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#51 organic_machine
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since when does a game have to re-invent the wheel to be good? Not being impressed by it is fine, but to say "everything has been done before" is kind of lame. For me, I did have mixed reactions.
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#52 groovdafied
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Because the goggles are like 5 inches thick and dipped in tar.
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#53 wiistation360
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[QUOTE="wiistation360"]it looks good,but not as much as cows hype it.JAMES_L_BROOKS

looks better than nething the 360 could produce...lol, again lets wai ttill next year, bcz im hyped for this game T.T

:lol:teh cows magic word:lol:

i dont believe kz2 looks better than anything the 360 could produce

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#54 JAMES_L_BROOKS
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[QUOTE="JAMES_L_BROOKS"]

[QUOTE="wiistation360"]it looks good,but not as much as cows hype it.wiistation360

looks better than nething the 360 could produce...lol, again lets wai ttill next year, bcz im hyped for this game T.T

:lol:teh cows magic word:lol:

i dont believe kz2 looks better than anything the 360 could produce

sry cows dont have short attention spans lol, btw prove me wrong that the 360 can produce something better, seriously show me something

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#55 no_submission
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At this point I don't care about it's graphics( they look good enough, all it needs is shiner metal), all I want is a super immersed SP campaign and a mind blowing MP full of different modes and features(THAT WILL BLOW THE ASS OFF OF HALO3)
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#56 joker730
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i think it looks great but the textures could use some work
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#57 da1on2
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Killzone 2 doesnt look bad....its just doesnt look all that great to gamers who have been playing great FPS for years (PC, 360 owners). For the Sony fans the Playstation was a magnet for mediocre titles in this genre (bad ports or just plain lousy games). For those gamers KZ2 may seem like a breath of fresh air following the success of Resistance, but to the rest of the gaming world its just another generic shooter.

So while its good that the Sony camp may have another good game to play on their system, they need to come to the conclusion that this game is not the next thing since sliced bread for FPS games and shouldnt be hyped to the extent its being hyped...

Game On...

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Okay but what does tha have to do with the graphics:|
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#58 Art_424
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Judging on the floor on the K2 picture posted, they are very similar to the MGS4......:lol: (Fugly grounds):lol:
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#59 AfterShafter
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.the ai will be fine trust me

blues3531


Why should we trust you, or that craptastic developer?
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#60 FatalDomain
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[QUOTE="FatalDomain"]

Killzone 2 doesnt look bad....its just doesnt look all that great to gamers who have been playing great FPS for years (PC, 360 owners). For the Sony fans the Playstation was a magnet for mediocre titles in this genre (bad ports or just plain lousy games). For those gamers KZ2 may seem like a breath of fresh air following the success of Resistance, but to the rest of the gaming world its just another generic shooter.

So while its good that the Sony camp may have another good game to play on their system, they need to come to the conclusion that this game is not the next thing since sliced bread for FPS games and shouldnt be hyped to the extent its being hyped...

Game On...

da1on2

Okay but what does tha have to do with the graphics:|

Im talking about the game as a whole, not just graphics. It doesnt do anything special except impress Sony fans. PC and 360 gamers have been exposed to games like this for years, but since the Sony clan can finally get on the FPS bandwagon (the genre was once overrated to them because they didnt have any decent titles) they feel KZ2 is not getting the credit they feel it deserves..

Game On...

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#61 mazdero
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It doesn't look bad. It looks good.

My only gripe with it is that it looks very bland and colorless. I enjoy good graphics. But I enjoy color and a good artstyle more.

MADVLAD123

Have you ever seen an environment ravaged by war? It is not colorful, at all.do you think an enviroment blown to hell should have daisy's, rose bushes and rainbows everywhere? Killzone 2 looks like a war is going on. The color palette and art styleare perfect for the setting. Besides, how much sense would it make for soldiers to be wearing bright colors?

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#62 Kahuna_1
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[QUOTE="organic_machine"]KZ2 looks really immersive. It looks solid and fun. BUT, the AI looks terrible. Bansheesdie

I second that, and add the gameplay could use some more apparent depth.

Maybe they had it so the AI doesnt do anything...I remember some GOW videos on the game where Jaffe was controlling everything, I mean you cant judge something crucial like AI off the first real video of the game.

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#63 deactivated-62d1b87aec423
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It doesn't look bad. Cows just hyped their own CGI as real time and it got ruined. The game looks great, but people expecting the CGI screamed like Spider monkeys.
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#64 coratel
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[QUOTE="organic_machine"]KZ2 looks really immersive. It looks solid and fun. BUT, the AI looks terrible. Bansheesdie

I second that, and add the gameplay could use some more apparent depth.

how do you know anything about the ai from a video? and the clips of people being shot and gunfights are so short that its hard to tell where things are goin in them anyway. and how do you know anything about the depth of the game for that matter?

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#65 Ultra-Alue
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but why do ppl bash it and say its going to suck,

JAMES_L_BROOKS

It's a Killzone game. They have a tendency to suck.

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#66 Uzumaki_Naruto5
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Because this is system wars and the game is exclusive to one console.
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#67 Uzumaki_Naruto5
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[QUOTE="JAMES_L_BROOKS"]

but why do ppl bash it and say its going to suck,

Ultra-Alue

It's a Killzone game. They have a tendency to suck.

How can you say that when there have been 2 killzone games, of which one sucked, and the other was good?

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#68 inertk
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Not on their console, the goggles they do nothing.
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#69 outbreak201
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Why do people think Killzone 2 looks bad?

i want to know, i guess excluding the textures bcz im almost sure in the months guerilla has they will fix that, but why do ppl bash it and say its going to suck, all i heard about the KZ2 pre-alpha demo at E3 was good (again excluding the textures)

are people jealous, or is there a truth i'm not seeing?

NO TALK OF Killzone 1 IN THIS THREAD GUERILLA GAMES IS DIFFRENT FROM BACK THEN (proven in other threadS)

please discuss here

JAMES_L_BROOKS

whoa whoa....wait a second ... people actually think killzone 2's grahpics look bad? wtf?

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#70 coratel
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[QUOTE="JAMES_L_BROOKS"]

Why do people think Killzone 2 looks bad?

i want to know, i guess excluding the textures bcz im almost sure in the months guerilla has they will fix that, but why do ppl bash it and say its going to suck, all i heard about the KZ2 pre-alpha demo at E3 was good (again excluding the textures)

are people jealous, or is there a truth i'm not seeing?

NO TALK OF Killzone 1 IN THIS THREAD GUERILLA GAMES IS DIFFRENT FROM BACK THEN (proven in other threadS)

please discuss here

outbreak201

whoa whoa....wait a second ... people actually think killzone 2's grahpics look bad? wtf?

Lol /agree

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#71 OGTiago
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It looks great... that's about it.
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#72 proof11102
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[QUOTE="outbreak201"][QUOTE="JAMES_L_BROOKS"]

Why do people think Killzone 2 looks bad?

i want to know, i guess excluding the textures bcz im almost sure in the months guerilla has they will fix that, but why do ppl bash it and say its going to suck, all i heard about the KZ2 pre-alpha demo at E3 was good (again excluding the textures)

are people jealous, or is there a truth i'm not seeing?

NO TALK OF Killzone 1 IN THIS THREAD GUERILLA GAMES IS DIFFRENT FROM BACK THEN (proven in other threadS)

please discuss here

coratel

whoa whoa....wait a second ... people actually think killzone 2's grahpics look bad? wtf?

Lol /agree

Seriously

Killzone 2 Animated GIF

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#73 bluebrad1974
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Why do people think Killzone 2 looks bad?

i want to know, i guess excluding the textures bcz im almost sure in the months guerilla has they will fix that, but why do ppl bash it and say its going to suck, all i heard about the KZ2 pre-alpha demo at E3 was good (again excluding the textures)

are people jealous, or is there a truth i'm not seeing?

NO TALK OF Killzone 1 IN THIS THREAD GUERILLA GAMES IS DIFFRENT FROM BACK THEN (proven in other threadS)

please discuss here

JAMES_L_BROOKS
I personally don't think KZ2 looks bad graphically, but it definately doesn't look as good ascows have been hyping it.
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#74 McClair9
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It looks great,the problem is it was hyped up to be out of this world and now we've seen the footage cows are burying their heads in the sand and pretending it looks better than everything else.
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#75 caseypayne69
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KZ2 looks really immersive. It looks solid and fun. BUT, the AI looks terrible. organic_machine

During the demo for viewing, diffuculty was on easy. When people got to play it they put it on hard, and most couldn't beat the miniboss flame guy.

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#76 kcpp2b
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Killzone 2 looks great and can't wait to play it one day but it does not match the trailer.
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#77 chutup
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Killzone 2 graphics are IMO some of the best realtime graphics ever shown. Right up there with Crysis and Mass Effect. However we have yet to see if the game is actually good, other than its graphics. The AI, hopefully will be good, but I don't care about that much. What I really hope it will have is some decent puzzles and vehicles for variety, like in Half-Life 2, or alternatively, intense large-scale battles like in Resistance. Either or both of these things could make it stand out as a good FPS. But it's never going to revolutionary.
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#78 wiistation360
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[QUOTE="wiistation360"][QUOTE="JAMES_L_BROOKS"]

[QUOTE="wiistation360"]it looks good,but not as much as cows hype it.JAMES_L_BROOKS

looks better than nething the 360 could produce...lol, again lets wai ttill next year, bcz im hyped for this game T.T

:lol:teh cows magic word:lol:

i dont believe kz2 looks better than anything the 360 could produce

sry cows dont have short attention spans lol, btw prove me wrong that the 360 can produce something better, seriously show me something

bioshock
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#79 thinicer
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Why do people think Killzone 2 looks bad?

JAMES_L_BROOKS

Because many people are fanboys.

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#80 DA_B0MB
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People have terrible biases against this game. Killzone 2 and Halo 3 suffer at the minds of the tainted far too much. Killzone 2 is a graphical marvel.
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#81 AIH_PSP
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Muddy colors=MUDZONE! More colors pls.!!:P

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lol. go play viva pinata on your 360.
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#82 sgallag_play
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It doesn't look bad. It looks good.

My only gripe with it is that it looks very bland and colorless. I enjoy good graphics. But I enjoy color and a good artstyle more.

MADVLAD123

It was in the middle of a thunder storm usally everything is Gray in a thunder storm.

And that game looks Awesome.

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#83 PyroXD
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because they cant have it.
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#84 SiiSsy
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halo>kz>halo=kz

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#85 Ponmop
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The graphics are undeniably great. That said, there's no way I'm gonna get my panties in a twist and duke all over myself just because another generic , regurgitated fps doom, quake, halo, gears clone is coming out. Sorry, I guess I'm just over the (insert name of new flavor of the month shooter here) hype. The graphics do look pretty though.;)
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#86 crue7x2
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[QUOTE="JAMES_L_BROOKS"][QUOTE="wiistation360"][QUOTE="JAMES_L_BROOKS"]

[QUOTE="wiistation360"]it looks good,but not as much as cows hype it.wiistation360

looks better than nething the 360 could produce...lol, again lets wai ttill next year, bcz im hyped for this game T.T

:lol:teh cows magic word:lol:

i dont believe kz2 looks better than anything the 360 could produce

sry cows dont have short attention spans lol, btw prove me wrong that the 360 can produce something better, seriously show me something

bioshock

LOL your not kidding anybody...I have played bioshock it does not look as good as killzone 2 or crysis.

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#87 organic_machine
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[QUOTE="organic_machine"]KZ2 looks really immersive. It looks solid and fun. BUT, the AI looks terrible. caseypayne69

During the demo for viewing, diffuculty was on easy. When people got to play it they put it on hard, and most couldn't beat the miniboss flame guy.

Final Doom is the hardest game I have ever played. but that doesn't mean it had good AI. But we cannot know until the product comes out.

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#88 SiiSsy
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[QUOTE="JAMES_L_BROOKS"]

but why do ppl bash it and say its going to suck,

Ultra-Alue

It's a Killzone game. They have a tendency to suck.

They also have a tendency to prove people wrong. Like.....the people who saidit would look terrible.
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#89 osan0
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on a technical level im sure this game will be something else. the devs pulled off amazing things on the PS2 and im sure theyll do the same with the PS3. hopefully they also sort out the content so that game is alot better than KZ1 to play though.

my only complaint is that the game is very....grey (from the few vids ive seen anyway). hopefully the end product has more colours besides grey, black and brown.

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#90 d_garza2242
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The reason why people hate on hit mainly MS fanboys is cause they are afraid it will be better than Halo. And if it turns out to be better thanHaloMS fanboys have nothin more to say. Halo is the only game on there side while thePS brand has so many.Im not sayin it will or wont better but regardless u kno this game looks good. It looks as good as GeoW (gears of war) and thats cause its not even on its alpha stage. People complain its to dark. The game is designed for a darksidebut i mean there still not even on the alpha stage so they will improve color, lighting, AI, physics, everythin
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#91 GarchomPro
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It looks like a very generic FPS. Nothing to get hyped over.Lilac_Benjie


Funny, that statement reminds me of Halo 3
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#92 -Ninja_Dog-
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[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]It looks like a very generic FPS. Nothing to get hyped over.GarchomPro


Funny, that statement reminds me of Halo 3

Excuse me.

Halo is anything but generic.

What game has Elites ?

What game has Grunts ?

What game has Jackels ?

What game has Hunters ?

What game has Drones ?

What games has Brutes ?

What game has the flood ?

What game has Sgt. Johnson ?

What game has a beleivable carrierable weapons system ?

What game has spiker grenades ?

What game has sticky plasma grenades ?

What games has fire bomb grenades ?

What game has an Energy Sword ?

What game has land vehicles ?

What game has air vehicles ?

What game has bubble sheilds ?

What game has the power drainer ?

What game has the portable grav lift ?

What game has the power regenerator ?

What game has the oversheild ?

What game has active camo ?

What game has human weapons ?

What game has alien weapons ?

What game has a story ?

And tons of other things.

Generic ? I dont think so.

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#93 snipe2004
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im just waiting for my gameinformer mag to come in as the mag has hands-on gameplay of killzone 2
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#94 organic_machine
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Excuse me.

Halo is anything but generic.

What game has Elites ?

What game has Grunts ?

What game has Jackels ?

What game has Hunters ?

What game has Drones ?

What games has Brutes ?

What game has the flood ?

What game has Sgt. Johnson ?

What game has a beleivable carrierable weapons system ?

What game has spiker grenades ?

What game has sticky plasma grenades ?

What games has fire bomb grenades ?

What game has an Energy Sword ?

What game has land vehicles ?

What game has air vehicles ?

What game has bubble sheilds ?

What game has the power drainer ?

What game has the portable grav lift ?

What game has the power regenerator ?

What game has the oversheild ?

What game has active camo ?

What game has human weapons ?

What game has alien weapons ?

What game has a story ?

And tons of other things.

Generic ? I dont think so.

-Ninja_Dog-

That has got to be one of the worst arguments I have ever heard.

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#95 krp008
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How do you know Guerilla all of a sudden became talented in 3 years?? Because they fooled everyone with a CGI video at E3? :lol:

Im sorry, but 2 huge flops under their belt beg to differ

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#96 Blinblingthing
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cause its on the ps3EPaul

Exactly

Games Only Look bad if its on PS3

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#98 danielsmith2020
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[QUOTE="organic_machine"]KZ2 looks really immersive. It looks solid and fun. BUT, the AI looks terrible. Bansheesdie

I second that, and add the gameplay could use some more apparent depth.

Never complain about AI in a demo of a game, every game demo is always demonstrated on easy so they can show you the game and not worry about dying. Why is that people are so stupid when it comes to this very obvious observation.

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#99 organic_machine
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[QUOTE="Bansheesdie"]

[QUOTE="organic_machine"]KZ2 looks really immersive. It looks solid and fun. BUT, the AI looks terrible. danielsmith2020

I second that, and add the gameplay could use some more apparent depth.

Never complain about AI in a demo of a game, every game demo is always demonstrated on easy so they can show you the game and not worry about dying. Why is that people are so stupid when it comes to this very obvious observation.

And if you keep reading onwards that is exactly what I said.

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#100 Blinblingthing
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Muddy colors=MUDZONE! More colors pls.!!:P Art_424

Yeah, Times during thunderstorms are usually colorful :roll: