Why console gaming is better then pc

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[QUOTE="NinjaSkills247"]Pro Tip: Most hermits don't have friends.NinjaSkills247

OMG you're so right, that explains why I was at some anonymous mans house last night drinking with these other guys I would'nt consider friends. Oh wait and then I went with these guys to an unkown party where I met a bunch of other randoms. But you see, none of them talked to me becasue i'm an antisocial Hermit right?

Man you're so right, I dont have any friends.

It's funny how nearly all my friends are hermits too.

When company is over, games are the last thing on my mind.

So this just fails miserably.

mo0ksi

TC is prolly still a young boy, friends usually live next door or a few blocks away.

PC gamers are generally a bit older (it costs more too, kiddies cant afford it), and adulthood friends usually live far away. Meaning if a friend come over its a special occassion, and no we dont sit behind a lame console to play games with them.

I am being a bit shortsighted, like TC.

Spilt screen. Its the funnest part about gaming. I mean who wants 2 play games by themself all day. id rather play with my friends then play by myself. And also coop makes games so much better and no pc game has that. I mean when u play games on pc u always have 2 take turns who wants 2 do that. if u have more ten 2 frends over who the hell plays pc. oh lets play crysis we can take turns every time somone dies.

loomlumloom

The only game I'd play with friends sitting next to me is Brawl. And that isn't even split-screen.

And seriously, is looking at a screen half the size of your TV really supposed to be fun? It gets even worse when you divide them into quadrants... Say hello to blindness.

as if hot chiks are intrested in u guys playin computer games

loomlumloom

Hot chicks aren't interested in guys who group up and play a game on consoles either, your point?

PC gamers have friends?robflores370

Pro Tip: Most hermits don't have friends.NinjaSkills247

Yes, we have friends, but unlike you guys they don't have to be gaming partners to be considered "friends". :roll:

Haha, yet another failed topic.

And "Who Wants 2 Play Games All Day"....

Ur on the computer...., you can press alt tab and do anything u like

Consoles are way better than PC.

Cheaper,,,,no update,,,,,no piracy,,,,,,online on consoles are improving,,,,graphics on consoles are improving and all at a cheaper cost;)

Spilt screen. Its the funnest part about gaming. I mean who wants 2 play games by themself all day. id rather play with my friends then play by myself. And also coop makes games so much better and no pc game has that. I mean when u play games on pc u always have 2 take turns who wants 2 do that. if u have more ten 2 frends over who the hell plays pc. oh lets play crysis we can take turns every time somone dies.

loomlumloom

Yet console gamers get exited with a certain thing called 'online play' and 'local area network' play.
:?

graphics on consoles are improving and all at a cheaper cost;)

jasonheyman

The hardware doesent improve.

Developers learn how to work around the constraints better.

...which is the same on PC... hence why games like Sins of a Solar Empire look spectacular on older hardware.

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Spilt screen. Its the funnest part about gaming. I mean who wants 2 play games by themself all day. id rather play with my friends then play by myself. And also coop makes games so much better and no pc game has that. I mean when u play games on pc u always have 2 take turns who wants 2 do that. if u have more ten 2 frends over who the hell plays pc. oh lets play crysis we can take turns every time somone dies.

skrat_01

Yet console gamers get exited with a certain thing called 'online play' and 'local area network' play.
:?

That is a load! Online is growing across all platforms and MS is leading it as of now,,, Sorry but any online game is "social gaming" my friend lol Fail try again...

no piracy

jasonheyman

False.

[QUOTE="jasonheyman"]

graphics on consoles are improving and all at a cheaper cost;)

skrat_01

The hardware doesent improve.

Developers learn how to work around the constraints better.

...which is the same on PC... hence why games like Sins of a Solar Empire look spectacular on older hardware.

OK let me try this again, Have graphics not improved from original Xbox to the 360 or the PS2 to the PS3 ah Yes! They do improve and they improve through the life cycle of that console. Software companies get better and programming for them... So yes they do improve fail number 2

[QUOTE="jasonheyman"]

graphics on consoles are improving and all at a cheaper cost;)

skrat_01

The hardware doesent improve.

Developers learn how to work around the constraints better.

...which is the same on PC... hence why games like Sins of a Solar Empire look spectacular on older hardware.

This cant be said when comparing the resources a console requires to produce the same graphics as a pc counterpart. I doubt that Far Cry 2 will look and run the same way it does on the 360 if you have a 300 dollar PC.

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Spilt screen. Its the funnest part about gaming. I mean who wants 2 play games by themself all day. id rather play with my friends then play by myself. And also coop makes games so much better and no pc game has that. I mean when u play games on pc u always have 2 take turns who wants 2 do that. if u have more ten 2 frends over who the hell plays pc. oh lets play crysis we can take turns every time somone dies.

jasonheyman

Yet console gamers get exited with a certain thing called 'online play' and 'local area network' play.
:?

That is a load! Online is growing across all platforms and MS is leading it as of now,,, Sorry but any online game is "social gaming" my friend lol Fail try again...

I said split screen aka local multiplayer has been snubbed by console developers for online play.... I would know as its one of my favourite features in console gaming, and only a few games still stand as great split screen ones.

Of course online games = social gaming, I meant the Wii is primarily focused in social gaming in a local context - hence why I said local multiplayer.

There is no fail, no try again and 'my friend' eh? :?

Only your own misinterpretation

[QUOTE="jasonheyman"]

no piracy

HenriH-42

False.

Nothing and I mean Nothing compared to PC piracy. Fact..

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="jasonheyman"]

graphics on consoles are improving and all at a cheaper cost;)

wile315

The hardware doesent improve.

Developers learn how to work around the constraints better.

...which is the same on PC... hence why games like Sins of a Solar Empire look spectacular on older hardware.

This cant be said when comparing the resources a console requires to produce the same graphics as a pc counterpart. I doubt that Far Cry 2 will look and run the same way it does on the 360 if you have a 300 dollar PC.

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no piracy

jasonheyman

False.

Nothing and I mean Nothing compared to PC piracy. Fact..

Still, you said that there is no piracy. Which is false.

[QUOTE="jasonheyman"][QUOTE="HenriH-42"][QUOTE="jasonheyman"]

no piracy

HenriH-42

False.

Nothing and I mean Nothing compared to PC piracy. Fact..

Still, you said that there is no piracy. Which is false.

Really their isn't how many consoles have you heard of piracy 0 to none! It is way easier to download illegally on a pc then remake a harddrive console to get games illegally that way..

[QUOTE="HenriH-42"][QUOTE="jasonheyman"]

no piracy

jasonheyman

False.

Nothing and I mean Nothing compared to PC piracy. Fact..

Of course this is not factoring in pre owned games sales as well -even Bungie thinks it is a major problem.

However of course piracy is more of a problem on PC, doesent mean games dont sell very well.... e.g. orange box outselling the 360 and ps3 versions combined by 'double figures'..... Or Bioshocks sales being pretty much on par for each system (2 million total).

Really their isn't how many consoles have you heard of piracy 0 to none! It is way easier to download illegally on a pc then remake a harddrive console to get games illegally that way..

jasonheyman

You can softmod or hardmod your Wii or 360...

Its also legal here, and plenty of consoles likes the PS2, Wii and 360 are chipped here - by the many modders around. Personally im still yet to chip a console, though I do have a Dreamcast boot disk, when I bought it second hand.

[QUOTE="jasonheyman"][QUOTE="HenriH-42"][QUOTE="jasonheyman"]

no piracy

skrat_01

False.

Nothing and I mean Nothing compared to PC piracy. Fact..

Of course this is not factoring in pre owned games sales as well -even Bungie thinks it is a major problem.

However of course piracy is more of a problem on PC, doesent mean games dont sell very well.... e.g. orange box outselling the 360 and ps3 versions combined by 'double figures'..... Or Bioshocks sales being pretty much on par for each system (2 million total).

No but look at all the articles on pissed off devs who do go multiplat to make up their loses on piracy on PC. It is hardly ever done on console and thats why those devs jump to that platform it's much more safe! The may sell well (on PC) but they do lose a lot of money because of this issue...

another Splitscreen topic..

seriously, splitscreen is dying. It wont be an advantage anymore in a few years

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="jasonheyman"][QUOTE="HenriH-42"][QUOTE="jasonheyman"]

no piracy

jasonheyman

False.

Nothing and I mean Nothing compared to PC piracy. Fact..

Of course this is not factoring in pre owned games sales as well -even Bungie thinks it is a major problem.

However of course piracy is more of a problem on PC, doesent mean games dont sell very well.... e.g. orange box outselling the 360 and ps3 versions combined by 'double figures'..... Or Bioshocks sales being pretty much on par for each system (2 million total).

No but look at all the articles on pissed of devs who do go multiplat to make up their loses on piracy on PC. It is hardly ever done on console and thats why those devs jump to that platform it's much more safe! The may sell well but they do lose a lot of money because of this issue...

Of course just becasuse a platform is 'more safe' doesent mean that games are automatically going to sell better at all... There are many costs involved in console development, and its much more difficult to get your game out there. Besides both are completely different styles of market anyway.

No but look at all the articles on pissed off devs who do go multiplat to make up their loses on piracy on PC. It is hardly ever done on console and thats why those devs jump to that platform it's much more safe! The may sell well (on PC) but they do lose a lot of money because of this issue...

jasonheyman

STALKER selling 2 million proves that any dev that whines about PC piracy needs to look into mirror and wonder if their game was any good in the first place? Original games sell on PC, rehashed trash doesn't. That's the way it goes, any dev that wants to sell crappy, unoriginal games (Epic Games) needs to go multiplatform, and they need an excuse for that - and piracy is a perfect excuse for them.

Devs go multiplat because of major development costs, that is the major issue. The devs that have called piracy can use it as a scape goat to hide behind. Im not saying its a factor, but when certain developers cite it as an 'issue' yet other pc developers like GSC (who are vritually unknown) have a new IP and it breaks 2 million sales, something is up.

Of course just becasuse a platform is 'more safe' doesent mean that games are automatically going to sell better at all... There are many costs involved in console development, and its much more difficult to get your game out there. Besides both are completely different styles of market anyway.

skrat_01

Well heck what I've read up on about it is yeah some do "secretly" love piracy! It can help the sales of their hardware. But most Developers Hate it! MS has went out of it's way to prevent it....

[QUOTE="jasonheyman"]

No but look at all the articles on pissed off devs who do go multiplat to make up their loses on piracy on PC. It is hardly ever done on console and thats why those devs jump to that platform it's much more safe! The may sell well (on PC) but they do lose a lot of money because of this issue...

HenriH-42

STALKER selling 2 million proves that any dev that whines about PC piracy needs to look into mirror and wonder if their game was any good in the first place? Original games sell on PC, rehashed trash doesn't. That's the way it goes, any dev that wants to sell crappy, unoriginal games (Epic Games) needs to go multiplatform, and they need an excuse for that - and piracy is a perfect excuse for them.

Yeah well dont forget "Crytek" is makin the same move "Epic" did!

[QUOTE="HenriH-42"][QUOTE="jasonheyman"]

No but look at all the articles on pissed off devs who do go multiplat to make up their loses on piracy on PC. It is hardly ever done on console and thats why those devs jump to that platform it's much more safe! The may sell well (on PC) but they do lose a lot of money because of this issue...

jasonheyman

STALKER selling 2 million proves that any dev that whines about PC piracy needs to look into mirror and wonder if their game was any good in the first place? Original games sell on PC, rehashed trash doesn't. That's the way it goes, any dev that wants to sell crappy, unoriginal games (Epic Games) needs to go multiplatform, and they need an excuse for that - and piracy is a perfect excuse for them.

Yeah well dont forget "Crytek" is makin the same move "Epic" did!

Yet Crysis Warhead was still a PC exclusive... Hmm.

I guess they were expecting 5 million+ sales. 1.5 million is pretty damn impressive for a game that no PC can max out today. And also, PC games sell for a LONG period of time. People are still buying Diablo 2 and Starcraft for example. Unlike console games, which sell like crazy for few months and then no-one buys them anymore.

Grand Theft Auto IV raked in more than $500 million in its first week in stores, selling more than 6 million units worldwide

Now thats impressive! That was just the first week! And they still sell copies of that game! And thats just one!

So I don't get you logic??

Grand Theft Auto IV raked in more than $500 million in its first week in stores, selling more than 6 million units worldwide

Now thats impressive! That was just the first week! And they still sell copies of that game! And thats just one!

So I don't get you logic??

jasonheyman

Grand Theft Auto IV raked in more than $500 million in its first week in stores, selling more than 6 million units worldwide

Now thats impressive! That was just the first week! And they still sell copies of that game! And thats just one!

So I don't get you logic??

jasonheyman

That's friggin' Grand Theft Auto. It's one of the most popular game franchises out there, and GTA IV was hyped and advertised A LOT. And it's multiplatform.

What's your point? Console games sell more? Of course they do. Does that make them better? No.

another Splitscreen topic..

seriously, splitscreen is dying. It wont be an advantage anymore in a few years

killerfist

I agree with this to a point! Multi online play is where it's at...

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another Splitscreen topic..

seriously, splitscreen is dying. It wont be an advantage anymore in a few years

jasonheyman

I agree with this to a point! Multi online play is where it's at...

online play is where its at. But split screen is the whole attractiveness of a console. Buddies coming over and playing gears co-op on split screen. Can only do that on console alone. So if its dying, I guess i wont be getting a console in the future.

[QUOTE="jasonheyman"][QUOTE="killerfist"]

another Splitscreen topic..

seriously, splitscreen is dying. It wont be an advantage anymore in a few years

wile315

I agree with this to a point! Multi online play is where it's at...

online play is where its at. But split screen is the whole attractiveness of a console. Buddies coming over and playing gears co-op on split screen. Can only do that on console alone. So if its dying, I guess i wont be getting a console in the future.

The future for splitscreen is not looking good imo.

(dunno about Nintendo though)

No but look at all the articles on pissed off devs who do go multiplat to make up their loses on piracy on PC. It is hardly ever done on console and thats why those devs jump to that platform it's much more safe! The may sell well (on PC) but they do lose a lot of money because of this issue...

jasonheyman

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="jasonheyman"][QUOTE="HenriH-42"][QUOTE="jasonheyman"]

no piracy

jasonheyman

False.

Nothing and I mean Nothing compared to PC piracy. Fact..

Of course this is not factoring in pre owned games sales as well -even Bungie thinks it is a major problem.

However of course piracy is more of a problem on PC, doesent mean games dont sell very well.... e.g. orange box outselling the 360 and ps3 versions combined by 'double figures'..... Or Bioshocks sales being pretty much on par for each system (2 million total).

No but look at all the articles on pissed off devs who do go multiplat to make up their loses on piracy on PC. It is hardly ever done on console and thats why those devs jump to that platform it's much more safe! The may sell well (on PC) but they do lose a lot of money because of this issue...

What!? I know about five of my mates that have never brought a legal Xbox game in their life.

yeah id rather actually have my friends with me then playing them online the whole time. much better if they are thier in person.

loomlumloom

Go and google for "LAN".

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yeah id rather actually have my friends with me then playing them online the whole time. much better if they are thier in person.

nethernova

Go and google for "LAN".

LAN gaming is a hassle, Splitscreen not

Grand Theft Auto IV raked in more than $500 million in its first week in stores, selling more than 6 million units worldwide

Now thats impressive! That was just the first week! And they still sell copies of that game! And thats just one!

So I don't get you logic??

jasonheyman

The GTA franchise dished out a lot of titles before making it really popular.

GTA4 has a massive marketing campaign while being cross-platform at the same time. You would think that it would sell that much with its popularity.

Pretty unfair comparison to STALKER and Crysis, games that had very little advertising.

I consider myself mainly a consolite....and even I think splitscreen sucks.

I hate sharing a screen.

If i'm gonna game with mates, i'd rather they stay at home and we can play co-op via XBL.

Sports games are ok though as its all in the same screen.

and then things like rock band

[QUOTE="HenriH-42"][QUOTE="jasonheyman"]

no piracy

jasonheyman

False.

Nothing and I mean Nothing compared to PC piracy. Fact..

explain the million or copies or so gta4 being played in the weeks leading up to the release then

explain the million or copies or so gta4 being played in the weeks leading up to the release then imprezawrx500

Link?

[QUOTE="HenriH-42"][QUOTE="jasonheyman"][QUOTE="HenriH-42"][QUOTE="jasonheyman"]

no piracy

jasonheyman

False.

Nothing and I mean Nothing compared to PC piracy. Fact..

Still, you said that there is no piracy. Which is false.

Really their isn't how many consoles have you heard of piracy 0 to none! It is way easier to download illegally on a pc then remake a harddrive console to get games illegally that way..

ps2 has huge piracy, go to vid store, hire game is just as easy as downloading it. x360 is fully cracked so every gameever made for it can work illigally. the fact is consoles have basicly as much piracy

[QUOTE="jasonheyman"][QUOTE="HenriH-42"][QUOTE="jasonheyman"]

no piracy

imprezawrx500

False.

Nothing and I mean Nothing compared to PC piracy. Fact..

explain the million or copies or so gta4 being played in the weeks leading up to the release then

ps2 has huge piracy, go to vid store, hire game is just as easy as downloading it. x360 is fully cracked so every gameever made for it can work illigally. the fact is consoles have basicly as much piracy imprezawrx500

Lol links my friend! Not blogged links either. Back your statements...

Grand Theft Auto IV raked in more than $500 million in its first week in stores, selling more than 6 million units worldwide

Now thats impressive! That was just the first week! And they still sell copies of that game! And thats just one!

So I don't get you logic??

jasonheyman

how many did it sell in september? probably not many since console games are only really sold in the first month or so while game like orange box, crysis and even counter strke are still selling on pc

[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"]ps2 has huge piracy, go to vid store, hire game is just as easy as downloading it. x360 is fully cracked so every gameever made for it can work illigally. the fact is consoles have basicly as much piracy jasonheyman

Lol links my friend! Not blogged links either. Back your statements...

there is no point in even doing it, nothing but a waste of time, consoles have huge priracy problems just sony and ms don't want everyone to know about it. google mod chip and see how many mill results you get. mod chip and every single game every made for the console will work without paying for it. every pc game has to have a crack and there are pleanty of console games downloaded as well. your average joe wouldn't have a clue how to pirate a game wheather its pc or console, but pc gamers tend to know more so don't buy the average games, if you had lots of hardcore console gamers they would do the same.

Ah Halo 3 did just as good only ten million less. Consoles all have a list of top games that sell just as much as PC games (not all but some)....jasonheyman

I bet the orange box has outsold halo3 this year. you still haven't told me how many gta4 sales there were in sep, sure many console games sell well but not a year after their release, stalker, cryisis, counter strike, tf2, cod4 etc are all still selling well on pc