Why do people care about PS3 or 360 sales?

Unless if you own stock or are a shareholder in one of these companies than I don't see any reason to get excited if a multiplat sells 10 more copies on 360 or PS3. How does it benefit you in anyway whatsoever? Do these corporations mail you a paycheck every couple weeks or something? Who cares if one system is "winning" by about 200 more units or not? Both sales are pretty neck and neck so it's not like you won't have any problems finding people to play with or anything like that.

Seriously, I have seen arguments from people saying that MS or Sony made X amount of $$$ last year or something... lol why do you know so much about this and how does it affect you personaly in anyway? Another thing I don't understand is the whole 1st place 2nd place thing, I really have no idea what they are talking about but for some reason people say they are happy to be 2nd place or 3rd place which makes no sense...isn't 1st place the place that you want to be at in a race? Sorry but I honestly have no idea what they are refering to when they talk about the 2nd place or 3rd or 4th or whatever place thing..

All I know is that I bought my system and I enjoy it, just like you buy yours and enjoy it too. And both these companieskeep selling units and there are plenty of peoplewho own the system you bought soit's not likeyou will have a hard timefinding people to play with online or anything.Neither of these companies are going to go out of business and they will both make new systems later anyways.

I play games not sales....

this is system wars

thar u go

Because someone needs to aim for 2nd place.

People determine dominance with numbers......:lol:

I'm a shareholder.

Sales are boring. Incredbily so.

I think I'm going to take a break from Gamespot becuase I'm actually quite bored by this all.

Why would I, or anyone else, care if the Xbox sold 1 million more units than the PS3 unless you had some sort of personal stake in it.

It's quite sad really.

because the race for 2nd place is a deadly one and a few people here are board members of sony/MS

EDIT: damnit sliver took my idea

it is meaningless now (and meaningless to me in general really) but at the start of a consoles lifespan sales determine developer support.

larger installed base = dev interest and profit potential.

also, sales are always touted by all manufacturers of products to entice more sales from people on the fence about buying a product.

when you see an ad that says "ford f150 pickup #1 in sales!!!" that ad was designed by a marketing agency that are experts in psycology and determining what tactics are successful in moving units.

if they believes sales are important you can pretty much believe they are since like i said before those people are professionals in determining what motivates people to buy things.

People determine dominance with numbers......:lol:

el3m2tigre

Ha ha! Math.

Sales are boring. Incredbily so.

I think I'm going to take a break from Gamespot becuase I'm actually quite bored by this all.

Why would I, or anyone else, care if the Xbox sold 1 million more units than the PS3 unless you had some sort of personal stake in it.

It's quite sad really.

balfe1990

I feel ya man...

I tend to only spend about 1 or 2 hours at most on GS at a time as I just have better things to do. I post here thinking that mabey someone will ask for help on a game or wants to talk about some cool new game coming out ect... All that is cool but man GS is simply turning into a fanboy rant place. I tend to post in the PS3 section because I thought I would get away from the fanboys but even they somehow find a way into that section and ruin the place.

Like for instance I was in a PS3 section thread talking to someone whowanted to buy Red Dead Redemptoinfor their PS3 after they played it at their friends house on their 360, and then a bunch of PS3 fanboys jumped in and yelled at the guy because he played on a 360... I was like "what's wrong with everyone"

I had a similar thing happen to me personally, someone posted a question about needing help with a quest in Oblivion in the 360 section and I jumped into the thread and gave the guy advice on the mission. But then several people "attacked" me because I play on PS3. I explained to them that the thread was about Oblivion and I can help the guy, but they didn't care.

And yes who cares if PS3 sold 30 million and 360 sold 31 million (I don't know the actual numbers just an example)

30 million is STILL alot! That means there are plenty of people to play with on both systems

Overall I am getting pretty sick of this place....

Fall back for when someone get shot down in System Wars, they can turn around and say "Well PS3/XBOX has sold more".

Maybe because they're fans of teams that lose the Super Bowl.

I feel ya man...

I tend to only spend about 1 or 2 hours at most on GS at a time as I just have better things to do. I post here thinking that mabey someone will ask for help on a game or wants to talk about some cool new game coming out ect... All that is cool but man GS is simply turning into a fanboy rant place. I tend to post in the PS3 section because I thought I would get away from the fanboys but even they somehow find a way into that section and ruin the place.

Like for instance I was in a PS3 section thread talking to someone whowanted to buy Red Dead Redemptoinfor their PS3 after they played it at their friends house on their 360, and then a bunch of PS3 fanboys jumped in and yelled at the guy because he played on a 360... I was like "what's wrong with everyone"

I had a similar thing happen to me personally, someone posted a question about needing help with a quest in Oblivion in the 360 section and I jumped into the thread and gave the guy advice on the mission. But then several people "attacked" me because I play on PS3. I explained to them that the thread was about Oblivion and I can help the guy, but they didn't care.

And yes who cares if PS3 sold 30 million and 360 sold 31 million (I don't know the actual numbers just an example)

30 million is STILL alot! That means there are plenty of people to play with on both systems

Overall I am getting pretty sick of this place....

ShadowMoses900

This place is great when you want an intelligent debate or discussion with mature people but sadly they are few in number these days.

I can't be arsed wasting my time arguing about sub-hd resolutions, who has more or better exclusives and why the CoD series is a bad game etc.

I can slowly feel my IQ level dropping every time I stupidly enter one of those threads.

When you have no games, it's all you have left. Heil68

The Wii has been through a rough year, I agree.

Tp answer TC, Sales mean nothing to me, as I always thought Quality>Quanity, but that's just me.

When you have no games, it's all you have left. Heil68

pretty much

Well, the they are only like 2 million apart, and I want to be the first person to make a thread updating us on this. F5 F5 F5 F5 F5.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I feel ya man...

I tend to only spend about 1 or 2 hours at most on GS at a time as I just have better things to do. I post here thinking that mabey someone will ask for help on a game or wants to talk about some cool new game coming out ect... All that is cool but man GS is simply turning into a fanboy rant place. I tend to post in the PS3 section because I thought I would get away from the fanboys but even they somehow find a way into that section and ruin the place.

Like for instance I was in a PS3 section thread talking to someone whowanted to buy Red Dead Redemptoinfor their PS3 after they played it at their friends house on their 360, and then a bunch of PS3 fanboys jumped in and yelled at the guy because he played on a 360... I was like "what's wrong with everyone"

I had a similar thing happen to me personally, someone posted a question about needing help with a quest in Oblivion in the 360 section and I jumped into the thread and gave the guy advice on the mission. But then several people "attacked" me because I play on PS3. I explained to them that the thread was about Oblivion and I can help the guy, but they didn't care.

And yes who cares if PS3 sold 30 million and 360 sold 31 million (I don't know the actual numbers just an example)

30 million is STILL alot! That means there are plenty of people to play with on both systems

Overall I am getting pretty sick of this place....

balfe1990

This place is great when you want an intelligent debate or discussion with mature people but sadly they are few in number these days.

I can't be arsed wasting my time arguing about sub-hd resolutions, who has more or better exclusives and why the CoD series is a bad game etc.

I can slowly feel my IQ level dropping every time I stupidly enter one of those threads.

I REALLY find the "PS3 vs 360 multiplat lens of truth" threads to be the dumbest...

1.I seriosly doubt that anyone sees any difference in the first place with thier naked eye in the 90% of multiplats that come out. If there was no Lens of truth sites fanboys wouldn't be arguing about them.

2.The differences in multiplats are SO small and insignificant that no sane person would care about it or notice it. Come on... does anyone REALLY care if their game has a small extra leaf on a tree or a 2% invisible frame rate difference, I seriously doubt it. All lens of truth does is just nipticks things to exploit fanboys for money, the fanboys are the ones gettingtaken advantage of lol.

I bet that I could take a picture of the SAME game on the SAME system and on the SAME TV and label on picture as PS3 and the other as 360 and people would be arguing about differences that don't even exist.

Because that's basically what lens of truth does as the differences are so insignicant they arn't even noticible in the first place.

That's why whenever I see a multiplat comparison thread I just ignore it as I just know that there is nothing intelligent going on int there...

I REALLY find the "PS3 vs 360 multiplat lens of truth" threads to be the dumbest...

1.I seriosly doubt thatanyone sees any difference in the first place with thier nakedeyein the 90% of multiplats that come out. If there was no Lens of truth sites fanboys wouldn't be arguing about them.

2.The differences in multiplats are SO small and insignificant that no sane person would care about it or notice it. Come on... does anyone REALLY care if their game has a small extra leaf on a tree or a2% invisible frame rate difference, I seriously doubt it. All lens of truth does is just nipticks things to exploit fanboys for money, the fanboys are the ones getting getting taken advantage of lol.

So yes that's why whenever I see a multiplat comparison thread I just ignore it. I bet that I could take a picture of the SAME game on the SAME system and on the SAME TV and label on picture as PS3 and the other as 360 and people would be arguing about differences that don't even exist.

Because that's basically what lens of truth does as the differences are so insignicant they arn't even noticible in the first place..

ShadowMoses900

You know what ShadowMoses?

You're aaalllright...;)

[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I feel ya man...

I tend to only spend about 1 or 2 hours at most on GS at a time as I just have better things to do. I post here thinking that mabey someone will ask for help on a game or wants to talk about some cool new game coming out ect... All that is cool but man GS is simply turning into a fanboy rant place. I tend to post in the PS3 section because I thought I would get away from the fanboys but even they somehow find a way into that section and ruin the place.

Like for instance I was in a PS3 section thread talking to someone whowanted to buy Red Dead Redemptoinfor their PS3 after they played it at their friends house on their 360, and then a bunch of PS3 fanboys jumped in and yelled at the guy because he played on a 360... I was like "what's wrong with everyone"

I had a similar thing happen to me personally, someone posted a question about needing help with a quest in Oblivion in the 360 section and I jumped into the thread and gave the guy advice on the mission. But then several people "attacked" me because I play on PS3. I explained to them that the thread was about Oblivion and I can help the guy, but they didn't care.

And yes who cares if PS3 sold 30 million and 360 sold 31 million (I don't know the actual numbers just an example)

30 million is STILL alot! That means there are plenty of people to play with on both systems

Overall I am getting pretty sick of this place....

ShadowMoses900

This place is great when you want an intelligent debate or discussion with mature people but sadly they are few in number these days.

I can't be arsed wasting my time arguing about sub-hd resolutions, who has more or better exclusives and why the CoD series is a bad game etc.

I can slowly feel my IQ level dropping every time I stupidly enter one of those threads.

I REALLY find the "PS3 vs 360 multiplat lens of truth" threads to be the dumbest...

1.I seriosly doubt that anyone sees any difference in the first place with thier naked eye in the 90% of multiplats that come out. If there was no Lens of truth sites fanboys wouldn't be arguing about them.

2.The differences in multiplats are SO small and insignificant that no sane person would care about it or notice it. Come on... does anyone REALLY care if their game has a small extra leaf on a tree or a 2% invisible frame rate difference, I seriously doubt it. All lens of truth does is just nipticks things to exploit fanboys for money, the fanboys are the ones gettingtaken advantage of lol.

I bet that I could take a picture of the SAME game on the SAME system and on the SAME TV and label on picture as PS3 and the other as 360 and people would be arguing about differences that don't even exist.

Because that's basically what lens of truth does as the differences are so insignicant they arn't even noticible in the first place.

That's why whenever I see a multiplat comparison thread I just ignore it as I just know that there is nothing intelligent going on int there...

Pretty much, when I buy Multi-plats I get it on the system that has better controls for that type of game, not the one that has 5 extra leaves on a tree.

Unless if you own stock or are a shareholder in one of these companies than I don't see any reason to get excited if a multiplat sells 10 more copies on 360 or PS3. How does it benefit you in anyway whatsoever? Do these corporations mail you a paycheck every couple weeks or something? Who cares if one system is "winning" by about 200 more units or not? Both sales are pretty neck and neck so it's not like you won't have any problems finding people to play with or anything like that.

Seriously, I have seen arguments from people saying that MS or Sony made X amount of $$$ last year or something... lol why do you know so much about this and how does it affect you personaly in anyway? Another thing I don't understand is the whole 1st place 2nd place thing, I really have no idea what they are talking about but for some reason people say they are happy to be 2nd place or 3rd place which makes no sense...isn't 1st place the place that you want to be at in a race? Sorry but I honestly have no idea what they are refering to when they talk about the 2nd place or 3rd or 4th or whatever place thing..

All I know is that I bought my system and I enjoy it, just like you buy yours and enjoy it too. And both these companieskeep selling units and there are plenty of peoplewho own the system you bought soit's not likeyou will have a hard timefinding people to play with online or anything.Neither of these companies are going to go out of business and they will both make new systems later anyways.

I play games not sales....

ShadowMoses900

Only fanboys do but real gamers don't.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I REALLY find the "PS3 vs 360 multiplat lens of truth" threads to be the dumbest...

1.I seriosly doubt thatanyone sees any difference in the first place with thier nakedeyein the 90% of multiplats that come out. If there was no Lens of truth sites fanboys wouldn't be arguing about them.

2.The differences in multiplats are SO small and insignificant that no sane person would care about it or notice it. Come on... does anyone REALLY care if their game has a small extra leaf on a tree or a2% invisible frame rate difference, I seriously doubt it. All lens of truth does is just nipticks things to exploit fanboys for money, the fanboys are the ones getting getting taken advantage of lol.

So yes that's why whenever I see a multiplat comparison thread I just ignore it. I bet that I could take a picture of the SAME game on the SAME system and on the SAME TV and label on picture as PS3 and the other as 360 and people would be arguing about differences that don't even exist.

Because that's basically what lens of truth does as the differences are so insignicant they arn't even noticible in the first place..

balfe1990

You know what ShadowMoses?

You're aaalllright...;)

lol you are too man, thanks ;)

Because someone needs to aim for 2nd place.

TrapJak

the wii is firmly in second place already. i don't see how the ps3 or 360 could possibly catch up.

[QUOTE="TrapJak"]

Because someone needs to aim for 2nd place.

CaseyWegner

the wii is firmly in second place already. i don't see how the ps3 or 360 could possibly catch up.

Sales is what both consoles are competing for, which makes it part of SW, and therefore part of what people find interesting about SW.IronBass

Not everyone.

Sales is what both consoles are competing for, which makes it part of SW, and therefore part of what people find interesting about SW.IronBass

games do beat out sales whenever the two are compared.

[QUOTE="IronBass"]Sales is what both consoles are competing for, which makes it part of SW, and therefore part of what people find interesting about SW.CaseyWegner

games do beat out sales whenever the two are compared.

[QUOTE="IronBass"]Sales is what both consoles are competing for, which makes it part of SW, and therefore part of what people find interesting about SW.balfe1990

Not everyone.

Not everyone.balfe1990

games do beat out sales whenever the two are compared.CaseyWegner

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"]Sales is what both consoles are competing for, which makes it part of SW, and therefore part of what people find interesting about SW.KC_Hokie

games do beat out sales whenever the two are compared.

and i'm sure games would also beat out game sales here.

[QUOTE="balfe1990"]Not everyone.IronBass

games do beat out sales whenever the two are compared.CaseyWegner

that would be the very forum you are posting on.

Of course not everyone. I can't think of a single thing *everyone* is interesting in, much less console sales. IronBass

I don't mind the odd update on where the consoles stand in terms of numbers but threads excitedly discussing these numbers in minute detail on a daily basis is too much.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

games do beat out sales whenever the two are compared.

CaseyWegner

and i'm sure games would also beat out game sales here.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Game sales is where the real money is made not console sales.KC_Hokie

and i'm sure games would also beat out game sales here.

Like Alan Wake, shame they dropped the series.

that would be the very forum you are posting on.CaseyWegner

[QUOTE="Heil68"]When you have no games, it's all you have left. ABCarmine

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

and i'm sure games would also beat out game sales here.

ABCarmine

Like Alan Wake, shame they dropped the series.

I should add the series isn't done yet. There is another chapter coming to XBLA.

It's pretty lame.

"Looks at me.I'm in second place!!!"

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]that would be the very forum you are posting on.IronBass

we have voted. now tell me when the most action occurs...when sales numbers are announced or whenan important game is reviewed? we rarely have to make a stickied sales thread to contain the chaos.

[QUOTE="ABCarmine"][QUOTE="Heil68"]When you have no games, it's all you have left. Heil68

There have been 6 XBLA titles released that have been A or above, so the 360 is doing Bad, but not "abysmal"

high sales =/= quality gaming, or quality forum reading material

And the Wii 3X as many games as the 360 does thus far, so that means the 360 is just beyond abysmal. Heil68

Yes, you've mentioned that once or twice.

You can quieten down now.

we have votedCaseyWegner

Oh, you're talking about the metagame winner and all that. Haha, I wasn't talking about that, I was talking about what people seem to be interested based on the threads that are constantly made; the metagame winner is definitely a different thing.

]now tell me when the most action occurs...when sales numbers are announced or whenan important game is reviewed? we rarely have to make a stickied sales thread to contain the chaos.CaseyWegner

I think the chaos happens because of the element of surprise that reviews have. Sales are far less surprising, they've followed a more or less constant pattern for years.