a "hook" or do something a little different. The likes of GoW, Uncharted, Infamous, Ratchet, Killzone are widely agreed to be so good at what they do that this farcical "originality" jibber jabber doesn't matter.
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#60 Twin-Blade
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[QUOTE="Twin-Blade"]

[QUOTE="JohnF111"] Hmm... I think i've heard this before... Somewhere... It really does ring a bell... Something with guns i'm sure of it :roll: Everyone does it get over it.

meetroid8

You're not talking about Halo are you?

He's talking about every shooter in existence.

All shooters are corridor shooters with 5 hour long single player campaigns & only 3 modes? I was going to agree that they are all linear in a sense, but what about games like Borderlands & Crysis? I haven't played the latter myself except for an hour or so long demonstration from a friend, but I thought you could go about missions in a variety of ways.

And I can't speak for all Shooters, but Reach has more than 3 modes.

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#61 Silverbond
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Beacause they're Sony Exclusives.

Duh.

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#62 clone01
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so everyone skipped over the part where I prove the graphics are not impressive on Killzone? also LOL at the guy who was talking about infamous, that game was the biggest POS boring crap ive ever played. The demo I was nearly crying at how boring it washearsofironthre
that's fine if you didn't like it. i quite enjoyed infamous. its all personal preference.
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#64 TheEroica  Moderator
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I call them out every day I dont own a ps3. I honestly dont hate the ps3, why would I, its a product, but there really isnt a franchise that they have that I feel as though I need a ps3 for.

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#65 coltsfan4ever
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I never understood this. How can a game like Killzone 3 get an 8.5 when TONS of people flat out say the campaign is boring (which killzone 2's put everyone I know to sleep) and the worst part is People consider Killzone 3's graphics to be 10000x better than anything on the 360. Now killzone 3 is the best looking console game I would say BUT GUESS WHAT? its a 1 player linear, corridor shooter with a 5 hour singleplayer and 3 modes online... Guess what happens when Killzone 3 tries to do OFFLINE 2 player co op? Its buggy and **** as hell, with framerate drops everywhere. Now people alawys mentino how halo reach's graphics suck comapred to killzone 3 Halo reach has 4 player online+offline campaign mode, it has up to 16 players on forge mode at once, theatre mode, etc and why isnt the amazing halo reach engine talked about more? If killzone 3 cant even have 2 player OFFLINE co op like ***** halo 1 did in 2001 how on earth are people impressed? Honestly why would anyone play killzone 3 instead of black ops? The story is universally accepted to suck how is that "Alright"? How can a game get an 8.5 when the singleplayer is so flawed? The story doesnt just suck it actually takes away from the singleplayer ive seen multple reviews mention. The multiplayer has 3 modes and changes such few things and yet it gets an 8.5 WTF?hearsofironthre
Too scared to use your real account TC? I didnt find Heavy Rain,God of War 3,LBP,etc... boring or not original. Stop hating.;)

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#66 heretrix
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Personally I find Halo, Gears, and Forza games every year to be boring. :?Messiahbolical-
No Forza or Gears game came out within a year of it's previous release.

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#67 taterfrickintot
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killzoneand resistance are horribly unoriginal and boring. PS home is the lames thing ive ever seen.

little big planet, demon souls, MGS4, Heavy Rainand uncharted are very good though IMO.

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#68 Messiahbolical-
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[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]Personally I find Halo, Gears, and Forza games every year to be boring. :?heretrix

No Forza or Gears game came out within a year of it's previous release.

You completely missed the point.
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#69 hearsofironthre
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What I ask is how could Black Ops (aka Lag Ops) score a 9.0 on GG when the game has unreliable connection, overpowered killstreak, gunship which kills with two bullets, the single player? The enemy has a weapons of MASS DESTRUCTION we must kill them and SAVE THE WORLD and lifes of thousands of innocents! Oh and the russians are the bad guys...AGAIN! Why did Black Ops deserve a 9.0 and why didn?t Killzone 3 deserve a 8.5 TC? **** online, same BS campaign, only thing good to the game is ZOMBIES, and that`s not orginial either is it? Tell me why do COD games score 9s when they are basically the SAME damn thing. It has been running on the same engine since COD4 damn it. *runs to the kitchen, takes a COLD glass water*

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um Lag ops is only because PSN sucks. Same with why MW2 is LITERLY unplayable. A game that sold 6million on the PS3 is unplayable because of how suprior PSN is to XBL On the 360 black ops is heaven, no lag, nothing. On PSN its laggy as crap. buh buh activiosns
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#70 Messiahbolical-
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[QUOTE="hearsofironthre"]um Lag ops is only because PSN sucks. Same with why MW2 is LITERLY unplayable. A game that sold 6million on the PS3 is unplayable because of how suprior PSN is to XBL On the 360 black ops is heaven, no lag, nothing. On PSN its laggy as crap. buh buh activiosns

Care to elaborate why PSN sucks and is the reason for Black Ops having problems on the PS3 version? If I remember correctly, the PC version also had problems. Are you going to blame it on Steam now too? :lol:
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What I ask is how could Black Ops (aka Lag Ops) score a 9.0 on GG when the game has unreliable connection, overpowered killstreak, gunship which kills with two bullets, the single player? The enemy has a weapons of MASS DESTRUCTION we must kill them and SAVE THE WORLD and lifes of thousands of innocents! Oh and the russians are the bad guys...AGAIN! Why did Black Ops deserve a 9.0 and why didn?t Killzone 3 deserve a 8.5 TC? **** online, same BS campaign, only thing good to the game is ZOMBIES, and that`s not orginial either is it? Tell me why do COD games score 9s when they are basically the SAME damn thing. It has been running on the same engine since COD4 damn it. *runs to the kitchen, takes a COLD glass water*

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U MAD BRO? russian spetsnaz>space nazis for enemies COD has infinitely better controls than KZ the only thing KZ has going for it is graphics IMO
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#72 hearsofironthre
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killzoneand resistance are horribly unoriginal and boring. PS home is the lames thing ive ever seen.

little big planet, demon souls, MGS4, Heavy Rainand uncharted are very good though IMO.

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mgs4 is good only if you like that genre heavy rain lol at $60 purchase uncharted 2- this is the one ps3 exclusive i would consider paying $60 for. Until I realize how crap the online is compared to better TPS and that the singleplayer is only worth a rent. LBP2 i really liked the demo ill see if i buy it or not
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#73 Promised_Trini
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New I account...I see...

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#74 UC3Drake
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[QUOTE="taterfrickintot"]

killzoneand resistance are horribly unoriginal and boring. PS home is the lames thing ive ever seen.

little big planet, demon souls, MGS4, Heavy Rainand uncharted are very good though IMO.

hearsofironthre

mgs4 is good only if you like that genre heavy rain lol at $60 purchase uncharted 2- this is the one ps3 exclusive i would consider paying $60 for. Until I realize how crap the online is compared to better TPS and that the singleplayer is only worth a rent. LBP2 i really liked the demo ill see if i buy it or not

If you actually think Gears and Re5 is better......

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#75 Laxer04
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dude who plays FPS for the story???????

but i do agree with you about halo. halo had features 10 years ago that killzone 3 lacks. makes no sense to me and thats why i am debating on whether or not to buy it. if they have split screen online i would buy it first day. sony confuses me >>they push social gaming with the move but continuously leave out social aspects of games like split screen.

and for comparing this game to wack ops. pleaaaseee the beta for KZ3 is much more fun than black ops ever was

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#76 taterfrickintot
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[QUOTE="taterfrickintot"]

killzoneand resistance are horribly unoriginal and boring. PS home is the lames thing ive ever seen.

little big planet, demon souls, MGS4, Heavy Rainand uncharted are very good though IMO.

hearsofironthre
mgs4 is good only if you like that genre heavy rain lol at $60 purchase uncharted 2- this is the one ps3 exclusive i would consider paying $60 for. Until I realize how crap the online is compared to better TPS and that the singleplayer is only worth a rent. LBP2 i really liked the demo ill see if i buy it or not

dont dis heavy rain lol. probably in my top 3 games of this gen
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#77 nightshade869
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I think the only people who really attack another system and its games are too upset that they can't afford it or our too ignorant to realize that there is a reason people enjoy the system. I own both a 360 and a PS3. Both have great games. I know I personally prefer the PS3 but that doesn't mean the 360 doesn't have its share of great games too.
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#78 campzor
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i dont see what the length of the campaign and the online modes have to do with how good the graphics can look.. haters gonna hate..get urself a ps3 then the hating will stop. 3 modes? LOL.. more like 6.... and im so sick of people saying linear = bad... i say open world = bad..
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#79 nervmeister
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Once again, we have a thread asserting the "my opinion = fact" mentality. :roll:
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#80 caseypayne69
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Killzone 3's MP smokes anything I've played this gen online soo... To each is his own. Level desisn, gun play, character movement, effects, job classes all make it better than Halo, COD or any other game for me. Though I love the weird MGO play style too.
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#81 mitu123
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dude who plays FPS for the story???????

Laxer04

Millions do, there are FPSs with good stories.

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#82 AlMar12345
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Someones saying KZ3 is over rated, thats pretty funny

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I never understood this. How can a game like Killzone 3 get an 8.5 when TONS of people flat out say the campaign is boring (which killzone 2's put everyone I know to sleep) and the worst part is People consider Killzone 3's graphics to be 10000x better than anything on the 360. Now killzone 3 is the best looking console game I would say BUT GUESS WHAT? its a 1 player linear, corridor shooter with a 5 hour singleplayer and 3 modes online... Guess what happens when Killzone 3 tries to do OFFLINE 2 player co op? Its buggy and **** as hell, with framerate drops everywhere. Now people alawys mentino how halo reach's graphics suck comapred to killzone 3 Halo reach has 4 player online+offline campaign mode, it has up to 16 players on forge mode at once, theatre mode, etc and why isnt the amazing halo reach engine talked about more? If killzone 3 cant even have 2 player OFFLINE co op like ***** halo 1 did in 2001 how on earth are people impressed? Honestly why would anyone play killzone 3 instead of black ops? The story is universally accepted to suck how is that "Alright"? How can a game get an 8.5 when the singleplayer is so flawed? The story doesnt just suck it actually takes away from the singleplayer ive seen multple reviews mention. The multiplayer has 3 modes and changes such few things and yet it gets an 8.5 WTF?hearsofironthre

who knows...i've noticed it to. cows and ps3 games seem to get a free pass here for some reason. they're the most babied group out of the 4...n yet they still find reasons to whine and pout. Halo Reach had a ton more to it than Killzone 3...i thought an 8.5 was generous. to come here and see cows whining and calling gamespot biased against Sony disgusted me lol. what more do they want??

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#84 UnrealLegend
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Since when was Killzone 3 the only Sony exclusive?

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#85 themyth01
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Who would take 4-player coop ( online/offline) over a few more shader post-processing effects, that's madness.
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#86 Verge_6
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If you want to know why a reviewer gave a game a score they did, then read the review.

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#87 danjammer69
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Well IDK about KZ3's single player yet, but I am playing through KZ2's right now and I am really enjoying it.

Yeah, the story is not the strongest but I enjoy the challenge that I am getting from it. It is NOT a walk in the park as every COD game is.

If you don't like KZ3, which I have no idea how since you have not played it yet, then write a USER REVIEW and let your opinion be heard.

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#88 W1NGMAN-
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Sony Exclusives or KZ2/3? :|
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#89 I_am_a_PS3_FB
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There is so much wrong with your post I'm not even sure where to begin.

First off, your thread title implies that ALL sony exclusives are boring an unoriginal. This is opinion at best, at false at worst. And your supposed support for your percieved favoritism of Sony games is nothing more than your own opinion that Killzone 3 is bad? If Killzone 3 was so terrible then why is it getting consistenly good scores from gaming critics?

I have Killzone 2 but won't get Killzone 3 because I'm not a huge fan of FPS's. But Killzone 2 was hardly boring. There was something big and explody and cool happening throughout that entire game. It never once slowed down. If the game had a major flaw it was the fact that there was literaly no story. You start the game being told you are invading the planet to get the general, or whatever, and that is literally the whole game. So no story, but hardly boring action.

And finally, this is the System Wars forum. Every single game ever released gets bashed by somebody for some ridiculous reason. Games that don't score 10s here are called flops. And yet IF a game does score a 10 people bash it even more. Sales don't matter unless they help your cause, and graphics don't matter unless you have the best. Exlcusives for the other consoles suck until they are ported over and suddenly they are the best games ever, etc, etc, etc.

But still, it all just boils down to you hate Killzone and decided to make an extremely whiny, fanboy thread about it without any real evidence backing your opinion. And opinions without facts are called biases.

ZIMdoom

Best Post of the thread IMO, should have closed off right there if the TC wasnt too scared to reply to this..

btw TC, Killzone 3 is a great game and you know it, Halo is average at best, CoD? dont even get me started, Its the buggiest pile of slag I've ever played..

and BTW!! how many games have you played like killzone and infamous story/setting/graphic/design wise? sure the mechanics are the same but so is CoD! and might I add that KZ3 Goes beyond the realms of these Usual shooters like CoD..

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#90 Messiahbolical-
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uncharted 2- this is the one ps3 exclusive i would consider paying $60 for. Until I realize how crap the online is compared to better TPS and that the singleplayer is only worth a rent.hearsofironthre
Actually Uncharted 2 online was pretty f***ing addicting and fun... easily one of the better onlines this gen and that goes for ANY genre. Surprisingly deep too, especially for a game that was praised for having one of the best single player campaigns of all time. I'm highly doubting you've even played it. :|
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#91 lusitanogamer
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I never understood this. How can a game like Killzone 3 get an 8.5 when TONS of people flat out say the campaign is boring (which killzone 2's put everyone I know to sleep) and the worst part is People consider Killzone 3's graphics to be 10000x better than anything on the 360. Now killzone 3 is the best looking console game I would say BUT GUESS WHAT? its a 1 player linear, corridor shooter with a 5 hour singleplayer and 3 modes online... Guess what happens when Killzone 3 tries to do OFFLINE 2 player co op? Its buggy and **** as hell, with framerate drops everywhere. Now people alawys mentino how halo reach's graphics suck comapred to killzone 3 Halo reach has 4 player online+offline campaign mode, it has up to 16 players on forge mode at once, theatre mode, etc and why isnt the amazing halo reach engine talked about more? If killzone 3 cant even have 2 player OFFLINE co op like ***** halo 1 did in 2001 how on earth are people impressed? Honestly why would anyone play killzone 3 instead of black ops? The story is universally accepted to suck how is that "Alright"? How can a game get an 8.5 when the singleplayer is so flawed? The story doesnt just suck it actually takes away from the singleplayer ive seen multple reviews mention. The multiplayer has 3 modes and changes such few things and yet it gets an 8.5 WTF?hearsofironthre
Maybe you should play the game first to figure out why it scored 8.5? Just a suggestion.
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#92 DethSkematik
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Killzone 2 was boring, Resistance was a big WTF for me, Infamous and God of War were huge rip-offs of other games I used to enjoy 10 years ago [spoiler] I'm just kidding, I love these games...but someone had to do it :P [/spoiler]