Why Do So Many People Buy From Steam?

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LINK"This currently DOES NOT work on the steam version". Ive tried installing the exact version and it didnt work properly. It might work now using a newer version but it didnt before. And compatibility will be broken if Rockstar releases a patch that you dont have a choice whether to install or not install.

USBxDVD

With the non-Steam version, there would be no need for the word "currently" It would be "has and always will work". Its nice that you ignored that point though and focused on the hope that the modders would come to the rescue.

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[QUOTE="def_mode"] keywoard: currently people are working on it.def_mode

With the non-Steam version, there would be no need for the word "currently" It would be "has and always will work". Its nice that you ignored that point though and focused on the hope that the modders would come to the rescue.

90% of you guys are missing the point of this thread.

I never said Steam sucks. I use Steam everyday and love the community features. Im asking why would you buy a Steam game thats not on sale when you can get the physical copy online for a fraction of the price? Im also pointing out the disadvantages of a digital copy such as not having the physical material that some consider to be collectible and the possibility of losing all your games in the event that you somehow lose your account.

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[QUOTE="def_mode"] keywoard: currently people are working on it.ferret-gamer

With the non-Steam version, there would be no need for the word "currently" It would be "has and always will work". Its nice that you ignored that point though and focused on the hope that the modders would come to the rescue.

Ok, this is news to me. I was unaware that you could disable automatic updates for individual games. This solves a lot of problems. I dont like automatic. It just means less control. Id rather do this manually and have complete control.

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With the non-Steam version, there would be no need for the word "currently" It would be "has and always will work". Its nice that you ignored that point though and focused on the hope that the modders would come to the rescue.

USBxDVD

Ok, this is news to me. I was unaware that you could disable automatic updates for individual games. This solves a lot of problems. I dont like automatic. It just means less control. Id rather do this manually and have complete control.

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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] The newest version of ICEhancer works fine on the steam version, and you can downgrade the steam version to the older patch anyways. Steam just keeps everything fully updated by default and GTA IV's newest patch has some limitations, but you can roll back patches on steam.ferret-gamer

Ok, this is news to me. I was unaware that you could disable automatic updates for individual games. This solves a lot of problems. I dont like automatic. It just means less control. Id rather do this manually and have complete control.

also if you want to disable automatic updates in general for your entire library you basically do the same thing under "settings".

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With the non-Steam version, there would be no need for the word "currently" It would be "has and always will work". Its nice that you ignored that point though and focused on the hope that the modders would come to the rescue.

USBxDVD

90% of you guys are missing the point of this thread.

I never said Steam sucks. I use Steam everyday and love the community features. Im asking why would you buy a Steam game thats not on sale when you can get the physical copy online for a fraction of the price? Im also pointing out the disadvantages of a digital copy such as not having the physical material that some consider to be collectible and the possibility of losing all your games in the event that you somehow lose your account.

I would never ever buy a game near its release on Steam. The fact that they charge the same price as retail is daylight robbery. I only buy from Steam if its much cheaper than the retail version, which has manuals and packaging.ocstew

Thanks for being the first person here to speak honestly.

[QUOTE="ocstew"]I would never ever buy a game near its release on Steam. The fact that they charge the same price as retail is daylight robbery. I only buy from Steam if its much cheaper than the retail version, which has manuals and packaging.USBxDVD

Thanks for being the first person here to speak honestly.

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[QUOTE="def_mode"] So steam sucks because of this one particular mod? What about Steam almost giving away the expansions? Isnt that a "better" upside?Heartagram_03

90% of you guys are missing the point of this thread.

I never said Steam sucks. I use Steam everyday and love the community features. Im asking why would you buy a Steam game thats not on sale when you can get the physical copy online for a fraction of the price? Im also pointing out the disadvantages of a digital copy such as not having the physical material that some consider to be collectible and the possibility of losing all your games in the event that you somehow lose your account.

In other words, youre asking me why Im not choosing to be a fanboy? Whats wrong with questioning? I love and use Steam everyday but that doesnt mean I dont think theres anything wrong with it.

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[QUOTE="ocstew"]I would never ever buy a game near its release on Steam. The fact that they charge the same price as retail is daylight robbery. I only buy from Steam if its much cheaper than the retail version, which has manuals and packaging.Arach666

Thanks for being the first person here to speak honestly.

I don't have this adversarial position some of you have against developers.

Unlike you, who feel "robbed" at paying full price for a game, I WANT to reward developers that create the games I sometimes spend a year looking forward to with what I consider to be fair market value for their product.

For 2-4 titles a year that's $50-$60. For the rest, that will probably be less and will require me to wait for a price drop or a sale. And I'm HAPPY that the developer sees more of my money via digitla distribution, that they would via a retail sale.

I fail to see the outrage in the situation.

I dont understand why so many people buy newly released (non-sale) games on Steam. If youre in the US, Steam rarely offers their games at a lower price than in stores. Even months after release, games can cost much more on Steam than you can find in a retail store or online. In fact, doing a simple search right now on Google, you can find all the front page Steam games like Witcher 2, Fear 3, Shogun 2, etc. for HALF the price, shipped. Hell. even Portal 2 can be found for much less online than on Steam. How come no one in SW mentions this?

Why spend more on a digital copy that costs more? At least with physical copies, you can add the physical box to your shelf or something. You can pull out the disc and install the game instantly if your game data gets corrupted or if you need to reformat. Plus, if your Steam account gets hacked or banned for any reason, every game tied to that account is gone.

Now I get that in some countries Steam provides much better prices, but for all the North American gamers, can you explain why you choose a more expensive Steam copy over a much cheaper physical copy? My eyes bleed everytime I look at Steam prices for new games, yet Im always seeing people praising Steam and digital downloads.

90% of you guys are completely missing the point of this thread.

I never said Steam sucks. I use Steam everyday and love the community features. Im asking why would you buy a Steam game thats not on sale when you can get the physical copy online for a fraction of the price? Im also pointing out the disadvantages of a digital copy such as not having the physical material that many consider to be collectible and the possibility of losing all your games in the event that you somehow lose your account.

USBxDVD

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Thanks for being the first person here to speak honestly.

ferret-gamer

Funny how a thread can turn out the complete opposite when phrased differently. I said the exact same thing the TC said while adding a few extra legitimate disadvantages to Steam. Suddenly everyone is in fanboy mode.

I agree, most new releases can be bought cheaper from retail + Disc > DD but I guess some people prefer to have their games on Steam

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Thanks for being the first person here to speak honestly.

ferret-gamer

I come from a land of $100-120 games.

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oh and goodluck experiencing things like this when it comes to physical media (humble bundle 3), which is steam activatible

USBxDVD

Why would you want to activate a game on Steam when you can just install it and add the shortcut to your Steams list. The only difference is youre not giving Steam ownership of your CD-key. Why would anyone want to do that?

because i like having my games marked as steam purchased since AGAIN, you have the join game option if it has mulitplayer, it counts time played, and it supports achievements. pretty much all the games in that bundle will give you this feature when activated on steam.

also AGAIN, you've been caught talking about stuff you have no idea about, since on top of activating your humble bundle on steam you can still at any point redownload the non-drm versions easily from the link they send you in your email.

so contrary to what you said and believe, it would actually be very dumb NOT to activate your bundle on steam...

I come from a land of $100-120 games.

Vesica_Prime

im guessing you live in australia? if so, man i really feel for you guys. well at least you guys got R-18 passed finally! definitely a victory for gaming!

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oh and goodluck experiencing things like this when it comes to physical media (humble bundle 3), which is steam activatible

Rage010101

Why would you want to activate a game on Steam when you can just install it and add the shortcut to your Steams list. The only difference is youre not giving Steam ownership of your CD-key. Why would anyone want to do that?

because i like having my games marked as steam purchased since AGAIN, you have the join game option if it has mulitplayer, it counts time played, and it supports achievements. pretty much all the games in that bundle will give you this feature when activated on steam.

also AGAIN, you've been caught talking about stuff you have no idea about, since on top of activating your humble bundle on steam you can still at any point redownload the non-drm versions easily from the link they send you in your email.

so contrary to what you said and believe, it would actually be very dumb NOT to activate your bundle on steam...

Sorry for not know anything about Humble Bundle 3. I sincerely apologize.

Also, I have Bad Company 2 on Steam. There is no join game option for it. In fact, Steam does NOTHING but launch the game. Even the updates are handled by the updater.exe. Not all games have Steam integration.

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="Arach666"] You´re implying that the people that disagree with you are being dishonest?

ocstew

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="Arach666"] You´re implying that the people that disagree with you are being dishonest?

ocstew

I never have or will pay full price for a Steam game. Most I paid was 45 for pre ordering The Witcher 2.

I don't pledge any allegiance to Steam, just give me sales.

for me it's a cheap + no discs (big plus).

And if you're asking why PC gaming then the answer because I could tweak the game mechanics if it was broken (e.g. removing lost planet stupid energy bar, etc..), or enable trainers if I don't have the time to grind in RPGs. Also, the graphic mods are huge plus.

You point is valid, which is why I usually buy it during sales or just preorder off of EB Games. That being said, Steam as a gaming hub is one of the best things to happen to PC Gaming since sliced bread.hiphops_savior

[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"]You point is valid, which is why I usually buy it during sales or just preorder off of EB Games. That being said, Steam as a gaming hub is one of the best things to happen to PC Gaming since sliced bread.illmatic87

If you stick it next to a Nvidia card, I heard it makes an awesome grilled cheese sandwich.

I dont understand why so many people buy newly released (non-sale) games on Steam. If youre in the US, Steam rarely offers their games at a lower price than in stores. Even months after release, games can cost much more on Steam than you can find in a retail store or online. In fact, doing a simple search right now on Google, you can find all the front page Steam games like Witcher 2, Fear 3, Shogun 2, etc. for HALF the price, shipped. Hell. even Portal 2 can be found for much less online than on Steam. How come no one in SW mentions this?

Why spend more on a digital copy that costs more? At least with physical copies, you can add the physical box to your shelf or something. You can pull out the disc and install the game instantly if your game data gets corrupted or if you need to reformat. Plus, if your Steam account gets hacked or banned for any reason, every game tied to that account is gone.

Now I get that in some countries Steam provides much better prices, but for all the North American gamers, can you explain why you choose a more expensive Steam copy over a much cheaper physical copy? My eyes bleed everytime I look at Steam prices for new games, yet Im always seeing people praising Steam and digital downloads.

90% of you guys are completely missing the point of this thread.

I never said Steam sucks. I use Steam everyday and love the community features. Im asking why would you buy a Steam game thats not on sale when you can get the physical copy online for a fraction of the price? Im also pointing out the disadvantages of a digital copy such as not having the physical material that many consider to be collectible and the possibility of losing all your games in the event that you somehow lose your account.

USBxDVD

I only buy on Steam when the games I want are on sale for dirt cheap.

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Explain please.

USBxDVD

he highlighted it for you and hes right, you have no idea what you're talking about since gta4 is moddable even if you have it on steam (steam purchased)

The iCEnhancer doesnt work with the Steam version of GTA 4.

Unlike a lot of people i read the post and understand he's not talking about sale items. Black Ops cost more on Steam than any retailer in the UK yet my mates bought it because from what i gather they are too lazy to go into town and save £10... I don't quite understand why people buy on steam either when Amazon can get it to your letterbox for cheaper and with free delivery. Fanboyism i recon: "Im a PC gamer so if i don;t buy from steam i'm corrupting my status!". Kind of thing.

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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] It isn't uncommon for games on steam to have a pre order discount like Deus Ex has. And even now there are plenty of upcoming games at the same price as the retail version. RAGE, Dead Island, Driver for example. Steam always has the base retail price for upcoming and new games if they don't already have a discount. They never charge more than retail.

ferret-gamer

Pre-order discounts should be a given. Steam should have to give pre-order discounts to persuade us to buy from them considering the disadvantages of digital downloads. And about the upcoming releases being priced the same as retail. Theres nothing special about that. That too should be the very least they can do considering the disadvantages of digital downloads and benefits of owning a physical copy of the game. Steam never charges more than the MSRP. But they definitely do charge more than retail.

http://www.amazon.com/Witcher-2-Assassins-Kings-Pc/dp/B003VJNPPE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1311780171&sr=8-1

Price: $39.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping.

Not every game is published by EA.

Not every game is published by EA.

topgunmv

Even less games are like The Witcher 2.

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Not every game is published by EA.

110million

Even less games are like The Witcher 2.

Any game that has more than a 3 page manual is worth getting the hardcopy @ the same price.

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Not every game is published by EA.

topgunmv

Even less games are like The Witcher 2.

Any game that has more than a 3 page manual is worth getting the hardcopy @ the same price.

I only buy on Steam when the games I want are on sale for dirt cheap.

AmazonTreeBoa

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Even less games are like The Witcher 2.

madmidnight

Any game that has more than a 3 page manual is worth getting the hardcopy @ the same price.

That probably speaks more to the games you play than anything. Try jumping into arma2 without going through the manual.

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LINK"This currently DOES NOT work on the steam version". Ive tried installing the exact version and it didnt work properly. It might work now using a newer version but it didnt before. And compatibility will be broken if Rockstar releases a patch that you dont have a choice whether to install or not install.

USBxDVD

With the non-Steam version, there would be no need for the word "currently" It would be "has and always will work". Its nice that you ignored that point though and focused on the hope that the modders would come to the rescue.

That probably speaks more to the games you play than anything. Try jumping into arma2 without going through the manual.

topgunmv

I got X3:Reunion, off steam, comes with a digital manual, I can open it on one monitor and the game on another for any cheat sheets and stuff, I find it easier.

Steam sales.

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That probably speaks more to the games you play than anything. Try jumping into arma2 without going through the manual.

110million

I got X3:Reunion, off steam, comes with a digital manual, I can open it on one monitor and the game on another for any cheat sheets and stuff, I find it easier.

Unfortunately I only roll with one monitor :(

It was not fun printing out europa universalis 3's manual.

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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] And sometimes steam is cheaper than retail. Deus Ex: HR is $45 on steam, but in stores or on amazon it is $50

ferret-gamer

And thats one good exception.

Unfortunately I only roll with one monitor :(

It was not fun printing out europa universalis 3's manual.

topgunmv

I did for a long time too, after I had a co-op work placement for almost a year with 2 monitors, it was hard to go back to one, so I ended up getting another. :P

I love how people think that a value of a game is given to it by being put onto a round piece of plastic, that's hilarious.