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#1 freshmoney
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Seriously... What is that statement based on? Number of subscribers, available games, layout? Is it about performance? I have a PS3, but I have never actually played an online game.(i.e. COD4 TDM) Is there significant lag on PSN? Is there any data backing up any claims? One major complaint I hear is that you can't have a party on PSN with people playing different games.... That kinda sucks, but truthfully, I'm not gonna be in a party if we are not even playing the same game. What are we suppose to do, just talk? Lame. My biggest gripe with XBL is all the disconnects I experience. MVC2, and WAW for example. I spend more time creating lobbies on MVC2 than I do playing. Just try and get a Zombie match started with a friend in WAW. You will repeatedly get disconnected, and kicked out of games before it finally works. Is that an issue with XBL or the game? Seriously, I don't see the big XBL advantage. It should be free, just like PSN.

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#2 x360owna
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Its better. In terms of what it offers its better.
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#3 videogamesetras
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because it's better in the fact it's all connected to one service
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#4 freshmoney
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What does it offer?? What does XBL have that PSN don't? Of course there will be exclusive content both ways... But what specifically? What's the big deal on either network?

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#5 x360owna
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Sorry, but theres 1294812095+ threads already explaining this, and i just dont feel like it.
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#6 mgkennedy5
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Well, I find that the party/cross chat thing is the only "big" feature that PSN doesn't have comparetively. And I think the "network" differences you notice are because PSN uses dedicated servers which are better than what XBL uses (hosting or P2P?)
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#9 shadow_hosi
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its called an opinion, and here on system wars some people treat those like facts
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They want to justify the money they are spending to play online.

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@360boner Sorry, but I have a life, and I vist this forum less than any other at GS. Furthermore, does the search button actually work here? Your post was worthless...

freshmoney

Because you're the CEO of Mc'Donalds Amirite?

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I think it is due to the fact that there are more users on XBL and that we (XBL gold users) pay for it. I have sit and thought about it many times, and while I haven't used PSN, I don't think it is actually better.
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#13 Chutebox
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In terms of gaming it's the same, but it does have more features.

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#14 freshmoney
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In terms of gaming it's the same, but it does have more features.

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Such as?

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#15 -DrRobotnik-
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Since when is "just talking" lame? You need to socialise more...
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#16 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

In terms of gaming it's the same, but it does have more features.

freshmoney

Such as?

Cross game chat is the big one, I think. I don't know, I don't care about any of the features others like.
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#17 freshmoney
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Since when is "just talking" lame? You need to socialise more...-DrRobotnik-

I do, while playing the same game.... If I want to "socialize more" I'll call my girlfriend. :roll:

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#19 freshmoney
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[QUOTE="freshmoney"]

[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]Since when is "just talking" lame? You need to socialise more...shadow_hosi

I do, while playing the same game.... If I want to "socialize more" I'll call my girlfriend. :roll:

thats all well and good, but how do you call a computer character?

LAAAAAME! Ugh... Has anyone here past puberty yet? Sorry, but I'm not one for games... I'm not in the forum loop. I seriously thought there was gonna be some scientific answers to this question. Excuse me...

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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]Since when is "just talking" lame? You need to socialise more...freshmoney

I do, while playing the same game.... If I want to "socialize more" I'll call my girlfriend. :roll:

Why do you need to be playing the same game? Thats a strange way of thinking, unless ALL you are going to talk about is tactics. Anyway this conversation is going nowhere. XBL is better because its a unified service. It has an infrastructure that allows the community to self govern through gamerzone, rep, prefer/avoid and feedback which is monitored by an internal team. Also has two levels of matchmaking, one based on preference and the other based on the XBL trueskill system. Then theres the functional cross-game invite system. Theres the ability to create private chat sessions. Theres the party system. At the end of the day, its clear XBL was a more thought out service, whereas PSN was something slopped together which Sony have continually added to over the course of the past 2 years.
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@360boner Sorry, but I have a life, and I vist this forum less than any other at GS. Furthermore, does the search button actually work here? Your post was worthless...

freshmoney
I have a life too, and thats why im not gonna spend time telling you, when a search could tell you.
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#24 x360owna
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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"][QUOTE="freshmoney"]

I do, while playing the same game.... If I want to "socialize more" I'll call my girlfriend. :roll:

freshmoney

Why do you need to be playing the same game? Thats a strange way of thinking, unless ALL you are going to talk about is tactics. Anyway this conversation is going nowhere. XBL is better because its a unified service. It has an infrastructure that allows the community to self govern through gamerzone, rep, prefer/avoid and feedback which is monitored by an internal team. Also has two levels of matchmaking, one based on preference and the other based on the XBL trueskill system. Then theres the functional cross-game invite system. Theres the ability to create private chat sessions. Theres the party system. At the end of the day, its clear XBL was a more thought out service, whereas PSN was something slopped together which Sony have continually added to over the course of the past 2 years.

I'm sorry, but I can't take someone with such terrible grammar seriously.... NEXT!

I cant take anyone whos SN is freshmoney seriously. NEXT!
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#28 freshmoney
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LOL, So in other words there is no proof... Just fanboyism. WOW... Learn something new everyday.

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LOL, So in other words there is no proof... Just fanboyism. WOW... Learn something new everyday.

freshmoney

The irony of this is laughable.....

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#30 MikeT072
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It's better because...well...it just is. It's that simple.
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#31 Avian005
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Well, people have different opinions. Some like XBL over PSN, where some like PSN more than XBL. If you want to know why XBL is better, go do some research based on the services.

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Well, if you aim to just game online, and not talk to people, then they are equal, but XBL is just a better service because each game is connected to every other game, and everything is seamless across everything. I dont have to stop doing anything to do anything else :P Also, not every game on PSN has dedicated servers, thats a myth. Most of the first party games do though. And, from my blog........

What makes LIVE better than PSN??

Ive seen this asked over and over on this site, so since i own both, i decided to list a few. But to fully understand, you have to experience it for yourself. So take this list, find a friend with a 360, and see for yourself.

1- cross game chat -this is more than it sounds. not only can you chat accross different games, but you can seamlessly create a party while in game, and switch from friends only chat, to chatting with people online, all without leaving the game

2- Custom soundtracks-
this is the most misunderstood by fanboys. This feature is built into every game, and is built on the LIVE software that MS created. Meaning when i play a custom soundtrack on 360 (whether its from the hard drive, pc, or MP3 player) the game music, and ONLY the game music, stops playing. This doesnt happen with PS3. On 360, it only plays the sound effects and ambient sounds in the game, allowing me to hear my song. PS3 just plays the music (only dev supported) over my game sound.

3-In game access to everything
- this is another misunderstood feature. With 360, if im playing a game, and i want to.....say play netflix. i dont have to go to the dashboard first, all i do is press the guide button, and click netflix. It stops my game and immediately plays. Or if im playing........say mass effect, and i wanna play Jade Empire that i downloaded. Same thing, just press the guide, and scroll to downloaded games. Its is nowhere NEAR as easy on PS3

4- Trueskill Ranking system- I cant count how many times i was playing warhawk when i first got it, and got beat like a runaway slave until i got the hang of it. Imagine going to the gym to play basketball, and everyday you had to play against Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, and Shaq!! Trueskill tracks your accomplishments ingame, and matches you with people on your level, making sure every experience is fair, and fun.

5 Intergration- Kinda speaks for itself. Basically my friends list follows me through every game. im even notified if a friend is playing the same game as me, and allows me to join the right then, no lobbies, menus, or anything. I can also check my achievements, friends achievements, and the profiles of the last 40 people ive played online at anytime, whether im watching a movie, netflix, playing a game, or whatever.

6-Cross game invites- no matter what im doing, i can invite a player to my game with the press of a button. No need to type a message like on PS3. I can also record voice messages to send to anyone ingame.

7-Server based system-
the myth going on is that LIVE doesnt have dedicated servers. While this is mostly true, what people fail to realize is that EVERYTHING Live related IS kept on servers, servers that MS maintains. My friends lists, achievements (even my achievement progress), games played, and even my LOCATION or MODE in the game is tracked and displayed to my friends. Meaning i can check my friends profile (ingame if i choose) and see what area hes cruising in GTA iv, or the score in madden or NFL nk9, or the mode, map, and score in Halo 3.

There are many more, but like i said, go experience it for yourself.

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#33 x360owna
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LOL, So in other words there is no proof... Just fanboyism. WOW... Learn something new everyday.

freshmoney
I cant even respond to a comment with grammer that bad. NEXT! :P
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@360boner Sorry, but I have a life, and I vist this forum less than any other at GS. Furthermore, does the search button actually work here? Your post was worthless...

freshmoney

You'll only get moderated with an attitude like that, plus no one will want to answer your questions.

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One is done by a software company trying to do hardware. The other is done by a hardware company trying to do software, which do you think would be better?

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id google this... and becuase psn is free... its better in my eyes
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Well, if you aim to just game online, and not talk to people, then they are equal, but XBL is just a better service because each game is connected to every other game, and everything is seamless across everything. I dont have to stop doing anything to do anything else :P Also, not every game on PSN has dedicated servers, thats a myth. Most of the first party games do though. And, from my blog........

What makes LIVE better than PSN??

Ive seen this asked over and over on this site, so since i own both, i decided to list a few. But to fully understand, you have to experience it for yourself. So take this list, find a friend with a 360, and see for yourself.

1- cross game chat -this is more than it sounds. not only can you chat accross different games, but you can seamlessly create a party while in game, and switch from friends only chat, to chatting with people online, all without leaving the game

2- Custom soundtracks-
this is the most misunderstood by fanboys. This feature is built into every game, and is built on the LIVE software that MS created. Meaning when i play a custom soundtrack on 360 (whether its from the hard drive, pc, or MP3 player) the game music, and ONLY the game music, stops playing. This doesnt happen with PS3. On 360, it only plays the sound effects and ambient sounds in the game, allowing me to hear my song. PS3 just plays the music (only dev supported) over my game sound.

3-In game access to everything
- this is another misunderstood feature. With 360, if im playing a game, and i want to.....say play netflix. i dont have to go to the dashboard first, all i do is press the guide button, and click netflix. It stops my game and immediately plays. Or if im playing........say mass effect, and i wanna play Jade Empire that i downloaded. Same thing, just press the guide, and scroll to downloaded games. Its is nowhere NEAR as easy on PS3

4- Trueskill Ranking system- I cant count how many times i was playing warhawk when i first got it, and got beat like a runaway slave until i got the hang of it. Imagine going to the gym to play basketball, and everyday you had to play against Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, and Shaq!! Trueskill tracks your accomplishments ingame, and matches you with people on your level, making sure every experience is fair, and fun.

5 Intergration- Kinda speaks for itself. Basically my friends list follows me through every game. im even notified if a friend is playing the same game as me, and allows me to join the right then, no lobbies, menus, or anything. I can also check my achievements, friends achievements, and the profiles of the last 40 people ive played online at anytime, whether im watching a movie, netflix, playing a game, or whatever.

6-Cross game invites- no matter what im doing, i can invite a player to my game with the press of a button. No need to type a message like on PS3. I can also record voice messages to send to anyone ingame.

7-Server based system-
the myth going on is that LIVE doesnt have dedicated servers. While this is mostly true, what people fail to realize is that EVERYTHING Live related IS kept on servers, servers that MS maintains. My friends lists, achievements (even my achievement progress), games played, and even my LOCATION or MODE in the game is tracked and displayed to my friends. Meaning i can check my friends profile (ingame if i choose) and see what area hes cruising in GTA iv, or the score in madden or NFL nk9, or the mode, map, and score in Halo 3.

There are many more, but like i said, go experience it for yourself.

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Good job, but freshmonkey doesn't deserve that kind of answer.

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One is done by a software company trying to do hardware. The other is done by a hardware company trying to do software, which do you think would be better?

MizFitAwesome

They go hand to hand, try using one without the other in the gaming industry.

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[QUOTE="navyguy21"]

Well, if you aim to just game online, and not talk to people, then they are equal, but XBL is just a better service because each game is connected to every other game, and everything is seamless across everything. I dont have to stop doing anything to do anything else :P Also, not every game on PSN has dedicated servers, thats a myth. Most of the first party games do though. And, from my blog........

What makes LIVE better than PSN??

Ive seen this asked over and over on this site, so since i own both, i decided to list a few. But to fully understand, you have to experience it for yourself. So take this list, find a friend with a 360, and see for yourself.

1- cross game chat -this is more than it sounds. not only can you chat accross different games, but you can seamlessly create a party while in game, and switch from friends only chat, to chatting with people online, all without leaving the game

2- Custom soundtracks-
this is the most misunderstood by fanboys. This feature is built into every game, and is built on the LIVE software that MS created. Meaning when i play a custom soundtrack on 360 (whether its from the hard drive, pc, or MP3 player) the game music, and ONLY the game music, stops playing. This doesnt happen with PS3. On 360, it only plays the sound effects and ambient sounds in the game, allowing me to hear my song. PS3 just plays the music (only dev supported) over my game sound.

3-In game access to everything
- this is another misunderstood feature. With 360, if im playing a game, and i want to.....say play netflix. i dont have to go to the dashboard first, all i do is press the guide button, and click netflix. It stops my game and immediately plays. Or if im playing........say mass effect, and i wanna play Jade Empire that i downloaded. Same thing, just press the guide, and scroll to downloaded games. Its is nowhere NEAR as easy on PS3

4- Trueskill Ranking system- I cant count how many times i was playing warhawk when i first got it, and got beat like a runaway slave until i got the hang of it. Imagine going to the gym to play basketball, and everyday you had to play against Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, and Shaq!! Trueskill tracks your accomplishments ingame, and matches you with people on your level, making sure every experience is fair, and fun.

5 Intergration- Kinda speaks for itself. Basically my friends list follows me through every game. im even notified if a friend is playing the same game as me, and allows me to join the right then, no lobbies, menus, or anything. I can also check my achievements, friends achievements, and the profiles of the last 40 people ive played online at anytime, whether im watching a movie, netflix, playing a game, or whatever.

6-Cross game invites- no matter what im doing, i can invite a player to my game with the press of a button. No need to type a message like on PS3. I can also record voice messages to send to anyone ingame.

7-Server based system-
the myth going on is that LIVE doesnt have dedicated servers. While this is mostly true, what people fail to realize is that EVERYTHING Live related IS kept on servers, servers that MS maintains. My friends lists, achievements (even my achievement progress), games played, and even my LOCATION or MODE in the game is tracked and displayed to my friends. Meaning i can check my friends profile (ingame if i choose) and see what area hes cruising in GTA iv, or the score in madden or NFL nk9, or the mode, map, and score in Halo 3.

There are many more, but like i said, go experience it for yourself.

_TheJoker_

Good job, but freshmonkey doesn't deserve that kind of answer.

I'm pretty sure hes posted that before and thats just c&p.

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[QUOTE="_TheJoker_"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]

Well, if you aim to just game online, and not talk to people, then they are equal, but XBL is just a better service because each game is connected to every other game, and everything is seamless across everything. I dont have to stop doing anything to do anything else :P Also, not every game on PSN has dedicated servers, thats a myth. Most of the first party games do though. And, from my blog........

What makes LIVE better than PSN??

Ive seen this asked over and over on this site, so since i own both, i decided to list a few. But to fully understand, you have to experience it for yourself. So take this list, find a friend with a 360, and see for yourself.

1- cross game chat -this is more than it sounds. not only can you chat accross different games, but you can seamlessly create a party while in game, and switch from friends only chat, to chatting with people online, all without leaving the game

2- Custom soundtracks-
this is the most misunderstood by fanboys. This feature is built into every game, and is built on the LIVE software that MS created. Meaning when i play a custom soundtrack on 360 (whether its from the hard drive, pc, or MP3 player) the game music, and ONLY the game music, stops playing. This doesnt happen with PS3. On 360, it only plays the sound effects and ambient sounds in the game, allowing me to hear my song. PS3 just plays the music (only dev supported) over my game sound.

3-In game access to everything
- this is another misunderstood feature. With 360, if im playing a game, and i want to.....say play netflix. i dont have to go to the dashboard first, all i do is press the guide button, and click netflix. It stops my game and immediately plays. Or if im playing........say mass effect, and i wanna play Jade Empire that i downloaded. Same thing, just press the guide, and scroll to downloaded games. Its is nowhere NEAR as easy on PS3

4- Trueskill Ranking system- I cant count how many times i was playing warhawk when i first got it, and got beat like a runaway slave until i got the hang of it. Imagine going to the gym to play basketball, and everyday you had to play against Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, and Shaq!! Trueskill tracks your accomplishments ingame, and matches you with people on your level, making sure every experience is fair, and fun.

5 Intergration- Kinda speaks for itself. Basically my friends list follows me through every game. im even notified if a friend is playing the same game as me, and allows me to join the right then, no lobbies, menus, or anything. I can also check my achievements, friends achievements, and the profiles of the last 40 people ive played online at anytime, whether im watching a movie, netflix, playing a game, or whatever.

6-Cross game invites- no matter what im doing, i can invite a player to my game with the press of a button. No need to type a message like on PS3. I can also record voice messages to send to anyone ingame.

7-Server based system-
the myth going on is that LIVE doesnt have dedicated servers. While this is mostly true, what people fail to realize is that EVERYTHING Live related IS kept on servers, servers that MS maintains. My friends lists, achievements (even my achievement progress), games played, and even my LOCATION or MODE in the game is tracked and displayed to my friends. Meaning i can check my friends profile (ingame if i choose) and see what area hes cruising in GTA iv, or the score in madden or NFL nk9, or the mode, map, and score in Halo 3.

There are many more, but like i said, go experience it for yourself.

x360owna

Good job, but freshmonkey doesn't deserve that kind of answer.

I'm pretty sure hes posted that before and thats just c&p.

i did, thats why i put "and from my blog" :P

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#42 Blue-Sky
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Sorry, but theres 1294812095+ threads already explaining this, and i just dont feel like it.x360owna

For real, theres like threads on the front page now. And its the same points in every singe one of them. I don't understand how people enjoy this subject over and over. Isn't it annoying hearing the same thing twice?

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It's sad when people have to make threads to bolster their self-esteem.

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#44 MizFitAwesome
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It's sad when people have to make threads to bolster their self-esteem.

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#45 freshmoney
Member since 2005 • 218 Posts

[QUOTE="x360owna"]Sorry, but theres 1294812095+ threads already explaining this, and i just dont feel like it.Blue-Sky

For real, theres like threads on the front page now. And its the same points in every singe one of them. I don't understand how people enjoy this subject over and over. Isn't it annoying hearing the same thing twice?

Why don't you try getting over the fact that people have better things to do than sit around like a watchdog, replying to every damn topic that's posted here? Why cant you get that through your thick skull? You got nearly 5k posts... I don't even have 200. I got a Wii, BC 60 gig, and a flashed Elite... I play games while you talk about them, so excuse me if I missed the previous hundred topics on this. Lamest forum ever OMG lol...

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#46 freshmoney
Member since 2005 • 218 Posts

[QUOTE="x360owna"]

[QUOTE="_TheJoker_"]

Good job, but freshmonkey doesn't deserve that kind of answer.

navyguy21

I'm pretty sure hes posted that before and thats just c&p.

i did, thats why i put "and from my blog" :P

THX for this BTW... C/P or not, it really helps.

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#48 freshmoney
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[QUOTE="freshmoney"]

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

For real, theres like threads on the front page now. And its the same points in every singe one of them. I don't understand how people enjoy this subject over and over. Isn't it annoying hearing the same thing twice?

x360owna

Why don't you try getting over the fact that people have better things to do than sit around like a watchdog, replying to every damn topic that's posted here? Why cant you get that through your thick skull? You got nearly 5k posts... I don't even have 200. I got a Wii, BC 60 gig, and a flashed Elite... I play games while you talk about them, so excuse me if I missed the previous hundred topics on this. Lamest forum ever OMG lol...

YES YES YES! YOU ASKED FOR IT, AND WE HAVE IT! FOR ONLY 3 PAYMENTS of 19..99 Thats rught, call now, and you can get your very own OBAMA FACEAPALMS FOR ONLY 3 PAYMENTS OF 19.99!

Here, catch...

*Throws you some attention*

Glad we talked... :D

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#50 Liquid_DC
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Well, if you aim to just game online, and not talk to people, then they are equal, but XBL is just a better service because each game is connected to every other game, and everything is seamless across everything. I dont have to stop doing anything to do anything else :P Also, not every game on PSN has dedicated servers, thats a myth. Most of the first party games do though. And, from my blog........

What makes LIVE better than PSN??

Ive seen this asked over and over on this site, so since i own both, i decided to list a few. But to fully understand, you have to experience it for yourself. So take this list, find a friend with a 360, and see for yourself.

1- cross game chat -this is more than it sounds. not only can you chat accross different games, but you can seamlessly create a party while in game, and switch from friends only chat, to chatting with people online, all without leaving the game

2- Custom soundtracks-
this is the most misunderstood by fanboys. This feature is built into every game, and is built on the LIVE software that MS created. Meaning when i play a custom soundtrack on 360 (whether its from the hard drive, pc, or MP3 player) the game music, and ONLY the game music, stops playing. This doesnt happen with PS3. On 360, it only plays the sound effects and ambient sounds in the game, allowing me to hear my song. PS3 just plays the music (only dev supported) over my game sound.

3-In game access to everything
- this is another misunderstood feature. With 360, if im playing a game, and i want to.....say play netflix. i dont have to go to the dashboard first, all i do is press the guide button, and click netflix. It stops my game and immediately plays. Or if im playing........say mass effect, and i wanna play Jade Empire that i downloaded. Same thing, just press the guide, and scroll to downloaded games. Its is nowhere NEAR as easy on PS3

4- Trueskill Ranking system- I cant count how many times i was playing warhawk when i first got it, and got beat like a runaway slave until i got the hang of it. Imagine going to the gym to play basketball, and everyday you had to play against Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, and Shaq!! Trueskill tracks your accomplishments ingame, and matches you with people on your level, making sure every experience is fair, and fun.

5 Intergration- Kinda speaks for itself. Basically my friends list follows me through every game. im even notified if a friend is playing the same game as me, and allows me to join the right then, no lobbies, menus, or anything. I can also check my achievements, friends achievements, and the profiles of the last 40 people ive played online at anytime, whether im watching a movie, netflix, playing a game, or whatever.

6-Cross game invites- no matter what im doing, i can invite a player to my game with the press of a button. No need to type a message like on PS3. I can also record voice messages to send to anyone ingame.

7-Server based system-
the myth going on is that LIVE doesnt have dedicated servers. While this is mostly true, what people fail to realize is that EVERYTHING Live related IS kept on servers, servers that MS maintains. My friends lists, achievements (even my achievement progress), games played, and even my LOCATION or MODE in the game is tracked and displayed to my friends. Meaning i can check my friends profile (ingame if i choose) and see what area hes cruising in GTA iv, or the score in madden or NFL nk9, or the mode, map, and score in Halo 3.

There are many more, but like i said, go experience it for yourself.

navyguy21

good points, but most of that can be done on psn, ala going from game to movie, with out going to xmb, viewing friendslist, viewing trophise, all in game. hopefully cross game chat comes soon, its really the only feature on live that i want on psn. like i said verygood points but nothing there is needed in order to play online games, especially if its free