Why do we bag on the PS3, but not the Wii?

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#51 ZebethOrZebes
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[QUOTE="ZebethOrZebes"][QUOTE="XTy"]

[QUOTE="ZebethOrZebes"][QUOTE="cofn42"][QUOTE="ZebethOrZebes"][QUOTE="Timstuff"][QUOTE="Mass_Effect"]People don't bash the Wii so much any more because its most likely going to win this genUptown

But why would they think that, if the game library so far is even worse than PS3's?

WarioWare and Zelda are both rated higher than the highest rated PS3 game, and Nintendo has even put out downloadable content that has received ratings almost as high as Resistance.

Fair enough, but I do not see how a game that is 20 years old gets a 9+ rating here (Mario) A simple rehash of old games for the price they are trying to get is truely sad. Come on $10 for super mario 64, get real.

You made me do it. Link to the Past = 8.5 Super Mario World = 8.5 Super Mario Bros. = 8.3 Those games are all within 0.3 points of the highest rated PS3 game.

Yeah, well the PS3 owns those, since I saw my uncle pop in God OF War, since the PS3 is BC.
Bad logic FTW.

Wii has backward compatibility to the GameCube, so that argument is moot.

GC is NOT > PS2 and PS1

You're right. But I don't have to pay craploads of money to play PS2 and PS1 games. I can just get a PS2 for the cost of a PS3 game.
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#52 AvinashTyagi
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Because people that can't afford to buy an Acura NSX will tell you they can get the same performance out of a Honda Civic Si, for cheaper...

People that can't afford a nice HDTV will tell you they can get the same picture quality out of their monitor with a VGA cable...

But the funny thing is, a lot of people will tell you they NEED this and NEED that to enjoy gaming technology.

Since when did playing videogames and technology become more about NECESSITY than INDULGENCE?
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I could afford a PS3 but I still think it sucks for its price, talk to me when its $250
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#53 Uptown
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[QUOTE="Uptown"][QUOTE="ZebethOrZebes"][QUOTE="XTy"]

[QUOTE="ZebethOrZebes"][QUOTE="cofn42"][QUOTE="ZebethOrZebes"][QUOTE="Timstuff"][QUOTE="Mass_Effect"]People don't bash the Wii so much any more because its most likely going to win this genZebethOrZebes

But why would they think that, if the game library so far is even worse than PS3's?

WarioWare and Zelda are both rated higher than the highest rated PS3 game, and Nintendo has even put out downloadable content that has received ratings almost as high as Resistance.

Fair enough, but I do not see how a game that is 20 years old gets a 9+ rating here (Mario) A simple rehash of old games for the price they are trying to get is truely sad. Come on $10 for super mario 64, get real.

You made me do it. Link to the Past = 8.5 Super Mario World = 8.5 Super Mario Bros. = 8.3 Those games are all within 0.3 points of the highest rated PS3 game.

Yeah, well the PS3 owns those, since I saw my uncle pop in God OF War, since the PS3 is BC.
Bad logic FTW.

Wii has backward compatibility to the GameCube, so that argument is moot.

GC is NOT > PS2 and PS1

You're right. But I don't have to pay craploads of money to play PS2 and PS1 games. I can just get a PS2 for the cost of a PS3 game.

or you can pay craploads for a next-gen console with a bucketload of features the Wii can only dream of.  Play PS2 and PS1 titles and downloadable PS3 games as well. Plus Demos.

Wii plays what? VC Games pending when the good ones are released....GC discs...and GC Games with Motion Controls.  I have all 3 systems, and Wii is not in the same league as the PS3 when it comes to tech, and quality overall.  Wii will always be a secondary console. just like the GC was.  Voting for which i like better, cats or dogs as an online feature is not my idea of amazing.

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#54 ZebethOrZebes
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[QUOTE="ZebethOrZebes"][QUOTE="Uptown"][QUOTE="ZebethOrZebes"][QUOTE="XTy"]

[QUOTE="ZebethOrZebes"][QUOTE="cofn42"][QUOTE="ZebethOrZebes"][QUOTE="Timstuff"][QUOTE="Mass_Effect"]People don't bash the Wii so much any more because its most likely going to win this genUptown

But why would they think that, if the game library so far is even worse than PS3's?

WarioWare and Zelda are both rated higher than the highest rated PS3 game, and Nintendo has even put out downloadable content that has received ratings almost as high as Resistance.

Fair enough, but I do not see how a game that is 20 years old gets a 9+ rating here (Mario) A simple rehash of old games for the price they are trying to get is truely sad. Come on $10 for super mario 64, get real.

You made me do it. Link to the Past = 8.5 Super Mario World = 8.5 Super Mario Bros. = 8.3 Those games are all within 0.3 points of the highest rated PS3 game.

Yeah, well the PS3 owns those, since I saw my uncle pop in God OF War, since the PS3 is BC.
Bad logic FTW.

Wii has backward compatibility to the GameCube, so that argument is moot.

GC is NOT > PS2 and PS1

You're right. But I don't have to pay craploads of money to play PS2 and PS1 games. I can just get a PS2 for the cost of a PS3 game.

or you can pay craploads for a next-gen console with a bucketload of features the Wii can only dream of.  Play PS2 and PS1 titles and downloadable PS3 games as well. Plus Demos.

Wii plays what? VC Games pending when the good ones are released....GC discs...and GC Games with Motion Controls.  I have all 3 systems, and Wii is not in the same league as the PS3 when it comes to tech, and quality overall.  Wii will always be a secondary console. just like the GC was

The PS3 will not even be a tertiary purchase for me, since I can already watch videos on my DVD player and computer, and look at photographs with my eyes. None of the features of the PS3 warrant the price for my wallet. Then again, for a person who can afford all 3, that's not really a question here. What it boils down to is value to the consumer, and only the individual consumer knows what's valuable to him or her. To me, the Wii is more worth it for the cost.
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#55 cofn42
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[QUOTE="cofn42"][QUOTE="Shadow_op"][QUOTE="ZebethOrZebes"][QUOTE="cofn42"][QUOTE="ZebethOrZebes"]Well, the Wii will be getting a steady stream of games starting with next week's SSX Blur. Also, it already has a AAA and costs 50% less money to buy and the games are cheaper too.neogeo419
Exactly the same can be said about the PS3. It has a AAA title (R: FOM) and will be releasing a stead stream of games from VF5 on until May with Lair. There are a dozen good games coming between now and then.

No, it has an AA title. And no, it doesn't ALSO cost 50% less than the PS3. It IS the PS3! Moreover, the games are still more expensive.

I think he was a bit confused....especially calling Resistance a AAA :P

Matter of opinion I guess. Some sites call R:FOM a AAA title, personally I found very little fault with it, Physics wise there is nothing on the market today that can touch it (Gears included) Graphics it is on Par with Gears (Darker does not make graphics better guys)

You lost it there.

Again, your opinion. I just played through both R:FOM this week, and the last half of GeoW and I found some graphical fault with GeoW. Now fanboys will never admit there are issues with the holy grail of games, but on a few occasions (like the explosion at the end) the graphics get a pixelated and blotchy. Many of the shadowes that fall on Marcus's face exhibit the same effect. They tried to hide a lot of detail with making the game dark. Just walk up to a wall or an object and take a hard look up close, you will see what I mean. R:FOM was mostly a bright game and had tremendous attention to detail, that even under close scrutiny did not look lackluster.
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#56 t2wave
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The Wii isn't viewed on the same level as the PS3 or 360. Some would even say it's on a whole new level, for better or for worse.
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#57 Voryn_Dagoth
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Wii is in as much a game drought as PS3, but the Wii is cheaper, and they games are more fun overall. And since it is cheap and fun to play it. it makes it an impulse buy, and therefore, hard to make fun of. The PS3 is bagged because of Sony and the cows. Honestly the cows brought this on themselves.....
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#58 glitchgeeman
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It's more of Sony itself than the PS3 personally. I think the PS3 is a pretty capable machine (albeit lacking in games, having a bad price, and overall not proving itself to be a decent console to me yet), but as of now, it doesn't seem to be in a very good spot. That combined with Sony's arrogant claims, like that guy who said he's pay $1200 for a PS3. That kinda thing is unprofessional and just plain stubborn and arrogant and I really don't like that in a company.

Normally, I could ignore that arrogance, but that combined with the lack of any games that appeal to me on the PS3 make me simply not like it.

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#59 camzaman
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So you're saying Red Steel, Rayman, Monkeyball, Elebits, Madden, and now Sonic and soon SSX Blur is bad selection, not to mention the fun games that are deemed utter excrement by snobby fanboys and GS reviews....???
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#60 Iyethar
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I own at least 60 SNES cartridges, and over 250 NES cartridges...

Now, with that being said, I feel like I have the right to run that software using any piece of hardware I choose. I will not be buying that stuff again over the Virtual Console because I already own that stuff.
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Smart move.  If you've got the technology and the inclination to do your own format-shifting, Wii VCS is a much less desirable feature.  On the other hand, Nintendo doesn't owe you the convenience of VCS encapsulated ROMs or access to their download servers just because you own a game cartridge.  The cartridge will still play in its original hardware - it's not as if it was somehow more useful before the Wii or the VCS copy existed.
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#61 LoG-Sacrament
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my theory is that price difference is part of it. however, most gamers last gen bought a ps2, but not many bought a gcn. there are many more ppl who have yet to play gcn's games and that is what is keeping them busy.
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#62 shsonline
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So you're saying Red Steel, Rayman, Monkeyball, Elebits, Madden, and now Sonic and soon SSX Blur is bad selection, not to mention the fun games that are deemed utter excrement by snobby fanboys and GS reviews....???camzaman


Those games are solid to decent games, but nothing that's buzzworthy and if they were as "fun" as you say they were they would have gotten better scores from the general media. They may have been fun to you, but apparently not universally fun.
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#63 magiciandude
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Because the PS3 is so far doing the worst of the 3.

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#64 reilo
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[QUOTE="farnham"]

VC Games FTL. If you are going to use VC games, then I can list off all of my PS1/PS2 games which trump that Wii list to pieces.
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#65 CajunShooter
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[QUOTE="ZebethOrZebes"]Better physics and better graphics do not necessarily = a better game. I for one wouldn't spend $660 Canadian + tax + the cost of an HDTV just to play an alternate history FPS.



Believe it or not but when you pay $660 for that system you aren't just allowing yourself to buy the one good game out at the moment, but the hundreds of games that will be made 8 years from now. I don't know why people constantly say why pay $660 for one game? There are over 300 games currently in development for the PS3 90% will be released within 07 or 08.
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#66 pilotc
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Because cows are more annoying than Sheep.  They were hyping PS3 alot more and deserve the verbal bashing.
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[QUOTE="darth_paki"]Well first of all, I'd like to correct a few things. The Wii's launch was an impressive launch, one of the best (if not THE best) in a long, long while. Next, my Wii isn't collecting dust, although I know there is a huge drought right now, there is enough exciting party games for I and my friends (gamers and casuals) to play until all the heavy hitters come out. Speakin' of heavy hitters, the Wii's lineup of games for '07 surpasses the PS3's by a long shot for most people. I'm VERY excited for MGS4, and Lair looks kind of cool, but the Wii has atleast (there is much more) ten titles that I just have to buy without a dought in my mind. And, alot of people see a great future for the Wii and the possibilities that it wins the console wars are high. And lastly, it is outselling the PS3 like crazy, and everyone seems to take notice and want one. That my friend is why people aren't picking on Nintendo...Kinitari
Which.... which 10 titles are these? I Only have like, 3 or 4. DQ:Swords/SSBB/FF:CC/FireEmblem. For my PS3, off the top of my head (I wont have to look up a games list) Lair, Motorstorm, Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Assassins Creed, GTAIV, Star wars: Force unleashed (if it makes it this year).

That's a pretty impressive list for the PS3. I'm also looking forward to SUper paper Mario world cuz the paper mario games are consistantly great. there are more that i can't think of. I think that if Team ninja put the time into it Ninja Gaiden could be amazing on the Wii. anyone else see the possibilities?
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#68 MikeE21286
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[QUOTE="farnham"] reilo
VC Games FTL. If you are going to use VC games, then I can list off all of my PS1/PS2 games which trump that Wii list to pieces.

I second this man.  I mean VC can not be counted in AA/AAA discussion like some people have tried to do.  It doesn't work that way.

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#69 StealthSting
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Price, Sales and also because its using a different approach then a console thats been 1 year on the market. PS3 has also received constant bad news in almost any area, the most recent being the Europe backwards compatability problem.
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#70 nintendo-4life
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Wii has a superb VC support, along with games like sonic and the secret rings and warioware, the games for the Wii are here, people just like to complain because it doesn't have mario in it, and if it does they complain about using mario too much >_>
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#71 nintendo-4life
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Wii has a superb VC support, along with games like sonic and the secret rings and warioware, the games for the Wii are here, people just like to complain because it doesn't have mario in it, and if it does they complain about using mario too much >_>
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[QUOTE="CajunShooter"][QUOTE="ZebethOrZebes"]Better physics and better graphics do not necessarily = a better game. I for one wouldn't spend $660 Canadian + tax + the cost of an HDTV just to play an alternate history FPS.



Believe it or not but when you pay $660 for that system you aren't just allowing yourself to buy the one good game out at the moment, but the hundreds of games that will be made 8 years from now. I don't know why people constantly say why pay $660 for one game? There are over 300 games currently in development for the PS3 90% will be released within 07 or 08.

Oh yeah? Where are you getting these nujmbers? I somehow find it hard to believe that 280 games will be released for the PS3 over the next 22 months. That's 3 games a week.