Why do games need voice chat? (in relation to SSBM)

First, I think I should clear up a few things before I start.

1) The only game I play online is MK:DS.

2) I have never played a Smash Bros game.

So then, I heard that SSBM is going to have online fighting. This is what people desired correct? It seems that it wont have any voice chat. This has caused a good amount of whining. So here is the question.

Why does it need voice chat?

You may use other games that have voice chat to prove the claim that it isNEEDED in SSBM. Please note the stress in NEEDED.

I look forward to the reasons :).

Its really not NEEDED in any games,though it does make most of the games if the community is good more enyojable a lot more!

Also cant imagine playing action games that require team work without voice chat!

Certain games, like R6: Vegas and GeoW rely on voice chat.

SSB doesn't really need it, but Nintendo should still make it available for future games.

SSBB is a very fast game once you master it, voice chat wouldnt be needed while playing , but it would make a nice addition before or after the fight.

I think voice chat is needed the most at FPS games.

with a bunch of mates it can lead to a better experience. having a laugh with them while kicking seven shades of crap out of em...good fun. yeah u can do it using a PC but its awkward and annoying. it would also be nice to be able to talk to the ppl ure playing with even if there not on the list. communication is a pretty big part of online play. without that...i may as well be playing against the CPU.

voice chat is also essential for more tactical games....u need to be able to coordinate with ure team to be effective.

the big prob with nintendo is more that there not providing any means of communicating on wii yet. the pre defined messages are pathetic to be honest and u cant use a keyboard (for practical and technical reasons). nintendo are just dragging their heels on this one and are behaving too much like nannys. cmon ninty...its a wireless headset....not exactly the invention of brand new tech here. a simple bluetooth headset would do the trick nicely. and stop with the stupid restrictions.

so far the only positives i have to say about the wii and DS online is that there free and there reliable (DS does have voice comms but its restricted to friends only....very poor imho). however i also get free and reliable gaming online on my PC and i can communicate to whoever i want, whenever i want, with whatever means i want to use.

ninty....get it sorted.

I don't know about SSBM but in other gameslike shooters voice chat is very useful

For example. On COD4 Beta, say there were 2 people in a house, 1 Was snipering upstairs and the other was downstairs. Now an enemy knifes the person downstairs, without voice chat you wouldn't be able to warn your team mate there is an enemy in the building!

No smack talk in SSB? I for one think it would have been an excellent feature.agentfred

No smack talk in SSB? I for one think it would have been an excellent feature.agentfred

And even send short messages during brawls!

These short messages are entered in advance, and you send them by taunting. There are four messages for the four directions on the + Control Pad: Up, down, left and right.

I think this is pretty genious and quite hilarious, and you will never get yelled at by 12yr olds.

I don't know about SSBM but in other gameslike shooters voice chat is very useful

For example. On COD4 Beta, say there were 2 people in a house, 1 Was snipering upstairs and the other was downstairs. Now an enemy knifes the person downstairs, without voice chat you wouldn't be able to warn your team mate there is an enemy in the building!

Jammy69

it lets you chat before you respawn? isnt that kinda ghastly?

voice chat adds to the experience. you can chat with team members to form stratigys and tell them what to do. in SSBB it prolly isnt a big deal but what is a big deal is no rankings. thoose 2 added together shows why nintendo has an inferrior online system compared to 360 and ps3Raider47

I think they dont have rankings in that particular mode for a pretty good reason

It shouldmassively cut down on the hacking to cheat and get better scores.

good luck trying too make a team strategy in Bwii with no headsetVendettaRed07

Personally I dislike voice chat, especially after getting to know the halo 2 fanbase online.......

....Listening to 13-20 year olds scream n*****, C***, and whatever else they think is edgy gets old fast, I just mute it, it makes it more enjoyable.

[QUOTE="Marka1700"]World of Warcarf is the most sucessful online game in the world and vioce chat is not part of the program.7CloudStrife7

Many many people use ventrilo and teamspeak to communicate to others when playing WoW, trust me, its definitly big when it comes to that game.

It's still not part of the program, you have to the trouble toaragne it externally and get eveyone else using it, nothing to stop you doing this for any game.

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]good luck trying too make a team strategy in Bwii with no headsetGraveRIP

It has keyboard suport. I dont know how well that will work but it should be there.

[QUOTE="Raider47"]voice chat adds to the experience. you can chat with team members to form stratigys and tell them what to do. in SSBB it prolly isnt a big deal but what is a big deal is no rankings. thoose 2 added together shows why nintendo has an inferrior online system compared to 360 and ps3laughingman42

I think they dont have rankings in that particular mode for a pretty good reason

It shouldmassively cut down on the hacking to cheat and get better scores.

is that a fact....but i guess since nintendos so trash they wouldnt be able to keep an eye on that and to ban plp that do hack like xbl dose manage to do because they have a superior online experience

[QUOTE="Jammy69"]

I don't know about SSBM but in other gameslike shooters voice chat is very useful

For example. On COD4 Beta, say there were 2 people in a house, 1 Was snipering upstairs and the other was downstairs. Now an enemy knifes the person downstairs, without voice chat you wouldn't be able to warn your team mate there is an enemy in the building!

redmetal86

it lets you chat before you respawn? isnt that kinda ghastly?

I think it does let you, someone quote me if i'm wrong

There's not really a wait when you respawn anyway, only if you choose to watch the kill cam but you can skip that

[QUOTE="Jammy69"]

I don't know about SSBM but in other gameslike shooters voice chat is very useful

For example. On COD4 Beta, say there were 2 people in a house, 1 Was snipering upstairs and the other was downstairs. Now an enemy knifes the person downstairs, without voice chat you wouldn't be able to warn your team mate there is an enemy in the building!

redmetal86

it lets you chat before you respawn? isnt that kinda ghastly?

[QUOTE="GraveRIP"][QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]good luck trying too make a team strategy in Bwii with no headsetlaughingman42

It has keyboard suport. I dont know how well that will work but it should be there.

[QUOTE="agentfred"]No smack talk in SSB? I for one think it would have been an excellent feature.laughingman42

And even send short messages during brawls!

These short messages are entered in advance, and you send them by taunting. There are four messages for the four directions on the + Control Pad: Up, down, left and right.

I think this is pretty genious and quite hilarious, and you will never get yelled at by 12yr olds.

But what about the spontaneous nature of smack talk? This system is hardly flexible enough to cover most of the situations that occur when playing SSB. If something unexpected happens, how could you possibly relay your feelings to your opponents?

Not to mention that the messages that you do send will have to be general, and won't be in response to anything specific that happens in the game you are playing.

[QUOTE="7CloudStrife7"]

[QUOTE="Marka1700"]World of Warcarf is the most sucessful online game in the world and vioce chat is not part of the program.Marka1700

Many many people use ventrilo and teamspeak to communicate to others when playing WoW, trust me, its definitly big when it comes to that game.

It's still not part of the program, you have to the trouble toaragne it externally and get eveyone else using it, nothing to stop you doing this for any game.

[QUOTE="laughingman42"]

[QUOTE="Raider47"]voice chat adds to the experience. you can chat with team members to form stratigys and tell them what to do. in SSBB it prolly isnt a big deal but what is a big deal is no rankings. thoose 2 added together shows why nintendo has an inferrior online system compared to 360 and ps3Raider47

I think they dont have rankings in that particular mode for a pretty good reason

It shouldmassively cut down on the hacking to cheat and get better scores.

is that a fact....but i guess since nintendos so trash they wouldnt be able to keep an eye on that and to ban plp that do hack like xbl dose manage to do because they have a superior online experience

Games don't need it but it adds to an online experience. Eventually Wii will have it and how could they have a 32 player shooter with no servers? The shortcomings will hopefully eventually be fixed by Ninty.meetroid8

They may eventually be fixed, but theirs a problem now, and theirs a problem with SSBB.

[QUOTE="meetroid8"]Games don't need it but it adds to an online experience. Eventually Wii will have it and how could they have a 32 player shooter with no servers? The shortcomings will hopefully eventually be fixed by Ninty.agentfred

They may eventually be fixed, but theirs a problem now, and theirs a problem with SSBB.

[QUOTE="meetroid8"]Games don't need it but it adds to an online experience. Eventually Wii will have it and how could they have a 32 player shooter with no servers? The shortcomings will hopefully eventually be fixed by Ninty.agentfred

They may eventually be fixed, but theirs a problem now, and theirs a problem with SSBB.

To you, there is. But to me, I really couldn't care less about chat.

[QUOTE="agentfred"]

[QUOTE="meetroid8"]Games don't need it but it adds to an online experience. Eventually Wii will have it and how could they have a 32 player shooter with no servers? The shortcomings will hopefully eventually be fixed by Ninty.GraveRIP

They may eventually be fixed, but theirs a problem now, and theirs a problem with SSBB.

So they say, on system wars. Honestly, most people here don't believe half the things they post. I was told that damage modeling was meaningless, and then told the exact opposite when it was announced for GT5. I was told that graphics don't matter, until a media source said that a wii game looked good. If voice chat was announced for SSBB tomorrow, the same people who said it doesn't matter would tell you its integral to online gaming, thank goodness SSBB has it.

[QUOTE="agentfred"]

[QUOTE="meetroid8"]Games don't need it but it adds to an online experience. Eventually Wii will have it and how could they have a 32 player shooter with no servers? The shortcomings will hopefully eventually be fixed by Ninty.marioraider

They may eventually be fixed, but theirs a problem now, and theirs a problem with SSBB.

To you, there is. But to me, I really couldn't care less about chat.

"I couldn't care less about damage modeling"

I've heard it all before.

It NEEDS voice chat to prove that Nintendo is actually going to do something with WiiConect24. What a stupid name. Maybe they should start with changing that.

[QUOTE="Raider47"][QUOTE="laughingman42"]

[QUOTE="Raider47"]voice chat adds to the experience. you can chat with team members to form stratigys and tell them what to do. in SSBB it prolly isnt a big deal but what is a big deal is no rankings. thoose 2 added together shows why nintendo has an inferrior online system compared to 360 and ps3GraveRIP

I think they dont have rankings in that particular mode for a pretty good reason

It shouldmassively cut down on the hacking to cheat and get better scores.

is that a fact....but i guess since nintendos so trash they wouldnt be able to keep an eye on that and to ban plp that do hack like xbl dose manage to do because they have a superior online experience

well i guess if u dont pay for it you don't get much at all. i personaly can spare 50 bucks a year and its totaly worth it because of the online is so good

[QUOTE="GraveRIP"][QUOTE="Raider47"][QUOTE="laughingman42"]

[QUOTE="Raider47"]voice chat adds to the experience. you can chat with team members to form stratigys and tell them what to do. in SSBB it prolly isnt a big deal but what is a big deal is no rankings. thoose 2 added together shows why nintendo has an inferrior online system compared to 360 and ps3Raider47

I think they dont have rankings in that particular mode for a pretty good reason

It shouldmassively cut down on the hacking to cheat and get better scores.

is that a fact....but i guess since nintendos so trash they wouldnt be able to keep an eye on that and to ban plp that do hack like xbl dose manage to do because they have a superior online experience

well i guess if u dont pay for it you don't get much at all. i personaly can spare 50 bucks a year and its totaly worth it because of the online is so good

You should be able to talk with other people, whats the point playing online without having someone to talk to, I might as well be playing the computerPanPizza15

[QUOTE="marioraider"][QUOTE="agentfred"]

[QUOTE="meetroid8"]Games don't need it but it adds to an online experience. Eventually Wii will have it and how could they have a 32 player shooter with no servers? The shortcomings will hopefully eventually be fixed by Ninty.agentfred

They may eventually be fixed, but theirs a problem now, and theirs a problem with SSBB.

To you, there is. But to me, I really couldn't care less about chat.

"I couldn't care less about damage modeling"

I've heard it all before.

How about this:

"Voice chat would be nice, but it's not needed for SSBB."

World of Warcarf is the most sucessful online game in the world and vioce chat is not part of the program.Marka1700

They have been talking about patching it in.

And let me tell ya.. raiding without Ventrilo sucks. WoW really does need voice chat for raiding.