Why are Xbox exclusives so limited in genre?

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#1 XboxStache
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Seriously and O-M-G.

Out of the big 3, Microsoft is most sparse in genre. They have nothing that competes with Mario or R&C, they have no answer to Uncharted, they have no answer to Beyond 2 souls or Heavy Rain, they have no answer to Socom, they have no answer to SFV, they have no answer to God of War (though to credit them, Ryse was a bad attempt at outdoing Kratos excluding all the sexual ickiness of GOW in which I literally change inputs to avoid seeing)...

Microsoft has been racing, FPS/TPS and random action games.

Meanwhile, when I look through the library of Sony exclusives, Sony has all the classics and greatest hits editions in which Microsoft hasn't been able to outdo at all. Microsoft doesn't have Genji, Shinobi, Mrk of Kri, Musashi, Klonoa, Dark Cloud, Twisted Metal, Motorstorm, any decent RPG's nor a Massive Multiplayer game along the lines of Mag, Dust 514, Resistance or Socom. They have Halo, Halo and More Halo with some Forza...which is why real gamers tend to look at Microsoft like unwanted company at the party.

Why doesn't Microsoft expand their genres? What makes you as an Xbox gamer totally satisfied with the lack of genres? Enough so to label valid criticism as "hate".

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#2 speedfreak48t5p
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Stop making threads fakeboy.

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#4 clyde46
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But Forza is amazing!

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#5 lostrib
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@XboxStache said:

Seriously and O-M-G.

Out of the big 3, Microsoft is most sparse in genre. They have nothing that competes with Mario or R&C, they have no answer to Uncharted, they have no answer to Beyond 2 souls or Heavy Rain, they have no answer to Socom, they have no answer to SFV, they have no answer to God of War (though to credit them, Ryse was a bad attempt at outdoing Kratos excluding all the sexual ickiness of GOW in which I literally change inputs to avoid seeing)...

...wth, how old are you?

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#6 XboxStache
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@lostrib said:
@XboxStache said:

Seriously and O-M-G.

Out of the big 3, Microsoft is most sparse in genre. They have nothing that competes with Mario or R&C, they have no answer to Uncharted, they have no answer to Beyond 2 souls or Heavy Rain, they have no answer to Socom, they have no answer to SFV, they have no answer to God of War (though to credit them, Ryse was a bad attempt at outdoing Kratos excluding all the sexual ickiness of GOW in which I literally change inputs to avoid seeing)...

...wth, how old are you?

Age has nothing to do with being morally repulsed. Try again.

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@XboxStache: xbox has always been the fps machine. Only until recently have they been trying to change focus- thank phil spencer for that.

There's a lot of good games in variety coming to xbone- sea of thieves, Recors, quantum break, ashen, Scalebound. None of those are fps or racers. Also, sunset overdive and Ori and the blind forest are 2 of the best games so far this gen.

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#9  Edited By lostrib
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@XboxStache said:
@lostrib said:
@XboxStache said:

Seriously and O-M-G.

Out of the big 3, Microsoft is most sparse in genre. They have nothing that competes with Mario or R&C, they have no answer to Uncharted, they have no answer to Beyond 2 souls or Heavy Rain, they have no answer to Socom, they have no answer to SFV, they have no answer to God of War (though to credit them, Ryse was a bad attempt at outdoing Kratos excluding all the sexual ickiness of GOW in which I literally change inputs to avoid seeing)...

...wth, how old are you?

Age has nothing to do with being morally repulsed. Try again.

Uh huh, sure...

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#10 Halo2-Best-FPS
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As opposed to PS4 exclusives all being in the movie genre?

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#11 XboxStache
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@jcrame10 said:

@XboxStache: xbox has always been the fps machine. Only until recently have they been trying to change focus- thank phil spencer for that.

There's a lot of good games in variety coming to xbone- sea of thieves, Recors, quantum break, ashen, Scalebound. None of those are fps or racers. Also, sunset overdive and Ori and the blind forest are 2 of the best games so far this gen.

Not true. The OG Xbox had Ninja Gaiden, Otogi, Kung Fu Chaos, Jade Empire, Voodoo Vince, Raze's hell and many other exclusives that didn't rely on FPS/TPS. (Granted, it had Ghost recon which I absolutely loved and Halo alongside other games like Pariah)

Microsoft went from having a robust library of exclusives (heck, don't forget Oddworld Stranger's wrath and Conker Live and Reloaded) to slimming down genres; period. When 360 had interesting games like Velvet Assassin, which I actually liked, they completely diverted the pathway to something better because there wasn't enough "umph" behind those titles. And sorry, I ownboth Ori and SO, SO was fun, but it certainly isn't one of the best this gen. Nor is Ori, which is an olde to yesteryear platforming; but ultimately is a niche title at best.

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@Halo2-Best-FPS said:

As opposed to PS4 exclusives all being in the movie genre?

Don't forget the over saturation of anime-esque games that are flooding the thing.

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They cater to their audience, who are shallow brodudes.

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@clyde46 said:

But Forza is amazing!

oh yea it is. I imitate Forza in real life at every apex I go into and out of, but at very low speeds hah.

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#15  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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@Halo2-Best-FPS: PS exclusives always have way more variety than Xbox. It is not even worth trying to debate. That will continue this generation.

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#16 babyjoker1221
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Why are TC's threads so bad?

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#18 NyaDC
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@magicalclick said:

@babyjoker1221:

Because a cow will be a cow.

Him being a cow would be an improvement, he's as fakeboy as they come.

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#20 silversix_
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Dudebros don't exactly play anything else but sports games and linear shooters

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@XboxStache: Why you are so tunnel visioned on the Xbox/Microsoft is the real mystery here. Nearly every topic you have ever made pertains to it.

I'm not disagreeing with you on this. For once you are right, though with exaggeration. The xbone (but really all consoles in general) lacks diversity in genres.

But seriously, when you say something like "which is why real gamers tend to look at Microsoft like unwanted company at the party." after gushing about Sony and some of their most mediocre games, you kinda sound like an idiot fanboy fakeboy.

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#22 hello505
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A new Banjo-Kazooie is more anticipated than a new Rachet and Clank game.

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#23 FoxbatAlpha
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You have to remember that what Xbox does do, it does right.

Best FPS: Halo

Best TPS: Gears

Best Racer: Forza

Best Fighter: Killer Instinct

That is accomplishment.

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#24 oflow
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TC will always only see what he wants to see since he is a butthurt lem turned cowed with a vendetta against MS. so his daily '1001 reasons to hate xbox' post for today is to fall back on the ol' reliable, 'Xbox only has forza/gears/halo' argument.

the truth is both consoles are using multiplats to fill holes in their lineups, but saying xbox one has no variety is a bit exaggerated. Cows always try to say that games also released on pc dont count for some reason, but i can play them on my X1 so i dont see why not.

i also like how you kinda just brushed Ori and Sunset Overdrive to the side when are solid titles. i also guess you forgot rare replay exists.

but lets see if we are going to talk hypothetically:

quantum break and a new alan wake can rival uncharted and heavy rain. gears can rival god of war. bringing up socom is kinda moot since ps4 has nothing comparable to it either (fyi the ps3 socom sucked and the franchise is dead since ps2)

below is still scheduled to release this year which by pretty much all accounts is an excellent game that sony has nothing like.

cuphead is going to be a killer platformer franchise

not to mention scalebound, recore, crackdown, sea of thieves, ashen, halo wars 2 and existing games like smite, elite dangerous, neverwinter and gigantic which are all pretty fun games. or all the ID@Xbox games in the pipes: http://majornelson.com/2015/06/30/full-list-of-idxbox-trailers-from-e3-2015/

then you listed a pretty mediocre list of games like Mag, dust 514, dark cloud, resistance (another failed franchise like killzone) and a few others as must have which is kinda laughable. your hate for ms has made ypu think those games are better than they are. at least mention good games, you could have mentioned warhawk or something. and i guess sony gets a pass for buying SFV exclusivity when for years its competitive home was on xbox.

crapping on halo and forza is pretty much the equivalent of crapping on uncharted and tlou. its not like sony hasnt been milking those franchises the same way.

and whos to say next year at e3 we wont see an announcement for a new lost odyssey or a new jade empire or L4D3 all of which could easily happen?

IMHO its very possible if a couple of sonys big upcoming games flop that by this time next year sony could actually be playing catch up in the good games department.

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#25 LJS9502_basic
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@clyde46 said:

But Forza is amazing!

Not if you aren't into racing games.

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#26  Edited By Legend002
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MS will make what their fans buy. In this case; shooters, shooters and racing. (no baseball tho)

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@XboxStache: Omg you again... seriously just go away.

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@clyde46 said:

But Forza is amazing!

Forza 6 looks just plain awful.

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#29 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

You have to remember that what Xbox does do, it does right.

Best FPS: Halo

Best TPS: Gears

Best Racer: Forza

Best Fighter: Killer Instinct

That is accomplishment.

FPS = Destiny (on console)

TPS - There's no Gears on X1 except something from last gen so if that's the case = Max Payne 3

Best Racer = meh...racers. Either way Forza 6 looks like shit

Fighter = SFV is coming

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#30 Salt_The_Fries
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Why are PS Fanboys so limited in the brain?

Actually it's quite the opposite with entire genre missing from some Sony consoles. I had wanted to make thread about the variety among Xbox exclusives/console exclusives that is very overlooked. I had wanted to do this thread maybe even for years. I will shut the hell out of limited brained Fanboys like you.

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@mr_huggles_dog said:
@clyde46 said:

But Forza is amazing!

Forza 6 looks just plain awful.

Have you played it?

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Limited? They pretty much got everything except niche JRPGs and movie games?

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@clyde46 said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:
@clyde46 said:

But Forza is amazing!

Forza 6 looks just plain awful.

Have you played it?

Of course he hasn't, none of these people bashing the game have.

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#34  Edited By Salt_The_Fries
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@nyadc: He doesn't realize there are entire genres missing in PS3s library... I'm sick of this drivel.

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Wow TC has rustled some xbot jimmies

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#36 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@clyde46 said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:
@clyde46 said:

But Forza is amazing!

Forza 6 looks just plain awful.

Have you played it?

I saw a comparison video that someone linked for PC/DC/F6...and it looks like shit by itself let alone compared to the other 2.

And don't do the "But you haven't played it"....b/c ppl use screens and videos every day on these boards to go by.

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#37  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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@nyadc said:
@clyde46 said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:
@clyde46 said:

But Forza is amazing!

Forza 6 looks just plain awful.

Have you played it?

Of course he hasn't, none of these people bashing the game have.

I'll tell you like I told him....for some odd reason now....videos are worthless all of a sudden?

Yet...you claimed Forza has uber awesome weather effects....at first showed no proof of your own (screens or video) and then did in fact use something as your proof.

So if you can use a screen or video to proof your stance....I can use a video to prove mine.

Sorry....can't have it both ways.

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#38 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@clyde46: @nyadc: Just so I jump on this before it starts:

If either of you claim that watching a video of Forza 6 isn't fair....then I don't want to see any arguments regarding games graphics comparisons using screens or videos from you two.

And when others post them....stay out of the conversation.

That....or videos and screens are a justifiable source as always.

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#39 lostrib
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@clyde46: @nyadc: Just so I jump on this before it starts:

If either of you claim that watching a video of Forza 6 isn't fair....then I don't want to see any arguments regarding games graphics comparisons using screens or videos from you two.

And when others post them....stay out of the conversation.

That....or videos and screens are a justifiable source as always.

...i don't think they were talking about graphics

@nyadc said:
@clyde46 said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:
@clyde46 said:

But Forza is amazing!

Forza 6 looks just plain awful.

Have you played it?

Of course he hasn't, none of these people bashing the game have.

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#40 Legend002
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Lems are getting smoked by a dose of reality in this thread.

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#41  Edited By Salt_The_Fries
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@Legend002: You're the one living in delusions. What did Xbox do to you? Have you ever owned one?

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#42 clyde46
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@mr_huggles_dog said:
@clyde46 said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:
@clyde46 said:

But Forza is amazing!

Forza 6 looks just plain awful.

Have you played it?

I saw a comparison video that someone linked for PC/DC/F6...and it looks like shit by itself let alone compared to the other 2.

And don't do the "But you haven't played it"....b/c ppl use screens and videos every day on these boards to go by.

In terms of graphics, sure whatever I've played both and DC and PCars does look better in places compared to Forza 6 yet Forza 6 is the most enjoyable and engaging to play.

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#43  Edited By Cloud_imperium
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As a PC Gamer who doesn't own either X1 or PS4, I think Xbox One has more variety. Since last gen, Sony's main focus has been third person shooters since the success of Gears of War. There were some other games like sports games, so called "Halo Killers" FPS games and hack n slash here and there like God of War but other than that nothing more.

Even on PS4 right now, apart from one or two games like Rachet and Clank for example, other big games are third person shooters along with some QTE/David Cage-ish games and niche JRPGs. Xbox One has all of those genres (except QTE games) and more, including RTS, Halo Wars 2 (not exclusive but you mentioned SFV as exclusive, so there you go).

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@mr_huggles_dog said:
@clyde46 said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:
@clyde46 said:

But Forza is amazing!

Forza 6 looks just plain awful.

Have you played it?

I saw a comparison video that someone linked for PC/DC/F6...and it looks like shit by itself let alone compared to the other 2.

And don't do the "But you haven't played it"....b/c ppl use screens and videos every day on these boards to go by.

Forza games were never just about 'looks', they are always 60fps and gameplay first. Unlike DC which is about looks first and runs at 30fps. And why you would be interested in comparing regular arcade games to an FM game is a mystery.

If you're just referring to looks, fine. But people who judge FM games before they play them, are just being stupid.

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@mr_huggles_dog said:
@clyde46 said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:
@clyde46 said:

But Forza is amazing!

Forza 6 looks just plain awful.

Have you played it?

I saw a comparison video that someone linked for PC/DC/F6...and it looks like shit by itself let alone compared to the other 2.

And don't do the "But you haven't played it"....b/c ppl use screens and videos every day on these boards to go by.

Yeah but those people don't go into ever thread spouting "Forza 6 looks like crap"

Because for a game you haven't played, to come into every thread, recycling the same opinion, makes you come over really, really stupid and ignorant.

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#46 HalcyonScarlet
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@hiphops_savior said:

They cater to their audience, who are shallow brodudes.


So it's the dude bros versus the Weeabros? :-P

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#47 Legend002
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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hiphops_savior said:

They cater to their audience, who are shallow brodudes.

So it's the dude bros versus the Weeabros? :-P

Everything is on PS4; dudebros, weebros, whatever bros. The only thing on Xbox are dudebros.

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#48 HalcyonScarlet
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@Legend002 said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hiphops_savior said:

They cater to their audience, who are shallow brodudes.

So it's the dude bros versus the Weeabros? :-P

Everything is on PS4; dudebros, weebros, whatever bros. The only thing on Xbox are dudebros.

The fanboys come off as a hybrid between dude bros and weeaboos. In fact they always have.

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#49  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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@R4gn4r0k: How is it ignorance to be absolutely shocked that a game on a next gen system looks so bad?

Thats where I'm coming from. Don't get mad just b/c it's not in your favor....you can take your hypocrite self and go bother someone else.

Every time I've mentioned it...it's been within context.

@HalcyonScarlet: I haven't played Forza in a long time....I'm talking about looks specifically. Racing games aren't my thing...so the looks help.

@lostrib:I was.

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#50 HalcyonScarlet
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@R4gn4r0k: How is it ignorance to be absolutely shocked that a game on a next gen system looks so bad?

Thats where I'm coming from. Don't get mad just b/c it's not in your favor....you can take your hypocrite self and go bother someone else.

Every time I've mentioned it...it's been within context.

@HalcyonScarlet: I haven't played Forza in a long time....I'm talking about looks specifically. Racing games aren't my thing...so the looks help.

@lostrib:I was.

What do the looks help? Turn 10 always sacrifice graphics with their FM games so the rest of it is as good as it gets. That's pretty much the attitude of the sim racing community and a lot of the racing community in general.

It's not like FM 3 and 4 were the best looking racers on the Xbox 360.