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#1 JAMES_L_BROOKS
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Why do people think Killzone 2 looks bad?

i want to know, i guess excluding the textures bcz im almost sure in the months guerilla has they will fix that, but why do ppl bash it and say its going to suck, all i heard about the KZ2 pre-alpha demo at E3 was good (again excluding the textures)

are people jealous, or is there a truth i'm not seeing?

NO TALK OF Killzone 1 IN THIS THREAD GUERILLA GAMES IS DIFFRENT FROM BACK THEN (proven in other threadS)

please discuss here

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#2 organic_machine
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KZ2 looks really immersive. It looks solid and fun. BUT, the AI looks terrible.
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#3 EPaul
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cause its on the ps3
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#4 Bansheesdie
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KZ2 looks really immersive. It looks solid and fun. BUT, the AI looks terrible. organic_machine

I second that, and add the gameplay could use some more apparent depth.

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#5 MADVLAD123
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It doesn't look bad. It looks good.

My only gripe with it is that it looks very bland and colorless. I enjoy good graphics. But I enjoy color and a good artstyle more.

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#6 DuDisNow
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Because everything in the game needs to look good. That's why it looks bad.
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#7 Art_424
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Muddy colors=MUDZONE! More colors pls.!!:P

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#8 Tickmenanny
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They've played it 30 times already on the 360? This was the one with the... generic FPS marine guys, right? Wait, that narrows nothing down.
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#9 JAMES_L_BROOKS
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KZ2 looks really immersive. It looks solid and fun. BUT, the AI looks terrible. organic_machine

personally i didnt see how they are bad, but again its a pre-alpha level, but ok, though the AI on your side looked and acted pretty smart, like LOCUS gears of war smart, jumpin ginto cover and all

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#10 Slyprince
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Oh, you didn't hear

us lemmings arent allowed to be impressed by ps3 games

and uh sheep can't even complain about graphics...

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#11 Ragashahs
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KZ2 looks really immersive. It looks solid and fun. BUT, the AI looks terrible. organic_machine
yeah i thought that too but all those videos you see of KZ2 are being play with god mode. i remember seeing an article by a guy who actully got ot play the demo and he had to give the controller to the dev to beat some section of the demo
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#12 MuffinPunk
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Because Killzone 1 looked good untill people played it. I have and I regret that.
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#13 JAMES_L_BROOKS
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Because everything in the game needs to look good. That's why it looks bad.DuDisNow

lol?....wait what?

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#14 Zero_Fate_
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Who knows? Killzone 2 looks really good after we allsaw it in action but unfortunately the same could have been said for the original Killzone.
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#15 Lilac_Benjie
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It looks like a very generic FPS. Nothing to get hyped over.
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#16 organic_machine
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[QUOTE="organic_machine"]KZ2 looks really immersive. It looks solid and fun. BUT, the AI looks terrible. JAMES_L_BROOKS

personally i didnt see how they are bad, but again its a pre-alpha level, but ok, though the AI on your side looked and acted pretty smart, like LOCUS gears of war smart, jumpin ginto cover and all

I think that looked more scripted than anything. But normally, for demos like this, the AI is turned on easy to show features. That is my hope. 'Cause what I saw was horrible.

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#17 JAMES_L_BROOKS
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[QUOTE="organic_machine"]KZ2 looks really immersive. It looks solid and fun. BUT, the AI looks terrible. Ragashahs
yeah i thought that too but all those videos you see of KZ2 are being play with god mode. i remember seeing an article by a guy who actully got ot play the demo and he had to give the controller to the dev to beat some section of the demo

just wondering do you knwo of a video demo that shows some one dieing, bcz the AI look dumb bcz you dont die, but then again the demo vids cut out that stuff

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#18 JAMES_L_BROOKS
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[QUOTE="JAMES_L_BROOKS"]

[QUOTE="organic_machine"]KZ2 looks really immersive. It looks solid and fun. BUT, the AI looks terrible. organic_machine

personally i didnt see how they are bad, but again its a pre-alpha level, but ok, though the AI on your side looked and acted pretty smart, like LOCUS gears of war smart, jumpin ginto cover and all

I think that looked more scripted than anything. But normally, for demos like this, the AI is turned on easy to show features. That is my hope. 'Cause what I saw was horrible.

ic ic, but i guess your right just like in the MGS4 demo ppl said the AI looked dumb, but it was on easy mode so kojima could show you what the games features are.

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[QUOTE="JAMES_L_BROOKS"]

[QUOTE="organic_machine"]KZ2 looks really immersive. It looks solid and fun. BUT, the AI looks terrible. organic_machine

personally i didnt see how they are bad, but again its a pre-alpha level, but ok, though the AI on your side looked and acted pretty smart, like LOCUS gears of war smart, jumpin ginto cover and all

I think that looked more scripted than anything. But normally, for demos like this, the AI is turned on easy to show features. That is my hope. 'Cause what I saw was horrible.

yeah its just that, in an ask the devs forum one of the devs said it was on the easiest mode also with god mode on...the ai will be fine trust me

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#20 organic_machine
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Remember people, difficulty =/= intelligent AI. Playing Final Doom on nightmare was downright impossible. But the AI is still archaic and stupid.
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#21 enduin
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Well it all depends on a persons opinion of the artistic style, character designs, etc. High res textures and high poly character models with advanced lighthing, animations, physics, etc. dont make up for bad art.
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#22 JAMES_L_BROOKS
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It looks like a very generic FPS. Nothing to get hyped over.Lilac_Benjie

generic?... IMO it looks chaotic, like a real warzone, t really draws me in unlike other games...actually no other game has really drawn me in , mebe BF2 a little but nothing compaired to KZ2

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#23 JAMES_L_BROOKS
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Because Killzone 1 looked good untill people played it. I have and I regret that.MuffinPunk

did you read the bold statement, dont make me repost the thread how Geurilla games is pretty much a diffrent company form back then

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#24 JAMES_L_BROOKS
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Oh, you didn't hear

us lemmings arent allowed to be impressed by ps3 games

and uh sheep can't even complain about graphics...

Slyprince

lol

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#25 JAMES_L_BROOKS
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well one other question, a serious one, all consles aside, do you ppl (lemmings too) think this game looks AAA material?????
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well one other question, a serious one, all consles aside, do you ppl (lemmings too) think this game looks AAA material?????JAMES_L_BROOKS

It looks like A-AA material. Certainly better than the first Killzone, although I am more hyped about Resistance 2 than I am Killzone anything.

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#27 tomarlyn
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Still the best looking console game I've ever seen.
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#28 organic_machine
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well one other question, a serious one, all consles aside, do you ppl (lemmings too) think this game looks AAA material?????JAMES_L_BROOKS

mmm... difficult question. It very well could be AAA, but at the same time, it could be stale, and be A material. As of right now, if the AI is tight and some of the level design issues are addressed (pressing that button four times and shooting countless magazines into the big gun), then it could very well shape up to be an AAA title.

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#29 JAMES_L_BROOKS
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[QUOTE="JAMES_L_BROOKS"]well one other question, a serious one, all consles aside, do you ppl (lemmings too) think this game looks AAA material?????Lilac_Benjie

It looks like A-AA material. Certainly better than the first Killzone, although I am more hyped about Resistance 2 than I am Killzone anything.

thats new lol, resistance was kewl and all, better than gears value and play wise IMO but i just think ppl dont see the depth and complexity of KZ2 and how its at a crysis level in development and technology, ex most adv. lighting engine

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#30 Sully28
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Im still amazed by people commenting on AI from demo vids. Every dev tunes down AI or has god mode on when showing off a game. foolish fanboys
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#31 JAMES_L_BROOKS
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[QUOTE="JAMES_L_BROOKS"]well one other question, a serious one, all consles aside, do you ppl (lemmings too) think this game looks AAA material?????organic_machine

mmm... difficult question. It very well could be AAA, but at the same time, it could be stale, and be A material. As of right now, if the AI is tight and some of the level design issues are addressed (pressing that button four times and shooting countless magazines into the big gun), then it could very well shape up to be an AAA title.

ic ic, btw HazeNPopes is about to get owned...lol crysis get a 6.5.... HAHAHA the stock market will crash and the world as we know it b4r that will happen, you dont have to have a magic ball to see the greatness in that game

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#32 ho0p3r4life42
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The colors just appear bland/boring...
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#33 JAMES_L_BROOKS
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Im still amazed by people commenting on AI from demo vids. Every dev tunes down AI or has god mode on when showing off a game. foolish fanboysSully28

you made my day =P hah but ya i know what you mean

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#34 FatalDomain
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Killzone 2 doesnt look bad....its just doesnt look all that great to gamers who have been playing great FPS for years (PC, 360 owners). For the Sony fans the Playstation was a magnet for mediocre titles in this genre (bad ports or just plain lousy games). For those gamers KZ2 may seem like a breath of fresh air following the success of Resistance, but to the rest of the gaming world its just another generic shooter.

So while its good that the Sony camp may have another good game to play on their system, they need to come to the conclusion that this game is not the next thing since sliced bread for FPS games and shouldnt be hyped to the extent its being hyped...

Game On...

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#35 JAMES_L_BROOKS
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Killzone 2 doesnt look bad....its just doesnt look all that great to gamers who have been playing greats FPS for years (PC, 360 owners). For the Sony fans the Playstation was a magnet for mediocre titles in this genre (bad ports or just plain lousy games). For those gamers KZ2 may seem like a fresh breath of air following the success of Resistance, but to the rest of the gaming world its just another generic shooter.

So while its good that the Sony camp may have another good game to play on their system, they need to come to the conclusion that this game is not the next thing since sliced bread for FPS games and shouldnt be hyped to the extent its being hyped...

Game On...

FatalDomain

i kinda disagree bcz i owned an xbox and instead of going 360 i went PS3, and compaired to other FPS games i've seen/played this game looks amazing (full spectrum lighting hehe)

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If Kilzone 2 was being made on the 360, would it be a good looking game then? I know it could look a lil better on the PC.. But really, ill be playing this game in seven months and ill let ya all know if its good, lol.
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#37 furtherfan
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not these topics again. has been discussed 1000 times
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[QUOTE="organic_machine"]KZ2 looks really immersive. It looks solid and fun. BUT, the AI looks terrible. Bansheesdie

I second that, and add the gameplay could use some more apparent depth.

Yeah, the AI can't avoid grenade properly ...........

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#39 FatalDomain
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[QUOTE="FatalDomain"]

Killzone 2 doesnt look bad....its just doesnt look all that great to gamers who have been playing greats FPS for years (PC, 360 owners). For the Sony fans the Playstation was a magnet for mediocre titles in this genre (bad ports or just plain lousy games). For those gamers KZ2 may seem like a fresh breath of air following the success of Resistance, but to the rest of the gaming world its just another generic shooter.

So while its good that the Sony camp may have another good game to play on their system, they need to come to the conclusion that this game is not the next thing since sliced bread for FPS games and shouldnt be hyped to the extent its being hyped...

Game On...

JAMES_L_BROOKS

i kinda disagree bcz i owned an xbox and instead of going 360 i went PS3, and compaired to other FPS games i've seen/played this game looks amazing (full spectrum lighting hehe)

Its cool to disagree but you have made my point... Nothing that is done in KZ2 is new to the FPS genre. The lighting, physics, AI, story, presentation nothing is outstanding about this game. I will give it credit for the possibility of being a quality title, but its been done before, just not on a Playstation system....thats about it!!!

Game On...

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#40 JAMES_L_BROOKS
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If Kilzone 2 was being made on the 360, would it be a good looking game then? I know it could look a lil better on the PC.. But really, ill be playing this game in seven months and ill let ya all know if its good, lol.Gamersince81

might lok better on PC, but PC's dont have the CELL...yet....alsou'd have 5 DVD9's unless they make it BD disc, and 7 months?? lol its being released in march forsure? i get a feeling it will be later, but i guess we'll see

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#41 JAMES_L_BROOKS
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[QUOTE="JAMES_L_BROOKS"][QUOTE="FatalDomain"]

Killzone 2 doesnt look bad....its just doesnt look all that great to gamers who have been playing greats FPS for years (PC, 360 owners). For the Sony fans the Playstation was a magnet for mediocre titles in this genre (bad ports or just plain lousy games). For those gamers KZ2 may seem like a fresh breath of air following the success of Resistance, but to the rest of the gaming world its just another generic shooter.

So while its good that the Sony camp may have another good game to play on their system, they need to come to the conclusion that this game is not the next thing since sliced bread for FPS games and shouldnt be hyped to the extent its being hyped...

Game On...

FatalDomain

i kinda disagree bcz i owned an xbox and instead of going 360 i went PS3, and compaired to other FPS games i've seen/played this game looks amazing (full spectrum lighting hehe)

Its cool to disagree but you have made my point... Nothing that is done in KZ2 is new to the FPS genre. The lighting, physics, AI, story, presentation nothing is outstanding about this game. I will give it credit for the possibility of being a quality title, but its been done before, just not on a Playstation system....thats about it!!!

Game On...

i know nothing really really new is in this game...as we know so far i guess, but you did make a good point btw, though even if it dsnt have that much new, it has pretty much the best of everything XP

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#42 munu9
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What do expect? This is system wars people will hate on anything. Though I agree that compared to the rest of the what we've seen of the game, the textures aren't very impressive. But the character models, gun models, animations, and overall atmosphere almost make the not-so-great textures negligible...
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fanboy googles, makes games on their system look spectacular and games on other systems look like junk
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#44 wiistation360
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it looks good,but not as much as cows hype it.
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#45 Redfingers
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This looks nothing short of amazing, /endthread.

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#46 JAMES_L_BROOKS
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it looks good,but not as much as cows hype it.wiistation360

looks better than nething the 360 could produce...lol, again lets wai ttill next year, bcz im hyped for this game T.T

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#47 munu9
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Killzone 2 doesnt look bad....its just doesnt look all that great to gamers who have been playing great FPS for years (PC, 360 owners). For the Sony fans the Playstation was a magnet for mediocre titles in this genre (bad ports or just plain lousy games). For those gamers KZ2 may seem like a breath of fresh air following the success of Resistance, but to the rest of the gaming world its just another generic shooter.

So while its good that the Sony camp may have another good game to play on their system, they need to come to the conclusion that this game is not the next thing since sliced bread for FPS games and shouldnt be hyped to the extent its being hyped...

Game On...

FatalDomain

Nothing great? It seriously has the most immersive atmosphere and greatest animations of any game I've seen...

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[QUOTE="Gamersince81"]If Kilzone 2 was being made on the 360, would it be a good looking game then? I know it could look a lil better on the PC.. But really, ill be playing this game in seven months and ill let ya all know if its good, lol.JAMES_L_BROOKS

might lok better on PC, but PC's dont have the CELL...yet....alsou'd have 5 DVD9's unless they make it BD disc, and 7 months?? lol its being released in march forsure? i get a feeling it will be later, but i guess we'll see

Im being "positive" saying March... im dreaming its March but it could always be delayed. Killzone 2 will be the bridge FPS till RFOM 2 gets released.

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#49 JAMES_L_BROOKS
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This looks nothing short of amazing, /endthread.

Redfingers

nice haha, and the textures still dont lookhalf bad i dunno why ppl think they are N64 textures lol

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#50 JAMES_L_BROOKS
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[QUOTE="JAMES_L_BROOKS"]

[QUOTE="Gamersince81"]If Kilzone 2 was being made on the 360, would it be a good looking game then? I know it could look a lil better on the PC.. But really, ill be playing this game in seven months and ill let ya all know if its good, lol.Gamersince81

might lok better on PC, but PC's dont have the CELL...yet....alsou'd have 5 DVD9's unless they make it BD disc, and 7 months?? lol its being released in march forsure? i get a feeling it will be later, but i guess we'll see

Im being "positive" saying March... im dreaming its March but it could always be delayed. Killzone 2 will be the bridge FPS till RFOM 2 gets released.

lol i like posative hah, btw is there ne news on RFOM 2 yet?