Why do people dislike TLoU's shooting?

This game is like HItman, Manhunt, Splinter Cell, etc Your gun is your last resort. I used the bow and arrow more times than a gun to keep the stealth going. I have played HItman Absolution and the original 3. Once I learned to play it the gun was the last thing to use. thewickedgamer

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[QUOTE="thewickedgamer"]This game is like HItman, Manhunt, Splinter Cell, etc Your gun is your last resort. I used the bow and arrow more times than a gun to keep the stealth going. I have played HItman Absolution and the original 3. Once I learned to play it the gun was the last thing to use. thewickedgamer

I did that for most of the game, but near the end you don't really have much of a choice, it gets hard.

What difficulty were you playing on? On Hard, the AI is much better and more difficult. From watching Normal gameplay, it seems like the game was made to be played on Hard rather than Normal because AI is a lot more responsive (in fair ways) on Hard difficulty. I can imagine Survivor difficulty will be a lot more frustrating though :P.

Cos it's cumbersome and unresponsive. It gets better later in the game but at the start it's pretty sloppy

seanmcloughlin

I met someone on another forum who was talkign about how the whole game was subpar, with the gunplay being "clunky". It was interesting, given after some conversation they revealed they only played the first couple hours of the game.

lx_theo

Lmao, this seems to be the case.

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I did that for most of the game, but near the end you don't really have much of a choice, it gets hard.

XVision84

What difficulty were you playing on? On Hard, the AI is much better and more difficult. From watching Normal gameplay, it seems like the game was made to be played on Hard rather than Normal because AI is a lot more responsive (in fair ways) on Hard difficulty. I can imagine Survivor difficulty will be a lot more frustrating though :P.

Cos it's cumbersome and unresponsive. It gets better later in the game but at the start it's pretty sloppy

seanmcloughlin

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Cos it's cumbersome and unresponsive. It gets better later in the game but at the start it's pretty sloppy

jg4xchamp

Which backs up the reviews that said it was bad having you in scenarios fighting waves of enemies, it highlights the faults in the gunplay

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Cos it's cumbersome and unresponsive. It gets better later in the game but at the start it's pretty sloppy

seanmcloughlin

Which backs up the reviews that said it was bad having you in scenarios fighting waves of enemies, it highlights the faults in the gunplay

Because it's their opinion?foxhound_fox

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] This in combination with any scenario where you are forced to fight your way out makes those specific stretches of the game unsatisfying and just overall tedious. For the rest of the game it's mostly a non issue since you should be sneaking around all day anyway(It's more or less a stealth game, action/stealth if you will). But the moments where it's kill or be killed, man that gun sway is more of a hassle than adding anything of value to the gameplay. jg4xchamp

Which backs up the reviews that said it was bad having you in scenarios fighting waves of enemies, it highlights the faults in the gunplay

Fvcking hated that section, that shit with analog sticks was so damn tedious

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Cos it's cumbersome and unresponsive. It gets better later in the game but at the start it's pretty sloppy

Chris_Williams

lol this sounds like the lair argument all over again

..."But... its SUPPOSED to be insanely hard to control a dragon!!!"

Assuming this is true. Idk cause i haven't played it yet.

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Which backs up the reviews that said it was bad having you in scenarios fighting waves of enemies, it highlights the faults in the gunplay

seanmcloughlin

Fvcking hated that section, that shit with analog sticks was so damn tedious

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Cos it's cumbersome and unresponsive. It gets better later in the game but at the start it's pretty sloppy

VendettaRed07

lol this sounds like the lair argument all over again

..."But... its SUPPOSED to be insanely hard to control a dragon!!!"

Assuming this is true. Idk cause i haven't played it yet.

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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] I didn't know Joel was a expert with gunslx_theo

lol this sounds like the lair argument all over again

..."But... its SUPPOSED to be insanely hard to control a dragon!!!"

Assuming this is true. Idk cause i haven't played it yet.

no one does... shooting is great and the only current gen tps with better shooting i can think of is max pain 3silversix_

I think there's some sort of auto-aim on that messes up my shots. Not sure if you can turn it off.
So far I just kill everything without shooting.
(Still in the first few hours of the game.)

I think there's some sort of auto-aim on that messes up my shots. Not sure if you can turn it off.
So far I just kill everything without shooting.
(Still in the first few hours of the game.)

KungfuKitten

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Cos it's cumbersome and unresponsive. It gets better later in the game but at the start it's pretty sloppy

Chris_Williams

Bitch, bitch, bitch.  You can never satisfy people, if Joel was proficient with all the guns they would be moaning that there's no upgrades.  Gun upgrades are a reward.  It's called suspension of belief.  I enjoy games where I have to work for my payoff, not have it handed to me on a silver platter from the get-go.  I don't know how anyone can have fun when they're constantly nitpicking over the dumbest things.

Me love the shooting in TLOU.

Uncharted gunplay was terrible, so I have no big expectation for TLoU is that area. But from what I've seen it's ok. 

people dislike the shooting? First ive heard about thisultraking

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Cos it's cumbersome and unresponsive. It gets better later in the game but at the start it's pretty sloppy

Kaze_no_Mirai

Isn't that the point? Your not some trained spec ops guy with top of the line hardware.. Your a survivor with no real training using salvaged civilian weaponry..

The shooting isnt the problem it's the crappy useless melee combat QTE crap lol.

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Cos it's cumbersome and unresponsive. It gets better later in the game but at the start it's pretty sloppy

sSubZerOo

Isn't that the point? Your not some trained spec ops guy with top of the line hardware.. Your a survivor with no real training using salvaged civilian weaponry..

I had no issues with it whatsoever.

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[QUOTE="Kaze_no_Mirai"] He is isn't he?seanmcloughlin

Seriously though, people have been bitching that the shooting sucks and I don't see it. It's better than Max Payne 3.

Ok it's fine but it's nowhere near as good as Max Payne 3's gunplay. MP3 has THE best thrid person shooting

I think this is where some are getting the idea that people are bitching about the gameplay. If it isn't praised to high heaven, they are obviously bitching.