Why cant consoles have mods like PCs??

Ok, so it was a silly question lol, but i want to hear you guy's opinion. Why do you think the console holders down allow mods like on PC? I would love to be able to Mod Mass Effect, GTA4, InFamous, and UC2 Take these Fallout 3 mods for example, wouldnt that be awesome on consoles???

it would be. unfortunately, the nature of the console as a kind of closed-box, closed-coding computer means that they are inherently unfriendly to mods. add to the fact that almost anything you can access and download onto most consoles is strictly controlled through their producers, and they become even less feasible. after all, a mod is content that ms/sony/nintendo cant profit from in most cases., since they are generally created by fan communities. not only that, but having not originated from certified publishers and programmers, they carry a risk of holding glitches or malicious software that could be damaging to the console, which creates an avenue for lawsuit against the console companies.

i dont think that is all of the reasons why, but i think its some of the more significant ones. its a unique combination of companies wanting to protect possible streams of revenue, avoid unnessecary legal liability, and control content their consumers are exposed to. this isnt inherently bad. its good and responsible business, and for those looking for the ability to enjoy mods, you only need a gaming pc.

its my understanding that the ps3 version of ut3 supports mods, i have no idea how this works (perhaps somebody can expand on this) but if so that is a very progressive concept for consoles.

[QUOTE="funsohng"]there's the problem of hacking and i think the difference in architecture makes it hard and i mean, it's going to be a pain to download the mods on pc, then put it into usb, bring it over to the console, then install it.navyguy21

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="funsohng"]there's the problem of hacking and i think the difference in architecture makes it hard and i mean, it's going to be a pain to download the mods on pc, then put it into usb, bring it over to the console, then install it.funsohng

Unreal tournamnet 3 does for the PS3.JigglyWiggly_

Umm... they can. Unreal Tournament 3 for the PS3 supported mods... :|Messiahbolical-

[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="navyguy21"] why cant they be created, then stored in an online database, then downloaded to the console like in Halo 3??navyguy21

one fact:games are created via computers, not consoles.

i know that, but im talking universally, like on all games, on all platforms............nobody played UT3 :Pnavyguy21

Due to the fact that charging for dlc is awesome :P

Seriously though, i'm not sure.

My friend had mods in Halo 2, although it required him to mod his xbox to do so. To answer your question though, the tools needed aren't available.

Because MS, Sony and Nintendo don't want you to.

And now they don't want PC gamers to have them either.

It's all about the money.

Because they are not PCs

The open nature of the pc also allows for easier hacking so it is an advantage with a price. A lot of good online pc games have been ruined by cheating.

Don't worry the best mods become incorporated into Valve games so you really don't lose much.

The open nature of the pc also allows for easier hacking so it is an advantage with a price. A lot of good online pc games have been ruined by cheating.

Don't worry the best mods become incorporated into Valve games so you really don't lose much.

dc337

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The open nature of the pc also allows for easier hacking so it is an advantage with a price. A lot of good online pc games have been ruined by cheating.

Don't worry the best mods become incorporated into Valve games so you really don't lose much.

DragonfireXZ95

[QUOTE="dc337"]

The open nature of the pc also allows for easier hacking so it is an advantage with a price. A lot of good online pc games have been ruined by cheating.

Don't worry the best mods become incorporated into Valve games so you really don't lose much.

DragonfireXZ95

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[QUOTE="dc337"]

The open nature of the pc also allows for easier hacking so it is an advantage with a price. A lot of good online pc games have been ruined by cheating.

Don't worry the best mods become incorporated into Valve games so you really don't lose much.

mo0ksi

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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] Biased post is biased?

DragonfireXZ95

Considering console games are coded to fully utilize the systems capabilities; one would think adding to that would cause performance problems.

Because there is no freedom on the consoles, also MS has to pay money to host the files needed so even if it was possible it would be really expensive for the mod creator. Brainkiller05

They can: Unreal Tournament III in PS3 has.

[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Because there is no freedom on the consoles, also MS has to pay money to host the files needed so even if it was possible it would be really expensive for the mod creator. dc337

Like all that people did with all those games built on Valve's engines?

[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Because there is no freedom on the consoles, also MS has to pay money to host the files needed so even if it was possible it would be really expensive for the mod creator. dc337

I rarely bumped into hackers in BF2/COD4/TF2/L4D.

Freedom to mod also means freedom to hack and ruin an online game.

I like how consoles are locked up, I don't want people ruining the games.

dc337

[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Because there is no freedom on the consoles, also MS has to pay money to host the files needed so even if it was possible it would be really expensive for the mod creator. dc337

Considering the large amount of mods I have played, I must be missing out on something, with all this hacking going on of which you speak.

With so much user made content of stunning quality for so many games, I guess this striking negative *should* be making more of an impression on me.

Right?

Maybe im just not PC gaming enough :?

[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Because there is no freedom on the consoles, also MS has to pay money to host the files needed so even if it was possible it would be really expensive for the mod creator. dc337

[QUOTE="funsohng"]there's the problem of hacking and i think the difference in architecture makes it hard and i mean, it's going to be a pain to download the mods on pc, then put it into usb, bring it over to the console, then install it.navyguy21

Why do people think everyone wants mods? If you want mods, be a PC gamer. Easy enough, right?xsubtownerx

cause pc's are more powerful and multitasking

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]Unreal tournamnet 3 does for the PS3.navyguy21

Umm... they can. Unreal Tournament 3 for the PS3 supported mods... :|Messiahbolical-

It's certainly something that is possible, I think it's more a matter of expectation and the type of users on each platform. Most PC gamers absolutely expect user created mods, and console users don't. Game companies are always happy to give a consumer as little as they can for their money. Not to mention that even on many games that would prefer there not be user generated mods, enterprising programmers find a way anyhow. That's the nature of the PC beast.

mods like pc? on consoles? how?

It's possible (see UT3 on ps3, there was talk of Bioware and Sony working on it for Dragon Age) but there's one major reason that ppl are forgetting. Publishers and platform makers don't want you get content for free that they can charge you for. I'm when anyone can make quality mods that trump the skimpy dlc that they charge us an arm and a leg for, it diminishes the value of dlc. Why pay for something you can get for free? Publishers and to an extent MS and Sony who get money from transactions on psn and live stand to make no money from user generated content. I don't have a link but MS has said they want buyers to get used to paying for everything even when developers like Valve and Epic want to give the content away for free. Sony is more open about mods and ugc (LBP, UT3) but Sony still gets money from publishers for all the dlc downloaded on psn so they also have incentive to keep mods from ps3. Gamers should get used to these publishers and platform holders charging for things that have traditionally been free *cough*playing online, xbl *cough*.

Another issue is that the consoles are more closed platforms that don't allow you access to the files on the disc. Consoles also lack the interface (software and mouse and keyboard) that makes mod creation easier.