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#1 -D3MO-
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PS3 million sellers - 2

Resistance, Motorstorm

both 1st party

most 3rd party games never broke 250,000 sales

360 million sellers - 29

Many 1st party, a lot of 3rd party games

Sure the 360 has been out 1 year longer....but even still 29 v. 2...that's pathetic on Sony's part.

And Sony only has maybe 10-12 games next year (their killer apps) that may break 1 million sales....

wow...why do developers even bother creating games for the PS3 anymore?

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#2 Swift_Boss_A
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Do we really need to end 07 with more fanboy threads :|
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#3 thepwninator
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Weren't you once a cow?

Anyways, I think the reasons they are still bothering with Sony are as follows: $$$ from Sony for exclusivity and hopes that exclusivity will create more hype, hopefully creating more sales.

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#4 Nike_Air
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Where are you getting your info ?

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#5 -D3MO-
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Do we really need to end 07 with more fanboy threads :|Swift_Boss_A

this is SPA....SYSTEM WARS

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#6 -D3MO-
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Weren't you once a cow?

Anyways, I think the reasons they are still bothering with Sony are as follows: $$$ from Sony for exclusivity and hopes that exclusivity will create more hype, hopefully creating more sales.

thepwninator

common misconception...I am a manticore...but hate all 3 :D

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#7 heyheyhey123412
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i guess with the success of the ps2, sony and the developers aren't accepting the fact the the ps3 is even nearly as successful.
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#8 Udsen
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[QUOTE="thepwninator"]

Weren't you once a cow?

Anyways, I think the reasons they are still bothering with Sony are as follows: $$$ from Sony for exclusivity and hopes that exclusivity will create more hype, hopefully creating more sales.

-D3MO-

common misconception...I am a manticore...but hate all 3 :D

That doesn't make you a manticore.

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#9 Cristallis
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Assassin's Creed and CoD4 broke a million sold, didn't they?
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#10 Heil68
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They see the potential in the platform
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#11 jessie5788
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why do lems deal with m$ Bs. (crap hardware, charging for things that should be free, etc) the world will never know.
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#12 flashattackfina
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They see the potential in the platform Heil68
winner/ Thread
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#13 stereointegrity
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Where are you getting your info ?

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same thing id like to kno...*waits for vgchartz link*
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#14 deactivated-5de2fb6a3a711
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Assassin's Creed and CoD4 broke a million sold, didn't they?Cristallis

the PS3 versions most likely didn't, but when you put the sales on all consoles together, then yeah I think so.

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#15 mastamo
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This is a fail thread. Nice try fanboy
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#16 haze_blaze
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yes, they have broke a million as well. madden should be close to a million or more also after Christmas sales. anyway, devs are sticking with the ps3 b/c some of the ratio's are actually better on the ps3 than on the 360 (units sold/userbase)... the 360 titles sale more simply b/c it's userbase is currently larger.
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#17 -TheSecondSign-
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Because they're the company that has a 100 million unit track run for two console generations and the only company that was capable of penetrating Nintendo's lock on the handheld market.

Sony may not always win, but they control a good amount of the gaming industry.

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#18 mariokart64fan
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ya and red steel for the wii sold over a million and so does all first party titles as a matter of fact i think manhunt 2 sold pretty well and re4 wii edition as well as moh h2 and i aint gonna bring 360 into it bc thatll make matters worst for sony even with a price and value cut sony cant catch nintendo or microsoft and why i said value is bc that is what sony did,, they made a 40 gb ps2 less ps3 and 2 less usb ports and no flash media bay
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#19 skirlnik
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Because they have longer memories and forethought than you do.

/thread (I just wanted to say that)

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#20 mariokart64fan
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and no they didnt penetrate nintendos lock on the handheld market gba sold over 85 million units and still is goin strong and ds sold over 30-50 million units and continues to out sell everything else taking the wii with it , sony was all luck 2 gens ,, i really cant say what the best ps game is because most never can out perform goldeneye 007 ,,, or perfect dark in fact goldeneye was top seller through out the generation , winning 1998 and 1999 game of the year awards

as for handhelds psp has done its best to try to penetrate nintendo but all those rehashes and ports doesnt help sony at all sony needs a steady stream of titles to catch ds off guard which wont happen any time soon

this gen im sticking with the best of the best the company that knows gaming and has been since nes ,,, /gb nintendo my side console will be the xbox 360 .... then ya know the ps3 ,,, nintendo may have made a few mistakes with the gc /64 but they brought us 5 big titles alltogether with other killer aps to .. they are

1997- goldeneye 007

1998-zelda ocrina of time

2000 perfect dark 64

2003 zelda wind waker nintendo gamecube

2004 resident evil 4 the original and 2nd best now to the wii nintendo gamecube version

other good titles in between include n64/gc

super smash bros

doom64

duke nukem 64

zelda majoras mask

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marioparty 1

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and on the gamecube

eternal darkness

fzero gx

mariokart dd

marioparty 7

geist

metroid prime

lol you thought ps3 would do better then ps2 pft you already failed since day one ,,, igns done 2 graphical comparisions since launch and the xbox360 won both ,,, and in the sales race we know whos outselling who both in the handheld race and in the console race nintendo wil be the undisputed winner as they always changed everything from controllers to gameplay even 3d graphics ,,, what has sony done oh ya thats right absolutly nothing just flop in a new graphics card and a internet service psn what do you get ps1 with a few notable updates none to major

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#21 micky4889
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Assassin's Creed and CoD4 broke a million sold, didn't they?Cristallis
this is total bull there is around 5 or 6 games that sold over a million cod4,assassins creed,moter storm,res:fall of man,that ninja sigma game and theres another one as well but cant think of it of the top of my head so your thread = FAIL
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#22 LibertySaint
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the hope of making a fan base and getting money for it,,,,,yeap.
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[QUOTE="Cristallis"]Assassin's Creed and CoD4 broke a million sold, didn't they?micky4889
this is total bull there is around 5 or 6 games that sold over a million cod4,assassins creed,moter storm,res:fall of man,that ninja sigma game and theres another one as well but cant think of it of the top of my head so your thread = FAIL

Sigma did not sell 1M. But yes, there are more than two games that have sold a million on the ps3. The TC is just going off of old facts but I think his question was legitimate. The fact is that games such as AC sold a higher ratio per userbase on the PS3 than they did on the 360... though the actual number of units sold on the 360 was more. This shows developers that there is a significant amount of potential in making games for the ps3 as the userbase continues to grow.

Fact of the matter is that the PS3 has sold approximately the same number of units as the 360 at the same time last year... but with much faster gains in Europe, Japan, and Other markets. So in the next year, if NA sales continue to improve, the PS3 could earn even more attention from devs.

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#24 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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You and ChirstopehrM06 or whatever his name need to stop pretending to be lemmings :lol: your not fooling alot of people.
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#25 -D3MO-
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You and ChirstopehrM06 or whatever his name need to stop pretending to be lemmings :lol: your not fooling alot of people.Gh0st_Of_0nyx

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#26 caseypayne69
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PS3 million sellers - 2

Resistance, Motorstorm

both 1st party

most 3rd party games never broke 250,000 sales

360 million sellers - 29

Many 1st party, a lot of 3rd party games

Sure the 360 has been out 1 year longer....but even still 29 v. 2...that's pathetic on Sony's part.

And Sony only has maybe 10-12 games next year (their killer apps) that may break 1 million sales....

wow...why do developers even bother creating games for the PS3 anymore?

-D3MO-

Neither Resistance nor Motorstorm WERE 1st party. Motorstorm as of today is 1st party but not at the time of the games release.

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#27 Hexagon_777
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So shouldn't third-party developers be fearing the PS3 instead of the Wii? It seems that third-party developers will have a higher chance of selling their games on the Wii than the PS3.
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#28 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]You and ChirstopehrM06 or whatever his name need to stop pretending to be lemmings :lol: your not fooling alot of people.-D3MO-

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Your post befor this have been majority pro ps3 and i have seen you bash the 360 on numerous occasions. So I dont really belive this "ps3 is failure" routine your putting on right now :lol:
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#29 ICollegeStudent
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[QUOTE="-D3MO-"][QUOTE="thepwninator"]

Weren't you once a cow?

Anyways, I think the reasons they are still bothering with Sony are as follows: $$$ from Sony for exclusivity and hopes that exclusivity will create more hype, hopefully creating more sales.

Udsen

common misconception...I am a manticore...but hate all 3 :D

That doesn't make you a manticore.

im pretty sure he is a cow, i wonder what made him have a change of heart.
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[QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="Cristallis"]Assassin's Creed and CoD4 broke a million sold, didn't they?haze_blaze

this is total bull there is around 5 or 6 games that sold over a million cod4,assassins creed,moter storm,res:fall of man,that ninja sigma game and theres another one as well but cant think of it of the top of my head so your thread = FAIL

Sigma did not sell 1M. But yes, there are more than two games that have sold a million on the ps3. The TC is just going off of old facts but I think his question was legitimate. The fact is that games such as AC sold a higher ratio per userbase on the PS3 than they did on the 360... though the actual number of units sold on the 360 was more. This shows developers that there is a significant amount of potential in making games for the ps3 as the userbase continues to grow.

Fact of the matter is that the PS3 has sold approximately the same number of units as the 360 at the same time last year... but with much faster gains in Europe, Japan, and Other markets. So in the next year, if NA sales continue to improve, the PS3 could earn even more attention from devs.

The higher ratio per userbase is most likely due to the fact that that PS3's library is small. With the smaller library, games like AC have a very good chance of selling well on the "ratio per userbase".

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PS3 million sellers - 2

Resistance, Motorstorm

both 1st party

most 3rd party games never broke 250,000 sales

360 million sellers - 29

Many 1st party, a lot of 3rd party games

Sure the 360 has been out 1 year longer....but even still 29 v. 2...that's pathetic on Sony's part.

And Sony only has maybe 10-12 games next year (their killer apps) that may break 1 million sales....

wow...why do developers even bother creating games for the PS3 anymore?

-D3MO-

The PS3 has around 4 maybe 5 million+ sellers. Motorstorm and Resistance for sure. Also COD4 and assassins creed. And maybe ninja gaiden sigma(maybe). last ihear it was at 0.5 million but that was like4 months ago

Hopefully ratchet, heavenly sword, and uncharted could get 1.0 million +. Its pretty sad actually. So many great games and no ps3 owners buying them. I think cows take reviews to seriously

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#32 Dreamable
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[QUOTE="Cristallis"]Assassin's Creed and CoD4 broke a million sold, didn't they?bulletsword

the PS3 versions most likely didn't, but when you put the sales on all consoles together, then yeah I think so.

Actually acording to VGCharts (Wether you feel they're trustworthy or not) Call Of Duty 4 has sold 1.33m (PS3) and 2.80m (XBOX360)

Assassins Creed has sold 1.35m (PS3) and 2.21m (XBO360)

Plus Motorstorm and Resistance have sold 2 million, so sales really aren't that bad ;)

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#33 -D3MO-
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[QUOTE="-D3MO-"]

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]You and ChirstopehrM06 or whatever his name need to stop pretending to be lemmings :lol: your not fooling alot of people.Gh0st_Of_0nyx

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Your post befor this have been majority pro ps3 and i have seen you bash the 360 on numerous occasions. So I dont really belive this "ps3 is failure" routine your putting on right now :lol:

wrong

about 20% of my posts are pro-sony, 20% pro-microsoft, 5% pro-nintendo, 25% console bashing (all of em), 30% off-topic :D

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#34 black_awpN1
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Because its still a valid competitor in this race and its a great piece of Hardware?
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#35 JiveT
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It seems there are probably 1 million PS3 owners who play games so the 3rd party developers see them as a good market.

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#36 dracula_16
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They think the PS3 is close to having strong software sales. That's why there are so many PS3 multiplats...now the devs are realising they were wrong in making a PS3 version of a multi plat because of weak software sales.
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#37 GanonBuRAP
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Give the PS3 another year, people will continue to buy games, and games that are in the 250k range will surpass 1million. 1 year is A LOT of time you know.
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#38 Miles0T0Prower
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yes, they have broke a million as well. madden should be close to a million or more also after Christmas sales. anyway, devs are sticking with the ps3 b/c some of the ratio's are actually better on the ps3 than on the 360 (units sold/userbase)... the 360 titles sale more simply b/c it's userbase is currently larger. haze_blaze
your kidding right the average number of games f games per ONE console on 360 is 6.75 while the PS3 is around 2. something
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#39 PStripleFTW
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Meh we already know PS3 might lose but PS4 will reign again and take cake.
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]You and ChirstopehrM06 or whatever his name need to stop pretending to be lemmings :lol: your not fooling alot of people.-D3MO-

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-DEMO- might be a PS3 guy but hes indeed acting like a Xbox 360 guys to persuade people into buying PS3 and Games. But meh, theres a lot here.

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#41 -Renegade
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Actually both CoD 4 and Assassin's Creed have broke 1 million sold on PS3.
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#42 AndYOU
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Because they want the $$$$, and Sony will give it to them. And also because Sony has proven itself, and has a great console out right now. Don't get me wrong though. It's not perfect, but neither is any other console this gen
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Because believe it or not most devs are not fanboys, and know more than we could ever wish to know abou the gaming market or the systems they develop for.
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#44 II_Seraphim_II
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Because they want the $$$$, and Sony will give it to them. And also because Sony has proven itself, and has a great console out right now. Don't get me wrong though. It's not perfect, but neither is any other console this genAndYOU

Because believe it or not most devs are not fanboys, and know more than we could ever wish to know abou the gaming market or the systems they develop for.Jynxzor

Logic....IN SYSTEM WARS!? WTF IS GOING ON HERE!??? :|

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#45 PMatt722
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They see the potential in the platform Heil68

lol

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#46 Jacobistheman
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PS3 million sellers - 2

Resistance, Motorstorm

both 1st party

most 3rd party games never broke 250,000 sales

360 million sellers - 29

Many 1st party, a lot of 3rd party games

Sure the 360 has been out 1 year longer....but even still 29 v. 2...that's pathetic on Sony's part.

And Sony only has maybe 10-12 games next year (their killer apps) that may break 1 million sales....

wow...why do developers even bother creating games for the PS3 anymore?

-D3MO-

lets compare that with the 360's first year. i think that gears was the only game to sell a million. thats half as much as the ps3

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#47 espoac
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Umm, because they're making money on PS3 games...They develop for the 360 and then port to PS3 which only costs 10% of the original development cost.
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and no they didnt penetrate nintendos lock on the handheld market gba sold over 85 million units and still is goin strong and ds sold over 30-50 million units and continues to out sell everything else taking the wii with it , sony was all luck 2 gens ,, i really cant say what the best ps game is because most never can out perform goldeneye 007 ,,, or perfect dark in fact goldeneye was top seller through out the generation , winning 1998 and 1999 game of the year awards

as for handhelds psp has done its best to try to penetrate nintendo but all those rehashes and ports doesnt help sony at all sony needs a steady stream of titles to catch ds off guard which wont happen any time soon

this gen im sticking with the best of the best the company that knows gaming and has been since nes ,,, /gb nintendo my side console will be the xbox 360 .... then ya know the ps3 ,,, nintendo may have made a few mistakes with the gc /64 but they brought us 5 big titles alltogether with other killer aps to .. they are

1997- goldeneye 007

1998-zelda ocrina of time

2000 perfect dark 64

2003 zelda wind waker nintendo gamecube

2004 resident evil 4 the original and 2nd best now to the wii nintendo gamecube version

other good titles in between include n64/gc

super smash bros

doom64

duke nukem 64

zelda majoras mask

turok

marioparty 1

mariokart 64

conker bfd

and on the gamecube

eternal darkness

fzero gx

mariokart dd

marioparty 7

geist

metroid prime

lol you thought ps3 would do better then ps2 pft you already failed since day one ,,, igns done 2 graphical comparisions since launch and the xbox360 won both ,,, and in the sales race we know whos outselling who both in the handheld race and in the console race nintendo wil be the undisputed winner as they always changed everything from controllers to gameplay even 3d graphics ,,, what has sony done oh ya thats right absolutly nothing just flop in a new graphics card and a internet service psn what do you get ps1 with a few notable updates none to major

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Part of that was meant for me.
I usually don't argue with people here, mostly because it's pointless and it's like talking to stubborn 14 year olds.

I said they penetrated the lock, which they did. They didn't win, but they did penetrate a previously impossible to breach market. Their handheld is the only one to successfully go against a Nintendo handheld and keep kicking. It's generated it's own fanbase and is still quite strong.

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#49 badboyblack
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wow...why do developers even bother creating games for the PS3 anymore?

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They dont. Most 3rd party developers are leaving the Sony camp & will be focusing on the DS, WII andXbox 360 wheregames are noticablyeasier to develop for & also where the devs are more likely to make back their money due to the far larger number of consoles sold.
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#50 jessie5788
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[QUOTE="-D3MO-"]

wow...why do developers even bother creating games for the PS3 anymore?

badboyblack

They dont. Most 3rd party developers are leaving the Sony camp & will be focusing on the DS, WII andXbox 360 wheregames are noticablyeasier to develop for & also where the devs are more likely to make back their money due to the far larger number of consoles sold.

link because it sounds like bs. the whole ps3 is hard to develop for is an old excuse. developers are starting to get use to the ps3. the games are improving.