Why can't Microsoft make a profit?

They're making profit. They've broken even a LONG time ago. I think it's something like 200 dollars for every console.MADVLAD123

Sony has higher losses tho... And they diden't give out a 3 year warrenty. dudy80

Sony has higher losses tho...dudy80

Not really since its PS2 is still turning profits.

[QUOTE="dudy80"]Sony has higher losses tho... And they diden't give out a 3 year warrenty. progenitorvirus

I did, it made no sense as sony has the same stuff...

are you serious? :lol:

it's called the business model that both sony and ms are using.

so far, sce has lost over 2 billion on the ps3 at only 6 months on the market....

ms will see a profit waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before sony ever does on their console...;)

[QUOTE="dudy80"]Sony has higher losses tho...Pariah_001

Not really since its PS2 is still turning profits.

SCE reported 2 BILLION in losses at only 6 months...

you may want to do more research...;)

Sony has higher losses tho... And they diden't give out a 3 year warrenty. dudy80

Sony is what? Cant you stay on topic? The fact is MS isgoing to lose money due to the 3 Year Warranty. Will it lose tons? Depends on how well your product last. As for me, I've already had to replace my 360. The new one I have now gives me Disc dirty errors. I have a feeling MS is going to lose tons of Moo la.

Sony has higher losses tho... And they diden't give out a 3 year warrenty. dudy80

sony did not need to because their ps3 is not faulty like the 360.

You really think you got a "free" 3 yr warranty? Think again.

are you serious? :lol:

it's called the business model that both sony and ms are using.

so far, sce has lost over 2 billion on the ps3 at only 6 months on the market....

ms will see a profit waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before sony ever does on their console...;)

tango90101

They're making profit. They've broken even a LONG time ago. I think it's something like 200 dollars for every console.MADVLAD123

The 3 yr warranty is one step short of a recall. We all know that MS will never do a recall. None of the console maker will do a recall cause that will look really bad inthe media. So they do a patch like extending the warranty.

It will be interesting... if they problem presist and they have to extended it into a 4 yr warranty.

Oh, and the 3 yr warranty only covers the red rings of death. If was a 360 owner, I will sell my 360 once the warranty is over and get the 65nm version when it appear. I am assume the 65nm version would not be faulty.

[QUOTE="Pariah_001"]

[QUOTE="dudy80"]Sony has higher losses tho...tango90101

Not really since its PS2 is still turning profits.

SCE reported 2 BILLION in losses at only 6 months...

you may want to do more research...;)

MS lost 6 Billion since the launch of the first Xbox in 2001. Their first Xbox only lasted 4 years while the PS2 is coming on 8 years. The 360 will last until 2009, then MS will make a whole new console again...and you'll have to pay MS again and again and again and again.....

The PS2 is still making the most money out of any previous generation console. The PS3 will last well beyond 2012, when MS is on their fourth console.

[QUOTE="tango90101"]

are you serious? :lol:

it's called the business model that both sony and ms are using.

so far, sce has lost over 2 billion on the ps3 at only 6 months on the market....

ms will see a profit waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before sony ever does on their console...;)

progenitorvirus

If you can name the business model, you'll have your answer...

and your self ownage...;)

[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Pariah_001"]

[QUOTE="dudy80"]Sony has higher losses tho...dream431ca

Not really since its PS2 is still turning profits.

SCE reported 2 BILLION in losses at only 6 months...

you may want to do more research...;)

MS lost 6 Billion since the launch of the first Xbox in 2001. Their first Xbox only lasted 4 years while the PS2 is coming on 8 years. The 360 will last until 2009, then MS will make a whole new console again...and you'll have to pay MS again and again and again and again.....

The PS2 is still making the most money out of any previous generation console. The PS3 will last well beyond 2012, when MS is on their fourth console.

wow... gamers get to use 2006 graphcis technology in 2012....watta bargain...:lol:

[QUOTE="progenitorvirus"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

are you serious? :lol:

it's called the business model that both sony and ms are using.

so far, sce has lost over 2 billion on the ps3 at only 6 months on the market....

ms will see a profit waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before sony ever does on their console...;)

tango90101

If you can name the business model, you'll have your answer...

and your self ownage...;)

[QUOTE="MADVLAD123"]They're making profit. They've broken even a LONG time ago. I think it's something like 200 dollars for every console.Ibacai

My mistake, I guess I was misinformed. That's why I said "I think".

And Microsoft is making a profit on each console they sell. But they do need to keep putting money into it to increase profit in the future.

[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="progenitorvirus"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

are you serious? :lol:

it's called the business model that both sony and ms are using.

so far, sce has lost over 2 billion on the ps3 at only 6 months on the market....

ms will see a profit waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before sony ever does on their console...;)

progenitorvirus

If you can name the business model, you'll have your answer...

and your self ownage...;)

You no nothing... they are at a 1.89 billion dollar lose for there game division. That includes the first xbox. Where do you get 6B?

[QUOTE="progenitorvirus"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="progenitorvirus"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

are you serious? :lol:

it's called the business model that both sony and ms are using.

so far, sce has lost over 2 billion on the ps3 at only 6 months on the market....

ms will see a profit waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before sony ever does on their console...;)

dudy80

If you can name the business model, you'll have your answer...

and your self ownage...;)

You no nothing... they are at a 1.89 billion dollar lose for there game division. That includes the first xbox. Where do you get 6B?

[QUOTE="dudy80"][QUOTE="progenitorvirus"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="progenitorvirus"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

are you serious? :lol:

it's called the business model that both sony and ms are using.

so far, sce has lost over 2 billion on the ps3 at only 6 months on the market....

ms will see a profit waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before sony ever does on their console...;)

progenitorvirus

If you can name the business model, you'll have your answer...

and your self ownage...;)

You no nothing... they are at a 1.89 billion dollar lose for there game division. That includes the first xbox. Where do you get 6B?

Agian, sony has a 2 billion dollar loss, more then the 360. Yes the ps2 is still making money, but so is vista. And i bet its making more.

[QUOTE="dream431ca"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Pariah_001"]

[QUOTE="dudy80"]Sony has higher losses tho...tango90101

Not really since its PS2 is still turning profits.

SCE reported 2 BILLION in losses at only 6 months...

you may want to do more research...;)

MS lost 6 Billion since the launch of the first Xbox in 2001. Their first Xbox only lasted 4 years while the PS2 is coming on 8 years. The 360 will last until 2009, then MS will make a whole new console again...and you'll have to pay MS again and again and again and again.....

The PS2 is still making the most money out of any previous generation console. The PS3 will last well beyond 2012, when MS is on their fourth console.

wow... gamers get to use 2006 graphcis technology in 2012....watta bargain...:lol:

Yeah. It's quite a bargain, considering, no matter how many consoles MS make, the PS3 will be favored as the PS2 was. Have fun buying future MS consoles with future red ring of deaths.

[QUOTE="MADVLAD123"]They're making profit. They've broken even a LONG time ago. I think it's something like 200 dollars for every console.progenitorvirus

[QUOTE="progenitorvirus"][QUOTE="MADVLAD123"]They're making profit. They've broken even a LONG time ago. I think it's something like 200 dollars for every console.Pangster007

[QUOTE="Pangster007"][QUOTE="progenitorvirus"][QUOTE="MADVLAD123"]They're making profit. They've broken even a LONG time ago. I think it's something like 200 dollars for every console.progenitorvirus

Just shows how much they want to fix problems and improve their console. They made lots of money, and spent more money for the betterment of the 360.

It's not hard to understand.

tell me why. i find it hard to believe that they can't make a profit considering their over-priced accessories $100 for a 20GB :lol: the microtransaction ground of xbox live, and its games generally sell well. you know why im not buying a 360? becuz it would end up taking my money in a subtle way, ask yourself this xbox fanboys, how much have you spent on your 360? with all those ridiculous and over-priced microsoft points, and the seamless amount of downloable content on the marketplace?progenitorvirus

[QUOTE="MADVLAD123"]They're making profit. They've broken even a LONG time ago. I think it's something like 200 dollars for every console.progenitorvirus

[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="dream431ca"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Pariah_001"]

[QUOTE="dudy80"]Sony has higher losses tho...dream431ca

Not really since its PS2 is still turning profits.

SCE reported 2 BILLION in losses at only 6 months...

you may want to do more research...;)

MS lost 6 Billion since the launch of the first Xbox in 2001. Their first Xbox only lasted 4 years while the PS2 is coming on 8 years. The 360 will last until 2009, then MS will make a whole new console again...and you'll have to pay MS again and again and again and again.....

The PS2 is still making the most money out of any previous generation console. The PS3 will last well beyond 2012, when MS is on their fourth console.

iwow... gamers get to use 2006 graphcis technology in 2012....watta bargain...:lol:

Yeah. It's quite a bargain, considering, no matter how many consoles MS make, the PS3 will be favored as the PS2 was. Have fun buying future MS consoles with future red ring of deaths.

might take you seriously if the ps3's sales predictions have come true.... ANY one...

but NONE have..

yet you still predict...

c'mon...:lol:

[QUOTE="dudy80"][QUOTE="progenitorvirus"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="progenitorvirus"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

are you serious? :lol:

it's called the business model that both sony and ms are using.

so far, sce has lost over 2 billion on the ps3 at only 6 months on the market....

ms will see a profit waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before sony ever does on their console...;)

progenitorvirus

If you can name the business model, you'll have your answer...

and your self ownage...;)

You no nothing... they are at a 1.89 billion dollar lose for there game division. That includes the first xbox. Where do you get 6B?

Now I sit back and wait for you to quote me out of context.

[QUOTE="progenitorvirus"][QUOTE="MADVLAD123"]They're making profit. They've broken even a LONG time ago. I think it's something like 200 dollars for every console.KAS3Y_JAM3Z

[QUOTE="progenitorvirus"][QUOTE="dudy80"][QUOTE="progenitorvirus"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="progenitorvirus"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

are you serious? :lol:

it's called the business model that both sony and ms are using.

so far, sce has lost over 2 billion on the ps3 at only 6 months on the market....

ms will see a profit waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before sony ever does on their console...;)

limpbizkit818

If you can name the business model, you'll have your answer...

and your self ownage...;)

You no nothing... they are at a 1.89 billion dollar lose for there game division. That includes the first xbox. Where do you get 6B?

Now I sit back and wait for you to quote me out of context.

[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="dream431ca"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Pariah_001"]

[QUOTE="dudy80"]Sony has higher losses tho...dream431ca

Not really since its PS2 is still turning profits.

SCE reported 2 BILLION in losses at only 6 months...

you may want to do more research...;)

MS lost 6 Billion since the launch of the first Xbox in 2001. Their first Xbox only lasted 4 years while the PS2 is coming on 8 years. The 360 will last until 2009, then MS will make a whole new console again...and you'll have to pay MS again and again and again and again.....

The PS2 is still making the most money out of any previous generation console. The PS3 will last well beyond 2012, when MS is on their fourth console.

wow... gamers get to use 2006 graphcis technology in 2012....watta bargain...:lol:

Yeah. It's quite a bargain, considering, no matter how many consoles MS make, the PS3 will be favored as the PS2 was. Have fun buying future MS consoles with future red ring of deaths.

pretty lame damage control, someone sounds self concious about their PS3 purchase.

[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="progenitorvirus"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

are you serious? :lol:

it's called the business model that both sony and ms are using.

so far, sce has lost over 2 billion on the ps3 at only 6 months on the market....

ms will see a profit waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before sony ever does on their console...;)

progenitorvirus

If you can name the business model, you'll have your answer...

and your self ownage...;)

at the rate SCE is losing money they'll lose 6 billion in less than 2 years...;)

[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="MADVLAD123"]They're making profit. They've broken even a LONG time ago. I think it's something like 200 dollars for every console.MADVLAD123

My mistake, I guess I was misinformed. That's why I said "I think".

And Microsoft is making a profit on each console they sell. But they do need to keep putting money into it to increase profit in the future.

They forgot how to operate without a monopoly.

It gets tougher to make money when you have less than 90% market share.

and umm yes microsoft sets the price for most of the stuff on xbox live-- its there store. look at the gears maps-- epic wanted them for free but microsoft wanted YOU to pay for them. they eventually cut a deal and they are free after a few months.progenitorvirus

Microsoft published Gears, so your point in invalid. Try again

And I love how you say nothing about Downloads on the PSN. $8 for 2 maps cost way more then anything on XBLM.

[QUOTE="limpbizkit818"][QUOTE="progenitorvirus"][QUOTE="dudy80"][QUOTE="progenitorvirus"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="progenitorvirus"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

are you serious? :lol:

it's called the business model that both sony and ms are using.

so far, sce has lost over 2 billion on the ps3 at only 6 months on the market....

ms will see a profit waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before sony ever does on their console...;)

progenitorvirus

If you can name the business model, you'll have your answer...

and your self ownage...;)

You no nothing... they are at a 1.89 billion dollar lose for there game division. That includes the first xbox. Where do you get 6B?

Now I sit back and wait for you to quote me out of context.

I haven't met anyone who has bought a HDD for the 360...People just buy the elite or the premium. The HDDs are only there for people who want to upgrade from the core to a premium or an elite. Are you forgetting that the 360 comes with a hdd, and it really doesn't matter what it costs considering it's still much cheaper than the PS3.

I couldn't care less if the HDD's are that expensive, I have my 2 premiums that work just fine and came with HDDs. All you post is lame damage control, and you're basically flaming. it's funny how much you think the 360 is terrible, but it's still outselling the PS3 in hardware and in games. Hahaha, so what's that say about the ps3?

[QUOTE="MADVLAD123"]They're making profit. They've broken even a LONG time ago. I think it's something like 200 dollars for every console.progenitorvirus

The good news is MS still has RECORD NET profits as a whole though! Good job MS!Heil68

[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="Pariah_001"]

[QUOTE="dudy80"]Sony has higher losses tho...dream431ca

Not really since its PS2 is still turning profits.

SCE reported 2 BILLION in losses at only 6 months...

you may want to do more research...;)

MS lost 6 Billion since the launch of the first Xbox in 2001. Their first Xbox only lasted 4 years while the PS2 is coming on 8 years. The 360 will last until 2009, then MS will make a whole new console again...and you'll have to pay MS again and again and again and again.....

The PS2 is still making the most money out of any previous generation console. The PS3 will last well beyond 2012, when MS is on their fourth console.

Thats a nice crystal ball you've got there.