Why do Xbox and 360 owners only care for Halo/GeoW?

This is not a bash, just a very good question...

If you haven't noticed, the Xbox and Xbox360 are not shooter consoles like some people speculate. Infact they hold some of the greatest games in other genres. Ninja Gaiden, Forza, DOA, Splinter Cell, Fable, and KOTOR. Such great variety, yet, Halo outsells each one of those games 10:1.

Now they are obviously a lot more car racing sim fans than a wimpy one mil. Gran Turismo games sold 22+ million copies on the PS2, and Forza is arguably the better game. Yet sales show that despite this, Xbox owners just gobbled up their Halo. More than 1/3 Xbox owners have a copy of Halo.

So now here we are in next gen. And great games in other genres continue to be released for the 360. This time the userbase is only around 10 million opposed to the Xbox's 25 mil, and still -- other great games pale in comparison to the sales of games like GeOW.

The only thing that suprised me was the sales of Elder Scrolls (3 million).

People on gaming forums such as these who own 360s probably own a variet of genres, beacuse they probably love video games in general to be on a gaming forum. But it seems like your brethren in the real world don't think like you do - and tend to only buy games like Madden, GTA, GeOW, and Halo.

So lemmings, how can you say so confidently that games like Ninja Gaiden 2 and Mass Effect will doom the PS3 in 2008, when it can be clearly seen from MS platform history that the games simply don't appeal to Xbox owners. There is nothing wrong with the games, they are amazing -- but the consumers of MS consoles are pretty weird if you ask me.

Why do 360 owners overlook other great genres? Since no one here is really a "casual" 360 owner, I want to hear everyone's theories on this.

Because they are the two flagship series. Duh!

why do you care about the bouncer? ( underrated, I know)

I care for Ninja Gaiden, Halo, Gears of WAr, Dead Rising, Fable and Mass Effect.-Sora

You didn't read the whole post did you? People on this gaming forum don't really destroy this obvious observation. You are on a gaming forum man, you love video games, you probably love almost every genre. I am talking about the real world though, and the real world like Halo 10x more than Ninja Gaiden.

[QUOTE="-Sora"]I care for Ninja Gaiden, Halo, Gears of WAr, Dead Rising, Fable and Mass Effect.Koalakommander

You didn't read the whole post did you? People on this gaming forum don't really destroy this obvious observation. You are on a gaming forum man, you love video games, you probably love almost every genre. I am talking about the real world though, and the real world like Halo 10x more than Ninja Gaiden.

When I'm out in the stores working I hear teenaged boys talk about Halo 3 and never anything else on the 360. Why? I really do think that game makes people buy the 360 more than xfans realize. The PS3 sells for its variety of good games and not just 1 title nearly as much so as the 360 does. casey7672

Final Fantasy and Metal Gear Solid

My theory:

All the genres are represented well by 360 fans.

Gears sold insanely because of the graphical benchmark it set.

Halo will sell even better becasue believe it or not, it's just that good.

In other words, you can't say thefans only buy shooters because other shooters only sell as well as Forza and the other games you mentioned. Those two games are simply that good.

BTW, Fable was the third best selling Xbox game.

The PS3 sells casey7672

My theory:

All the genres are represented well by 360 fans.

Gears sold insanely because of the graphical benchmark it set.

Halo will sell even better becasue believe it or not, it's just that good.

In other words, you can't say thefans only buy shooters because other shooters only sell as well as Forza and the other games you mentioned. Those two games are simply that good.

BTW, Fable was the third best selling Xbox game.

Spartan070

I don't know about you, but Forza 2 was the best damn car racing sim I have ever played, and I am a Gran Turismo fan.

Car racing sims sold like mad on the PS2, but the better car racing sim on the 360 was outsold by an average shooter -- Lost Planet.

See what I am saying?

When I'm out in the stores working I hear teenaged boys talk about Halo 3 and never anything else on the 360. Why? I really do think that game makes people buy the 360 more than xfans realize. The PS3 sells for its variety of good games and not just 1 title nearly as much so as the 360 does. casey7672

So explain why the top selling game for the PS3 console is a FPS.

My theory:

All the genres are represented well by 360 fans.

Gears sold insanely because of the graphical benchmark it set.

Halo will sell even better becasue believe it or not, it's just that good.

In other words, you can't say thefans only buy shooters because other shooters only sell as well as Forza and the other games you mentioned. Those two games are simply that good.

BTW, Fable was the third best selling Xbox game.

Spartan070

"Just that good" is rather subjective don't you think

I think that mentioning the games popularity (which isn't just because of how good it is) would be a better way to go

[QUOTE="casey7672"]When I'm out in the stores working I hear teenaged boys talk about Halo 3 and never anything else on the 360. Why? I really do think that game makes people buy the 360 more than xfans realize. The PS3 sells for its variety of good games and not just 1 title nearly as much so as the 360 does. Yellow_Rose

So explain why the top selling game for the PS3 console is a FPS.

Gee I don't know, maybe because it was the only good title in an abysmal launch library?

Fable sold 2 million copies and Halo 2 sold 9 million. thats 4.5:1 not 10:1 for the record.

and 3rd party titles sell better on X360 then any other console this generation. so those games will grow in appreciation. Ninja Gaiden II will sell mre then one, especially with MS publishing the game.

[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

[QUOTE="casey7672"]When I'm out in the stores working I hear teenaged boys talk about Halo 3 and never anything else on the 360. Why? I really do think that game makes people buy the 360 more than xfans realize. The PS3 sells for its variety of good games and not just 1 title nearly as much so as the 360 does. Koalakommander

So explain why the top selling game for the PS3 console is a FPS.

Gee I don't know, maybe because it was the only good title in an abysmal launch library?

[/QUOTE

So what you seem to be saying is the "variety" that the PS3 offers is rather subpar, am I right?

[QUOTE="Koalakommander"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

[QUOTE="casey7672"]When I'm out in the stores working I hear teenaged boys talk about Halo 3 and never anything else on the 360. Why? I really do think that game makes people buy the 360 more than xfans realize. The PS3 sells for its variety of good games and not just 1 title nearly as much so as the 360 does. Yellow_Rose

So explain why the top selling game for the PS3 console is a FPS.

Gee I don't know, maybe because it was the only good title in an abysmal launch library?

[/QUOTE

So what you seem to be saying is the "variety" that the PS3 offers is rather subpar, am I right?

woah woah, this thread is not a pro PS3 argument. The PS3 library is weak, I never called it strong.

This is strictly about the 360 and the userbase's taste.

Cause 360 owners are American and american like games where you shoot something till it dies. Forza isn't better then GT no wai -.-... maybe better then juice but forza will always be good...jus not better then GT. Without GT there would be no Forza.Hitamaru-homia

Forza 1 = 9.2

Forza 2 = 9.2

What did the last Gran Turismo score here again?

[QUOTE="Hitamaru-homia"]Cause 360 owners are American and american like games where you shoot something till it dies. Forza isn't better then GT no wai -.-... maybe better then juice but forza will always be good...jus not better then GT. Without GT there would be no Forza.Yellow_Rose

Forza 1 = 9.2

Forza 2 = 9.2

What did the last Gran Turismo score here again?

this is not a what game is better argument. Stay on topic.

woah woah, this thread is not a pro PS3 argument. The PS3 library is weak, I never called it strong.

This is strictly about the 360 and the userbase's taste.

Koalakommander

I brought it up because you answered a question directed at another poster who brought up the PS3.

In any case, according to vgchartz.com, the 360 has 18 million sellers and less than half are shooters>

Other type of games sell well on the console.

[QUOTE="Hitamaru-homia"]Cause 360 owners are American and american like games where you shoot something till it dies. Forza isn't better then GT no wai -.-... maybe better then juice but forza will always be good...jus not better then GT. Without GT there would be no Forza.Yellow_Rose

Forza 1 = 9.2

Forza 2 = 9.2

What did the last Gran Turismo score here again?

8.9

The difference between Halo and a game like Ninja Gaiden is accessiblity. Halo is very easy to play and is fun. Ninja Gaiden kicks your ass, takes your sandwich and laughs at you while it eats it.

People love the quick and easy pick up games. It precisely why the Wii is doing so well and Halo enjoys it's success for the very same reason. Halo and Gears, also while being somwhat easy, are very good games. That helps.

[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

[QUOTE="Hitamaru-homia"]Cause 360 owners are American and american like games where you shoot something till it dies. Forza isn't better then GT no wai -.-... maybe better then juice but forza will always be good...jus not better then GT. Without GT there would be no Forza.Koalakommander

Forza 1 = 9.2

Forza 2 = 9.2

What did the last Gran Turismo score here again?

this is not a what game is better argument. Stay on topic.

Again, you're answering a question directed at someone else.

I think Mass Effect is going to be a lot bigger than you think. Just look at how well Bioshock did already which was released in August. Mass Effect has a lot more hype and awareness than that game did andis releasing at abetter time with an even larger userbase.Don't be surprised when it reaches 3 million. As far as Ninja Gaiden 2 goes ...... it is unlikely that it will be a huge title because of the sales of the first and its legendary difficulty that will keep people away.

This is not a bash, just a very good question...

If you haven't noticed, the Xbox and Xbox360 are not shooter consoles like some people speculate. Infact they hold some of the greatest games in other genres. Ninja Gaiden, Forza, DOA, Splinter Cell, Fable, and KOTOR. Such great variety, yet, Halo outsells each one of those games 10:1.

Now they are obviously a lot more car racing sim fans than a wimpy one mil. Gran Turismo games sold 22+ million copies on the PS2, and Forza is arguably the better game. Yet sales show that despite this, Xbox owners just gobbled up their Halo. More than 1/3 Xbox owners have a copy of Halo.

So now here we are in next gen. And great games in other genres continue to be released for the 360. This time the userbase is only around 10 million opposed to the Xbox's 25 mil, and still -- other great games pale in comparison to the sales of games like GeOW.

The only thing that suprised me was the sales of Elder Scrolls (3 million).

People on gaming forums such as these who own 360s probably own a variet of genres, beacuse they probably love video games in general to be on a gaming forum. But it seems like your brethren in the real world don't think like you do - and tend to only buy games like Madden, GTA, GeOW, and Halo.

So lemmings, how can you say so confidently that games like Ninja Gaiden 2 and Mass Effect will doom the PS3 in 2008, when it can be clearly seen from MS platform history that the games simply don't appeal to Xbox owners. There is nothing wrong with the games, they are amazing -- but the consumers of MS consoles are pretty weird if you ask me.

Why do 360 owners overlook other great genres? Since no one here is really a "casual" 360 owner, I want to hear everyone's theories on this.

Koalakommander

Forza 1 sold over 1 million copies

Forza 2 just recently sold over 1 million copies.. expect that total to rise to 1.5-2.0 million copies sold

Dead Rising,Oblivion,Guitar Hero 3,Saints Row have all sold a Million+..

/thread

[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

This is not a bash, just a very good question...

If you haven't noticed, the Xbox and Xbox360 are not shooter consoles like some people speculate. Infact they hold some of the greatest games in other genres. Ninja Gaiden, Forza, DOA, Splinter Cell, Fable, and KOTOR. Such great variety, yet, Halo outsells each one of those games 10:1.

Now they are obviously a lot more car racing sim fans than a wimpy one mil. Gran Turismo games sold 22+ million copies on the PS2, and Forza is arguably the better game. Yet sales show that despite this, Xbox owners just gobbled up their Halo. More than 1/3 Xbox owners have a copy of Halo.

So now here we are in next gen. And great games in other genres continue to be released for the 360. This time the userbase is only around 10 million opposed to the Xbox's 25 mil, and still -- other great games pale in comparison to the sales of games like GeOW.

The only thing that suprised me was the sales of Elder Scrolls (3 million).

People on gaming forums such as these who own 360s probably own a variet of genres, beacuse they probably love video games in general to be on a gaming forum. But it seems like your brethren in the real world don't think like you do - and tend to only buy games like Madden, GTA, GeOW, and Halo.

So lemmings, how can you say so confidently that games like Ninja Gaiden 2 and Mass Effect will doom the PS3 in 2008, when it can be clearly seen from MS platform history that the games simply don't appeal to Xbox owners. There is nothing wrong with the games, they are amazing -- but the consumers of MS consoles are pretty weird if you ask me.

Why do 360 owners overlook other great genres? Since no one here is really a "casual" 360 owner, I want to hear everyone's theories on this.

GGNoRematch

Forza 1 sold over 1 million copies

Forza 2 just recently sold over 1 million copies.. expect that total to rise to 1.5-2.0 million copies sold

Dead Rising,Oblivion,Guitar Hero 3,Saints Row have all sold a Million+..

/thread

And Halo 3 will sell 10 million+. How is that /thread?

Forza is barely passed one million with a 25 mil userbase, what makes you think Forza 2 will sky rocket to 2 mil with a 10 million userbase?

[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Koalakommander"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

[QUOTE="casey7672"]When I'm out in the stores working I hear teenaged boys talk about Halo 3 and never anything else on the 360. Why? I really do think that game makes people buy the 360 more than xfans realize. The PS3 sells for its variety of good games and not just 1 title nearly as much so as the 360 does. Koalakommander

So explain why the top selling game for the PS3 console is a FPS.

Gee I don't know, maybe because it was the only good title in an abysmal launch library?

[/QUOTE

So what you seem to be saying is the "variety" that the PS3 offers is rather subpar, am I right?

woah woah, this thread is not a pro PS3 argument. The PS3 library is weak, I never called it strong.

This is strictly about the 360 and the userbase's taste.

Which isn't good going by these games. There is no defending that the 360 is a shooter magnet, and it's wearing thin.

I will probably get a 360 in a year or 2 when Too Human will be released. I also want Ninja Gaiden 2 and maybe Lost Odyssey.

I never thought that I would buy an xbox one day, but I want to play Ninja Gaiden and some DOA games that I missed.

[QUOTE="GGNoRematch"][QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

This is not a bash, just a very good question...

If you haven't noticed, the Xbox and Xbox360 are not shooter consoles like some people speculate. Infact they hold some of the greatest games in other genres. Ninja Gaiden, Forza, DOA, Splinter Cell, Fable, and KOTOR. Such great variety, yet, Halo outsells each one of those games 10:1.

Now they are obviously a lot more car racing sim fans than a wimpy one mil. Gran Turismo games sold 22+ million copies on the PS2, and Forza is arguably the better game. Yet sales show that despite this, Xbox owners just gobbled up their Halo. More than 1/3 Xbox owners have a copy of Halo.

So now here we are in next gen. And great games in other genres continue to be released for the 360. This time the userbase is only around 10 million opposed to the Xbox's 25 mil, and still -- other great games pale in comparison to the sales of games like GeOW.

The only thing that suprised me was the sales of Elder Scrolls (3 million).

People on gaming forums such as these who own 360s probably own a variet of genres, beacuse they probably love video games in general to be on a gaming forum. But it seems like your brethren in the real world don't think like you do - and tend to only buy games like Madden, GTA, GeOW, and Halo.

So lemmings, how can you say so confidently that games like Ninja Gaiden 2 and Mass Effect will doom the PS3 in 2008, when it can be clearly seen from MS platform history that the games simply don't appeal to Xbox owners. There is nothing wrong with the games, they are amazing -- but the consumers of MS consoles are pretty weird if you ask me.

Why do 360 owners overlook other great genres? Since no one here is really a "casual" 360 owner, I want to hear everyone's theories on this.

Koalakommander

Forza 1 sold over 1 million copies

Forza 2 just recently sold over 1 million copies.. expect that total to rise to 1.5-2.0 million copies sold

Dead Rising,Oblivion,Guitar Hero 3,Saints Row have all sold a Million+..

/thread

And Halo 3 will sell 10 million+. How is that /thread?

Forza is barely passed one million with a 25 mil userbase, what makes you think Forza 2 will sky rocket to 2 mil with a 10 million userbase?

Maybe I'm not reading carefully enough, but this seems to be veering off-topic fast

[QUOTE="Koalakommander"][QUOTE="GGNoRematch"][QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

This is not a bash, just a very good question...

If you haven't noticed, the Xbox and Xbox360 are not shooter consoles like some people speculate. Infact they hold some of the greatest games in other genres. Ninja Gaiden, Forza, DOA, Splinter Cell, Fable, and KOTOR. Such great variety, yet, Halo outsells each one of those games 10:1.

Now they are obviously a lot more car racing sim fans than a wimpy one mil. Gran Turismo games sold 22+ million copies on the PS2, and Forza is arguably the better game. Yet sales show that despite this, Xbox owners just gobbled up their Halo. More than 1/3 Xbox owners have a copy of Halo.

So now here we are in next gen. And great games in other genres continue to be released for the 360. This time the userbase is only around 10 million opposed to the Xbox's 25 mil, and still -- other great games pale in comparison to the sales of games like GeOW.

The only thing that suprised me was the sales of Elder Scrolls (3 million).

People on gaming forums such as these who own 360s probably own a variet of genres, beacuse they probably love video games in general to be on a gaming forum. But it seems like your brethren in the real world don't think like you do - and tend to only buy games like Madden, GTA, GeOW, and Halo.

So lemmings, how can you say so confidently that games like Ninja Gaiden 2 and Mass Effect will doom the PS3 in 2008, when it can be clearly seen from MS platform history that the games simply don't appeal to Xbox owners. There is nothing wrong with the games, they are amazing -- but the consumers of MS consoles are pretty weird if you ask me.

Why do 360 owners overlook other great genres? Since no one here is really a "casual" 360 owner, I want to hear everyone's theories on this.

Dragonblade01

Forza 1 sold over 1 million copies

Forza 2 just recently sold over 1 million copies.. expect that total to rise to 1.5-2.0 million copies sold

Dead Rising,Oblivion,Guitar Hero 3,Saints Row have all sold a Million+..

/thread

And Halo 3 will sell 10 million+. How is that /thread?

Forza is barely passed one million with a 25 mil userbase, what makes you think Forza 2 will sky rocket to 2 mil with a 10 million userbase?

Maybe I'm not reading carefully enough, but this seems to be veering off-topic fast

yeah, i guess my argument is destroyed because Dead Rising (casual game) sold 2 mil. oh no.

[QUOTE="Dragonblade01"][QUOTE="Koalakommander"][QUOTE="GGNoRematch"][QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

This is not a bash, just a very good question...

If you haven't noticed, the Xbox and Xbox360 are not shooter consoles like some people speculate. Infact they hold some of the greatest games in other genres. Ninja Gaiden, Forza, DOA, Splinter Cell, Fable, and KOTOR. Such great variety, yet, Halo outsells each one of those games 10:1.

Now they are obviously a lot more car racing sim fans than a wimpy one mil. Gran Turismo games sold 22+ million copies on the PS2, and Forza is arguably the better game. Yet sales show that despite this, Xbox owners just gobbled up their Halo. More than 1/3 Xbox owners have a copy of Halo.

So now here we are in next gen. And great games in other genres continue to be released for the 360. This time the userbase is only around 10 million opposed to the Xbox's 25 mil, and still -- other great games pale in comparison to the sales of games like GeOW.

The only thing that suprised me was the sales of Elder Scrolls (3 million).

People on gaming forums such as these who own 360s probably own a variet of genres, beacuse they probably love video games in general to be on a gaming forum. But it seems like your brethren in the real world don't think like you do - and tend to only buy games like Madden, GTA, GeOW, and Halo.

So lemmings, how can you say so confidently that games like Ninja Gaiden 2 and Mass Effect will doom the PS3 in 2008, when it can be clearly seen from MS platform history that the games simply don't appeal to Xbox owners. There is nothing wrong with the games, they are amazing -- but the consumers of MS consoles are pretty weird if you ask me.

Why do 360 owners overlook other great genres? Since no one here is really a "casual" 360 owner, I want to hear everyone's theories on this.

Koalakommander

Forza 1 sold over 1 million copies

Forza 2 just recently sold over 1 million copies.. expect that total to rise to 1.5-2.0 million copies sold

Dead Rising,Oblivion,Guitar Hero 3,Saints Row have all sold a Million+..

/thread

And Halo 3 will sell 10 million+. How is that /thread?

Forza is barely passed one million with a 25 mil userbase, what makes you think Forza 2 will sky rocket to 2 mil with a 10 million userbase?

Maybe I'm not reading carefully enough, but this seems to be veering off-topic fast

yeah, i guess my argument is destroyed because Dead Rising (casual game) sold 2 mil. oh no.

oh well, not like this is an uncommon sight in system wars, lol

[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

[QUOTE="-Sora"]I care for Ninja Gaiden, Halo, Gears of WAr, Dead Rising, Fable and Mass Effect.-Sora

You didn't read the whole post did you? People on this gaming forum don't really destroy this obvious observation. You are on a gaming forum man, you love video games, you probably love almost every genre. I am talking about the real world though, and the real world like Halo 10x more than Ninja Gaiden.

That's because in the real world, a lot of 360 owners seem to be major casuals.

because the userbase is going to go up? darh..

What does Halo3 selling 10 million copies have to do with Forza2 selling an amazing 1 million copies in around 3 months..

Want to guess how many games on the PS3 have sold a Million copies? 2..

Want to guess how many Wii games have sold a million copies? 7

The Xbox has 23 games that have already sold a million copies.. Mass Effect will sell close to or even surpass Oblivion.. BioShock is on it's way to 1 million+.. PGR4 is going to sell 1 million +..

of course I guess you think every game should sell 10 million games right?

stop being a stupid fanboy..Your logic is so stupid..

Your logic is basically saying..

The PS2 version of GTA games sold a combined 40 million copies and 14 million a peice.. so why can't every good PS2 game sell that much?

Would you stop turning this into a PS3 bash? I am strictly talking about the 360. The PS3 is an awful state, I don't know why people are buying it now. Every month's NPD suprises me because the PS3 sales should be 0.

Forza 2 seems to have leveled off if you ask me. If Forza came out like 2 years ago and is still at 1 million, it is basically finished.

The big selling games on the PS2 had a much smaller ration which means appeal to a wider market.

When you have a shooter outselling a high-****racing sim 10 to 1, that is bad news.

GTA appeals to pratically everyone which is why it sells so much, I don't see your point here.

Personally I hate Gears.

Never played Halo in my life, I really don't care for it. (I just have Master Chief in my avatar because I like the picture)

I got a 360 for other games such as Mass Effect and Lost Odyssey.

I would say these games outsold everything else because the gameplay is much harder and doesn't appeal to casuals.

My brother hated Forza but loves Gran Turismo because he says Forza is too fake, he doesn't like Ninja Gaiden because its harder than God of War. With NG2 having a more casual friendly difficulty and MS publishing, I bet it'll sell alot because it won't be so difficult.

But I always wondered this too. KOTOR was supposed to be the best RPG last gen but I never heard about it and didn't know about alot of Xbox games until I came on Gamespot because not many peopleoutside of SWactually talked about them.

because the userbase is going to go up? darh..

What does Halo3 selling 10 million copies have to do with Forza2 selling an amazing 1 million copies in around 3 months..

Want to guess how many games on the PS3 have sold a Million copies? 2..

Want to guess how many Wii games have sold a million copies? 7

The Xbox has 23 games that have already sold a million copies.. Mass Effect will sell close to or even surpass Oblivion.. BioShock is on it's way to 1 million+.. PGR4 is going to sell 1 million +..

of course I guess you think every game should sell 10 million games right?

stop being a stupid fanboy..Your logic is so stupid..

Your logic is basically saying..

The PS2 version of GTA games sold a combined 40 million copies and 14 million a peice.. so why can't every good PS2 game sell that much?

Koalakommander

Would you stop turning this into a PS3 bash? I am strictly talking about the 360. The PS3 is an awful state, I don't know why people are buying it now. Every month's NPD suprises me because the PS3 sales should be 0.

Forza 2 seems to have leveled off if you ask me. If Forza came out like 2 years ago and is still at 1 million, it is basically finished.

The big selling games on the PS2 had a much smaller ration which means appeal to a wider market.

When you have a shooter outselling a high-****racing sim 10 to 1, that is bad news.

GTA appeals to pratically everyone which is why it sells so much, I don't see your point here.

That's not what he's saying. He isn't trying to turn it into a ps3 bash. He is saying that not every game sells the same amount.

This is not a bash, just a very good question...

If you haven't noticed, the Xbox and Xbox360 are not shooter consoles like some people speculate. Infact they hold some of the greatest games in other genres. Ninja Gaiden, Forza, DOA, Splinter Cell, Fable, and KOTOR. Such great variety, yet, Halo outsells each one of those games 10:1.

Now they are obviously a lot more car racing sim fans than a wimpy one mil. Gran Turismo games sold 22+ million copies on the PS2, and Forza is arguably the better game. Yet sales show that despite this, Xbox owners just gobbled up their Halo. More than 1/3 Xbox owners have a copy of Halo.

So now here we are in next gen. And great games in other genres continue to be released for the 360. This time the userbase is only around 10 million opposed to the Xbox's 25 mil, and still -- other great games pale in comparison to the sales of games like GeOW.

The only thing that suprised me was the sales of Elder Scrolls (3 million).

People on gaming forums such as these who own 360s probably own a variet of genres, beacuse they probably love video games in general to be on a gaming forum. But it seems like your brethren in the real world don't think like you do - and tend to only buy games like Madden, GTA, GeOW, and Halo.

So lemmings, how can you say so confidently that games like Ninja Gaiden 2 and Mass Effect will doom the PS3 in 2008, when it can be clearly seen from MS platform history that the games simply don't appeal to Xbox owners. There is nothing wrong with the games, they are amazing -- but the consumers of MS consoles are pretty weird if you ask me.

Why do 360 owners overlook other great genres? Since no one here is really a "casual" 360 owner, I want to hear everyone's theories on this.

Koalakommander

FACTS:

This IS a bash.

You ARE a fanboy.

TC, check my signature--the 360 runs the gamut on all types of games. But yes, I agree with you that with the rise of the "casual gamer", many 360s are sold to people who only want to play Madden '08 or Halo.

But it's not just the 360 that is getting sold these days to "casual" gamers. A co-worker of mine owns a PS3 and all he plays is Tiger Woods golf...*sigh* But, I guess there's nothing wrong with that. I bought a regular Xbox one time just to play Rallisport Challenge, then after I got bored with it I sold it.

Another co-worker of mine bought a PS2 for his daughter to play only ONE game that has become popular among even "cool" kids that rarely play games: Guitar Hero.

Go figure...

[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

This is not a bash, just a very good question...

If you haven't noticed, the Xbox and Xbox360 are not shooter consoles like some people speculate. Infact they hold some of the greatest games in other genres. Ninja Gaiden, Forza, DOA, Splinter Cell, Fable, and KOTOR. Such great variety, yet, Halo outsells each one of those games 10:1.

Now they are obviously a lot more car racing sim fans than a wimpy one mil. Gran Turismo games sold 22+ million copies on the PS2, and Forza is arguably the better game. Yet sales show that despite this, Xbox owners just gobbled up their Halo. More than 1/3 Xbox owners have a copy of Halo.

So now here we are in next gen. And great games in other genres continue to be released for the 360. This time the userbase is only around 10 million opposed to the Xbox's 25 mil, and still -- other great games pale in comparison to the sales of games like GeOW.

The only thing that suprised me was the sales of Elder Scrolls (3 million).

People on gaming forums such as these who own 360s probably own a variet of genres, beacuse they probably love video games in general to be on a gaming forum. But it seems like your brethren in the real world don't think like you do - and tend to only buy games like Madden, GTA, GeOW, and Halo.

So lemmings, how can you say so confidently that games like Ninja Gaiden 2 and Mass Effect will doom the PS3 in 2008, when it can be clearly seen from MS platform history that the games simply don't appeal to Xbox owners. There is nothing wrong with the games, they are amazing -- but the consumers of MS consoles are pretty weird if you ask me.

Why do 360 owners overlook other great genres? Since no one here is really a "casual" 360 owner, I want to hear everyone's theories on this.

mijkil

FACTS:

This IS a bash.

You ARE a fanboy.

Gotta say, I don't get "bash" from this topic (at least the original one)

[QUOTE="mijkil"][QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

This is not a bash, just a very good question...

If you haven't noticed, the Xbox and Xbox360 are not shooter consoles like some people speculate. Infact they hold some of the greatest games in other genres. Ninja Gaiden, Forza, DOA, Splinter Cell, Fable, and KOTOR. Such great variety, yet, Halo outsells each one of those games 10:1.

Now they are obviously a lot more car racing sim fans than a wimpy one mil. Gran Turismo games sold 22+ million copies on the PS2, and Forza is arguably the better game. Yet sales show that despite this, Xbox owners just gobbled up their Halo. More than 1/3 Xbox owners have a copy of Halo.

So now here we are in next gen. And great games in other genres continue to be released for the 360. This time the userbase is only around 10 million opposed to the Xbox's 25 mil, and still -- other great games pale in comparison to the sales of games like GeOW.

The only thing that suprised me was the sales of Elder Scrolls (3 million).

People on gaming forums such as these who own 360s probably own a variet of genres, beacuse they probably love video games in general to be on a gaming forum. But it seems like your brethren in the real world don't think like you do - and tend to only buy games like Madden, GTA, GeOW, and Halo.

So lemmings, how can you say so confidently that games like Ninja Gaiden 2 and Mass Effect will doom the PS3 in 2008, when it can be clearly seen from MS platform history that the games simply don't appeal to Xbox owners. There is nothing wrong with the games, they are amazing -- but the consumers of MS consoles are pretty weird if you ask me.

Why do 360 owners overlook other great genres? Since no one here is really a "casual" 360 owner, I want to hear everyone's theories on this.

Dragonblade01

FACTS:

This IS a bash.

You ARE a fanboy.

Gotta say, I don't get "bash" from this topic (at least the original one)

Its clearly a a bash, but one that tries to be reasonably subtle.

The subtext is clear: 360 is somehow less hardcore or less worthy than the mighty playstation brand, only he cant back it up with reference to his beloved ps3, and instead compares a fledgling console with a 10 mill userbase to a console with 150 mill sold.

Dead Rising, one of the most hardcore games of all time sold over a million on 360. Thats impresive, end of story.

Ive never seen anything other than ps3 fanboyism from this child

[QUOTE="Dragonblade01"][QUOTE="mijkil"][QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

This is not a bash, just a very good question...

If you haven't noticed, the Xbox and Xbox360 are not shooter consoles like some people speculate. Infact they hold some of the greatest games in other genres. Ninja Gaiden, Forza, DOA, Splinter Cell, Fable, and KOTOR. Such great variety, yet, Halo outsells each one of those games 10:1.

Now they are obviously a lot more car racing sim fans than a wimpy one mil. Gran Turismo games sold 22+ million copies on the PS2, and Forza is arguably the better game. Yet sales show that despite this, Xbox owners just gobbled up their Halo. More than 1/3 Xbox owners have a copy of Halo.

So now here we are in next gen. And great games in other genres continue to be released for the 360. This time the userbase is only around 10 million opposed to the Xbox's 25 mil, and still -- other great games pale in comparison to the sales of games like GeOW.

The only thing that suprised me was the sales of Elder Scrolls (3 million).

People on gaming forums such as these who own 360s probably own a variet of genres, beacuse they probably love video games in general to be on a gaming forum. But it seems like your brethren in the real world don't think like you do - and tend to only buy games like Madden, GTA, GeOW, and Halo.

So lemmings, how can you say so confidently that games like Ninja Gaiden 2 and Mass Effect will doom the PS3 in 2008, when it can be clearly seen from MS platform history that the games simply don't appeal to Xbox owners. There is nothing wrong with the games, they are amazing -- but the consumers of MS consoles are pretty weird if you ask me.

Why do 360 owners overlook other great genres? Since no one here is really a "casual" 360 owner, I want to hear everyone's theories on this.

mijkil

FACTS:

This IS a bash.

You ARE a fanboy.

Gotta say, I don't get "bash" from this topic (at least the original one)

Its clearly a a bash, but one that tries to be reasonably subtle.

The subtext is clear: 360 is somehow less hardcore or less worthy than the mighty playstation brand, only he cant back it up with reference to his beloved ps3, and instead compares a fledgling console with a 10 mill userbase to a console with 150 mill sold.

Dead Rising, one of the most hardcore games of all time sold over a million on 360. Thats impresive, end of story.

Ive never seen anything other than ps3 fanboyism from this child

Insecure much?

see it as what you want, you don't matter.