Why do hermits lie so much about PCs hitting 60fps? PC can't do it either, I am exposing the truth!

@Xplode_games: Does my sig says "currently playing" listed for Ghost Recon Wildlands?

Granted, I have yet to play the game and I have no time for Wildlands as I'm getting ready to play Star Wars: Battlefront 2 & Destiny 2 on my PC. So with that, I'm taking "first person shooters" so I can go fresh for both Battlefront 2 & Destiny 2 :)

Now I get it, everyone is responding to the title. I probably shouldn't have written that in the title, I thought people would actually read my OP. I mention there that I know PC can do 144fps or more but that wasn't my point. My point was the double standard when comparing if a console or certain PC configuration can get run a game at 60 fps.

For a console when you say 60 fps you are talking about a vsynced 60 and everyone is very intolerant of even minor drops. On the PC side it's ok to post charts that show the average 60fps and you're good. That's a double standard.

Shortages caused by miners. Once all the sub $300 AMD gpu's disappeared they had to to turn to the next best things GTX 1060 6gb and GTX 1070.

I didn't reply to the last thread I created? Lol, I replied directly to almost every single comment.

That's exactly right. I saw a 1080 earlier today for $460. It's expired already but still. If I were buying a GPU today I would much rather spend $500-$550 on a 1080 than 350 for an 8GB RX 580 or $450 for a 1070. The 1060 6GB right now is around $270 so it's sort of reasonable. The Vegas are out of control so I don't even mention them.

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What is this? I don't even...

These forums seem to be all about who can make the biggest ass of themselves lately.

Yea just ignore my picture bud. Dream on.

@Xplode_games: Most gpu benchmark charts show both average, and minimum fps. Nice try.

If you actually looked at benchmarks you will see on the graph that it will show minimum and average frames per second. It’s not hard to read the graphs on sites like toms hardware or anandtech. This thread is terrible and should be locked for a stupid topic.

@Xplode_games: yeah it's definitely the title

Wonder how many times this has to be posted before he gets the idea.

This isn't mine (mine does 40-50 fps at 768p on Ultra) but some games are so well optimized that yeah...

I tried to change it in a full edit but it didn't let me do it.

Telling half the truth is a lie because you are knowingly withholding the full truth as you know it. When you show a graph that shows a bar for the average and the a bar for the 99th percentile or minimum or whatever the difference there is and you don't explain that you are only comparing the 99th percentile to the consoles performance, then that person is being misleading. You're being even more misleading because although some charts show the minimum framerate but a lot of them don't. The charts posted here to prove a point for the most part only use the average fps. Especially if we're talking about if a PC can do 4K @60fps in Ultra settings, you can bet your @ss they're going to show a chart that has only average fps.

There is a big difference between minimum framerate and average framerate. If this isn't clarified and explained well in a comparison, then there is a good chance there is some trickery at play. I am calling that double standard out. If you're not guilty of it then I'm not talking about you.

Not as much as you X1X haters! lol

Try harder. I havent seen an "average fps" chart in ages.

I'm a X1X hater?

@Xplode_games: I can't speak for every hermit, but when we say "at least PC can get 60 fps", that's generally referring to the option to get 60 fps by adjusting resolution, image quality, etc in order to achieve it.

Consoles on the other hand, the best you can usually hope for, is rock solid 30 fps like HZD, which is rare. And there are no settings to tinker with in order to fix the frame pacing/frame rate issues.

I think you're assuming we're all sitting here smugly claiming to be hitting 60+ fps in every game on Ultra settings at 4K.

Most of us are gaming anywhere from 1080p - 1440p, with whatever mix of IQ settings is required to lock in that frame rate.

Myself, I run most games between 1300p and 1600p, with the "ultra" preset, and then useless shit like depth of field, chromatic aberration, lens flare etc turned off. I might even lower anti-aliasing, since 1600p is already a type of MSAA that drastically reduces jagged lines anyways.

hehe , you bet right.

Lol @this thread.

The OP is stupid. I do 60 FPS bc that is high as my monitor goes. I have a 3440x1440 ultrawide. This is something console players will never get to experience. I obviously do not max my 1080 Ti out with this resolution. It is very obvious that the OP is clueless on PC parts and hardware.

We officially have the Flat Earth equivalent of a System Wars thread, where evidence and facts never get in the way of an irrational narrative.

I lol'd hard.

who is withholding anything? it's all visible

Minimum framerate = the lowest framerate that occurs. So your garbage argument is moot. Any benchmarks from any reputable site have that stat in there.

eerrr there are LOTS of TVs with refresh rates above 60, in fact most 4k TVs have 400Hz, so whats your excuse? and yeah, games are locked at 60fps on consoles, and there is nothing you can do about it, you cannot diable the 60fps (or any fps) limiter, PCs don't have that problem, thats kind of my point here.....

You don't even answer my main point which is that there is a double standard. If a console game can't hit a locked 60 fps in a game, don't come and say look how easy these PCs can hit 60 when you're only showing a chart showing the average fps. The average fps is not the MINIMUM WITHOUT DROPPING A FRAME fps.

If you have a GTX 1060 or above on PC, most games at 1080p stay above the 60fps margin, and for those that don't, AGAIN, you can adjust settings to optimize it for 60fps, on PC you can reduce the AA level, you can disable V-sync, you can do a bunch of things to retain a minimum 60fps, or you can upgrade your hardware if you don't want to compromise, either way on PC a locked 60fps experience is far more achievable, can you do the same with consoles? no you cannot, if a game cannot be locked at 60fps on consoles then there is nothing you can do about it. Most charts you see online show case benchmarks of games running at the highest settings (with features that are not even available on consoles) thats why you see those dips, do you even know how consoles would look like if they were added to those charts? you would have a hard time maintaining 30fps you wouldn't even be talking about 60fps! XD

who told you that?

Lol this dude is always revealing "the truth."

My PC runs many games at 144 fps. I'm not even flexing or flossing; most mid-end PCs could run many games at 1080p 144fps.

Yeah you might be one. ;)

This thread was ill judged.

Nvidia doesn't have fine wine technology built-in unlike amd so it ages like vinegar yo.

Also should I be laughing that I bought the 1070 off someone for $300 before the mining craze crept up to the nvidia cards.

OK? I personally know there are lots of console games that run in 60 fps. It's very common with Nintendo games, for example.

That's not a lie. Many PC gamers play games in higher than 60 FPS. Me included.

Not all PCs with a 1070 drops to 30 or 20 FPS in games. That depends on the other hardware in the PC. I'd say if you drop to 20 or 30 FPS with a 1070, your other PC parts aren't very good.

You serious? OK. A game that is said to be 60FPS on a console and drops to low 50 or 40s, then yeah, saying the game runs in 60 FPS is a joke indeed, since it doesn't. This would go for a PC game as well. But why say the charts are wrong? As long as you don't know what other parts they are using, the charts aren't very helpful. You can't put a 1070 into an old ass PC and expect to get the results the charts are showing. You'd know this if you wouldn't be a complete moron.

This has just got to be the dumbest thread of the week.

This is desperate.

I play all my PC games that aren't capped, at 60fps constant. PC gamers are willing to drop settings here and there to get it done.

The difference on consoles, is that developers/publishers actively seek 30fps so that they can push graphics in stead. The irony is, consoles are marketed as graphics whore machines over gameplay performance. THAT is why nearly ALL games are set at 30fps.

Oh and console games constantly dip from 30fps AND 60fps. GT5 had dips under 60fps. It is not mandatory on consoles for the frame rates to be locked, it never has been. I wish it was, GTA 4 looks shitty with its constant dips under 30fps on the Xbox 360.

The only thing you exposed is your inadequate knowledge of pc hardware.

Best. Response. Ever!

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Again...this is stupid.

These topics have really exposed a fundamental lack of understanding of how PC gaming works IMO.

@Xplode_games: OP THERE NOT called Hermits anymore PC gamers are the ferrari gaming owners they are suave and powerful

go look at youtube look at all those cool people playing pc and ditching consolels THE HERMITS AND SUCH are on console the cool people are on PC

@Xplode_games: Because you can look at benchmarks with the minimum fps... and for a lot of 4k games on a high end PC that minimum is about 60fps... If the xbx has a minimum of 20 fps with games it's justified to criticize it when comparing to PC. Now your argument before about the price of PC gaming is legit when comparing but if looking solely at performance you don't have a valid argument. You're coming off as either a troll or inept and both of those are sad because I rallied behind you...

@Xplode_games: Nope I don't read every thread and are you sure that was all hermits?

Who is this "they"?

the GTX 1080 im using is hitting way above 60 on games if i game at 1080p example being gtaV which goes to 120fps and higher..lol. if i go to 4k on some of the higher end games ill hit 60 with some drops, on my 4k tv, which only goes up to 60mhz refresh.

I think we have a few more pages to go before we have properly defended the PC Master Race am I right guys?

Yeah screw you Xplode my pc drop frames? Never. PC rock solid 1000 FPS. Fucking 10K resolution. GTX 1090 Ti. Get rekt.

@Sam3231: lol!!! I never heard that one before... Xplode!! Nice... seriously I lol'd irl!

I'm not sure it's all hermits. Maybe it's cows hiding behind their PCs, who knows. When I say they, I mean the posters who replied with that opinion. I don't remember their usernames. Their in my recent threads for anyone who wants to dig them up.

My problem is I type too fast and forgot a zero. I meant PC isn't always a rock solid 600 fps. Sometimes in drops in the low 500s and sometimes 400s but that is it. Meanwhile console peasants struggle with a choppy 30fps blurred screen res garbage.

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