Why did MS think future of gaming was multimedia?

Sega started that with the CD systems not sony,not only the Saturn beat the PS1 in release date,and play music but also the Sega CD add on also played music Cd's...

So once again your wrong,and the PS1 and PS2 multi media capabilities in nothing changed the fact that both were the best place to play games on,in both of its generations,no other console had as many games.

The problem with MS was how they sold the xbox one rather than been a multi media hub,which the 360 also was and the PS3 and also PS4 are.

Is call rental and video clubs have been doing it since the 80's buffoon,or did you own a game you rented for $3 or 4 dollars on Bloockbuster..?

How much was renting a single game in blockbuster for a single month.? $30 $40 oh wait you had to return the game at the 3rd day because if not they would charge you a late fee of $3 or $4 daily.

PSN now is a renting service much like gamefly which charge people $22 dollars for any 2 games per month at any time,and is nice not every one has tons of cash to buy 30 or 40 games per year,renting is one option that is cheaper and in the end effective since there is a truck load of games which are not own wordy,and you be better off playing them rented.

Where were you when MS was charging people for Netflix last gen,and on the start of this gen to now that is some hardcore rip off,charge people for things every one gets free,Explorer,HBO Go,hulu,skype...hahaha

But i guess rip off are just a matter of opinion right...

Most people want simplicity, hence the name XBox One.

I think one of the things that kept MS from fulfilling the promise was that the XB1 still required a cable box. If they could have figured out a way to plug directly into the XB1 and not need a cable box, that would have went a long way.

Because gamers would buy it for games and non-gamers for movies and stuff. More universal appeal = more sales.

They wanted to control the industrywith used gamames and get a cut of all sales.Well the people spoke up and MS got knocked the **** out at E3 and had to shit can their whole vision of the console.

BUT... Sony popularized the concept and I'm damn sure that's what Adobe was referring too.

Sony popularized it because the Sega CD,3DO,CDI,Saturn and several other failed in their effort,sony wasn't the one who first took a shot at multimedia and is documented by the time the PS1 came out several other platforms had music CD compatibility and were in fact multi media.

Now if you tell me sony was the first to push movies yes i give you that,and that didn't stop the PS2 from been the best console ever release on this earth when it came to games..

Truth is they wanted to see if they could screw up worse than windows 8. They did.

I know why it popularized. It doesn't change the point that through that popularization, Sony brought multimedia editions to consoles, when SEGA, Phillips, and Panasonic failed at it. Same way that when Nintendo brought analog sticks and four players out of the box (the latter of which Sony failed to adapt with the PS2) with the N64, even if those things already existed before but never got the right amount of attention then.

They will retroactively pull out Sony out of anything multimedia-related. What fanboys.

Yes it does sony wasn't the first or the one who started it period,is not sony's fault that every one else failed.

Nintendo didn't bring those things Nintendo uses things already out,no matter what you can't claim Nintendo did because Nintendo sold more units,the same shit is say about Halo when FPS were just as popular before Halo and Golden eye proved that.

So no again Sony wasn't period and his argument wasn't who make popular what is who did what.

If you claim sony introduced multi media functions you better back it up,because if i am able to name out or air 4 different platforms that do multi media before the PS1 was even out you have no argument what so ever.

So cainetao has no argument and popularizing something doesn't mean you bring it or invent it..

Up next we talk about how Sony will be adding all new multimedia and streaming partners and how sheens believe this is a good thing and its great that sony was always about the multimedia.

lol I laughed my ass off last generation when the 360 got Netflix and sheens moo'd and complained talking about how no games *even though at that time the 360 DESTROYED the ps3 in games* these same sheens were the first replies of I signed up when the first ps3 Netflix disc program thread was posted here.

lolololol Oh sheens.

Dafuq is a sheen? You are so bitter.

@tormentos: my god, every time with you. theres no need for insults. I know exactly what the service is now. Nothing says a company wont try to evolve it in the future. That's why I said "may be the future". Secondly wtf does the ms paywall have to do with what TC has asked?

@tormentos:

"So cainetao has no argument and popularizing something doesn't mean you bring it or invent it"

WTF am I being brought into here?

Actually the sega saturn came first with the ability to play cd's, the ps1 followed on from that.

I agree this will be MS's last console. It will be Sony's last console as well. Both companies will embrace games as a service and gaming will be done thru a browser.

and the strongest console is about the same strength as weak/mid range GPU.

correction gpu and vram upgrade

It's Mattrick's doing. Everything Xbox went downhill when that guy took over (I'm convinced PS3 would never have caught up to X360 had it not been for him) and I'm glad to see him gone. But it really, really sucks that it couldn't have happened prior to the creation of X1. His idiotic policy decisions have been reversed but nothing can be done about the poor hardware design he left behind.

A 40-50% difference in GPU power is more than marginal imo. It ain't a generation apart but not inconsequential either. But yeah, PS4 is no beast. It's just better than X1. Both machines are not what they could and should have been. I ain't saying they should be up there with high-end gaming PCs, that's impractical. But the chips in them should match up with mid-level gaming PCs of late 2013 better than they do.

No apparently you don't by the comments you make..

Because flaming sony for having a rental service is a joke when MS milk you people dry with live and even make you pay apps like netflix..

And you were one of those defending MS crappy policies like hiding netflix under a pay wall and hulu to,funny enough when the PS3 got the app it was superior of the xbox 360 version and free of pay walls,maybe you forgot the many arguments you had defending the rip off that was xbox live...

The PS3 was even more multi media center than the xbox 360,but it was sold as a console not as a Tv Tv TV with COD like MS did on may 2013.

The CDI,sega CD and 3DO all 3 beat the saturn as well,but yeah your point is right it wasn't the PS1..

Because it is? how many here have complained that the Wii U could not be used as a blu-ray player?

Consoles have been gone for a long time, it is only stubberness that keeps the Word around, I might argue that last gen were the first multimedia machines masquerading as consoles, They were made to Work with multi media entertainment for different reasonings I think. But this gen there is Little hiding that they are inded multimedia machines.

MS were just the one who revealed the machine as a multimedia unit, while Sony having most of the same functionality just focused on the games.

One dedicated piece of hardware for one use, is a dead concept, it will not Work with most households, and is fairly useless for the masses. It is simply a harder sell.

Touting it as a multimedia box allows for a broader range of potential buyers, which is smart. Broader appeal is always the way to go.

I would argue that it was not even the multimedia machine part that was the issue, but the locking of games to the console that caused the outcry. That I can agree with, anyone being butthurt that it was a multimedia machine? well the PS4 is too shocker eh? Too many Gamers have the perception of a blind dead man, and can not see anything logically. How many here ended up using thier PS3s more as a Blu ray player? or Netflix app launch platform? Yeah, it was around that time wher ethe term console truely died. And the boxes evolved.

However another reason is likely original programming, Sony has a huge potential venue for movies and music they can (and will try to) sell on it, so for them it is as obvious as breathing.

Added to that the notion of being the centre of the livingroom, a somewhat outdated pov, that alot of higher ups at those corps still think relavant. This golden goal that perhaps in the 90-early-00 would almost mean that you had near complete control over the household cravings, and Thus a huge income. This point is not really relavent anymore though, although we still hear it alot.

@tormentos: No, fella I flame you guys. The people that will do and say anything for Sony. Only problem with Sony is they wont stand up to the Japanese gov't and join the fight to conserve whales and dolphins but that isn't gaming related.

Reread my posts in this thread. I never flamed Sony, but you are like something I have never encountered before. You really are in love with that company aren't you? Its sort of sad. You run to their defense even when they haven't been attacked, just mentioned.

As for MS charging me for Netflix, they don't. If you want to live in the past everyone here can do it too, and Sony's track record isn't all white knight lover boy.