Why do devs even bother with the PS3?

[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]PS3 has a bigger appeal in Japan and Europe than the 360(and a bigger userbase), so it has the potential to make more money.Sgt_Crow

Make that 'Japan only'.
In Europe, 360 is slightly more populair then the PS3.

Last time I checked Europe was called Sony Land for a reason. The price is the only thing holding it back.

[QUOTE="fiscope"]

Most devs are proffessionals, not whiny teenagers in their basement. If they can't figure out how to program for a console, and do it quickly and efficiently, they need to reconsider their choice of proffesions.

Blackbond

So Valve are a bunch of whiny teenagers in their basement who can't figure out to program for a console and do it quickly and efficently. Seeing that all of their employees should reconsider they choice of profeesion?

Valve could if they wanted to. They have a very small team, so they simply outsource their PS3 porting/development. So.. what was your point again?

[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]PS3 has a bigger appeal in Japan and Europe than the 360(and a bigger userbase), so it has the potential to make more money.Sgt_Crow

Make that 'Japan only'.
In the UK, 360 is slightly more populair then the PS3.

Corrected.

I'm curious to know if you think that Europe = UK. Some major outlets in Europe (outside UK) have actually removed the 360 console from their shelves, leaving only the 360 games.

[QUOTE="OsgoodSchlatter"][QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]

Take MGS4 for example. It looks nice but I"m pretty positive that the 360 can output the same visuals. Maybe even better.

Steppy_76

Care to provide an example?

Still waiting.

Still waiting.

Yeah I didn't think so.

Exactly. Plus did you notice the ugly environment textures in MGS4. I bet the 360 can do better.

Anyway, back to the topic, it's all about business. Most devs want their product on as many platforms. The more platforms that their product is on, the more money they can get. It's just business.

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="DaGamingGod"][QUOTE="MoldOnHold"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]I would guess that the answer is that there is money to be made on the system.DaGamingGod

TC, why not ask Hideo Kojima that question?

:lol: Well played!

Btw, After playings MGS4 I came to the conclusion that the 360 could probably produce the same visuals if not a tiny bit better. The game looks nice but it doesn't blow me away really. It's not as if they PS3 has a ton more power than the 360 anyways. Guess we'll only find out if MGS4 is ever released for the 360 which I doubt will happen.

First you say you think the game would have looked a bit better on the 360 then go and say the PS3 is a bit more powerful then the 360 :?

[QUOTE="MoldOnHold"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]I would guess that the answer is that there is money to be made on the system.DaGamingGod

TC, why not ask Hideo Kojima that question?

i don`t know why, but i just think that the best answer you could ever get in SW is already up there.

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

That money money, yeah yeah.

DaGamingGod

how do u know this are some sort of expert on this do u study economics ??????

[QUOTE="Sgt_Crow"][QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

PS3 has a bigger appeal in Japan and Europe than the 360(and a bigger userbase), so it has the potential to make more money.Uptown

Make that 'Japan only'.
In Europe, 360 is slightly more populair then the PS3.

How so? Just curious....If I recall theyre on pace for the same amount of units sold in EU....PS3 being out a year less...

False. The PS3 came out 16 months after the Xbox 360 in Europe and is still on par with the Xbox 360 in terms of units sold in Europe. Impressive.

[QUOTE="OsgoodSchlatter"][QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]

Take MGS4 for example. It looks nice but I"m pretty positive that the 360 can output the same visuals. Maybe even better.

Steppy_76

Care to provide an example?

Still waiting.

Still waiting.

Yeah I didn't think so.

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]

Don't get me wrong. I love my PS3 console but if you think about it, why would a non-first party developer bother spending a massive budget and a couple of years on creating a game that is only for the PS3 when they can spend less cash and less time creating the same game on the 360? It's not as if the PS3 can output visuals that the 360 can't. Take MGS4 for example. It looks nice but I"m pretty positive that the 360 can output the same visuals. Maybe even better. I'm guessing that down the line, development costs will be down and it won't take as much time to develop on the PS3 but then again, developing on the 360 will cost even less and take less time to create great games. What do you folks think?

Gamersince81

I dont see how you can say that maybe MGS4 could look better on the 360.

It wouldnt. It would be downgraded by alote. MGS4 isnt GEARS, Bioshock or Mass Effect.,, MGS4 is a complete graphical beast compared to those games. *Spoiler* I dont think the 360 can run act 3 chase scene or act 4 metal gear fight scene. MGS4 shows how much more powerful the PS3 is over the 360 from my comparisons of the two.

[QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]

Don't get me wrong. I love my PS3 console but if you think about it, why would a non-first party developer bother spending a massive budget and a couple of years on creating a game that is only for the PS3 when they can spend less cash and less time creating the same game on the 360? It's not as if the PS3 can output visuals that the 360 can't. Take MGS4 for example. It looks nice but I"m pretty positive that the 360 can output the same visuals. Maybe even better. I'm guessing that down the line, development costs will be down and it won't take as much time to develop on the PS3 but then again, developing on the 360 will cost even less and take less time to create great games. What do you folks think?

darthogre

I think you need to back up that statement.

Everything that I've read is the PROBLEM is not as big as you think when making 1st party titles for PS3 right now. How can you get so many great titles from Insomniac or even from Naughty Dog (uncharted was the best game I've played this gen)

The real issue is developers choose to try to port X360 code to the PS3 on multiplatform games.......it's one of the reasons why Sony has been trying to convince everyone to use PS3 as the lead console, this way it's much easier to port the game to X360.

This post is really funny considering you say "spend less cash and less time creating the same game on the 360".....you really need to back that up.

The TC is basically saying "I don't have a PS3 really, so I would like it if MGS4 was to be ported to the 360".

This thread is basically that.

megaton3k

[QUOTE="Steppy_76"][QUOTE="OsgoodSchlatter"][QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]

Take MGS4 for example. It looks nice but I"m pretty positive that the 360 can output the same visuals. Maybe even better.

ermacness

Care to provide an example?

Still waiting.

Still waiting.

Yeah I didn't think so.

W1NGMAN, when I typed that the 360 version would look a tiny bit better I meant that it would be improved on since it would obviously be in development after the PS3 version was released. Just like how Oblivion looked and ran better on the PS3 once the devs had more time to work on it.DaGamingGod

Well MGS4 isn't your typical game, it uses 35 gigs with 3 or 4 different installs on the HDD, I would expect a major downgrade if it ever got ported over to the 360.

Idk why devs bother wit the ps3 eithr but then again remeber Devs still made games for the GC last gen and that was doing as bad as the ps3isdoing now. :lol:Gh0st_Of_0nyx

the ps3 is outselling the 360 monthly, and has been doing so for a while... :?

you fail.

OCTOCAMO (if that's how it's spelled). That feature is one of the single most mindblowing technical feature i have ever seen in a video game, and i also believe that this feature alone, the 360 will have a difficult time pulling off

Cause they can do more stuff on ps3epic_pets

[QUOTE="DaGamingGod"]

Don't get me wrong. I love my PS3 console but if you think about it, why would a non-first party developer bother spending a massive budget and a couple of years on creating a game that is only for the PS3 when they can spend less cash and less time creating the same game on the 360? It's not as if the PS3 can output visuals that the 360 can't. Take MGS4 for example. It looks nice but I"m pretty positive that the 360 can output the same visuals. Maybe even better. I'm guessing that down the line, development costs will be down and it won't take as much time to develop on the PS3 but then again, developing on the 360 will cost even less and take less time to create great games. What do you folks think?

carljohnson3456

I dont see how you can say that maybe MGS4 could look better on the 360.

Because it can output better graphics.

1. a japanese dev who wanted a powerful console

2. a dev who wanted to make use of blu-ray

3. dev who favored the open structure of PSN to the rigidness of live

Don't get me wrong. I love my PS3 console but if you think about it, why would a non-first party developer bother spending a massive budget and a couple of years on creating a game that is only for the PS3 when they can spend less cash and less time creating the same game on the 360? It's not as if the PS3 can output visuals that the 360 can't. Take MGS4 for example. It looks nice but I"m pretty positive that the 360 can output the same visuals. Maybe even better. I'm guessing that down the line, development costs will be down and it won't take as much time to develop on the PS3 but then again, developing on the 360 will cost even less and take less time to create great games. What do you folks think?

DaGamingGod

I think someone is finally making a breakthrough to cow logic. Exactly! Why bother on the PS3 when it will go great on a 360? Point taken. Point taken indeed.