Why consoles rule the PC.

[QUOTE="cobrax25"]

http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2005/feb/1114806.htm

"The Sims franchise has shipped over 52 million units worldwide, including more than 16 million units of the original product, The Sims."

CowboyR0y

Ok one game sold well but that's about it. Consoles get the best developers and the best sales. If you want games from legendary developer like Namco, Nintendo, Capcom's and Konami's best then console is the only option. GTA sold so many times more copies on console then PC and so did Halo. Even orange box is outselling it's PC couter-part and it's a game that mainly appeals to PC gamers.

stop making up BS.....Orange box sold far more on the PC....and thats not even including steam sales...which made up the majority.

I dont even care about sales...but if thats all you got agaist PC gaming...go ahead....If it makes you feel better about your console thats not able to keep up with the amount of AA/AAA exclusives the PC is getting.

Actually, PC gaming has higher revenues worldwide. Outside of the US/Japan, PC gaming is much more popular then consoles.

Not higher revenues, but more players thanks to Korea.wok7

Racist and erroneous.

The console versions score better because of lower standards.

The ultimate excuse, consoles games are actually held to much higher standards since they actually have something to compete against, other console games. While PC gaes only have older games to compare to.wok7

There's only one ultimate excuse, and it's dribbling from your mouth. You don't compare games across systems. That means console scores don't compete against each other easier. Please, read the GameSpot FAQ, I grow tired of pointing out your ridiculous and ignorant statements.

Goldeneye, PD, Halo, all examples of FPS's don e right on consoles, better than the PC FPS too. Their controls ar enot awkward, if fact they are better than the old and tired M/KB. Though still not as precise for sniping.wok7

Yes they are. Try attacking someone behind you quickly with a controller, then try it with a mouse. The mouse will always be faster. This isn't subjective, the KB/M is a better tool, and with two players of equal skill, the one using a KB/M will always beat the controller.

Halo's, Half Life's, FEAR, most other PC FPS's. Elebits for the physics part.

As for those PC reviews, you should read were the PC port actually seems like a port now that the Dev's focused so much on the console versions nowadays.wok7

Oblivion began development in 2002, before the next gen consoles had dev kits released. It's primary platform is very much the PC.

Sorry, but like I've said, PC isn't better than the consoles anymore. If it bugs you so much, upgrade to a time machine and go live in the 90's again.

wok7

Yet you've failed to prove that.

[QUOTE="wok7"]

lol @ counting AA's, espceially since no ones even heard of most of those releases. Sorry Cobrax, try again.

Einhanderkiller

Uh, PC gamers have. Games like The Ship and DEFCON: Everybody Dies are incredibly high quality games, it's just that they fit into a niche market. You just haven't heard of them because you seem to care only about console gaming.

lol, its so funny when people think Digital Distribution (not by torrents) has any signifacnt effect, oh well, I'm done standing on these PC'rs tonight, catch ya'll later.wok7

roflamo...valve just said that steam has 13 million users....

[QUOTE="cobrax25"]

http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2005/feb/1114806.htm

"The Sims franchise has shipped over 52 million units worldwide, including more than 16 million units of the original product, The Sims."

CowboyR0y

Ok one game sold well but that's about it. Consoles get the best developers and the best sales. If you want games from legendary developer like Namco, Nintendo, Capcom's and Konami's best then console is the only option. GTA sold so many times more copies on console then PC and so did Halo. Even orange box is outselling it's PC couter-part and it's a game that mainly appeals to PC gamers.

And they dont count steam sales.

[QUOTE="cobrax25"]

http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2005/feb/1114806.htm

"The Sims franchise has shipped over 52 million units worldwide, including more than 16 million units of the original product, The Sims."

CowboyR0y

Ok one game sold well but that's about it. Consoles get the best developers and the best sales. If you want games from legendary developer like Namco, Nintendo, Capcom's and Konami's best then console is the only option. GTA sold so many times more copies on console then PC and so did Halo. Even orange box is outselling it's PC couter-part and it's a game that mainly appeals to PC gamers.

1) Orange Box is selling the most on PC.

2) You promised 12 games on PS2 that had outsold any PC game. Where are they?

lol, its so funny when people think Digital Distribution (not by torrents) has any signifacnt effect, oh well, I'm done standing on these PC'rs tonight, catch ya'll later.wok7

It's size is about half of all consoles revenue. So yeah I'd say it's significant.

Also, enjoy your defeat.

[QUOTE="wok7"]lol, its so funny when people think Digital Distribution (not by torrents) has any signifacnt effect, oh well, I'm done standing on these PC'rs tonight, catch ya'll later.cobrax25

roflamo...valve just said that steam has 13 million users....

what crytek notes???

My my, you've fallen out of the loop, they've admitted the environments to be not so destructible, less so than that of Red Faction. Holes in the walls and breakable trees.And lol at that vid,you don't control scripts ya know.

Sry i missed your post but Now I'm off : )

Price and Exclusives are just two of the many reasons why consoles PWN the computer nowadays.wok7

:lol: Right...

[QUOTE="CowboyR0y"][QUOTE="cobrax25"]

go ahead and try...the sims outsold every PS2 game by a wide margin.

Danm_999

Still waiting for that link :roll:

Good summary here.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2188339,00.asp

Let me summarize the important bits;

• NPD combines all consoles and handhelds (9 in total) in it's figures, and keeps PC seperate. So if we divide total console revenue by 9, we get the PC very strong in comparison.
• NPD only tracks RETAIL and only tracks IN THE USA. Worldwide, in Europe and Asia excluding Japan PC games top sales charts.
• NPD does not track digital distribution, which generates about 3.8 bn in revenue in 2006 (that's about half of all console game sales in 2006).

Thank you for posting these statistics. They prove what I have been saying all along. Game sales on consoles are greater then on PC and in places like Japan it's even a bigger difference then the US.

PC: $970 million, Consoles: $6.4 billion. Those are the facts and you can spin if it if you want but there they are.

what crytek notes???

My my, you've fallen out of the loop, they've admitted the environments to be not so destructible, less so than that of Red Faction. Holes in the walls and breakable trees.And lol at that vid,you don't control scripts ya know.

Sry i missed your post but Now I'm off : )

wok7

link?

they havent admited anything...the last videos they produced all showed houses being blown apart board by board....

Didn't TFC do the whole "grenade on a separate button" thing like...2 years before halo did?

Olidsc

Yea. Team Fortress Classic actually had TWO granade buttons. A Primary and a Secondary hehe

[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="CowboyR0y"][QUOTE="cobrax25"]

go ahead and try...the sims outsold every PS2 game by a wide margin.

CowboyR0y

Still waiting for that link :roll:

Good summary here.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2188339,00.asp

Let me summarize the important bits;

• NPD combines all consoles and handhelds (9 in total) in it's figures, and keeps PC seperate. So if we divide total console revenue by 9, we get the PC very strong in comparison.
• NPD only tracks RETAIL and only tracks IN THE USA. Worldwide, in Europe and Asia excluding Japan PC games top sales charts.
• NPD does not track digital distribution, which generates about 3.8 bn in revenue in 2006 (that's about half of all console game sales in 2006).

Thank you for posting these statistics. They prove what I have been saying all along. Game sales on consoles are greater then on PC and in places like Japan it's even a bigger difference then the US.

does it make you feel happy that 9 different platforms combined beat out the PC?

[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="CowboyR0y"][QUOTE="cobrax25"]

go ahead and try...the sims outsold every PS2 game by a wide margin.

CowboyR0y

Still waiting for that link :roll:

Good summary here.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2188339,00.asp

Let me summarize the important bits;

• NPD combines all consoles and handhelds (9 in total) in it's figures, and keeps PC seperate. So if we divide total console revenue by 9, we get the PC very strong in comparison.
• NPD only tracks RETAIL and only tracks IN THE USA. Worldwide, in Europe and Asia excluding Japan PC games top sales charts.
• NPD does not track digital distribution, which generates about 3.8 bn in revenue in 2006 (that's about half of all console game sales in 2006).

Thank you for posting these statistics. They prove what I have been saying all along. Game sales on consoles are greater then on PC and in places like Japan it's even a bigger difference then the US.

My, my my. You truly are desperate, you need a 9 to 1 advantage. Did you read the article? The PC sells better than any console. There is no reason to combine consoles, as you cannot play a Wii game on the PS3, nor a DS game on the 360.

But you can play any PC game on any modern PC.

Oh, and I'm still waiting on those 12 PS2 games that have sold more than any PC game.

[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="CowboyR0y"][QUOTE="cobrax25"]

go ahead and try...the sims outsold every PS2 game by a wide margin.

CowboyR0y

Still waiting for that link :roll:

Good summary here.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2188339,00.asp

Let me summarize the important bits;

• NPD combines all consoles and handhelds (9 in total) in it's figures, and keeps PC seperate. So if we divide total console revenue by 9, we get the PC very strong in comparison.
• NPD only tracks RETAIL and only tracks IN THE USA. Worldwide, in Europe and Asia excluding Japan PC games top sales charts.
• NPD does not track digital distribution, which generates about 3.8 bn in revenue in 2006 (that's about half of all console game sales in 2006).

Thank you for posting these statistics. They prove what I have been saying all along. Game sales on consoles are greater then on PC and in places like Japan it's even a bigger difference then the US.

"But there's even more to it than that. First of all, NPD only tracks retail sales, and only in the U.S.."

Taken from the article.

So if PC retail sales ONLY IN THE US are about the same as the average sales for any one console, what about the rest of the world playing PC games? What about online dustribution where the total sales is half OF ALL CONSOLE SALES COMBINED?

[QUOTE="CowboyR0y"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="CowboyR0y"][QUOTE="cobrax25"]

go ahead and try...the sims outsold every PS2 game by a wide margin.

cobrax25

Still waiting for that link :roll:

Good summary here.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2188339,00.asp

Let me summarize the important bits;

• NPD combines all consoles and handhelds (9 in total) in it's figures, and keeps PC seperate. So if we divide total console revenue by 9, we get the PC very strong in comparison.
• NPD only tracks RETAIL and only tracks IN THE USA. Worldwide, in Europe and Asia excluding Japan PC games top sales charts.
• NPD does not track digital distribution, which generates about 3.8 bn in revenue in 2006 (that's about half of all console game sales in 2006).

Thank you for posting these statistics. They prove what I have been saying all along. Game sales on consoles are greater then on PC and in places like Japan it's even a bigger difference then the US.

does it make you feel happy that 9 different platforms combined beat out the PC?

Well it completely proves my point. People prefer consoles to PC for gaming and everyone owns a PC... most just don't play many games on it.

Secondly, I will repeat my question: "So, console "rule" PC's due to your incompetence?"

What you smoking? I may not be a tech guy. But I have been using windows for 10+ years. I use MS office, publisher,Adobe Acrobat, built and mantain my website, spam email..ect.ect..have also wasted hours on countless MMO's. So it is not my incompetence. FYI I prefer the PC over consoles.I am just stating a fact. If I have issues as long as I have been using PC's its no wonder people prefer playing on a console. I have yet to get Vista but maybe Vista can finaly fix these issues with lic. thru games for windows.

[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="CowboyR0y"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="CowboyR0y"][QUOTE="cobrax25"]

go ahead and try...the sims outsold every PS2 game by a wide margin.

CowboyR0y

Still waiting for that link :roll:

Good summary here.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2188339,00.asp

Let me summarize the important bits;

• NPD combines all consoles and handhelds (9 in total) in it's figures, and keeps PC seperate. So if we divide total console revenue by 9, we get the PC very strong in comparison.
• NPD only tracks RETAIL and only tracks IN THE USA. Worldwide, in Europe and Asia excluding Japan PC games top sales charts.
• NPD does not track digital distribution, which generates about 3.8 bn in revenue in 2006 (that's about half of all console game sales in 2006).

Thank you for posting these statistics. They prove what I have been saying all along. Game sales on consoles are greater then on PC and in places like Japan it's even a bigger difference then the US.

does it make you feel happy that 9 different platforms combined beat out the PC?

Well it completely proves my point. People prefer consoles to PC for gaming and everyone owns a PC... most just don't play many games on it.

lol.....if your point is that 9 different platforms combined beat out the PC....then that pretty much goes to show how powerull PC gaming really is.

[QUOTE="Olidsc"]

Didn't TFC do the whole "grenade on a separate button" thing like...2 years before halo did?

DethZero

Yea. Team Fortress Classic actually had TWO granade buttons. A Primary and a Secondary hehe

Counter strike, a 10 year old game, had seprate buttons for smoke grenades, flashbangs and fragmentation grenades. I'm sure plenty of other shooters had that too.

Well it completely proves my point. People prefer consoles to PC for gaming and everyone owns a PC... most just don't play many games on it.

CowboyR0y

No, it only proves your point if we ONLY look at US retail sales, excluding worldwide figures and figures from digital distribution.

Looking at the big picture, the PC sells far, far more. Don't try to argue it away.

AND WHAT ARE THOSE 12 PS2 GAMES THAT SOLD MORE THAN ANY PC GAME?

Secondly, I will repeat my question: "So, console "rule" PC's due to your incompetence?"

What you smoking? I may not be a tech guy. But I have been using windows for 10+ years. I use MS office, publisher,Adobe Acrobat, built and mantain my website, spam email..ect.ect..have also wasted hours on countless MMO's. So it is not my incompetence. FYI I prefer the PC over consoles.I am just stating a fact. If I have issues as long as I have been using PC's its no wonder people prefer playing on a console. I have yet to get Vista but maybe Vista can finaly fix these issues with lic. thru games for windows.

beachbob1

no, you are incompetent....you expected a 7300, a non-gaming card, to play modern games?

Actually, PC gaming has higher revenues worldwide. Outside of the US/Japan, PC gaming is much more popular then consoles.

Not higher revenues, but more players thanks to Korea.

Uh, Korea plus Europe, Middle East, China, South Asia...

Secondly, I will repeat my question: "So, console "rule" PC's due to your incompetence?"

You don't really need to know much to enjoy a console, that's why they're more popualr for gaming. Its not incompetence, just ignorance, and the want for convinience.

You don't have a friend who will do it for you? or just go to Dell.com

The console versions score better because of lower standards.

The ultimate excuse, consoles games are actually held to much higher standards since they actually have something to compete against, other console games. While PC gaes only have older games to compare to.

Yes. The PC does have higher standards. Look at all the cross platform releases, the largest percentage of them are better on the PC, even though they both get the same score on GS. Bioshock and Orange Box being the first example. Heck, Orange Box on the 360 is limited to 16 players, has no custom maps, is buggy / laggy, has worse graphics. Seriously, how can something that does everything a console can, but more, have lower standards? If you didn't realize, while you have your PS3 vs 360 debates -- we have competition too -- ATI vs Nvidia??? Intel vs AMD?? Heck, even MSI vs ASUS!

Than what? And did you see the video of the nuke going off in Crysis? Fully. Destructible.

Now read the Dev's notes. Not fully destructible. Games would be so much cooler if they were exactly like their videos.

Every object in the game is destructable, bar a few. However, that is completely due to not ruining the gameplay versus any kind of limitation due to the PC. I am assuming you are refering to some very specific undestructable items - like the submarine, or concrete bunkers.

By how much? A fraction of a second? That doesn't even cover the awkward control scheme consoles use compared to the PC. Console FPS still move slower.

Goldeneye, PD, Halo, all examples of FPS's don e right on consoles, better than the PC FPS too. Their controls ar enot awkward, if fact they are better than the old and tired M/KB. Though still not as precise for sniping.

Yes, those are good games. However, they are nothing compared to PC FPSs, as console FPSs have always lagged behind the level of PC FPSs. Name one console game that did something that a PC game has not.

Are you serious? Name one game that has better physics or AI then Crysis? Please, entertain me.

Halo's, Half Life's, FEAR, most other PC FPS's. Elebits for the physics part.

Wow. You are basing this on what? I suggest you do some reading. HL2 and FEARs physics and AI make up only a SUBSET of Crysis's.

As for those PC reviews, you should read were the PC port actually seems like a port now that the Dev's focused so much on the console versions nowadays.

We have our own devs smart guy.

wok7

I'm done with you after these replies. You clealry are another one of those console kids who is trying so hard to convince himself that PCs are dead, when in fact, they arn't and are already producing things that you will not be able to exeriance until the XBox 3 / PS4.

[QUOTE="beachbob1"]

Secondly, I will repeat my question: "So, console "rule" PC's due to your incompetence?"

What you smoking? I may not be a tech guy. But I have been using windows for 10+ years. I use MS office, publisher,Adobe Acrobat, built and mantain my website, spam email..ect.ect..have also wasted hours on countless MMO's. So it is not my incompetence. FYI I prefer the PC over consoles.I am just stating a fact. If I have issues as long as I have been using PC's its no wonder people prefer playing on a console. I have yet to get Vista but maybe Vista can finaly fix these issues with lic. thru games for windows.

cobrax25

no, you are incompetent....you expected a 7300, a non-gaming card, to play modern games?

You have no clue? These games don't require a better card then I have so what are you talking about?

[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="beachbob1"]

Secondly, I will repeat my question: "So, console "rule" PC's due to your incompetence?"

What you smoking? I may not be a tech guy. But I have been using windows for 10+ years. I use MS office, publisher,Adobe Acrobat, built and mantain my website, spam email..ect.ect..have also wasted hours on countless MMO's. So it is not my incompetence. FYI I prefer the PC over consoles.I am just stating a fact. If I have issues as long as I have been using PC's its no wonder people prefer playing on a console. I have yet to get Vista but maybe Vista can finaly fix these issues with lic. thru games for windows.

beachbob1

no, you are incompetent....you expected a 7300, a non-gaming card, to play modern games?

You have no clue? These games don't require a better card then I have so what are you talking about?

except they do...what you have is bassiclly the next step after a onboard card...what you have is made for people who want to watch movies...not play games.

[QUOTE="CowboyR0y"]

Well it completely proves my point. People prefer consoles to PC for gaming and everyone owns a PC... most just don't play many games on it.

Danm_999

No, it only proves your point if we ONLY look at US retail sales, excluding worldwide figures and figures from digital distribution.

Looking at the big picture, the PC sells far, far more. Don't try to argue it away.

AND WHAT ARE THOSE 12 PS2 GAMES THAT SOLD MORE THAN ANY PC GAME?

I was exagerating about the PS2 games but besides WOW and the Sims (if you could call these two games) there are many that have sold more then any PC game. Also someone provided a link with US sales that proved console sales were great by a large margin (970 million vs 6.4 billion) if anyone wants to post a link showing PC is superior worldwide be my guest but I'm not going to take your word for it because I know PC game sales are not huge in at least one of the biggest markets - Japan.

Man, someone please quote me, so that I can bring this up 4 years from now when the PS4 / Xbox 3 come out:

I can't wait when console kids start saying: "Oh em gee, teh Ps4 lets you buy games online and download it directly to your harddrive! you don't evan have to go to da store!!111!!1"

[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="CowboyR0y"]

Well it completely proves my point. People prefer consoles to PC for gaming and everyone owns a PC... most just don't play many games on it.

CowboyR0y

No, it only proves your point if we ONLY look at US retail sales, excluding worldwide figures and figures from digital distribution.

Looking at the big picture, the PC sells far, far more. Don't try to argue it away.

AND WHAT ARE THOSE 12 PS2 GAMES THAT SOLD MORE THAN ANY PC GAME?

I was exagerating about the PS2 games but besides WOW and the Sims (if you could call these two games) there are many that have sold more then any PC game. Also someone provided a link with US sales that proved console sales were great by a large margin (970 million vs 6.4 billion) if anyone wants to post a link showing PC is superior worldwide be my guest but I'm not going to take your word for it because I know PC game sales are not huge in at least one of the biggest markets - Japan.

except the japanese market isnt big.....its tiny compared to the european one....

My, my my. You truly are desperate, you need a 9 to 1 advantage. Did you read the article? The PC sells better than any console. There is no reason to combine consoles, as you cannot play a Wii game on the PS3, nor a DS game on the 360.

All those 9 consoles combined cost less than a Gaming PC, not to mention much easier to use.

But you can play any PC game on any modern PC.

But to play properly you have to have the expensive hardware, whereas every console always plays their games well.

Oh, and I'm still waiting on those 12 PS2 games that have sold more than any PC game.

I'd try but there too many, but think Final Fantasies and the Platformers like Ratchet. Mentioning the EA sports games would be overkill.

And lol, if PC sold more games, there wouldn't be such concern to defeat piracy.

[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="CowboyR0y"]

Well it completely proves my point. People prefer consoles to PC for gaming and everyone owns a PC... most just don't play many games on it.

CowboyR0y

No, it only proves your point if we ONLY look at US retail sales, excluding worldwide figures and figures from digital distribution.

Looking at the big picture, the PC sells far, far more. Don't try to argue it away.

AND WHAT ARE THOSE 12 PS2 GAMES THAT SOLD MORE THAN ANY PC GAME?

I was exagerating about the PS2 games but besides WOW and the Sims (if you could call these two games) there are many that have sold more then any PC game. Also someone provided a link with US sales that proved console sales were great by a large margin (970 million vs 6.4 billion) if anyone wants to post a link showing PC is superior worldwide be my guest but I'm not going to take your word for it because I know PC game sales are not huge in at least one of the biggest markets - Japan.

That is console sales world wide vrs PC sales US only and not including online sales, which totaled half of all console sales combined.

I was exagerating about the PS2 gamesCowboyR0y

Yes, you were. But I give you credit for admitting that, your better than Wok.

but besides WOW and the Sims (if you could call these two games) there are many that have sold more then any PC game. CowboyR0y

Why wouldn't you? They are games, and they both have more content than most console games (WoW more than any console game).

And your forgetting other games like Half Life and Starcraft, which have sold just as much.

Also someone provided a link with US sales that proved console sales were great by a large margin (970 million vs 6.4 billion) if anyone wants to post a link showing PC is superior worldwide be my guest but I'm not going to take your word for it because I know PC game sales are not huge in at least one of the biggest markets - Japan.

CowboyR0y

There isn't a huge PC prescense in Japan. No one ever claimed that. But Japan is an insignificant if its set alongside all of Europe, the rest of Asia and Australasia.

And I already gave you the link for the PC vs. console NPD comparison. The figures are all there.

Wrong. Heres how Nividia describes this card.

NVIDIA® GeForce® 7300 graphics processing units (GPUs) allow you to experience the latest gaming effects without compromising performance. Boasting the 3D graphics features of today's most advanced GPUs-including full support for Microsoft® DirectX® 9.0 Shader Model 3.0 and true high dynamic-range (HDR) lighting-GeForce 7300 GPUs also bring stunning, high definition video and superb picture clarity with minimal CPU usage with NVIDIA® PureVideoTM technology. For the performance and features you need to play the latest games and enjoy home-theater quality video, make sure your PC is equipped with a GeForce 7300 GPU.

Your claim that its my card's fualthas no substance at all. Most these games are built to be played with a onboard card also by the way.

My, my my. You truly are desperate, you need a 9 to 1 advantage. Did you read the article? The PC sells better than any console. There is no reason to combine consoles, as you cannot play a Wii game on the PS3, nor a DS game on the 360.

All those 9 consoles combined cost less than a Gaming PC, not to mention much easier to use.wok7

A DS, PSP, Wii, 360, PS3, PS2, Xbox, GBA and GameCube are more expensive than a gaming PC.

But you can play any PC game on any modern PC.

But to play properly you have to have the expensive hardware, whereas every console always plays their games well.wok7

For about $1000. Oh, and if we have to demand maximum, you'll need a HDTV for all those consoles. The price for the consoles soars higher.

Oh, and I'm still waiting on those 12 PS2 games that have sold more than any PC game.

I'd try but there too many, but think Final Fantasies and the Platformers like Ratchet. Mentioning the EA sports games would be overkill.

And lol, if PC sold more games, there wouldn't be such concern to defeat piracy.

wok7

Nope, nope nope.

FFX = 6.6 mill

Ratchet and Clank (the best selling one) = 2.5 mill

Madden NFL 05 (the best selling EA sport game on PS2) = 3.5 million.

PC has the Sims, the Sims 2, WoW, Starcraft, Half Life 1 & 2, Myst, Roller Coaster Tycoon, Diablo 2, Guild Wars, Populous, Cossacks and Frogger ahead of those.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_selling_video_games#PlayStation_2

but consoles as of today are dominating with CURRENT exclusive titles. unknowndrk

Lol. No they aren't.

http://au.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25781167

My, my my. You truly are desperate, you need a 9 to 1 advantage. Did you read the article? The PC sells better than any console. There is no reason to combine consoles, as you cannot play a Wii game on the PS3, nor a DS game on the 360.

All those 9 consoles combined cost less than a Gaming PC, not to mention much easier to use.

But you can play any PC game on any modern PC.

But to play properly you have to have the expensive hardware, whereas every console always plays their games well.

Oh, and I'm still waiting on those 12 PS2 games that have sold more than any PC game.

I'd try but there too many, but think Final Fantasies and the Platformers like Ratchet. Mentioning the EA sports games would be overkill.

And lol, if PC sold more games, there wouldn't be such concern to defeat piracy.

wok7

Seriously... I thought you couldn't get any moreignorant.

Sorry, but like I've said, PC isn't better than the consoles anymore. If it bugs you so much, upgrade to a time machine and go live in the 90's again.

wok7

I have a hard time taking this statement seriously. Can your console hold 4 graphics cards, 2 quad core processors, and 8 gigs of RAM? The answer is no, it can't. And don't give me the cost bull****, when it comes down to it, PC > consoles in usability, performance, graphics, and power. And in case you haven't noticed, consoles are nothing more than lame PC's. Back in the day it was cartridges, memory cards, and multiplayer meant 2 people on the same system. Now it's DVD's and Blu Ray, hard drives, internet services to connect and allow people to play together. It's time to put the fanboyism aside. I have a 360, and I love it. It has good games, a good internet service, great graphics, but I would take my PC over it anyday.

If you let yourself get ripped off and buy a computer with a crappy graphics card and RAM then of course you're not gonna run any games. Prettymuch the only way to make a good gaming computer for a good price if make it yourself..... not hard at all either if you just research parts.

Only thing consoles "rule" is the demographic completely ignorant of electronic hardware...... which is sadly most everyone. Prettymuch the main reason PC gaming is losing mainstream popularity is manufacturers putting crappy GPUs in every store bought PC.

Wrong. Heres how Nividia describes this card.

NVIDIA® GeForce® 7300 graphics processing units (GPUs) allow you to experience the latest gaming effects without compromising performance. Boasting the 3D graphics features of today's most advanced GPUs-including full support for Microsoft® DirectX® 9.0 Shader Model 3.0 and true high dynamic-range (HDR) lighting-GeForce 7300 GPUs also bring stunning, high definition video and superb picture clarity with minimal CPU usage with NVIDIA® PureVideoTM technology. For the performance and features you need to play the latest games and enjoy home-theater quality video, make sure your PC is equipped with a GeForce 7300 GPU.

Your claim that its my card's fualthas no substance at all. Most these games are built to be played with a onboard card also by the way.

beachbob1

Wrong. Heres how Nividia describes this card.

NVIDIA® GeForce® 7300 graphics processing units (GPUs) allow you to experience the latest gaming effects without compromising performance. Boasting the 3D graphics features of today's most advanced GPUs-including full support for Microsoft® DirectX® 9.0 Shader Model 3.0 and true high dynamic-range (HDR) lighting-GeForce 7300 GPUs also bring stunning, high definition video and superb picture clarity with minimal CPU usage with NVIDIA® PureVideoTM technology. For the performance and features you need to play the latest games and enjoy home-theater quality video, make sure your PC is equipped with a GeForce 7300 GPU.

Your claim that its my card's fualthas no substance at all. Most these games are built to be played with a onboard card also by the way.

beachbob1

It's the advertisement from the manufacturer. Of course their going to spin it. Any expert can tell you that the 7300 isn't a strong gaming card though.

[QUOTE="wok7"]

Sorry, but like I've said, PC isn't better than the consoles anymore. If it bugs you so much, upgrade to a time machine and go live in the 90's again.

-Manntis-

I have a hard time taking this statement seriously. Can your console hold 4 graphics cards, 2 quad core processors, and 8 gigs of RAM? The answer is no, it can't. And don't give me the cost bull****, when it comes down to it, PC > consoles in usability, performance, graphics, and power. And in case you haven't noticed, consoles are nothing more than lame PC's. Back in the day it was cartridges, memory cards, and multiplayer meant 2 people on the same system. Now it's DVD's and Blu Ray, hard drives, internet services to connect and allow people to play together. It's time to put the fanboyism aside. I have a 360, and I love it. It has good games, a good internet service, great graphics, but I would take my PC over it anyday.

Post your PC specs.skrat_01

Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.070227-2254)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: HP Pavilion 061
System Model: EX332AA-ABA m7580n
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4600+, MMX, 3DNow (2 CPUs), ~2.4GHz
Memory: 2046MB RAM
Page File: 619MB used, 3318MB available
Windows Dir: C:WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)

Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 7300 LE
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 7300 LE
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: EnumPCIVEN_10DE&DEV_01D1&SUBSYS_03461043&REV_A1
Display Memory: 256.0 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: HP f1905 flat panel monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1280,1024
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.8391 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 2/14/2006 00:05:00, 3960064 bytes

[QUOTE="Olidsc"]

Didn't TFC do the whole "grenade on a separate button" thing like...2 years before halo did?

DethZero

Yea. Team Fortress Classic actually had TWO granade buttons. A Primary and a Secondary hehe

[QUOTE="unknowndrk"]but consoles as of today are dominating with CURRENT exclusive titles. Danm_999

Lol. No they aren't.

http://au.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25781167

lol @ Using another part of Gamespot. But yes, Current Console exclusives pwn the hell outta PC ones. Thats why consoles are more popular than ever. Why PC Ports are scoring lower. Its why PC has been reduced to MMO/RTS/FPS. may be hard to swallow for you, but for everyone esle, its cool.

mmmmm quad core processors :P sorry i had a moment.Unforgiven2870

PC freaks and their hardware fetishes :P

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Post your PC specs.beachbob1

Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.070227-2254)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: HP Pavilion 061
System Model: EX332AA-ABA m7580n
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4600+, MMX, 3DNow (2 CPUs), ~2.4GHz
Memory: 2046MB RAM
Page File: 619MB used, 3318MB available
Windows Dir: C:WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)

Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 7300 LE
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 7300 LE
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: EnumPCIVEN_10DE&DEV_01D1&SUBSYS_03461043&REV_A1
Display Memory: 256.0 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: HP f1905 flat panel monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1280,1024
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.8391 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 2/14/2006 00:05:00, 3960064 bytes

Seriously if you are going to play games that is a huge no-no.
What is your PC a word and web box?

Your CPU is fair, you have a nice sum of ram, but the 7300 LE... Ugh. No wonder.....

[QUOTE="Danm_999"]

[QUOTE="unknowndrk"]but consoles as of today are dominating with CURRENT exclusive titles. wok7

Lol. No they aren't.

http://au.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25781167

lol @ Using another part of Gamespot. But yes, Current Console exclusives pwn the hell outta PC ones. Thats why consoles are more popular than ever. Why PC Ports are scoring lower. Its why PC has been reduced to MMO/RTS/FPS. may be hard to swallow for you, but for everyone esle, its cool.

That isnt another part of gamespot, its the gamespot website hosted on austrailian servers so austrailians dont have to struggle with long load times.

The ignorance of some people... :roll:

why do PC gamers bring up games that are like 10 years old as exclusives? What does the PC offer today that the consoles dont have? Whats there to say? unknowndrk