Why do people say that Uncharted "isn't a shooter"?

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]shooting is easily the worst part of those games. idk why they make you do it so much.jg4xchamp

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]shooting is easily the worst part of those games. idk why they make you do it so much.lhughey

It's a shooter that's it.

DeadMan1290

yes its a shooter.

Shooting is the main part of the game.

UnrealLegend

In the 1st and 2nd I would agree but in the third one I could swear I spent more time on meelee combat then shooting seriously. Will you call Uncharted 3 a fighter? The game is more of an action/adventure game. Even though shooting is a big part of it you spent alot of time at platforming sections and puzzles. Would you compare it to gears or vanquish where you spent 95% of the time shooting stuff? I now I wouldnt... Uncharted, in average is like 50% shooting, 30% platforming and 20% puzzles. Hardly a shooter to me... but thats me

the puzzle and platforming side of things are designed for dimwits.jg4xchamp

Platforming is simple but effective and isnt as mechanic as people make it seem. Its no Assassin's Creed where you hold a button and you climb a building.

And the puzzles in U1 and U2 were easy yes, but the ones in U3 actually impressed me and made me scratch my head for awhile. Oh, and before you say something in the line of "nah, you're just dumb" have in mind I'm not really a noob when it comes to puzzle games. I beat plenty of old school survival horror games known for complex puzzles (old RE, SH, Fatal Frame, etc etc) and this gen I beat machinarium, braid, limbo, world of goo, etc etc so I can safelly say I know wtf I'm talking about when it comes to puzzles. Have in mind I'm not saying U3 puzzles were as complex as the examples I just gave only that, this time, they were actually clever and not made for "dimwits"

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]the puzzle and platforming side of things are designed for dimwits.4dr1el

Platforming is simple but effective and isnt as mechanic as people make it seem. Its no Assassin's Creed where you hold a button and you climb a building.

And the puzzles in U1 and U2 were easy yes, but the ones in U3 actually impressed me and made me scratch my head for awhile. Oh, and before you say something in the line of "nah, you're just dumb" have in mind I'm not really a noob when it comes to puzzle games. I beat plenty of old school survival horror games known for complex puzzles (old RE, SH, Fatal Frame, etc etc) and this gen I beat machinarium, braid, limbo, world of goo, etc etc so I can safelly say I know wtf I'm talking about when it comes to puzzles. Have in mind I'm not saying U3 puzzles were as complex as the examples I just gave only that, this time, they were actually clever and not made for "dimwits"

Yeah Uncharted 3 did a really great job with the puzzles, some of them really made me think and they didn't rely too heavily on giving you answers straight from the journal.

I kind of hated the pacing of them though, you had puzzle after puzzle in the first half, then in the latter half it was almost all combat with a few sparse and simplistic puzzles throughout.

Mass Effect 3 is considered RPG (as you role play by choosing classes in the beginning)MicrosoftRules

[QUOTE="rumbalumba"]

because it's action/adventure.

shooter = Vanquish, Max Payne, Battlefield, Call of Duty. shooter is something where all you do is shoot at things.

would you call Zelda a hack-n-slash? same thing here. just 'cause most of your time on Uncharted is spent on shooting things, doesn't mean it's a shooter as is with Zelda you spend most of your time slicing things doesn't mean it's a hack-n-slash game.

sandbox3d

I dont really think most of my time in Zelda is spent hacking and slashing though. Zelda is about as hack heavy as Metroid Prime is shooter heavy. A big part of the game, sure, but hardly the main attraction.

and most of the time in Uncharted isn't about shooting, either. and when is shooting the main attraction in Uncharted? shooting is a big part of the game as well, just as hack-n-slash in Zelda.

the only difference is that you don't feel that way in Zelda because you don't have a section in Zelda where all you do is slice enemies, but you encounter enemies so often that there's basically not one moment where you're not using your sword, it's just that the enemies are scattered and there's only 2-3 enemies at any given time so you feel like it's not really shooting.

imagine if Uncharted didn't have a shooting section, instead you encounter 1-2 enemies every 5 minutes or so for 10 straight hours instead of encountering 12 enemies ev ery 30 minutes.

It's an action adventure game with shooting elements. You only call a game a third person shooter if that's all you do like in Gears of War.

the puzzle and platforming side of things are designed for dimwits.

jg4xchamp

again, for the nth time, it's called traversal, not platforming. some ignorance goes a long way, it seems.

Crash Bandicoot, Jak and Daxter - platforming

Uncharted - traversal

sorry to say this, but stop living in your own little 90s world. there's been so many games that incorporated traversal mechanics rather than platforming throughout the years.

Yep Uncharted is basically a shooter. Supposedly it's an Action Adventure but since like last gen the genre has derived into ACTIONadventure little by little.

Because having shooter elements doesn't make it a shooter,but having platforming elements and action make it an action platformer game.. Lemmings logic 101..tormentos

It doesn't just have shooting elements. It's the bulk of the game. And quite frankly, the only part of the gameplay that isn't completely mediocre. (Although I will admit the puzzles were surprisingly good in UC3. However, the platforming still stinks.)

Again, should we de-classify HL2 as a shooter because it has other elements to the gameplay?

[QUOTE="UnrealLegend"]

Shooting is the main part of the game.

4dr1el

In the 1st and 2nd I would agree but in the third one I could swear I spent more time on meelee combat then shooting seriously. Will you call Uncharted 3 a fighter? The game is more of an action/adventure game. Even though shooting is a big part of it you spent alot of time at platforming sections and puzzles. Would you compare it to gears or vanquish where you spent 95% of the time shooting stuff? I now I wouldnt... Uncharted, in average is like 50% shooting, 30% platforming and 20% puzzles. Hardly a shooter to me... but thats me

In Uncharted 3 it probably felt like you were brawling more than you actually were because of the AI's tendancy to awkwardly bring up fists in a gunfight. In any case, the shooting is still much more than 50%.

UHUHUHU if it has guns in it it must be a shooter rite

Stevo_the_gamer

LOL @ your sig. Both the Pic and the quote. :lol:

Because shooter is apparently a label that means "bad game" or "lesser game" on this board. And people want to pretend it's more an adventure game, even though if you judged it by adventure game standards it would be a pretty sh1tty game because the puzzle and platforming side of things are designed for dimwits. It's also why Bioware fans never came to terms with the fact that Mass Effect is, has, and will forever be a shooter, a third person shooter, and if you really just want to use a broad term a f*cking action game. Which newsflash is also what Uncharted is. An action game. jg4xchamp

Then Fallout New Vegas isn't an RPG?Stevo_the_gamer

It is to an extent, but it's not a "true" RPG such as Demon's Souls. It is an RPG, but not majorly.ShadowsDemon

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Then Fallout New Vegas isn't an RPG?Zeviander

It is to an extent, but it's not a "true" RPG such as Demon's Souls. It is an RPG, but not majorly.ShadowsDemon