Why are the graphics in NG2 so horrible? looks like Xbox 1 graphics.

Team Ninja uses the same anime-****for all their games. Of course they are going to look similar, but if you can't tell the difference between 1 and 2 then I'm not going even bother debating.

The graphics in NG2 just go to show how weak a console the 360 really is:

The graphics in NG2 just go to show how weak a console the 360 really is:

-Skyfall

What a weak argument.

You act as if games like Gears of War are invalidated by Ninja Gaiden 2.

By your logic, I could use MGS4 to say that the PS3 renders lackluster textures, but I don't, because that would be stupid in light of Uncharted.

yet it looks better than mgs4

Kirlok

[QUOTE="-Skyfall"]

The graphics in NG2 just go to show how weak a console the 360 really is:

Tragic_Kingdom7

i think NG2 looks better than Sigma because of better environenments. other than that the gameplay also looks a lot better. NG2 looks to be better

I own sigma by the way

Ninja Gaiden Black

Ninja Gaiden 2

Ninja Gaiden 2 does look better, no denying it. However going from this to 3 years later into the next console and this is all you can do, call me un-impressed.

alextheman123

What the hell are people expecting it to look like, a CGI movie? That's a gargantuan improvement. The textures, the detail, the character models, the lighting, the particle effects, the polygon count, the art, the level sizes... everything is a big step up. If you can't see that, fix your eyes.

How the **** can anybody complain about these graphics?

You guys are comparing gameplay 640x480 Ninja Gaiden screenshots to oversampled 5000x3000 NG2 bullshots. Gameplay to gameplay will be a better comparison, or just do oversampled bullshot to oversampled bullshot.Makari

5000x3000 NG2 bullshots? :lol:

The damage control is amazing.

I think what you mean is native NG2 720p shots, compared to native NG1 480p shots. I should downscale the NG2 shots to give NG1 more of a fighting chance, though, you're right.

[QUOTE="Makari"]You guys are comparing gameplay 640x480 Ninja Gaiden screenshots to oversampled 5000x3000 NG2 bullshots. Gameplay to gameplay will be a better comparison, or just do oversampled bullshot to oversampled bullshot.Zeliard9

5000x3000 NG2 bullshots? :lol:

The damage control is amazing.

I think what you mean is native NG2 720p shots, compared to native NG1 480p shots. I should downscale the NG2 shots to give NG1 more of a fighting chance, though, you're right.

[QUOTE="Zeliard9"]

[QUOTE="Makari"]You guys are comparing gameplay 640x480 Ninja Gaiden screenshots to oversampled 5000x3000 NG2 bullshots. Gameplay to gameplay will be a better comparison, or just do oversampled bullshot to oversampled bullshot.Makari

5000x3000 NG2 bullshots? :lol:

The damage control is amazing.

I think what you mean is native NG2 720p shots, compared to native NG1 480p shots. I should downscale the NG2 shots to give NG1 more of a fighting chance, though, you're right.

He's a liar. Unlike the time he talked about Haze or Metal Gear Online. He wasn't lieing then.

Halo 3 he was lieing about as well.

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?s=93e0edc53f81f872e26da826217ac65a&p=1150738&postcount=400 *whistles innocently* oh noes, it's quaz51 again. nobody knows what the real res of ng2 is yet, since every screenshot released so far is very obviously oversampled to high holy hell then downscaled. notice the total lack of jaggies?Makari

They are oversampled as every officially released screenshot for every game is, but these are the same images that people have been basing the "disappointing graphics" off of and comparing them unfavorably to Black and Sigma, so what does that tell you? What I'm asking is, where's the disappointment? It looks even better, if anything, in motion at 60 FPS.

I strongly doubt it will end up sub-720p at retail, knowing how hardcore Itagaki and Team Ninja are about graphics technology.

Just like MGS4, the game is of ordinary beauty. Nice to look at, but nothing amazing.

That said, I envy you 360 owners. I loved the first Ninja Gaiden. Fantastic gameplay from start to finish.

yet it looks better than mgs4

Kirlok

it does look much better than mgs4, that much is for sure.. at least the textures are somewhat high resolution.

[QUOTE="Droopeh"]They aren't that bad, but they're not good. To that kid above, NG2 does not look better than MGS4. MGS4 is actually one of the best looking games.Kirlok

sorry but no, mgs4 may be one of the best upcoming games, but hell its not one of the best looking. i guess they both look so average it just a matter or opinion.

[QUOTE="Kirlok"]

yet it looks better than mgs4

3picuri3

it does look much better than mgs4, that much is for sure.. at least the textures are somewhat high resolution.

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Kirlok"]

yet it looks better than mgs4

ermacness

it does look much better than mgs4, that much is for sure.. at least the textures are somewhat high resolution.

I don't think anybody was claiming that NG2 looks better than KZ2.

But which one will play better? NG2 for sure.

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Kirlok"]

yet it looks better than mgs4

ermacness

it does look much better than mgs4, that much is for sure.. at least the textures are somewhat high resolution.

i think kz2 took a massive downgrade based on the latest video we've seen to be honest. still probably better than ng2, but they have different graphics, ng has always been a bit stylized, like a bit cartoony if that makes sense.

[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Kirlok"]

yet it looks better than mgs4

Tragic_Kingdom7

it does look much better than mgs4, that much is for sure.. at least the textures are somewhat high resolution.

I don't think anybody was claiming that NG2 looks better than KZ2.

But which one will play better? NG2 for sure.

[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Kirlok"]

yet it looks better than mgs4

3picuri3

it does look much better than mgs4, that much is for sure.. at least the textures are somewhat high resolution.

i think kz2 took a massive downgrade based on the latest video we've seen to be honest. still probably better than ng2, but they have different graphics, ng has always been a bit stylized, like a bit cartoony if that makes sense.

The graphics in NG2 just go to show how weak a console the 360 really is:

-Skyfall

This is not a bust on 360, I have a 360 and love it. The graphics in most games are really good. But Ninja Gaiden 2 looks like Ninja Gaiden 1. The graphics look flat, it looks like NG1 bumped up in HD.digitalman42

[QUOTE="-Skyfall"]

The graphics in NG2 just go to show how weak a console the 360 really is:

AC-360

I do agree that Ruy's character model looks better in some aspect in Sigma and that the lightning in that game is a bit more dynamic making everything look a bit more realistic. With that said Sigma also had aliasning and filtering issues, overuse of bloom and lacked effects such as ghost images from NGB. When it comes to the how the enemies looks, the environments, the effects and animations NG2 clearly is superior.

I didn't want to say anything but the characters look like plastic,here is a link to a topic that proves my point from not too long ago http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26379142&msg_id=301210055#301210055

[QUOTE="alextheman123"]

Ninja Gaiden Black

Ninja Gaiden 2

Ninja Gaiden 2 does look better, no denying it. However going from this to 3 years later into the next console and this is all you can do, call me un-impressed.

Zeliard9

What the hell are people expecting it to look like, a CGI movie? That's a gargantuan improvement. The textures, the detail, the character models, the lighting, the particle effects, the polygon count, the art, the level sizes... everything is a big step up. If you can't see that, fix your eyes.

How the **** can anybody complain about these graphics?

[QUOTE="AC-360"][QUOTE="-Skyfall"]

The graphics in NG2 just go to show how weak a console the 360 really is:

ZimpanX

I do agree that Ruy's character model looks better in some aspect in Sigma and that the lightning in that game is a bit more dynamic making everything look a bit more realistic. With that said Sigma also had aliasning and filtering issues, overuse of bloom and lacked effects such as ghost images from NGB. When it comes to the how the enemies looks, the environments, the effects and animations NG2 clearly is superior.

But as far as character models and certain lighting effects go, SIGMA wins easily.

[QUOTE="ZimpanX"][QUOTE="AC-360"][QUOTE="-Skyfall"]

The graphics in NG2 just go to show how weak a console the 360 really is:

AC-360

I do agree that Ruy's character model looks better in some aspect in Sigma and that the lightning in that game is a bit more dynamic making everything look a bit more realistic. With that said Sigma also had aliasning and filtering issues, overuse of bloom and lacked effects such as ghost images from NGB. When it comes to the how the enemies looks, the environments, the effects and animations NG2 clearly is superior.

Sure but that doesn't disqualify them.

Fail!

Now for Xbox 1:

People really forget last generation.

BioShockOwnz

yea i have that problem to.. in my mind i thought alot of ps1 games looked good, but when i go play them now i have big problems even telling whats going on, on the screen :)

[QUOTE="ZimpanX"][QUOTE="AC-360"][QUOTE="-Skyfall"]

The graphics in NG2 just go to show how weak a console the 360 really is:

AC-360

I do agree that Ruy's character model looks better in some aspect in Sigma and that the lightning in that game is a bit more dynamic making everything look a bit more realistic. With that said Sigma also had aliasning and filtering issues, overuse of bloom and lacked effects such as ghost images from NGB. When it comes to the how the enemies looks, the environments, the effects and animations NG2 clearly is superior.

But as far as character models and certain lighting effects go, SIGMA wins easily.

you are blind...NG2 is better in all aspects to Sigma

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Kirlok"]

yet it looks better than mgs4

ermacness

it does look much better than mgs4, that much is for sure.. at least the textures are somewhat high resolution.

i think kz2 took a massive downgrade based on the latest video we've seen to be honest. still probably better than ng2, but they have different graphics, ng has always been a bit stylized, like a bit cartoony if that makes sense.

my history as what? a gamer?

i think downgrade was the general consensus when the new footage came out - hence the lack of KZ2 hype threads :) sorry pal.

yet it looks better than mgs4

Kirlok

No it doesn't.