Why do people say that Uncharted "isn't a shooter"?

I don't understand this. Shooting is the main part of the game. You get a gun, point it at the enemy, and shoot them. Adding some half-assed platforming and puzzles doesn't take way the shooting aspects.

Half Life 2 has puzzles and driving sections, but we still call that a shooter.

So what's up with this? Is it embarassing to be called a shooter or something?

It's story driven with a more action/ adventure appeal. It has puzzles and whatnot plus the multiplayer isn't legit. We don't consider it a shooter the same way we don't consider Mass Effect 3, Red Dead Redemption, or Max Payne 3 a shooter.

It's a shooter that's it.

It's like when people that call Mass Effect an RPG. :o

People seem to care when a game is called a particular genre, those people are just insecure and shouldn't give a sh*t.

It's story driven with a more action/ adventure appeal. It has puzzles and whatnot plus the multiplayer isn't legit. We don't consider it a shooter the same way we don't consider Mass Effect 3, Red Dead Redemption, or Max Payne 3 a shooter.

MicrosoftRules

It's story driven with a more action/ adventure appeal. It has puzzles and whatnot plus the multiplayer isn't legit. We don't consider it a shooter the same way we don't consider Mass Effect 3, Red Dead Redemption, or Max Payne 3 a shooter.

MicrosoftRules

It's story driven with a more action/ adventure appeal. It has puzzles and whatnot plus the multiplayer isn't legit. We don't consider it a shooter the same way we don't consider Mass Effect 3, Red Dead Redemption, or Max Payne 3 a shooter.

MicrosoftRules

It's story driven with a more action/ adventure appeal. It has puzzles and whatnot plus the multiplayer isn't legit. We don't consider it a shooter the same way we don't consider Mass Effect 3, Red Dead Redemption, or Max Payne 3 a shooter.

MicrosoftRules

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It's story driven with a more action/ adventure appeal. It has puzzles and whatnot plus the multiplayer isn't legit. We don't consider it a shooter the same way we don't consider Mass Effect 3, Red Dead Redemption, or Max Payne 3 a shooter.

jg4xchamp

No; each has their own identity. Max Payne 3 is referred to as bullet-time or slow-mo, Mass Effect 3 is considered RPG (as you role play by choosing classes in the beginning), Red Dead Redemption is free roam.

It is a shooter. What do you do 90% of the time you are playing Uncharted? Shooting THINGS!

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It's story driven with a more action/ adventure appeal. It has puzzles and whatnot plus the multiplayer isn't legit. We don't consider it a shooter the same way we don't consider Mass Effect 3, Red Dead Redemption, or Max Payne 3 a shooter.

Nike_Air

Sorry about that, it has good multiplayer. I just don't believe people buy it for multiplayer as it is truly story driven.

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It's story driven with a more action/ adventure appeal. It has puzzles and whatnot plus the multiplayer isn't legit. We don't consider it a shooter the same way we don't consider Mass Effect 3, Red Dead Redemption, or Max Payne 3 a shooter.

MicrosoftRules

No; each has their own identity. Max Payne 3 is referred to as bullet-time or slow-mo, Mass Effect 3 is considered RPG (as you role play by choosing classes in the beginning), Red Dead Redemption is free roam.

It is a shooter. What do you do 90% of the time you are playing Uncharted? Shooting THINGS!

ShadowDeathX

I don't see your point as you shoot things in adventure, free roam, and bullet-time games as well. I don't think shooting alone makes a genre, but more of how it plays. I wouldn't consider L.A. Noire a shooter, would you?

Its a third person shooter. Fact.

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] lol all those games are action games. jg4xchamp

No; each has their own identity. Max Payne 3 is referred to as bullet-time or slow-mo, Mass Effect 3 is considered RPG (as you role play by choosing classes in the beginning), Red Dead Redemption is free roam.

It is a shooter. What do you do 90% of the time you are playing Uncharted? Shooting THINGS!

ShadowDeathX

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="MicrosoftRules"]

No; each has their own identity. Max Payne 3 is referred to as bullet-time or slow-mo, Mass Effect 3 is considered RPG (as you role play by choosing classes in the beginning), Red Dead Redemption is free roam.

soulitane

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] lol all those games are action games. jg4xchamp

No; each has their own identity. Max Payne 3 is referred to as bullet-time or slow-mo, Mass Effect 3 is considered RPG (as you role play by choosing classes in the beginning), Red Dead Redemption is free roam.

I think you're beginning to get it. We call Dead Space survival/horror and most of us won't consider Alan Wake a shooter either, more survival (that's just how it plays to us).

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It is a shooter. What do you do 90% of the time you are playing Uncharted? Shooting THINGS!

inb4uall

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]

It is a shooter. What do you do 90% of the time you are playing Uncharted? Shooting THINGS!

inb4uall

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="MicrosoftRules"]

No; each has their own identity. Max Payne 3 is referred to as bullet-time or slow-mo, Mass Effect 3 is considered RPG (as you role play by choosing classes in the beginning), Red Dead Redemption is free roam.

MicrosoftRules

I think you're beginning to get it. We call Dead Space survival/horror and most of us won't consider Alan Wake a shooter either, more survival (that's just how it plays to us).

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It is a shooter. What do you do 90% of the time you are playing Uncharted? Shooting THINGS!

jg4xchamp

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="MicrosoftRules"]

No; each has their own identity. Max Payne 3 is referred to as bullet-time or slow-mo, Mass Effect 3 is considered RPG (as you role play by choosing classes in the beginning), Red Dead Redemption is free roam.

soulitane

Because games on the internet have attatched a negative mindset in regards to shooters. So they want to distance their favourite franchises from it one way or the other.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="inb4uall"]so what do you cal GTA then a shooter? no its sandbox/open world

inb4uall

The only thing I wouldn't call a shooter would be Mirror's Edge since the focus is clearly not even on shooting things. Most people don't even know ME has guns.

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] Gimmicks and structure doesn't change the fact that the primary source of gameplay in those games is combat, and the primary form of combat in those game is shooting sh1t. Admittedly sure RDR falls into another subgenre like sandbox games(GTA, Saints, Ass Creed), but mechanics wise it's a shooter inside of a sandbox environment. The Mass Effect argument I'd rather avoid like the plague, and nothing about slow-mo would make Max Payne 3 any less of a shooter. By that logic FEAR isn't a FPS.jg4xchamp

I think you're beginning to get it. We call Dead Space survival/horror and most of us won't consider Alan Wake a shooter either, more survival (that's just how it plays to us).

I guess action would be a better term then, either way we won't consider them shooters.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="inb4uall"]so what do you cal GTA then a shooter? no its sandbox/open world

inb4uall

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="MicrosoftRules"]

I think you're beginning to get it. We call Dead Space survival/horror and most of us won't consider Alan Wake a shooter either, more survival (that's just how it plays to us).

MicrosoftRules

I guess action would be a better term then, either way we won't consider them shooters.

Because games on the internet have attatched a negative mindset in regards to shooters. So they want to distance their favourite franchises from it one way or the other.

GD1551

No, no. It really has to do with whether it is multiplayer driven or story driven, that's really how I think most people see it. I like both types of games, but I still won't consider certain ones a shooter depending on how I feel they play.

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] Except those 2 games are still action game with a horror aesthetic. Resource management and limited supplies isn't really a thing in either game so I fail to see them as survival games, and the horror side of things is entirely presentation and tone. The gameplay is still that of an action game. Acting like it isn't is just being silly. jg4xchamp

I guess action would be a better term then, either way we won't consider them shooters.

How? I can play through Mass Effect 3 and beat it using Vanguard without shooting a single weapon. It's a role-playing game hence the fact that I choose a role to play in the beginning.

No, no. It really has to do with whether it is multiplayer driven

MicrosoftRules

I wonder how long it will be until LoosingEnds pops in to say "It's not a shooter; it's a 5 hour movie." :P

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I guess action would be a better term then, either way we won't consider them shooters.

MicrosoftRules

How? I can play through Mass Effect 3 and beat it using Vanguard without shooting a single weapon. It's a role-playing game hence the fact that I choose a role to play in the beginning.

You can go through Halo CE without shooting your gun and just meleeing aliens to death, guess it's a brawler.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="soulitane"] I honestly cannot fathom how Max Payne could fall into any other genre than shooter :?soulitane

I may give you Max Payne 3, but you both purposely the weakest to pick at. Max Payne 3 has a big emphasis on story with tacked on multiplayer and the people that I play with will just call it bullet-time as that is the central theme of the game.

[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] Apparently bullet time and slow mo is a genre nowMicrosoftRules

I may give you Max Payne 3, but you both purposely the weakest to pick at. Max Payne 3 has a big emphasis on story with tacked on multiplayer and the people that I play with will just call it bullet-time as that is the central theme of the game.

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I guess action would be a better term then, either way we won't consider them shooters.

MicrosoftRules

How? I can play through Mass Effect 3 and beat it using Vanguard without shooting a single weapon. It's a role-playing game hence the fact that I choose a role to play in the beginning.

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] Shooters are nothing more than action games. It's a glorified sub genre. and no matter how you spin it all those games are tied to their shooting, and how the game was developed around the shooting. Killing things and taking part in the games set pieces tend to be where majority of the satisfaction comes from these games. tagyhag

How? I can play through Mass Effect 3 and beat it using Vanguard without shooting a single weapon. It's a role-playing game hence the fact that I choose a role to play in the beginning.

You can go through Halo CE without shooting your gun and just meleeing aliens to death, guess it's a brawler.

That's not the same.

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] Shooters are nothing more than action games. It's a glorified sub genre. and no matter how you spin it all those games are tied to their shooting, and how the game was developed around the shooting. Killing things and taking part in the games set pieces tend to be where majority of the satisfaction comes from these games. jg4xchamp

How? I can play through Mass Effect 3 and beat it using Vanguard without shooting a single weapon. It's a role-playing game hence the fact that I choose a role to play in the beginning.

Okay.. How is Mass Effect an action game now? It's an RPG as that is the central theme of the game, you role-play.

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How? I can play through Mass Effect 3 and beat it using Vanguard without shooting a single weapon. It's a role-playing game hence the fact that I choose a role to play in the beginning.

MicrosoftRules

Okay.. How is Mass Effect an action game now? It's an RPG as that is the central theme of the game, you role-play.

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[QUOTE="soulitane"] Starting to sound like metal if people want to add meaningless subgenres :Psoulitane

I may give you Max Payne 3, but you both purposely the weakest to pick at. Max Payne 3 has a big emphasis on story with tacked on multiplayer and the people that I play with will just call it bullet-time as that is the central theme of the game.

It's not an offical genre (exactly), but that's how we see it. I'm not trying to say that this is anything other than culture and how we respond to games. Sheesh.

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How? I can play through Mass Effect 3 and beat it using Vanguard without shooting a single weapon. It's a role-playing game hence the fact that I choose a role to play in the beginning.

MicrosoftRules

Okay.. How is Mass Effect an action game now? It's an RPG as that is the central theme of the game, you role-play.

You play a role in pretty much EVERY game. :|

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I may give you Max Payne 3, but you both purposely the weakest to pick at. Max Payne 3 has a big emphasis on story with tacked on multiplayer and the people that I play with will just call it bullet-time as that is the central theme of the game.

MicrosoftRules

It's not an offical genre (exactly), but that's how we see it. I'm not trying to say that this is anything other than culture and how we respond to games. Sheesh.

By the way, would that make crysis's genre; superly awesome suit with powers?soulitane

I'm done. I'm talking to several people at once who only want to mock. I tried to help you understand how we see the games, but you are stuck in your mindset of official terms or otherwise different ideas than ours. This is just how we see the games, it is how we view them.

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How? I can play through Mass Effect 3 and beat it using Vanguard without shooting a single weapon. It's a role-playing game hence the fact that I choose a role to play in the beginning.

MicrosoftRules

You can go through Halo CE without shooting your gun and just meleeing aliens to death, guess it's a brawler.

That's not the same.

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[QUOTE="soulitane"] Show me somewhere where someone calls the genre it is in bullet time, and not some random post on a forum.soulitane

It's not an offical genre (exactly), but that's how we see it. I'm not trying to say that this is anything other than culture and how we respond to games. Sheesh.

Everyone who doesn't consider certain games shooters. I'm not the only one who thinks this. Look at the title and read through the posts from where this discussion originally started. Some people just don't consider certain games with one idea of gun in hand or not.

shooting is easily the worst part of those games. idk why they make you do it so much.mems_1224