Why do you guys hate casual gaming so much?

Ok besides the fact that it put your preferred gaming company in a different place as far as the console war goes why do you hate it? I for one find it fun and not as taxing as hardcore games they're kinda whimsical really. Dont get me wrong i still like playing hardcore games but i just dont hate the casual games. Also i like how they dont take up as much of my time as hardcore games do (such as MGS4 lord know i loved it but about twenty hours of my life were spent)

I dont hate casual gameing I welcome it.

Its the hypocrit cow's and lemmins that hate on casual gameing.

Because the games are usually poorly made and derivative. Developers put minimal effort and founding into a small project, and then sell it to mom's who don't know any better for outrageous prices. I shouldn't be paying $30+ for tech demos.jack_russel

Im not talking about all the crap that is made im talking about the good ones like wii fit, wii sports, brain age, and Animal Crossing

IMO there is no such thing as "casual" gaming and "hardcore" gaming. Games are either fun, or they aren't. People normally try to classify "hardcore" games as games that are games that take forever to figure out, IMO they are mostly games that aren't fun.Monty_The_Great

no offense but as long as developers classify them differently so am I.

[QUOTE="jack_russel"]Because the games are usually poorly made and derivative. Developers put minimal effort and founding into a small project, and then sell it to mom's who don't know any better for outrageous prices. I shouldn't be paying $30+ for tech demos.Serraph105

Im not talking about all the crap that is made im talking about the good ones like wii fit, wii sports, brain age, and Animal Crossing

Nobody cares about casual gaming as long as it does not affect hardcore gaming in a negative way. Until Crytek releases "Crysis beach party" on the Wii, I have no problems with casual gaming. I myself enjoy casual gaming as well.

EDIT: Fixed gramma error.

[QUOTE="jack_russel"]Because the games are usually poorly made and derivative. Developers put minimal effort and founding into a small project, and then sell it to mom's who don't know any better for outrageous prices. I shouldn't be paying $30+ for tech demos.Serraph105

Im not talking about all the crap that is made im talking about the good ones like wii fit, wii sports, brain age, and Animal Crossing

I do not mind the so-called "casual" gaming as it brings in demographics that are mostly disinterested in video games. A diversity of gaming demographics is good as I am sick and tired of the stereotype that gaming is a young male "thing" which prevents it from gaining respectibility and mainstream acceptance.

I'm more of a casual than a hardcore gamer and I don't mind games like Brain Training or whatever.

Do you guys consider Worms to be casual?

I'm more of a casual than a hardcore gamer and I don't mind games like Brain Training or whatever.

Do you guys consider Worms to be casual?

the-very-best

I'm more of a casual than a hardcore gamer and I don't mind games like Brain Training or whatever.

Do you guys consider Worms to be casual?

the-very-best

No, worms is ****ing awesome.

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I'm more of a casual than a hardcore gamer and I don't mind games like Brain Training or whatever.

Do you guys consider Worms to be casual?

Relys

No, worms is ****ing awesome.

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I'm more of a casual than a hardcore gamer and I don't mind games like Brain Training or whatever.

Do you guys consider Worms to be casual?

Vfanek

No, worms is ****ing awesome.

The older ones had more weapons....

[QUOTE="Relys"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]

I'm more of a casual than a hardcore gamer and I don't mind games like Brain Training or whatever.

Do you guys consider Worms to be casual?

Vfanek

No, worms is ****ing awesome.

Maybe so, but I love it.

I can literally spend hours upon hours playing it... so addictive.

Because the people who make real games dont get the credit they deserve. Like forza 2 is better than need for speed but which will sell better.ndrewn

Simple. It makes them feel "hardcore". Not once last gen did I ever see people argue and differentiate between "casual" and "hardcore" gaming so much. Casual gaming used to be solitaire, and flash games that business men play at work. Stuff like, Jewel Quest ect. But now, apparently Mario and Zelda are icons of casual games. Stupid fanboys. dr-venkman

Last gen you didn't have 85% of Software on one console be Showelvare and low-budget cash-ins such as Dogz, Catz, Hannah Montana, etc. (The PS2 did have a lot of crap but nowhere near the Wii)

My parents were killed by a mob of casual gamers who weren't wearing their Wiimote wrist straps.

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People dislike casual gamers for the same reason anyone passionate about anything dislikes a casual consumer - they're a cheap date. If the world were full of food critics, crappy restaurants wouldn't exist - and in ultra competitive areas full of foodies (parts of New York and Vegas) we see that happen.

The casual audience provides an outlet that will consume what's advertised and does not seek / becomes frustrated with niche titles. It's hard to blame niche / core gamers for their frustration - small studios producing games like Psychonauts, Okami, and Disgaea struggle to survive or go out of business, while games like Kane & Lynch (genuinely mediocre) enjoy higher sales. It's not really fair that talent & creative go so unrewarded at times, and the uneducated consumer is at least partially to blame.

My parents were killed by a mob of casual gamers who weren't wearing their Wiimote wrist straps.

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People dislike casual gamers for the same reason anyone passionate about anything dislikes a casual consumer - they're a cheap date. If the world were full of food critics, crappy restaurants wouldn't exist - and in ultra competitive areas full of foodies (parts of New York and Vegas) we see that happen.

The casual audience provides an outlet that will consume what's advertised and does not seek / becomes frustrated with niche titles. It's hard to blame niche / core gamers for their frustration - small studios producing games like Psychonauts, Okami, and Disgaea struggle to survive or go out of business, while games like Kane & Lynch (genuinely mediocre) enjoy higher sales. It's not really fair that talent & creative go so unrewarded at times, and the uneducated consumer is at least partially to blame.

subrosian

This guy speaks the truth.

Because the people who make real games dont get the credit they deserve. Like forza 2 is better than need for speed but which will sell better.ndrewn

I used to be a more casual gamer and I bought NFS games, but now when I read revoews you realise that they are all the same, always will be, yet people will always buy them.

Would people consider games like COD4, R&C and MGS as casual though? The way i see it casual and hardcore gamers play those games.

Look at Lucasarts they were creating some of the best point n click adventures... then stop doing them..... So I releaved when Zack and Wiki was released...

Most people who own consoles will buy shooters/sport games over obscure titles lik Okami, Zack and Wiki, e.t.c

I don't hate Casual gaming at all... but as long as games like Zack and Wiki and Okami are still produced I don't care.

[QUOTE="dr-venkman"]Simple. It makes them feel "hardcore". Not once last gen did I ever see people argue and differentiate between "casual" and "hardcore" gaming so much. Casual gaming used to be solitaire, and flash games that business men play at work. Stuff like, Jewel Quest ect. But now, apparently Mario and Zelda are icons of casual games. Stupid fanboys. Adonymous

Last gen you didn't have 85% of Software on one console be Showelvare and low-budget cash-ins such as Dogz, Catz, Hannah Montana, etc. (The PS2 did have a lot of crap but nowhere near the Wii)

Because they shouldn't be priced the same as normal games. You spend 10 hours on even a standard shooter's first playthrough, and about 5 at most on a casual game like Hexic HD (unless you're addicted, poor fellow if you are that game is like crack).

They ruin what we call a hobby by over-rationalizing games for (forgive me yahtzee) the less heavy-headed, brain un-encumbered, ludite core populus that wade into gaming like it were their b£%*^ for the evening and a mere pass time. Hardcore must stay fundamental for now if only to make sure expensive-to-make games like gearskeep on being made!

I just dont find most casual games fun. I guess by "casual" I mean the extreme casual games like Wii Play, mini games, Singstar, etc, etc. I like an immersive, deep experince in video games. I dont think casual games will ever offer that to me.

But the only reason I would ever go to the extreme of saying I hate casual gaming is if MS and Sony drop their original fanbase for casuals... which I think could happen.

I dont mind 'casual' games being released, everyone has his/her tastes in gaming.... Personally I dont like such games and simply dont buy them.. its not like I am forced to buy games I dont like...

There are casual games because people like them and there are hardcore games because people like them... its always good having a choice..

I consider most gaming casual these days. From Metal Gear to Gears of War to Halo.

Wait, why is this bumped ??

For a second it thought Thrones was really un-banned.

LOL.

There are no such things as casual or hardcore games?

Sorry to ruin your aynchent filosifees, but yes there are.

You can't put Cooking Mama in the same league as GeOW or Halo.

It's sort of like saying there is no good and evil, they're all just choices, and therefore the same.

Because all sorta of skill and challenge are being taken out of games. It's being dumbed down, it's being turned into "No child left behind" ....screw you stupid, average, run of the mill idiots. I want a quality, challenging game. Hardcore gaming is what needs to stay around, not this "Hey, i go to the mall too? Oh you like Guitar Hero do you?! " Everything suddenly turned into some market fest. All everyone cares about is making bank. They make casual, easy games to appeal to all the dumbasses with a spare $60 in their pockets. Everyone knows this. LesFinalFantasy

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You've put all my thoughts on paper, when I couldn't.