Why do people consider Zelda: TP a flop?

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#51 Silverbond
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If it's hyped "AAAA" or "AAAAE" it can be a flop if it doesn't get that score.

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I'm telling you, no AAA game is ever a flop.

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#52 C-Lee
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[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="C-Lee"]It was hyped AAA, even AAAA.... It got AA It's a flop. That doesn't mean it's a bad game. /thread.

Just means it's a flop on Gamespot, which doesn't mean much . Everyone else thought the game was brilliant, so who you going to believe. Gamespot or Gamerankings with an average score of 94.5? lol!!

Were on a Gamespot forum.... I don't agree with the score, and I do belive its an AAA game, but it flopped on GS.
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#53 GunSmith1_basic
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this reminds me of that thread about why we have the 0.5 increment system. Everybody says TP flopped and laughed at it and yet it was only 0.2 away from being AAA and not a flop. It's stupid. Personally I feel TP is one of the top games out there, and GS was kind of out of line considering how seriously everyone takes the AA versus AAA debate
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#54 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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It flopped as a Zelda game, but it is still one of the best games this generation.
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#55 tomarlyn
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this reminds me of that thread about why we have the 0.5 increment system. Everybody says TP flopped and laughed at it and yet it was only 0.2 away from being AAA and not a flop. It's stupid. Personally I feel TP is one of the top games out there, and GS was kind of out of line considering how seriously everyone takes the AA versus AAA debateGunSmith1_basic
Actually it was a great move. It showed dev's that Gamecube ports with sloppy controls won't get a free pass.
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#56 BrunoBRS
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people thought it was going to be the god of all games, when it was just solid (and my second favorite). that's why. and this is why nintendo only starts showing their games a year or less from release. which explains why their 2011 lineup seems so empty.
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#57 lawlessx
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The game flopped on here with an 8.5 i believe when sheep really expected it to get an 9.5 or 10 (no..im not kidding)
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#58 GunSmith1_basic
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[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]this reminds me of that thread about why we have the 0.5 increment system. Everybody says TP flopped and laughed at it and yet it was only 0.2 away from being AAA and not a flop. It's stupid. Personally I feel TP is one of the top games out there, and GS was kind of out of line considering how seriously everyone takes the AA versus AAA debatetomarlyn
Actually it was a great move. It showed dev's that Gamecube ports with sloppy controls won't get a free pass.

I don't know anything about the GC version of the game. I had a Wii, I bought the game, and the game was incredible. It had issues but it's still an incredible game. The tacked on motion controls were not necessary but they were fun to play around with. If gamespot went out of their way to punish nintendo by dropping TP just below the AAA mark then that's just a political BS move
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#59 GunSmith1_basic
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The game flopped on here with an 8.5 i believe when sheep really expected it to get an 9.5 or 10 (no..im not kidding)lawlessx
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#60 BrunoBRS
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The game flopped on here with an 8.5 i believe when sheep really expected it to get an 9.5 or 10 (no..im not kidding)lawlessx
they were expecting a freaking 15/10. and the correct score is "8.9 on gamecube, 8.8 on wii". i think jeff didn't like the motion or something like it, so he deducted a .1 from the wii score.
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#61 GunSmith1_basic
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The game flopped on here with an 8.5 i believe when sheep really expected it to get an 9.5 or 10 (no..im not kidding)lawlessx
if the boss fights weren't so easy it should have got a 9.5 out of 10
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#62 bobcheeseball
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]The game flopped on here with an 8.5 i believe when sheep really expected it to get an 9.5 or 10 (no..im not kidding)BrunoBRS
they were expecting a freaking 15/10. and the correct score is "8.9 on gamecube, 8.8 on wii". i think jeff didn't like the motion or something like it, so he deducted a .1 from the wii score.

No I think the Sound score was lower because of the really crappy Wiimote speaker :P

Had to turn that off the first time I heard that junk :lol:

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#63 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]The game flopped on here with an 8.5 i believe when sheep really expected it to get an 9.5 or 10 (no..im not kidding)BrunoBRS
they were expecting a freaking 15/10. and the correct score is "8.9 on gamecube, 8.8 on wii". i think jeff didn't like the motion or something like it, so he deducted a .1 from the wii score.

yeah the hype for that game was completely through the roof. And the backlash that followed after the review turned this place into one hell of a field day for the mods :lol:
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#64 gamer620
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Because after years of delays and unbelievable hype it turned out to be Ocarina of Time with better graphics.

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So in your opinion more of the same (in this case, arguably the best game ever made) is disappointing?
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#65 Vaasman
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]The game flopped on here with an 8.5 i believe when sheep really expected it to get an 9.5 or 10 (no..im not kidding)GunSmith1_basic
if the boss fights weren't so easy it should have got a 9.5 out of 10

Wasn't just the boss fights. Right up until Ganon, the game is a complete cakewalk. Even that trials dungeon in the desert wasn't a big deal. The puzzles in the dungeons weren't really difficult, and didn't live up to something like the water temple in OOT, or basically any one MM's dungeons. Didn't get stuck once. I doubt I ever even died playing it.

That said, I played through the gamecube version twice. Liked it for what it was, even though it didn't wow me as much as other zelda games.

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#67 DillonShwing
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[QUOTE="DillonShwing"]

Because after years of delays and unbelievable hype it turned out to be Ocarina of Time with better graphics.

gamer620

So in your opinion more of the same (in this case, arguably the best game ever made) is disappointing?

I think your misunderstanding me. Zelda OOT is probably my favorite game of all time (tied with TES 4 Oblivion) but in almost 10 years nintendo didnt advance the series at all. I had already done everything in TP before in OOT 10 years earlier. So yeah that was really disappointing. Im now starting to realize that all nintendo does with Zelda is recycle everything we have all done before. For that reason, Zelda is more or less dead to me. Ocarina of Time and Majoras Mask will always be some of my favorite games but its really hard for me to get excited for a new Zelda when I know its gonna be the same thing that I've already done.

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#68 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]this reminds me of that thread about why we have the 0.5 increment system. Everybody says TP flopped and laughed at it and yet it was only 0.2 away from being AAA and not a flop. It's stupid. Personally I feel TP is one of the top games out there, and GS was kind of out of line considering how seriously everyone takes the AA versus AAA debateGunSmith1_basic
Actually it was a great move. It showed dev's that Gamecube ports with sloppy controls won't get a free pass.

I don't know anything about the GC version of the game. I had a Wii, I bought the game, and the game was incredible. It had issues but it's still an incredible game. The tacked on motion controls were not necessary but they were fun to play around with. If gamespot went out of their way to punish nintendo by dropping TP just below the AAA mark then that's just a political BS move

I think many people will come to realise how bad Wii TP's mechanics were when Skyward Sword hits.
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#69 HoolaHoopMan
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Because it was a rehashed poor Zelda game. By searching gamerankings you'll only find how many sites overrate what should have been a B game.
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#70 tagyhag
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Why are people acting like SW Hype is a new thing? :lol:
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#71 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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Didn't meet HYPE.
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#72 Loco_Live
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▲ It was hyped AAAA. It recieved an 8.8. You tell me. ▲

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#73 Vesica_Prime
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It was hyped as a AAA game at least and it got a AA score. This rule doesn't only apply to Zelda but every other hyped game as well.

I personally think it's one of the best games this generation.

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#74 SPYDER0416
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You must be new here,

Hi! Welcome to System Wars, where trolls and anger awaitthrough a hellpit masked in a videogame discussion forum.

I'm referring to SW, not GS as a whole.

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#75 MrJack3690
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[QUOTE="MrJack3690"]

Because even though a flop is defined as a complete failure On SW it's a flop because it was hyped at AAA (9.0 - 9.9) and got an 8.9 GC and 8.8 Wii

So really, it is not a complete failure, therefore not a flop, but everyone on here will say otherwise. Because words don't mean what they're really supposed to on here. And by SW standards that is a flop for not meeting hype

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Did it get hyped AAA? Yes

Did it live up to the hype? No

Therefore its a flop...Doesnt matter what a flop is defined as. In GS it was a flop

If you read my post that's exactly what I just said, no need to restate it :P

I said "Because even though a flop is defined as a complete failure On SW it's a flop because it was hyped at AAA (9.0 - 9.9) and got an 8.9 GC and 8.8 Wii" and also "by SW standards that is a flop for not meeting hype"

just also said I don't agree with it, but yeah that's exactly what I said

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#76 Heil68
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Because it flopped? Embrace the flop dude.
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#77 chocolate1325
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Because people thought it was gonna be better than OOT.

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#78 mitu123
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We don't use that here, only GS for ownage, and it got AA instead of AAA and caused many bad and lol things to happen in 2006.

I joined a few months before it came out.XD

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#79 DivineSword  Moderator
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Games that don't score what they originally were hype is a flop in System Wars.