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#103 fixer293
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[QUOTE="fixer293"][QUOTE="-PS360-"][QUOTE="gamergeekgeek"][QUOTE="Aquamarine2"]

PS3 is 3 times more powerful than Xbox360.

The PS3 has the Cell=8 Cores, and RSX= Nvidia 8800 GTX.

Xbox360 hsa 3 core cpu, and Xenos=9800 Pro

jack_russel

so why do multiplats look better on 360 again??

dumb ignorant fanboy hear me out, these so called games were made for the 360 and then ported over if that is something you havent relized yet then do please leave forever, because it has been said already, even with the ports they still look no different so you guys better come up with a better argument

That is the lamest excuse I have heard from any type of anboy.

How is that an excuse??? He just said something good about the 360!!! I don't get it. It's like whatever a cows say lemmings automatically disagree with it, even it it's something good about the 360.

So because it is on 360, sony developers just under achieve, that is a lame excuse, why don't they try and prove these "power capabilities" the PS3 has to show up the 360....oh it can't.

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#104 -PS360-
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[QUOTE="fixer293"][QUOTE="-PS360-"][QUOTE="gamergeekgeek"][QUOTE="Aquamarine2"]

PS3 is 3 times more powerful than Xbox360.

The PS3 has the Cell=8 Cores, and RSX= Nvidia 8800 GTX.

Xbox360 hsa 3 core cpu, and Xenos=9800 Pro

jack_russel

so why do multiplats look better on 360 again??

dumb ignorant fanboy hear me out, these so called games were made for the 360 and then ported over if that is something you havent relized yet then do please leave forever, because it has been said already, even with the ports they still look no different so you guys better come up with a better argument

That is the lamest excuse I have heard from any type of anboy.

How is that an excuse??? He just said something good about the 360!!! I don't get it. It's like whatever a cows say lemmings automatically disagree with it, even it it's something good about the 360.

thats because ignorant "lemmings"think they are much better than everyone else

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#106 hobbit93
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[QUOTE="jack_russel"][QUOTE="fixer293"][QUOTE="-PS360-"][QUOTE="gamergeekgeek"][QUOTE="Aquamarine2"]

PS3 is 3 times more powerful than Xbox360.

The PS3 has the Cell=8 Cores, and RSX= Nvidia 8800 GTX.

Xbox360 hsa 3 core cpu, and Xenos=9800 Pro

-PS360-

so why do multiplats look better on 360 again??

dumb ignorant fanboy hear me out, these so called games were made for the 360 and then ported over if that is something you havent relized yet then do please leave forever, because it has been said already, even with the ports they still look no different so you guys better come up with a better argument

That is the lamest excuse I have heard from any type of anboy.

How is that an excuse??? He just said something good about the 360!!! I don't get it. It's like whatever a cows say lemmings automatically disagree with it, even it it's something good about the 360.

thats because ignorant "lemmings"think they are much better than everyone else

lemmings??? are you kiddin me?? if anything the cows think they are top dogs because they THINK they have the best system because they paid almost a thousand dollar for a paper weight blu ray player... i know you are unhappy with your purchase cow but dont take it up on the lemmings
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#107 kevy619
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[QUOTE="kevy619"][QUOTE="Aquamarine2"]

PS3 is 3 times more powerful than Xbox360.

The PS3 has the Cell=8 Cores, and RSX= Nvidia 8800 GTX.

Xbox360 hsa 3 core cpu, and Xenos=9800 Pro

SambaLele

The ps3 has one main core, and 6 secondary not as useful ones (2 are not being used). The ps3's main core is very powerful, the other ones are good for preventing bottlenecking or other non-major operations. The 360 cores are more general purpose, although none or as powerful as the ps3s main core. The 360 has a slight GPU advantage as well.

you just proved you know nothing about the Cell.

the SPEs are not less powerful cores. they are extremelly efficient and have greater performance than most CPUs we have in many tasks. the only thing is that they are not general purpose cores. but that doesn't mean anything when we're talking about gaming processing, since general purpose processing is good for systems like a PC.

No, this proves you didnt read my post. SPEs are less useful, since they are not general purpose. The sony style is to have pretty games that play well enough, with cinematic experiences. Microsoft are more focused directly on gameplay and things like AI. Did you like God of War better than Ninja Gaiden? Alot of people did actually. Thats what ps3 will bring to the table, games like MGS4 & God of War 3. While the xbox 360 will give us games like Halo 3 & Mass Effect. Im actually buying a ps3, i cant not have Team ICO games!

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#108 -PS360-
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[QUOTE="-PS360-"][QUOTE="jack_russel"][QUOTE="fixer293"][QUOTE="-PS360-"][QUOTE="gamergeekgeek"][QUOTE="Aquamarine2"]

PS3 is 3 times more powerful than Xbox360.

The PS3 has the Cell=8 Cores, and RSX= Nvidia 8800 GTX.

Xbox360 hsa 3 core cpu, and Xenos=9800 Pro

hobbit93

so why do multiplats look better on 360 again??

dumb ignorant fanboy hear me out, these so called games were made for the 360 and then ported over if that is something you havent relized yet then do please leave forever, because it has been said already, even with the ports they still look no different so you guys better come up with a better argument

That is the lamest excuse I have heard from any type of anboy.

How is that an excuse??? He just said something good about the 360!!! I don't get it. It's like whatever a cows say lemmings automatically disagree with it, even it it's something good about the 360.

thats because ignorant "lemmings"think they are much better than everyone else

lemmings??? are you kiddin me?? if anything the cows think they are top dogs because they THINK they have the best system because they paid almost a thousand dollar for a paper weight blu ray player... i know you are unhappy with your purchase cow but dont take it up on the lemmings

actually i was jsut fine thanks until LEMMINGS created a topic such as this because they are too jealous for whats to come, you are mixed up blind man, tell me did a cow make this topic? im just trying to show people how wrong ignorant fanboys such as you actually are

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#109 jack_russel
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[QUOTE="jack_russel"][QUOTE="fixer293"][QUOTE="-PS360-"][QUOTE="gamergeekgeek"][QUOTE="Aquamarine2"]

PS3 is 3 times more powerful than Xbox360.

The PS3 has the Cell=8 Cores, and RSX= Nvidia 8800 GTX.

Xbox360 hsa 3 core cpu, and Xenos=9800 Pro

fixer293

so why do multiplats look better on 360 again??

dumb ignorant fanboy hear me out, these so called games were made for the 360 and then ported over if that is something you havent relized yet then do please leave forever, because it has been said already, even with the ports they still look no different so you guys better come up with a better argument

That is the lamest excuse I have heard from any type of anboy.

How is that an excuse??? He just said something good about the 360!!! I don't get it. It's like whatever a cows say lemmings automatically disagree with it, even it it's something good about the 360.

So because it is on 360, sony developers just under achieve, that is a lame excuse, why don't they try and prove these "power capabilities" the PS3 has to show up the 360....oh it can't.

NO. Because it's a port. A PORT!!! Don't you get it??? They don't completely remake a multiplay for each system, they just port it over. when a game is made for the 360 it's optimized for the 360's hardware, so when you port it over it's not going to run as good on something else, by it's very nature. If the games were made on the PS3 then poorly ported over to the 360 then they would look worse on the 360. But since the multiplats are made on the 360 they look worse on the PS3. Here let me put it in lemming language for you: The PS3 gets crappy hand-me-down ports; while the 360 gets the original, optimized versions.
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#110 -PS360-
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[QUOTE="fixer293"][QUOTE="jack_russel"][QUOTE="fixer293"][QUOTE="-PS360-"][QUOTE="gamergeekgeek"][QUOTE="Aquamarine2"]

PS3 is 3 times more powerful than Xbox360.

The PS3 has the Cell=8 Cores, and RSX= Nvidia 8800 GTX.

Xbox360 hsa 3 core cpu, and Xenos=9800 Pro

jack_russel

so why do multiplats look better on 360 again??

dumb ignorant fanboy hear me out, these so called games were made for the 360 and then ported over if that is something you havent relized yet then do please leave forever, because it has been said already, even with the ports they still look no different so you guys better come up with a better argument

That is the lamest excuse I have heard from any type of anboy.

How is that an excuse??? He just said something good about the 360!!! I don't get it. It's like whatever a cows say lemmings automatically disagree with it, even it it's something good about the 360.

So because it is on 360, sony developers just under achieve, that is a lame excuse, why don't they try and prove these "power capabilities" the PS3 has to show up the 360....oh it can't.

NO. Because it's a port. A PORT!!! Don't you get it??? They don't completely remake a multiplay for each system, they just port it over. when a game is made for the 360 it's optimized for the 360's hardware, so when you port it over it's not going to run as good on something else, by it's very nature. If the games were made on the PS3 then poorly ported over to the 360 then they would look worse on the 360. But since the multiplats are made on the 360 they look worse on the PS3. Here let me put it in lemming language for you: The PS3 gets crappy hand-me-down ports; while the 360 gets the original, optimized versions.

quite frankly they dont look much worse at all, infact ones such as rainbow six vegas are better, cause they have all the extra maps already on it

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#111 SambaLele
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[QUOTE="SambaLele"][QUOTE="kevy619"][QUOTE="Aquamarine2"]

PS3 is 3 times more powerful than Xbox360.

The PS3 has the Cell=8 Cores, and RSX= Nvidia 8800 GTX.

Xbox360 hsa 3 core cpu, and Xenos=9800 Pro

kevy619

The ps3 has one main core, and 6 secondary not as useful ones (2 are not being used). The ps3's main core is very powerful, the other ones are good for preventing bottlenecking or other non-major operations. The 360 cores are more general purpose, although none or as powerful as the ps3s main core. The 360 has a slight GPU advantage as well.

you just proved you know nothing about the Cell.

the SPEs are not less powerful cores. they are extremelly efficient and have greater performance than most CPUs we have in many tasks. the only thing is that they are not general purpose cores. but that doesn't mean anything when we're talking about gaming processing, since general purpose processing is good for systems like a PC.

No, this proves you didnt read my post. SPEs are less useful, since they are not general purpose. The sony style is to have pretty games that play well enough, with cinematic experiences. Microsoft are more focused directly on gameplay and things like AI. Did you like God of War better than Ninja Gaiden? Alot of people did actually. Thats what ps3 will bring to the table, games like MGS4 & God of War 3. While the xbox 360 will give us games like Halo 3 & Mass Effect. Im actually buying a ps3, i cant not have Team ICO games!

this is exactly where you fail your logic. the 360's general purpose CPUs are great for general codes (like concatenating between OS, Live and games, and such things) but other tasks like sounds, AI, physics, and even gfx, uses much more specific processing methods, like vector processing. and the SPEs are way better on those type of tasks than any processor out there, even the PowerPCs used in the 360 (curiously, the Cell was based on the PowerPC, but it has some drastic changes that causes all those differences).

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#112 hobbit93
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[QUOTE="hobbit93"][QUOTE="-PS360-"][QUOTE="jack_russel"][QUOTE="fixer293"][QUOTE="-PS360-"][QUOTE="gamergeekgeek"][QUOTE="Aquamarine2"]

PS3 is 3 times more powerful than Xbox360.

The PS3 has the Cell=8 Cores, and RSX= Nvidia 8800 GTX.

Xbox360 hsa 3 core cpu, and Xenos=9800 Pro

-PS360-

so why do multiplats look better on 360 again??

dumb ignorant fanboy hear me out, these so called games were made for the 360 and then ported over if that is something you havent relized yet then do please leave forever, because it has been said already, even with the ports they still look no different so you guys better come up with a better argument

That is the lamest excuse I have heard from any type of anboy.

How is that an excuse??? He just said something good about the 360!!! I don't get it. It's like whatever a cows say lemmings automatically disagree with it, even it it's something good about the 360.

thats because ignorant "lemmings"think they are much better than everyone else

lemmings??? are you kiddin me?? if anything the cows think they are top dogs because they THINK they have the best system because they paid almost a thousand dollar for a paper weight blu ray player... i know you are unhappy with your purchase cow but dont take it up on the lemmings

actually i was jsut fine thanks until LEMMINGS created a topic such as this because they are too jealous for whats to come, you are mixed up blind man, tell me did a cow make this topic? im just trying to show people how wrong ignorant fanboys such as you actually are

think of it like this... by trying to fight the fanboysyou have become one
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#113 fixer293
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So why is it that 360 has more AAA's with better graphics?, explain that one cow.

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[QUOTE="jack_russel"][QUOTE="fixer293"][QUOTE="-PS360-"][QUOTE="gamergeekgeek"][QUOTE="Aquamarine2"]

PS3 is 3 times more powerful than Xbox360.

The PS3 has the Cell=8 Cores, and RSX= Nvidia 8800 GTX.

Xbox360 hsa 3 core cpu, and Xenos=9800 Pro

fixer293

so why do multiplats look better on 360 again??

dumb ignorant fanboy hear me out, these so called games were made for the 360 and then ported over if that is something you havent relized yet then do please leave forever, because it has been said already, even with the ports they still look no different so you guys better come up with a better argument

That is the lamest excuse I have heard from any type of anboy.

How is that an excuse??? He just said something good about the 360!!! I don't get it. It's like whatever a cows say lemmings automatically disagree with it, even it it's something good about the 360.

So because it is on 360, sony developers just under achieve, that is a lame excuse, why don't they try and prove these "power capabilities" the PS3 has to show up the 360....oh it can't.

In case you were living under a rock the 360 came out 1st and many games were made for it then ported over. So naturally games created then ported in a short space of time would look better on the native platform. When games are ported properly like oblivion they play better on the ps3. As seen at the e3 many multiplats were demoed on the 360 because that is what devs had 1st. Also looking at the e3 for 2007 sony stepped up and owned all including the 360 with a years lead with thier exclusives. The 360 is good for 2007 in 08 is will be all sony.

Just look at the sales of the 360 they have only sold 1 million units this year they are on life support if they don't pick it up the 360 will be DOA in 08.

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Why? Because marketing and hype are powerful tools.
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#116 fixer293
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[QUOTE="fixer293"][QUOTE="jack_russel"][QUOTE="fixer293"][QUOTE="-PS360-"][QUOTE="gamergeekgeek"][QUOTE="Aquamarine2"]

PS3 is 3 times more powerful than Xbox360.

The PS3 has the Cell=8 Cores, and RSX= Nvidia 8800 GTX.

Xbox360 hsa 3 core cpu, and Xenos=9800 Pro

BrooklynBomber

so why do multiplats look better on 360 again??

dumb ignorant fanboy hear me out, these so called games were made for the 360 and then ported over if that is something you havent relized yet then do please leave forever, because it has been said already, even with the ports they still look no different so you guys better come up with a better argument

That is the lamest excuse I have heard from any type of anboy.

How is that an excuse??? He just said something good about the 360!!! I don't get it. It's like whatever a cows say lemmings automatically disagree with it, even it it's something good about the 360.

So because it is on 360, sony developers just under achieve, that is a lame excuse, why don't they try and prove these "power capabilities" the PS3 has to show up the 360....oh it can't.

In case you were living under a rock the 360 came out 1st and many games were made for it then ported over. So naturally games created then ported in a short space of time would look better on the native platform. When games are ported properly like oblivion they play better on the ps3. As seen at the e3 many multiplats were demoed on the 360 because that is what devs had 1st. Also looking at the e3 for 2007 sony stepped up and owned all including the 360 with a years lead with thier exclusives. The 360 is good for 2007 in 08 is will be all sony.

Just look at the sales of the 360 they have only sold 1 million units this year they are on life support if they don't pick it up the 360 will be DOA in 08.

But Oblivion was a port and cows claim it looks better than 360, which really is not the case, and it had a year developement time.

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#117 DeadMan1290
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People believe that the PS3 is powerful because it is..But don't worry nw that all PS3s containing the Cell will be destroyed only time will tell if the PS3 will be more powerful in the near future:)

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#119 jack_russel
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So why is it that 360 has more AAA's with better graphics?, explain that one cow.

fixer293
.... I give up. you win. I give up. I lose. you win I can't win, everything I say just gets ignored, It's like i'm talking to a brick wall. It's like the last 4 post I made were just sent out into a void or something. There is no reasoning with you. I can't even say something good about the 360, you'll just keep on going and going and going with the same point that has already been addressed multiple times. I don't understand. Is this some sort of joke? is this a joke topic?
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#120 fixer293
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[QUOTE="fixer293"]

So why is it that 360 has more AAA's with better graphics?, explain that one cow.

-PS360-

i swear you are the dumbest fanboy i have ever argued with you ask the same questions, like why do 360 ports look better on my system at least twice and now this, you are really dumb im just gonna go out and say it, there are three thigns you should realize, 1. your question ahs been answered a billion times, 2. teh 360 has been out a year longer and has twice as many AAA's which is a pretty steady pattern, (the ps3 has the same pattern, unless of course you dont get that), and last your opinion of 360's graphics is an opinion, well in my opinion mgs4, hs, killzone have much nicer graphics than halo 3, mass effect, or even your precious perfect dark zero (utter trash btw).

You don't have to insult anyone, just answer the question, enjoy your vacation.

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#121 -PS360-
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[QUOTE="fixer293"]

So why is it that 360 has more AAA's with better graphics?, explain that one cow.

jack_russel

.... I give up. you win. I give up. I lose. you win I can't win, everything I say just gets ignored, It's like i'm talking to a brick wall. It's like the last 4 post I made were just sent out into a void or something. There is no reasoning with you. I can't even say something good about the 360, you'll just keep on going and going and going with the same point that has already been addressed multiple times. I don't understand. Is this some sort of joke? is this a joke topic?

lol im with you

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#122 X_CAPCOM_X
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[QUOTE="fixer293"]

So why is it that 360 has more AAA's with better graphics?, explain that one cow.

jack_russel

.... I give up. you win. I give up. I lose. you win I can't win, everything I say just gets ignored, It's like i'm talking to a brick wall. It's like the last 4 post I made were just sent out into a void or something. There is no reasoning with you. I can't even say something good about the 360, you'll just keep on going and going and going with the same point that has already been addressed multiple times. I don't understand. Is this some sort of joke? is this a joke topic?

Thats why you just don't post in threads like this; you'll get a smart-alec answer.

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#123 fixer293
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[QUOTE="fixer293"]

So why is it that 360 has more AAA's with better graphics?, explain that one cow.

jack_russel

.... I give up. you win. I give up. I lose. you win I can't win, everything I say just gets ignored, It's like i'm talking to a brick wall. It's like the last 4 post I made were just sent out into a void or something. There is no reasoning with you. I can't even say something good about the 360, you'll just keep on going and going and going with the same point that has already been addressed multiple times. I don't understand. Is this some sort of joke? is this a joke topic?

LOL, no you just got proved wrong, good day.The Ps3 is not the "super computer" you cows claim it to be.

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#124 ermacness
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[QUOTE="tidus222"]

killzone 2, MGS4, GT5, FF13

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kevy619

MGS4 looks awesome, but not because it wouldnt run on a 360

Killzone 2 looks pretty, but without any interesting AI or a crazy amount of enemies on screen

GT5 looks pretty, its taking forever for them to develop it

FF13 - we've only seen short cg, we have to wait and see on that one

umm i hate to tell you, but mgs4 will not "perfectly" get ported over to the 360 if it was getting ported to the 360. I mean why do lemmings believe that graphics is the only thing the ps3 is producing??!?!?. Are you forgetting that physics, character animnations, multiple things happening at once are also being handled by the ps3 (thanks to the cell)??!?!? Oh, and by the way , ps3 cpu=/=360 cpu get that through your head lemming
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#125 DeadMan1290
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[QUOTE="BrooklynBomber"][QUOTE="fixer293"][QUOTE="jack_russel"][QUOTE="fixer293"][QUOTE="-PS360-"][QUOTE="gamergeekgeek"][QUOTE="Aquamarine2"]

PS3 is 3 times more powerful than Xbox360.

The PS3 has the Cell=8 Cores, and RSX= Nvidia 8800 GTX.

Xbox360 hsa 3 core cpu, and Xenos=9800 Pro

fixer293

so why do multiplats look better on 360 again??

dumb ignorant fanboy hear me out, these so called games were made for the 360 and then ported over if that is something you havent relized yet then do please leave forever, because it has been said already, even with the ports they still look no different so you guys better come up with a better argument

That is the lamest excuse I have heard from any type of anboy.

How is that an excuse??? He just said something good about the 360!!! I don't get it. It's like whatever a cows say lemmings automatically disagree with it, even it it's something good about the 360.

So because it is on 360, sony developers just under achieve, that is a lame excuse, why don't they try and prove these "power capabilities" the PS3 has to show up the 360....oh it can't.

In case you were living under a rock the 360 came out 1st and many games were made for it then ported over. So naturally games created then ported in a short space of time would look better on the native platform. When games are ported properly like oblivion they play better on the ps3. As seen at the e3 many multiplats were demoed on the 360 because that is what devs had 1st. Also looking at the e3 for 2007 sony stepped up and owned all including the 360 with a years lead with thier exclusives. The 360 is good for 2007 in 08 is will be all sony.

Just look at the sales of the 360 they have only sold 1 million units this year they are on life support if they don't pick it up the 360 will be DOA in 08.

But Oblivion was a port and cows claim it looks better than 360, which really is not the case, and it had a year developement time.

Cows making excuses about ''Short periods of time to port a game from 360 to PS3'' What about Spiderman 3 I believ they both came out at the same time BUT the X360 version looks better meaning Spidey's costume on the 360 looked more detailed, the streets and the buildings also looked better on Xbox 360 THAN PS3 so this excuse you people use saying that short periods of time don't give developers the chance to use PS3s ''FULL POWER'' is useless...And now that SONY is being sued by Parallel Processing Corporation because they're using the Cell with its 15 year old patent and now all products containing the Cell will be DESTROYED so now let's see what will SONY do about this issue:)

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#126 DeadMan1290
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[QUOTE="BrooklynBomber"][QUOTE="fixer293"][QUOTE="jack_russel"][QUOTE="fixer293"][QUOTE="-PS360-"][QUOTE="gamergeekgeek"][QUOTE="Aquamarine2"]

PS3 is 3 times more powerful than Xbox360.

The PS3 has the Cell=8 Cores, and RSX= Nvidia 8800 GTX.

Xbox360 hsa 3 core cpu, and Xenos=9800 Pro

fixer293

so why do multiplats look better on 360 again??

dumb ignorant fanboy hear me out, these so called games were made for the 360 and then ported over if that is something you havent relized yet then do please leave forever, because it has been said already, even with the ports they still look no different so you guys better come up with a better argument

That is the lamest excuse I have heard from any type of anboy.

How is that an excuse??? He just said something good about the 360!!! I don't get it. It's like whatever a cows say lemmings automatically disagree with it, even it it's something good about the 360.

So because it is on 360, sony developers just under achieve, that is a lame excuse, why don't they try and prove these "power capabilities" the PS3 has to show up the 360....oh it can't.

In case you were living under a rock the 360 came out 1st and many games were made for it then ported over. So naturally games created then ported in a short space of time would look better on the native platform. When games are ported properly like oblivion they play better on the ps3. As seen at the e3 many multiplats were demoed on the 360 because that is what devs had 1st. Also looking at the e3 for 2007 sony stepped up and owned all including the 360 with a years lead with thier exclusives. The 360 is good for 2007 in 08 is will be all sony.

Just look at the sales of the 360 they have only sold 1 million units this year they are on life support if they don't pick it up the 360 will be DOA in 08.

But Oblivion was a port and cows claim it looks better than 360, which really is not the case, and it had a year developement time.

Cows making excuses about ''Short periods of time to port a game from 360 to PS3'' What about Spiderman 3 I believ they both came out at the same time BUT the X360 version looks better meaning Spidey's costume on the 360 looked more detailed, the streets and the buildings also looked better on Xbox 360 THAN PS3 so this excuse you people use saying that short periods of time don't give developers the chance to use PS3s ''FULL POWER'' is useless...And now that SONY is being sued by Parallel Processing Corporation because they're using the Cell with its 15 year old patent and now all products containing the Cell will be DESTROYED so now let's see what will SONY do about this issue:)

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#127 Hir0_N
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becuz of teh cell!1!!
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#128 BrooklynBomber
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People believe that the PS3 is powerful because it is..But don't worry nw that all PS3s containing the Cell will be destroyed only time will tell if the PS3 will be more powerful in the near future:)

DeadMan1290

The ps3 is more powerful but the 360 has better tools for the devs from whatI understand. However sony's tools are improving very fast and devs are starting to take advantage of the ps3's power and space, The 360 has two major problems:

1. Dvd-9 is causing devs to drop features/levels to fit on one disc

2. The 360 does not have a hard drive standard in all 360's ms could drop the core sku but that would lead to problems for everybody that bought a core already.

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#129 Art_424
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[QUOTE="fixer293"]

So why is it that 360 has more AAA's with better graphics?, explain that one cow.

-PS360-

i swear you are the dumbest fanboy i have ever argued with you ask the same questions, like why do 360 ports look better on my system at least twice and now this, you are really dumb im just gonna go out and say it, there are three thigns you should realize, 1. your question ahs been answered a billion times, 2. teh 360 has been out a year longer and has twice as many AAA's which is a pretty steady pattern, (the ps3 has the same pattern, unless of course you dont get that), and last your opinion of 360's graphics is an opinion, well in my opinion mgs4, hs, killzone have much nicer graphics than halo 3, mass effect, or even your precious perfect dark zero (utter trash btw).

Same excuse again "The one year advantage of the 360"...lol (didnt Sony say it would sell 5Mill without games alone?). Im still yet to see a exclusive AAA game from Sony, ported or rehashedgames dont count. MGS4 is the only game worth playing the hype-station3. Killzone2,Heavenly Sword dont sell as good as Halo3.(No contest, hands down). Mass Effectis already getting better reviews than HS. Perfect Dar Zero was like Super Star DustHDor F.E.A.R for the PS3...lol

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#130 Omnisystem
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I mean last time i checked, most multi-plat games run much smoother on the 360 still. This leads me to believe the systems are near equal in power.kevy619

Multiplats run smoother on the 360 so this means they are equal? Wouldn't this mean the 360 is more powerful?

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#131 ermacness
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[QUOTE="-PS360-"][QUOTE="fixer293"]

So why is it that 360 has more AAA's with better graphics?, explain that one cow.

Art_424

i swear you are the dumbest fanboy i have ever argued with you ask the same questions, like why do 360 ports look better on my system at least twice and now this, you are really dumb im just gonna go out and say it, there are three thigns you should realize, 1. your question ahs been answered a billion times, 2. teh 360 has been out a year longer and has twice as many AAA's which is a pretty steady pattern, (the ps3 has the same pattern, unless of course you dont get that), and last your opinion of 360's graphics is an opinion, well in my opinion mgs4, hs, killzone have much nicer graphics than halo 3, mass effect, or even your precious perfect dark zero (utter trash btw).

Same excuse again "The one year advantage of the 360"...lol (didnt Sony say it would sell 5Mill without games alone?). Im still yet to see a exclusive AAA game from Sony, ported or rehashedgames dont count. MGS4 is the only game worth playing the hype-station3. Killzone2,Heavenly Sword dont sell as good as Halo3.(No contest, hands down). Mass Effectis already getting better reviews than HS. Perfect Dar Zero was like Super Star DustHDor F.E.A.R for the PS3...lol

grand turismo still holds the record for having the series of games that soid the most world wide, none of m$ exclusive titles can't match it
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#132 GirlGirlGirls
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[QUOTE="Art_424"][QUOTE="-PS360-"][QUOTE="fixer293"]

So why is it that 360 has more AAA's with better graphics?, explain that one cow.

ermacness

i swear you are the dumbest fanboy i have ever argued with you ask the same questions, like why do 360 ports look better on my system at least twice and now this, you are really dumb im just gonna go out and say it, there are three thigns you should realize, 1. your question ahs been answered a billion times, 2. teh 360 has been out a year longer and has twice as many AAA's which is a pretty steady pattern, (the ps3 has the same pattern, unless of course you dont get that), and last your opinion of 360's graphics is an opinion, well in my opinion mgs4, hs, killzone have much nicer graphics than halo 3, mass effect, or even your precious perfect dark zero (utter trash btw).

Same excuse again "The one year advantage of the 360"...lol (didnt Sony say it would sell 5Mill without games alone?). Im still yet to see a exclusive AAA game from Sony, ported or rehashedgames dont count. MGS4 is the only game worth playing the hype-station3. Killzone2,Heavenly Sword dont sell as good as Halo3.(No contest, hands down). Mass Effectis already getting better reviews than HS. Perfect Dar Zero was like Super Star DustHDor F.E.A.R for the PS3...lol

grand turismo still holds the record for having the series of games that soid the most world wide, none of m$ exclusive titles can't match it

that title goes to Pokemans

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#133 Korrigan777
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[QUOTE="-PS360-"][QUOTE="fixer293"]

So why is it that 360 has more AAA's with better graphics?, explain that one cow.

Art_424

i swear you are the dumbest fanboy i have ever argued with you ask the same questions, like why do 360 ports look better on my system at least twice and now this, you are really dumb im just gonna go out and say it, there are three thigns you should realize, 1. your question ahs been answered a billion times, 2. teh 360 has been out a year longer and has twice as many AAA's which is a pretty steady pattern, (the ps3 has the same pattern, unless of course you dont get that), and last your opinion of 360's graphics is an opinion, well in my opinion mgs4, hs, killzone have much nicer graphics than halo 3, mass effect, or even your precious perfect dark zero (utter trash btw).

Same excuse again "The one year advantage of the 360"...lol (didnt Sony say it would sell 5Mill without games alone?). Im still yet to see a exclusive AAA game from Sony, ported or rehashedgames dont count. MGS4 is the only game worth playing the hype-station3. Killzone2,Heavenly Sword dont sell as good as Halo3.(No contest, hands down). Mass Effectis already getting better reviews than HS. Perfect Dar Zero was like Super Star DustHDor F.E.A.R for the PS3...lol

mass effect reviewed?!!?!?!?! send me the link!!?! seriously if it has been reviewed send the link, i'm really interested in this game.

the 360 didnt just have a year advantage it's architecture was also easier for devlopers to work with. have you seen the visuals in Uncharted and ratchet...thatsEDGE tools working. Edge toolshelps devs get more out of the ps3 in short.recently sony said that practically more and more third party devsare gettingthese tools to work with.

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#134 whoisryanmack
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What about Spiderman 3 I believ they both came out at the same time BUT the X360 version looks better meaning Spidey's costume on the 360 looked more detailed, the streets and the buildings also looked better on Xbox 360 THAN PS3 so this excuse you people use saying that short periods of time don't give developers the chance to use PS3s ''FULL POWER'' is useless...DeadMan1290

In this case, it would be due to the cells unique architecture. You can't expect developers to instantly have mastered efficient use of theSPE's in the first year. It's possible they may not even do it well by the end of this gen. 360's CPU is more traditional, and programming for it is much easier due to the collective knowledge that already exists about programming for it.

If you say "excuses, excuses", that's ok. It's the reality of progress whether or not you'd be willing to accept it.

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#135 Mobb_One1
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You'd think Sony would have unveiled the Power of the Cell by now, but instead they make endless excuses like "It only uses 25% of its power". and Sony Fanboys claim:"10,000 cars in GT5, OMG" "Look at the grass in GT5, its so awesome". When they fail to realize or ignore the fact they are usually getting non-realistic racing simulator with bumper car physics...lol:lol:

Art_424

Boy and girls, this is an example of damage-control. Take notes :)

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#136 fixer293
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[QUOTE="Art_424"]

You'd think Sony would have unveiled the Power of the Cell by now, but instead they make endless excuses like "It only uses 25% of its power". and Sony Fanboys claim:"10,000 cars in GT5, OMG" "Look at the grass in GT5, its so awesome". When they fail to realize or ignore the fact they are usually getting non-realistic racing simulator with bumper car physics...lol:lol:

Mobb_One1

Boy and girls, this is an example of damage-control. Take notes :)

Why, because he proved you wrong, present an argument or don't post.

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#137 Mobb_One1
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[QUOTE="gamergeekgeek"][QUOTE="Aquamarine2"]

PS3 is 3 times more powerful than Xbox360.

The PS3 has the Cell=8 Cores, and RSX= Nvidia 8800 GTX.

Xbox360 hsa 3 core cpu, and Xenos=9800 Pro

jack_russel

so why do multiplats look better on 360 again??

because the games are made for the 360 then ported to the PS3.

Why is that so hard for him to understand?

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#138 Mobb_One1
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[QUOTE="Mobb_One1"][QUOTE="Art_424"]

You'd think Sony would have unveiled the Power of the Cell by now, but instead they make endless excuses like "It only uses 25% of its power". and Sony Fanboys claim:"10,000 cars in GT5, OMG" "Look at the grass in GT5, its so awesome". When they fail to realize or ignore the fact they are usually getting non-realistic racing simulator with bumper car physics...lol:lol:

fixer293

Boy and girls, this is an example of damage-control. Take notes :)

Why, because he proved you wrong, present an argument or don't post.

And if I don't present an argument, whats going to happen? :lol:

btw PS3 is more powerful than the 360. Use common sense.

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#139 Sushimaster
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The playstation three is, in fact, the most powerful this time around. LAst gen there was a big difference between the xbox and the ps2. This time, it's a closer call, and ... Sony winz
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#140 real_madrid_99
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[QUOTE="fixer293"][QUOTE="Mobb_One1"][QUOTE="Art_424"]

You'd think Sony would have unveiled the Power of the Cell by now, but instead they make endless excuses like "It only uses 25% of its power". and Sony Fanboys claim:"10,000 cars in GT5, OMG" "Look at the grass in GT5, its so awesome". When they fail to realize or ignore the fact they are usually getting non-realistic racing simulator with bumper car physics...lol:lol:

Mobb_One1

Boy and girls, this is an example of damage-control. Take notes :)

Why, because he proved you wrong, present an argument or don't post.

And if I don't present an argument, whats going to happen? :lol:

btw PS3 is more powerful than the 360. Use common sense.

and you should look your self in the mirror when talking about damage control since both have proved a point but you......

quit the damage control please PS3 was more overhyped than Hyguain.

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#141 kevy619
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[QUOTE="kevy619"][QUOTE="tidus222"]

killzone 2, MGS4, GT5, FF13

/ thread

ermacness

MGS4 looks awesome, but not because it wouldnt run on a 360

Killzone 2 looks pretty, but without any interesting AI or a crazy amount of enemies on screen

GT5 looks pretty, its taking forever for them to develop it

FF13 - we've only seen short cg, we have to wait and see on that one

umm i hate to tell you, but mgs4 will not "perfectly" get ported over to the 360 if it was getting ported to the 360. I mean why do lemmings believe that graphics is the only thing the ps3 is producing??!?!?. Are you forgetting that physics, character animnations, multiple things happening at once are also being handled by the ps3 (thanks to the cell)??!?!? Oh, and by the way , ps3 cpu=/=360 cpu get that through your head lemming

ok buddy,you didnt say anything of any meaning. I didnt say MGS4 will be on 360, dont be an idiot.

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#142 Marka1700
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The Cell is so powerful that it equals 1/4 of a huge ass supercomputer.

I need to find the link.

XenogearsMaster

Complete BS, if this were so the ps3 would cost $200K plus. Just like the emotion engine can do toy sotry graphics, its all just a big PR hype scam.

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#143 kevy619
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The playstation three is, in fact, the most powerful this time around. LAst gen there was a big difference between the xbox and the ps2. This time, it's a closer call, and ... Sony winzSushimaster

True, the power difference between the xbox 360 and the ps3 isnt that much. Thats what Ive been saying, not that the 360 is more powerful.

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#144 elite_ferns1
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sony is using the propaganda of CELL, just to show their console is superior. I love my ps3 only second to my 360 (my sis usually plays the wii), but graphically, i see nothing for the ps3 except blu-ray.
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#145 Sushimaster
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WHERE IS THIS PROPAGANDA!!!??? Did anyone see cell processor pamphlets??? Did they hand them out on Halloween or something? Did I miss something?
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#146 SambaLele
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[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"]

The Cell is so powerful that it equals 1/4 of a huge ass supercomputer.

I need to find the link.

Marka1700

Complete BS, if this were so the ps3 would cost $200K plus. Just like the emotion engine can do toy sotry graphics, its all just a big PR hype scam.

and here i go again:

http://www.playstatic.com/news/582

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#147 hobbit93
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[QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"]

The Cell is so powerful that it equals 1/4 of a huge ass supercomputer.

I need to find the link.

SambaLele

Complete BS, if this were so the ps3 would cost $200K plus. Just like the emotion engine can do toy sotry graphics, its all just a big PR hype scam.

and here i go again:

http://www.playstatic.com/news/582

and here I go again... how does that help with making games??? this is GAMEspot if im not mistakened... PS3 can have the power of the sun but how will it help it make games that appeal to people other than the JAPANESE???
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#148 kevy619
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[QUOTE="kevy619"][QUOTE="SambaLele"][QUOTE="kevy619"][QUOTE="Aquamarine2"]

PS3 is 3 times more powerful than Xbox360.

The PS3 has the Cell=8 Cores, and RSX= Nvidia 8800 GTX.

Xbox360 hsa 3 core cpu, and Xenos=9800 Pro

SambaLele

The ps3 has one main core, and 6 secondary not as useful ones (2 are not being used). The ps3's main core is very powerful, the other ones are good for preventing bottlenecking or other non-major operations. The 360 cores are more general purpose, although none or as powerful as the ps3s main core. The 360 has a slight GPU advantage as well.

you just proved you know nothing about the Cell.

the SPEs are not less powerful cores. they are extremelly efficient and have greater performance than most CPUs we have in many tasks. the only thing is that they are not general purpose cores. but that doesn't mean anything when we're talking about gaming processing, since general purpose processing is good for systems like a PC.

No, this proves you didnt read my post. SPEs are less useful, since they are not general purpose. The sony style is to have pretty games that play well enough, with cinematic experiences. Microsoft are more focused directly on gameplay and things like AI. Did you like God of War better than Ninja Gaiden? Alot of people did actually. Thats what ps3 will bring to the table, games like MGS4 & God of War 3. While the xbox 360 will give us games like Halo 3 & Mass Effect. Im actually buying a ps3, i cant not have Team ICO games!

this is exactly where you fail your logic. the 360's general purpose CPUs are great for general codes (like concatenating between OS, Live and games, and such things) but other tasks like sounds, AI, physics, and even gfx, uses much more specific processing methods, like vector processing. and the SPEs are way better on those type of tasks than any processor out there, even the PowerPCs used in the 360 (curiously, the Cell was based on the PowerPC, but it has some drastic changes that causes all those differences).

I disagree with that, with more research you will see that the SPE's are actually quite limited on what they can actually do. i mean the can only run code at 256kb! Open your eyes.

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#149 kevy619
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http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=758390

its a good read, it actually makes sense to!