Why can't ps3 and 360 play together online?

I understand why consoles can't mix with pc in terms of online play. There's no denying that the pc is far superior (in fps at least) to the consoles. I even understand why the wii would make is difficult to mix with the other two consoles... some might find the wiimote to have an unfair advantage. The thing that confuses me (and there's probabaly a really logical reason) is why can't owners of both the 360 and ps3 play together online. I don't see any form of advantage one way or the other.

So yeah why can't the two consoles play with eachother?

I always thought it would be cool to have cross platforming tournaments just to see what happens. I'd enjoy a competition of CoD or Battlefield and the two teams are 360 users vs PS3 users.

The Dreamcast was cross platform with the PC. Fond memories of Quake 3 Arena.

I've always wondered this as well, but I think part of that deals with being a little older and not having a problem buying both systems. It would be nice if the developer had some say. Super Street Fighter 4? Cross platform online would only help that game.

I'm sure a pc person will come in here and explain how it has something to do with p2p and dedicated servers.

360s controller is way better so the players would absolutely destroy ps3 players...

just like how the pc gamers will destroy everyone else

I've always wondered this as well, but I think part of that deals with being a little older and not having a problem buying both systems. It would be nice if the developer had some say. Super Street Fighter 4? Cross platform online would only help that game.

I'm sure a pc person will come in here and explain how it has something to do with p2p and dedicated servers.

Heirren

360s controller is way better so the players would absolutely destroy ps3 players...

just like how the pc gamers will destroy everyone else

BIacckAce

[QUOTE="BIacckAce"]

360s controller is way better so the players would absolutely destroy ps3 players...

just like how the pc gamers will destroy everyone else

MonsieurX

whats wrong with it? you're gonna use the preference argument??

seriously its almost a fact by now... oh wait its system wars.

You didn't see the thread about Portal 2 PC and PS3 players and obviously everyone was laughing at that ps3 players can't even compete

There are an offroad game that allowt it. Dust514 will aswell, if it doesnt turn vaporware.

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]

[QUOTE="BIacckAce"]

360s controller is way better so the players would absolutely destroy ps3 players...

just like how the pc gamers will destroy everyone else

BIacckAce

whats wrong with it? you're gonna use the preference argument??

seriously its almost a fact by now... oh wait its system wars.

You didn't see the thread about Portal 2 PC and PS3 players and obviously everyone was laughing at that ps3 players can't even compete

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

I've always wondered this as well, but I think part of that deals with being a little older and not having a problem buying both systems. It would be nice if the developer had some say. Super Street Fighter 4? Cross platform online would only help that game.

I'm sure a pc person will come in here and explain how it has something to do with p2p and dedicated servers.

alextherussian

I'm not sure I understand what you are saying...

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]

[QUOTE="BIacckAce"]

360s controller is way better so the players would absolutely destroy ps3 players...

just like how the pc gamers will destroy everyone else

BIacckAce

whats wrong with it? you're gonna use the preference argument??

seriously its almost a fact by now... oh wait its system wars.

You didn't see the thread about Portal 2 PC and PS3 players and obviously everyone was laughing at that ps3 players can't even compete

[QUOTE="BIacckAce"]

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Not sure if serious... :?

MonsieurX

whats wrong with it? you're gonna use the preference argument??

seriously its almost a fact by now... oh wait its system wars.

You didn't see the thread about Portal 2 PC and PS3 players and obviously everyone was laughing at that ps3 players can't even compete

theres nothing better on the dualshock 3

bad triggers and even the trigger add on doesn't help much

before you say DPAD they already fixed this on the new xbox controllers.

[QUOTE="alextherussian"]Why do people focus on technical limitations when there are no clear profits that would be made as a result of this? Heirren

I'm not sure I understand what you are saying...

Why would Microsoft and Sony waste money on this when there are no clear profits? Do you really believe that people are willing to pay to play against people on another platform? Shadowrun..

I understand why consoles can't mix with pc in terms of online play. There's no denying that the pc is far superior (in fps at least) to the consoles. I even understand why the wii would make is difficult to mix with the other two consoles... some might find the wiimote to have an unfair advantage. The thing that confuses me (and there's probabaly a really logical reason) is why can't owners of both the 360 and ps3 play together online. I don't see any form of advantage one way or the other.

So yeah why can't the two consoles play with eachother?

mannyboo22

because ps3 owners would be saying thing like, " hows it feel to pay 60$ a year for me to kick ur butt?Renzokucant

After which they get destroyed.

It's MS fault, not sony.

With a system with stuff like Konami ID they can perfectly go crossplatform, but MS wants the monopoly of the online service in a way where developer rights over o nline stuff are gone.

theres nothing better on the dualshock 3

bad triggers and even the trigger add on doesn't help much

before you say DPAD they already fixed this on the new xbox controllers.

BIacckAce

It's completely subjective and just because you prefer 360 controller doesn't make it fact. I prefer PS3 controller, but I know it would be foolish to say it's objectively better.

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="alextherussian"]Why do people focus on technical limitations when there are no clear profits that would be made as a result of this? waltefmoney

I'm not sure I understand what you are saying...

Why would Microsoft and Sony waste money on this when there are no clear profits? Do you really believe that people are willing to pay to play against people on another platform? Shadowrun..

What do you mean by "pay to play"? Believe it or not, but sometimes sacrifices are good for a business as a whole. If there was cross platform gaming--something that could happen if enough consumer demanded it--it would force other means of "one-upping" the competitor.

What do you mean by "pay to play"? Believe it or not, but sometimes sacrifices are good for a business as a whole. If there was cross platform gaming--something that could happen if enough consumer demanded it--it would force other means of "one-upping" the competitor.

Heirren

Sega tried it, didn't work.

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

What do you mean by "pay to play"? Believe it or not, but sometimes sacrifices are good for a business as a whole. If there was cross platform gaming--something that could happen if enough consumer demanded it--it would force other means of "one-upping" the competitor.

waltefmoney

Sega tried it, didn't work.

I really think that if Sony and MS charged the same amount for online play, it would give devs the right to choose whether or not the game would be playable cross-platform. With game development costs rising, it would benefit the developers, which in turn would help the industry out.

I really think that if Sony and MS charged the same amount for online play, it would give devs the right to choose whether or not the game would be playable cross-platform. With game development costs rising, it would benefit the developers, which in turn would help the industry out.

Heirren

So you want Sony to start charging for online play?

360s controller is way better so the players would absolutely destroy ps3 players...

just like how the pc gamers will destroy everyone else

BIacckAce

No it isn't :| Playing side by side for fps's I actually prefer the PS3 controller slightly more.. Not to mention the 360 controller is god awful for fighters and pretty much demands for you to have a joystick... They are both good controllers with their own drawbacks, its based upon preference more then anything.

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="BIacckAce"]

whats wrong with it? you're gonna use the preference argument??

seriously its almost a fact by now... oh wait its system wars.

You didn't see the thread about Portal 2 PC and PS3 players and obviously everyone was laughing at that ps3 players can't even compete

BIacckAce

theres nothing better on the dualshock 3

bad triggers and even the trigger add on doesn't help much

before you say DPAD they already fixed this on the new xbox controllers.

You don't use the triggers for shooters on the PS3 controller.. You use the bumpers.

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

I really think that if Sony and MS charged the same amount for online play, it would give devs the right to choose whether or not the game would be playable cross-platform. With game development costs rising, it would benefit the developers, which in turn would help the industry out.

waltefmoney

So you want Sony to start charging for online play?

Chances are they will start charging next gen, and if that saved me from buying more than one console, then in ways I'm all for it. That sounds like a "what-the-f" statement, but it would force pubs/devs to really put out quality titles. This is why I tend to prefer the Sony side of things most of the time, because they have a focus on quality titles within the company. Of course it is all business in a lot of respects, but when I see the money I spend--in a positive way of looking at things--going into R&D for games, essentially, that seems like healthy business. When I see MS, on the other hand, spend 500 million dollars on trying to force a new product to market when there are next to no games being shown for the core audience that initially bought their product? Perhaps I'm just getting old.

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="BIacckAce"]

whats wrong with it? you're gonna use the preference argument??

seriously its almost a fact by now... oh wait its system wars.

You didn't see the thread about Portal 2 PC and PS3 players and obviously everyone was laughing at that ps3 players can't even compete

BIacckAce

theres nothing better on the dualshock 3

bad triggers and even the trigger add on doesn't help much

before you say DPAD they already fixed this on the new xbox controllers.

Dude quit trolling this thread. I guarantee you if you and I were to go head to head in bc2 me with my dual shock and you with your 360 controller I'd beat you 10 out of 10. There is absolutely no difference in both controllers.

[QUOTE="BIacckAce"]

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Well,I apporve the fact that kb&mouse would destroy everything,but when it goes to the 360\PS3 controllers,how come it's almost a fact?mannyboo22

theres nothing better on the dualshock 3

bad triggers and even the trigger add on doesn't help much

before you say DPAD they already fixed this on the new xbox controllers.

Dude quit trolling this thread. I guarantee you if you and I were to go head to head in bc2 me with my dual shock and you with your 360 controller I'd beat you 10 out of 10. There is absolutely no difference in both controllers.

Actually there is a difference. The 360 controller was built with the FPS in mind. The dualshock was built with ZERO regard for fps games. It comes down to the analog sticks, and in this regard the 360 pad is superior. If FPS games were popular in Japan, I'd imagine the Dualshock would have changed by now. I'm actually surprised that the DS design has not changed to support the evolving game design.

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="alextherussian"]Why do people focus on technical limitations when there are no clear profits that would be made as a result of this? waltefmoney

I'm not sure I understand what you are saying...

Why would Microsoft and Sony waste money on this when there are no clear profits? Do you really believe that people are willing to pay to play against people on another platform? Shadowrun..

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There is no reason technically they are just rival companies...

It comes down to the analog sticks, and in this regard the 360 pad is superior.

Heirren

How?

Its funny how a thread about 360 and PS3 players playing together online has degraded to a debate about controllers.

Grow up.

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

It comes down to the analog sticks, and in this regard the 360 pad is superior.

brendanhunt1

How?

I understand why consoles can't mix with pc in terms of online play. There's no denying that the pc is far superior (in fps at least) to the consoles. I even understand why the wii would make is difficult to mix with the other two consoles... some might find the wiimote to have an unfair advantage. The thing that confuses me (and there's probabaly a really logical reason) is why can't owners of both the 360 and ps3 play together online. I don't see any form of advantage one way or the other.

So yeah why can't the two consoles play with eachother?

mannyboo22

If I could have always played with my 360 friends on my PS3, I would have NEVER purchased a 360 at all. It was literally the selling point to the console for me. Both Sony and M$ know that letting players cross platforms online will result in less sales for them. Obviously, that's not very good business practice.

That would be hillarious :D

one side pays 60 bucks a year while the other is sailing through the free skys :D

also i'd luv to kick some lemming cheaks :twisted:

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]

[QUOTE="BIacckAce"]

360s controller is way better so the players would absolutely destroy ps3 players...

just like how the pc gamers will destroy everyone else

BIacckAce

whats wrong with it? you're gonna use the preference argument??

seriously its almost a fact by now... oh wait its system wars.

You didn't see the thread about Portal 2 PC and PS3 players and obviously everyone was laughing at that ps3 players can't even compete

I would use a PS3 controller over the 360 controller any day. Your argument is invalid.

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

It comes down to the analog sticks, and in this regard the 360 pad is superior.

brendanhunt1

How?

[QUOTE="brendanhunt1"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

It comes down to the analog sticks, and in this regard the 360 pad is superior.

DevilMightCry

How?

I did not not know that. What is the difference in 8bit vs 6bit? I can't see it making a difference, with all the multiplatform games, anyways. The very reason the 360 is better in terms of fps play is because the controller was designed for them. Like I said earlier, the dual shock was designed all the way back in 1997!!(it could have been 1996). Now, console fps games were not really the "thing" back then, and the ds was designed with more eastern oriented game design in mind. That is also a fact. MS actually listened to the complaints and gamer feedback in designing the 360 pad. So in a sense that is proof, as well.

I used to state that the ps3 pad was "overall" better, because of the faulty 360 dpad, but supposedly that has been fixed(i'm yet to test it out with Street Fighter).

Well the shape of the DS3 is similiar to the PS controller. But it's not quite the same.

The 360 is more comfortable when you hold it. And it is very ergonomical for FPS and Racing games. Precise it is no more than the DS3 though. It's just preference.

The 360 is more comfortable when you hold it. And it is very ergonomical for FPS and Racing games. Precise it is no more than the DS3 though. It's just preference.

DevilMightCry

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"]The 360 is more comfortable when you hold it. And it is very ergonomical for FPS and Racing games. Precise it is no more than the DS3 though. It's just preference.

robokill

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"]The 360 is more comfortable when you hold it. And it is very ergonomical for FPS and Racing games. Precise it is no more than the DS3 though. It's just preference.

robokill

It's MS fault, not sony.

With a system with stuff like Konami ID they can perfectly go crossplatform, but MS wants the monopoly of the online service in a way where developer rights over o nline stuff are gone.

blitzcloud

yeah man Preach the false information...remind me when did sony put forth that cross platform plan the comprehensive one where they approached Microsoft and microsoft denied them?