I like how you guys just write off all of the intelligent points champ just made in favor of calling a douchebag. And I thought trolls were supposed to have more class. :lol:FireSpirit117I like how you come running to the defense of champ like if he's your husband. Champ is a troll, he's just a more subtle troll. And why should we as REAL gamers(i say "we" assuming you are one too)...why should we even care about the business side of it? Whats funny, and pathetic all at the same time, is how xbots act like corporate apologists when it comes to defending a mage shady corporation like M$, But yet when it comes to any other company, then its all about the consumer. That's why people hate 360 fanatics. Also, re-read my response to him, because I addressed his main point. And the other dude already did in the post before kindly telling him to F off lol Bottom line, if your husband wants to be treated in kind while debating, then he should show the same level of attention and kindness he expects
Why do you think Sony focuses on core games while Microsoft focuses on casual?
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[QUOTE="Zevante101"]step 1: get a computer? thats 20 steps in itself. lol I respect PC, but that was pretty funny :)BUYING A PS3 GAME:
1:Get on computer
2:Look at reviews and pick game
3:Drive to store to see if it's there
4:If it is, buy it and check out.
5: Drive home
6:Turn on PS3 and put it in
7:Download updates
8:Have fun, you are now playing a watered down, 700p with no AA, badly textured, destructible game with a horrible community (if it happened to be at the store)
That is at least 8 steps.
BUYING A PC GAME:
1:Get on computer
2:Look at reviews and pick game
3:Check sites to see what it is on(steam, gog, green man, amazon, etc.) and buy it
4:Wait for download to complete (you may play other games, watch a movie, render video, etc. while doing so)
5:Have fun, you are now playing a game however your customized system runs it. Likely at 1080p, max settings, antialiasing and anisitropic filtering, will never lose possesion since it is in your steam account(even if your HDD fails), with a great mature team-playing community.
Not only is PC 5 steps, but you don't even have to get out of your chair!
EDIT: Right, and the PS3 exclusive lineup is..... Uncharted, LBP, Killzone, GT, wait, what else is there?
PC lineup: Any RTS, flash games, more casual games, STALKER, Farcry, Soldier of Fortune, goes on and on. Just look at Steam
PinnacleGamingP
[QUOTE="Plagueless"]You're a f****** hypocrite. To everyone who buys his " I research games and find niche titles" garbage, take a look at what he wrote when it came to his attention that the 360 has 131 A+ games not on PS3. [QUOTE="arkephonic"]
And this would be a realistic scenario for you I take it? Lol....
I guess I'm just not nearly as much of a gamer as most of the people on this site. I'm not a completionist, in fact I've never gotten a Platinum trophy or all the Achievements in a 360 game. I don't bother playing through a ton of garbage to find a "hidden gem". I don't even play very many games as is, and when I do, I only settle for the greatest. There's just not enough time to sit around playing stuff that is anything less than the greatest. I honestly don't care about the hundreds of mediocre games, and I don't see why anyone would unless they have an unlimited amount of time to kill.
arkephonic
Yeah, I totally stand by my statement. I'm not a professional game reviewer. I'm not gonna waste all my valuable free time playing shovelware. It just so happens that many PS3 exclusives just happen to be the greatest, such as MGS4, Uncharted, Demon's Souls, LittleBigPlanet, God of War 3 etc. I didn't have to play through tons of garbage to find those "gems", game reviewers played through the garbage for me because that's their job.
Beautifully well put. Another great post from you. p.s And thats not even all of them. Heavy Rain and Infamous 2 were pretty awesome too. Although, IMO Uncharted 3/Uncharted 2/God of War 3/Metal Gear Solid 4 are ahead of the pact. But its amazing how many great exclusives PS3 users do get to play none the less. (PS3 exclusives are the gems of this generation)
oh look, another anti MS/360 thread by arkophonic,did not read,loldelta3074since when is the truth considered "anti"??
I like how you guys just write off all of the intelligent points champ just made in favor of calling a douchebag. And I thought trolls were supposed to have more class. :lol:FireSpirit117Pffst. As if.
[QUOTE="delta3074"]oh look, another anti MS/360 thread by arkophonic,did not read,lolPinnacleGamingPsince when is the truth considered "anti"?? Since when it pertains to the 360. The lems sole object of all their desires. When a person doesn't get on their knees and worships the 360 like they do, its called "anti" by them. Here's a friendly heads up:) Don't even bother arguing With Delta.
You, quite literally, are probably the only person on here whose posts I can't make it through every time. Not because I hate them, they are definitely informative, I just don't come here to read.
Therefore, I'm keeping my answer short. Microsoft realizes how much money there is to be made in the casual market, and while the popular opinion SW is that if a game is not core, it's a tribute to the gaming equivalent of Satan, the games are still simple, some are very addicting and fun, and people will by them as there are more casuals than core players. Sony, on the other hand, is trying to maintain an image of "the system for core players", not that I blame them, but it seems to be costing them money in the long run. They have to choose between recycling series that shouldn't have sequels, like God of War, or using multiplats. Nintendo is pretty much exempt from this argument as, like it or not, they'll continue to make money as long as their games continue to be good and their fanbase reamins strong, which won't be failing anytime soon.
That doesn't make sense. How can God of War be a "recycled" series when there's only been ONE next generation God of War 3 game on the PS3 released so far. Halo has had like 4 or 5 next generation releases on the 360. That's a recycled series if I've ever seen one. In terms of rehashes and milkage, Halo is right up there with Call of Duty and Assassins Creed. Also, the PS3 has more then enough awesosme exclusives. It doesn't have to rely soley on multi plats like the 360 and its fanboys do lolYou, quite literally, are probably the only person on here whose posts I can't make it through every time. Not because I hate them, they are definitely informative, I just don't come here to read.
Therefore, I'm keeping my answer short. Microsoft realizes how much money there is to be made in the casual market, and while the popular opinion SW is that if a game is not core, it's a tribute to the gaming equivalent of Satan, the games are still simple, some are very addicting and fun, and people will by them as there are more casuals than core players. Sony, on the other hand, is trying to maintain an image of "the system for core players", not that I blame them, but it seems to be costing them money in the long run. They have to choose between recycling series that shouldn't have sequels, like God of War, or using multiplats. Nintendo is pretty much exempt from this argument as, like it or not, they'll continue to make money as long as their games continue to be good and their fanbase reamins strong, which won't be failing anytime soon.
WiiCubeM1
[QUOTE="delta3074"]oh look, another anti MS/360 thread by arkophonic,did not read,lolPinnacleGamingPsince when is the truth considered "anti"??none of it was facts though, it was all his personal opinion. 'kinect is the worst thing that could happen to xbox 360 owners'- is an opinion and not a fact 'The same people that bought the 360 for Gears of War, Halo 3, you know, real games, are now defending this crap Kinect focus. That's the epitome of being a drone right there, allowing a company to dictate who you are, what you like. ' -or maybe they actually like kinect games and see them as an added extra to all the great games there are on the 360. ffirstly you should learn that opinions are not facts, secondly, only a fool would assume that everybody who likes kinect games and defends kinect are somehow brainwashed by a company to like it and they are all mindless automotons that let a company dictate there every like or dislike, personally i am not keen on kinect but i have plenty of awesome games to play on my 360 and i know a few people who have bought kinect and they genuinly find it fun,especially the guys with familys and it has nothing to do with brain washing. Real gamers are not so closed minded 'i don't like it so it must be rubbish' attitude does not belong in gaming at all, i don't like kinect but it's obvious many do and like the wii it is bringing people into gaming who otherwise would not which ultimately brings more money into the industry as a whole which benefits everyone. All of this is just my OPINION of course, i am not stupid enough to pass it off as facts,lol
[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"][QUOTE="delta3074"]oh look, another anti MS/360 thread by arkophonic,did not read,lolbrofistssince when is the truth considered "anti"?? Since when it pertained to the 360. The lems sole object of all their desires. When a person doesn't get on their knees and worships the 360 like they do, its called "anit" by themreplace lems with cos and 360 woith Ps3 and you have the attitude of PS3 fanboys on this board , can't believe you are still here drake, muppet
[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"][QUOTE="delta3074"]oh look, another anti MS/360 thread by arkophonic,did not read,loldelta3074since when is the truth considered "anti"??360>ps3 no
[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"][QUOTE="delta3074"]360>ps3delta3074noi didn't say that though, keep it up and i will report you for altering my posts out of context dude, actually read what i wrote, if you can read that is. :lol: he mad relax dude, 360 has mlb tv now no ones saying it doesnt
[QUOTE="WiiCubeM1"]That doesn't make sense. How can God of War be a "recycled" series when there's only been ONE next generation God of War 3 game on the PS3 released so far. Halo has had like 4 or 5 next generation releases on the 360. That's a recycled series if I've ever seen one. In terms of rehashes and milkage, Halo is right up there with Call of Duty and Assassins Creed. Also, the PS3 has more then enough awesosme exclusives. It doesn't have to rely soley on multi plats like the 360 and its fanboys do lolYou, quite literally, are probably the only person on here whose posts I can't make it through every time. Not because I hate them, they are definitely informative, I just don't come here to read.
Therefore, I'm keeping my answer short. Microsoft realizes how much money there is to be made in the casual market, and while the popular opinion SW is that if a game is not core, it's a tribute to the gaming equivalent of Satan, the games are still simple, some are very addicting and fun, and people will by them as there are more casuals than core players. Sony, on the other hand, is trying to maintain an image of "the system for core players", not that I blame them, but it seems to be costing them money in the long run. They have to choose between recycling series that shouldn't have sequels, like God of War, or using multiplats. Nintendo is pretty much exempt from this argument as, like it or not, they'll continue to make money as long as their games continue to be good and their fanbase reamins strong, which won't be failing anytime soon.
brofists
God of War, all the entries SO FAR are, far and above, amazing games if you can overlook repetitive combat occasionally (which I can). What I mean is, he already killed the Olympians AND caused the apocalypse. He destroyed the world with his rage and killed everyone relevant to his culture. In GoW 4, who the hell is he going to kill next? Norse gods? Egyptian Gods? Jesus? At some point, it's just going to get sad, you know that. So far GoW isn't milked, but it's getting dangerously close to that point.
Halo is still a great shooter series in many aspects. It has a compelling story that never ties up in the end, leaving room for a sequel. The gameplay is always challenging and satisfying, the multiplayer is always fun, the characters are always believable and you grow attached to them. I almost cried when Johnson died in 3. 4 games isn't milking a series, especially when they are ALL continuously good. Halo hasn't reached a point where it seems like it should end. What if the other Halo's had Flood on them, which they most likely did? What the hell was that Planet at the end of 3? etc. In my opinion, based on what milking is generally considered to be outside of SW, it's not milked.
[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"] noPinnacleGamingPi didn't say that though, keep it up and i will report you for altering my posts out of context dude, actually read what i wrote, if you can read that is. :lol: he mad relax dude, 360 has mlb tv now no ones saying it doesnt ....I think he knows?
I've posted this before, but I'll post it again. This is how I feel. "Of course Sony and Nintendo care about profit like all big companies do, But they also don't f*ck the consumer over like M$ does for any marginal profit gain. *cough* xbl *cough And the fact that M$ likes to stiffle competition, and forces developers to adhere to their whacky demands or else, is further alarming. I'd say M$ is the worst of the big 3, and is least for the consumer or for competition(out of the big three) The industry would've been far better off without M$, and their blind loyalist drones, What M$ brought: The charging of basic online play, introducing the cash money grab DLC craze, the milking of Halo,Gears,Forza repeatedly(really the only exclusives they have, which are still garbage exclusives) so i.e basically the attitude of quality isnt important and exclusives don't matter. And the fact M$ brought with it or either turned people into some of the most idiotic and blind fanboys ever,which have ruined the fun aspect of gaming with their fanaticism, and negativity. M$ brought more bad then good. They truly are a shady company of corporate d-bags whom are way out of touch with reality , whom delusional fanboys seem to gravitate towards." Also, I don't care about how "successful" M$ has been. I'm not a shareholder. I'm a gamer. I'm going to do what ever is best for me as a consumer, and buy what ever products interest me. I'm going to support who ever supports me the core gamer. And that happens to be Sony right now. So in a sense, I do.absolutely agree with jest of this threadbrofists
That was a nice, well thought out post that touches on some very solid points. The main point I want to elaborate on is, "the fact that M$ likes to stiffle competition, and forces developers to adhere to their whacky demands or else". I couldn't agree more, and this is something that really irks me.
I don't give a damn about RROD, lack of exclusives, none of those hold any weight compared to Microsoft's underhanded tactics. Rather than using good, solid product to compete with, they instead lower everything to their level. For example, if there is ever any additional content on a competing version of a multi-platform game, Microsoft will threaten to not license the game and to not support it. It reminds me of this friend I have. He has this ranch out on a big patch of property, and he used to get mad at his other friends for sleeping with their girlfriends there when he didn't have a girlfriend. He was basically mad that he wasn't getting any but others were, at his ranch, as silly as that sounds, as silly as Microsoft sounds.
Plus, Microsoft's way of competing with blu ray? They charge "onerous" licensing fees per additional DVD used in games in hopes of deterring developers from using multiple discs in their games, ultimately rendering blu ray useless.
Watch this video and pay attention at 2 minutes 50 seconds in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qppLjwqkiU
Does that look like a man that would lie about such a thing? A multi-platform developer who created the FPS genre? He has nothing to gain by lying about that, and he's more involved in that aspect of the industry than everyone here combined. To benefit gaming and to benefit the industry, Microsoft would find a solution and find a way to compete with blu ray fairly, allowing developers to maximize their potential and translate all of their ideas into their games. Instead, what we get are limitations and barriers placed on developers because Microsoft is uncomfortable and intimidated based on their inferior hardware. The lack of a mandatory harddrive makes the 360 not comparable to a PC, because 360 games must be able to be played while streaming directly off of the DVD, which plays a huge role in development and the finished product of a game.
[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"][QUOTE="delta3074"]i didn't say that though, keep it up and i will report you for altering my posts out of context dude, actually read what i wrote, if you can read that is.delta3074:lol: he mad relax dude, 360 has mlb tv now no ones saying it doesntof course i am, you altered my post to say something i never even stated once in my whole reply like an immature child who couldn't articulate a decent rebuttal to what i posted, all you are doing is showing yourself for what you really are, an unintelligent person with zero debating skills. :lol: *unhooks delta* *throws him back into the water* we'll meet again
MS just goes where the money is. Casual games are easy because they don't cost that much to make, don't have to be all that great, and they can charge just as much for them. As a company, I don't think they are really "passionate" about anything they produce. I think Sony is more into their products, as in they geek out over the crap as much as their fanboys do.
Naturally, all companies chase those dollars (or probably Euros now), but the best companies are the ones who are really passionate about their industry. That's why Apple is the leading manufacturer of consumer electronics.
That doesn't make sense. How can God of War be a "recycled" series when there's only been ONE next generation God of War 3 game on the PS3 released so far. Halo has had like 4 or 5 next generation releases on the 360. That's a recycled series if I've ever seen one. In terms of rehashes and milkage, Halo is right up there with Call of Duty and Assassins Creed. Also, the PS3 has more then enough awesosme exclusives. It doesn't have to rely soley on multi plats like the 360 and its fanboys do lol[QUOTE="brofists"][QUOTE="WiiCubeM1"]
You, quite literally, are probably the only person on here whose posts I can't make it through every time. Not because I hate them, they are definitely informative, I just don't come here to read.
Therefore, I'm keeping my answer short. Microsoft realizes how much money there is to be made in the casual market, and while the popular opinion SW is that if a game is not core, it's a tribute to the gaming equivalent of Satan, the games are still simple, some are very addicting and fun, and people will by them as there are more casuals than core players. Sony, on the other hand, is trying to maintain an image of "the system for core players", not that I blame them, but it seems to be costing them money in the long run. They have to choose between recycling series that shouldn't have sequels, like God of War, or using multiplats. Nintendo is pretty much exempt from this argument as, like it or not, they'll continue to make money as long as their games continue to be good and their fanbase reamins strong, which won't be failing anytime soon.
WiiCubeM1
God of War, all the entries SO FAR are, far and above, amazing games if you can overlook repetitive combat occasionally (which I can). What I mean is, he already killed the Olympians AND caused the apocalypse. He destroyed the world with his rage and killed everyone relevant to his culture. In GoW 4, who the hell is he going to kill next? Norse gods? Egyptian Gods? Jesus? At some point, it's just going to get sad, you know that.
Haha I actually loved the combat, Its simple, not too complex, yet very satisfying...very brutal.....and you can do a lot of things. The saying ..easy to learn, but hard to master, almost seems like it was made for God of War 3. Its refined and polished to the max. Plus the controls are so responsive, the animations so smooth, that the combat really was a joy to play. The moves are brutal too lol. I mean to me, God of War 3 was everything that great hack and slash combat should be. Fast, chaotic, smooth, fun, responsive ect How could any one not love that (in God of War 3 combat)? Anyway, I hear you my bro:) And i agree with you in that sense. Its interesting. I read a while ago, that David Jaffe wanted Kratos to take over Hades role after killing him, and then going after Norse mythology. It sounds like it could be something bad ass if implement on and executed on properly. Either way, I absolutely get your point. p.s lol I'm Christian, and my faith is strong. If they ever put Jesus into a God of War game, I would stop playing God of War all together.[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"] :lol: he mad relax dude, 360 has mlb tv now no ones saying it doesntPinnacleGamingPof course i am, you altered my post to say something i never even stated once in my whole reply like an immature child who couldn't articulate a decent rebuttal to what i posted, all you are doing is showing yourself for what you really are, an unintelligent person with zero debating skills. :lol: *unhooks delta* *throws him back into the water* we'll meet again Do I hear physical abuse? :shock:
[QUOTE="WiiCubeM1"][QUOTE="brofists"]That doesn't make sense. How can God of War be a "recycled" series when there's only been ONE next generation God of War 3 game on the PS3 released so far. Halo has had like 4 or 5 next generation releases on the 360. That's a recycled series if I've ever seen one. In terms of rehashes and milkage, Halo is right up there with Call of Duty and Assassins Creed. Also, the PS3 has more then enough awesosme exclusives. It doesn't have to rely soley on multi plats like the 360 and its fanboys do lolbrofists
God of War, all the entries SO FAR are, far and above, amazing games if you can overlook repetitive combat occasionally (which I can). What I mean is, he already killed the Olympians AND caused the apocalypse. He destroyed the world with his rage and killed everyone relevant to his culture. In GoW 4, who the hell is he going to kill next? Norse gods? Egyptian Gods? Jesus? At some point, it's just going to get sad, you know that.
Haha I actually loved the combat, Its simple, not too complex, yet very satisfying...very brutal.....and you can do a lot of things. The saying ..easy to learn, but hard to master, almost seems like it was made for God of War 3. Its refined and polished to the max. Plus the controls are so responsive, the animations so smooth, that the combat really was a joy to play. The moves are brutal too lol. I mean to me, God of War 3 was everything that great hack and slash combat should be. Fast, chaotic, smooth, fun, responsive ect How could any one not love that (in God of War 3 combat)? Anyway, I hear you my bro:) And i agree with you in that sense. Its interesting. I read a while ago, that David Jaffe wanted Kratos to take over Hades role after killing him, and then going after Norse mythology. It sounds like it could be something bad ass if implement on and executed on properly. Either way, I absolutely get your point. p.s lol I'm Christian, and my faith is strong. If they ever put Jesus into a God of War game, I would stop playing God of War all together.Yeah, GoW is definitely a Titan in the Hack n' Slash genre (god, I just realized that's a pun...). Great games, continuosly fun, very challenging yet simple to control, and one hell of a piece of eye candy.
PS. I'm a Christian too, I know how ya feel. It's just if killing Jesus in a video game was a sin, I'd be going to hell a thousand times over because of how much I've played Madness Interactive. :o
MS just goes where the money is. Casual games are easy because they don't cost that much to make, don't have to be all that great, and they can charge just as much for them. As a company, I don't think they are really "passionate" about anything they produce. I think Sony is more into their products, as in they geek out over the crap as much as their fanboys do.
Naturally, all companies chase those dollars (or probably Euros now), but the best companies are the ones who are really passionate about their industry. That's why Apple is the leading manufacturer of consumer electronics.
Pug-Nasty
I totally agree. Sony and Nintendo seem very passionate about their products, whereas Microsoft seems much less enthusiastic.
Speaking of Apple, holy crap, I was helping a guy move into a new home today, and he had a desktop Mac Pro. It's like the big tower desktop version of a MacBook Pro, but wayyyyy nicer. He said it ran him 6 grand, and it has 32 gigs of RAM. He's a video producer / editor.
It'd be hilarious if he had all that just to run Final Cut Pro X. Boy was that a f*ck up.Speaking of Apple, holy crap, I was helping a guy move into a new home today, and he had a desktop Mac Pro. It's like the big tower desktop version of a MacBook Pro, but wayyyyy nicer. He said it ran him 6 grand, and it has 32 gigs of RAM. He's a video producer / editor.
arkephonic
Haha I actually loved the combat, Its simple, not too complex, yet very satisfying...very brutal.....and you can do a lot of things. The saying ..easy to learn, but hard to master, almost seems like it was made for God of War 3. Its refined and polished to the max. Plus the controls are so responsive, the animations so smooth, that the combat really was a joy to play. The moves are brutal too lol. I mean to me, God of War 3 was everything that great hack and slash combat should be. Fast, chaotic, smooth, fun, responsive ect How could any one not love that (in God of War 3 combat)? Anyway, I hear you my bro:) And i agree with you in that sense. Its interesting. I read a while ago, that David Jaffe wanted Kratos to take over Hades role after killing him, and then going after Norse mythology. It sounds like it could be something bad ass if implement on and executed on properly. Either way, I absolutely get your point. p.s lol I'm Christian, eand my faith is strong. If they ever put Jesus into a God of War game, I would stop playing God of War all together.[QUOTE="brofists"][QUOTE="WiiCubeM1"]
God of War, all the entries SO FAR are, far and above, amazing games if you can overlook repetitive combat occasionally (which I can). What I mean is, he already killed the Olympians AND caused the apocalypse. He destroyed the world with his rage and killed everyone relevant to his culture. In GoW 4, who the hell is he going to kill next? Norse gods? Egyptian Gods? Jesus? At some point, it's just going to get sad, you know that.
WiiCubeM1
Yeah, GoW is definitely a Titan in the Hack n' Slash genre (god, I just realized that's a pun...). Great games, continuosly fun, very challenging yet simple to control, and one hell of a piece of eye candy.
PS. I'm a Christian too, I know how ya feel. It's just if killing Jesus in a video game was a sin, I'd be going to hell a thousand times over because of how much I've played Madness Interactive. :o
haha yeah:) True, the killer presentation, and stunning graphics(which are easily some of the best on consoles(along with Uncharted,Killzone,Heavy Rain ect) Are what pushes God of War far above all its peers, into another tier, and makes the combat that much more enjoyable to play and to see play out. p.s Sorry to go off topic here haha, I've always wondered why there aren't any games for Christians. I mean, I respect others free will to believe what they want. God gave us that free will. But the teachings of our lord and savior , whether you don't believe or not, really are beautiful, and would be helpful in life. It could be an inspiring game about love and morals ect instead of the games out now that are about killings ect. I mean if they could make a Christian game of the same high level upper echelon of pure quality of an Uncharted /Naughty Dog game, then that would be awesome. But then again, how would such a game play, what would they do? Anyway, its something that I've always wanted to play. lolYou know they tried that in real life. They killed off the pope within the first 60 years, and tried to kill off the rest of them in the next 300 years. The princes of Europe tried it with Protestantism. Hitler tried it in Nazi Germany. Soviet Russia tried it in its communist states. I suppose there are some things that can only ever happen in a video game :PI'd so buy a game where you take down all of Christianity. It would be delicious how much butt hurt would be flying around over it.
Pug-Nasty
How would you feel about a game taking down jews or muslims then? There's a double standard against Christians. Why is there like this perception where its ok to attack them, but not others?I'd so buy a game where you take down all of Christianity. It would be delicious how much butt hurt would be flying around over it.
Pug-Nasty
[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]How would you feel about a game taking down jews or muslims then? There's a double standard against Christians. There's like this insane perception where its ok to attack them, but not othersI'd so buy a game where you take down all of Christianity. It would be delicious how much butt hurt would be flying around over it.
brofists
I wouldn't take that comment too seriously. Odds are if this thread gets too carried away with it, this thread'll get locked.
[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]How would you feel about a game taking down jews or muslims then? There's a double standard against Christians. There's like this insane perception where its ok to attack them, but not othersI'd so buy a game where you take down all of Christianity. It would be delicious how much butt hurt would be flying around over it.
brofists
I wouldn't be interested. I was raised Catholic, so I guess I have a particular desire to see Christianity go away. I just think all fiction needs to be recognized as such, and only then can we move forward as a species.
How would you feel about a game taking down jews or muslims then? There's a double standard against Christians. There's like this insane perception where its ok to attack them, but not others[QUOTE="brofists"][QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]
I'd so buy a game where you take down all of Christianity. It would be delicious how much butt hurt would be flying around over it.
Pug-Nasty
I wouldn't be interested. I was raised Catholic, so I guess I have a particular desire to see Christianity go away. I just think all fiction needs to be recognized as such, and only then can we move forward as a species.
Seriously, for the sake of the thread, save it for OT. This is one of the more intelligent threads on SW right now, and I'd rather not see it get locked.
[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]How would you feel about a game taking down jews or muslims then? There's a double standard against Christians. There's like this insane perception where its ok to attack them, but not othersyou take down plenty of muslims in Call of duty and medal of honor, zen buddhists in black ops, theres just not been a historical reason to have a game attacking jewsI'd so buy a game where you take down all of Christianity. It would be delicious how much butt hurt would be flying around over it.
brofists
[QUOTE="brofists"]I've posted this before, but I'll post it again. This is how I feel. "Of course Sony and Nintendo care about profit like all big companies do, But they also don't f*ck the consumer over like M$ does for any marginal profit gain. *cough* xbl *cough And the fact that M$ likes to stiffle competition, and forces developers to adhere to their whacky demands or else, is further alarming. I'd say M$ is the worst of the big 3, and is least for the consumer or for competition(out of the big three) The industry would've been far better off without M$, and their blind loyalist drones, What M$ brought: The charging of basic online play, introducing the cash money grab DLC craze, the milking of Halo,Gears,Forza repeatedly(really the only exclusives they have, which are still garbage exclusives) so i.e basically the attitude of quality isnt important and exclusives don't matter. And the fact M$ brought with it or either turned people into some of the most idiotic and blind fanboys ever,which have ruined the fun aspect of gaming with their fanaticism, and negativity. M$ brought more bad then good. They truly are a shady company of corporate d-bags whom are way out of touch with reality , whom delusional fanboys seem to gravitate towards." Also, I don't care about how "successful" M$ has been. I'm not a shareholder. I'm a gamer. I'm going to do what ever is best for me as a consumer, and buy what ever products interest me. I'm going to support who ever supports me the core gamer. And that happens to be Sony right now. So in a sense, I do.absolutely agree with jest of this threadarkephonic
That was a nice, well thought out post that touches on some very solid points. The main point I want to elaborate on is, "the fact that M$ likes to stiffle competition, and forces developers to adhere to their whacky demands or else". I couldn't agree more, and this is something that really irks me.
I don't give a damn about RROD, lack of exclusives, none of those hold any weight compared to Microsoft's underhanded tactics. Rather than using good, solid product to compete with, they instead lower everything to their level. For example, if there is ever any additional content on a competing version of a multi-platform game, Microsoft will threaten to not license the game and to not support it. It reminds me of this friend I have. He has this ranch out on a big patch of property, and he used to get mad at his other friends for sleeping with their girlfriends there when he didn't have a girlfriend. He was basically mad that he wasn't getting any but others were, at his ranch, as silly as that sounds, as silly as Microsoft sounds.
Plus, Microsoft's way of competing with blu ray? They charge "onerous" licensing fees per additional DVD used in games in hopes of deterring developers from using multiple discs in their games, ultimately rendering blu ray useless.
Watch this video and pay attention at 2 minutes 50 seconds in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qppLjwqkiU
Does that look like a man that would lie about such a thing? A multi-platform developer who created the FPS genre? He has nothing to gain by lying about that, and he's more involved in that aspect of the industry than everyone here combined. To benefit gaming and to benefit the industry, Microsoft would find a solution and find a way to compete with blu ray fairly, allowing developers to maximize their potential and translate all of their ideas into their games. Instead, what we get are limitations and barriers placed on developers because Microsoft is uncomfortable and intimidated based on their inferior hardware. The lack of a mandatory harddrive makes the 360 not comparable to a PC, because 360 games must be able to be played while streaming directly off of the DVD, which plays a huge role in development and the finished product of a game.
I couldn't agree more with you brother:) I watched the vido too, and that really does sucks. We as consumers should say something, and let our voices be heard.... But the fact that there's actually blind and brainless 360 fanboys who are willing to defend, and protect them over the internet...well that means that nothing will probably ever change. Its....what can you say....other then its absurd lolHow would you feel about a game taking down jews or muslims then? There's a double standard against Christians. There's like this insane perception where its ok to attack them, but not others[QUOTE="brofists"][QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]
I'd so buy a game where you take down all of Christianity. It would be delicious how much butt hurt would be flying around over it.
Pug-Nasty
I wouldn't be interested. I was raised Catholic, so I guess I have a particular desire to see Christianity go away. I just think all fiction needs to be recognized as such, and only then can we move forward as a species.
I'd recommend going home to Rome, bro. Two reasons: 1) It's the One True Faith. There's nothing wrong with it. If you're having trouble, then it's the skewed perceptions brewing since the 1960s. 2) 145 empires have collapsed since 33 A.D, the beginning of the Catholic Church (The EU will be 146th, maybe America the 147th). It hasn't died out, even when all the odds have been stacked against it. I suppose the fabricated Jesus who pretended to be the Son of God meant it when he said his Church will never die![QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]
[QUOTE="brofists"] How would you feel about a game taking down jews or muslims then? There's a double standard against Christians. There's like this insane perception where its ok to attack them, but not othersWiiCubeM1
I wouldn't be interested. I was raised Catholic, so I guess I have a particular desire to see Christianity go away. I just think all fiction needs to be recognized as such, and only then can we move forward as a species.
Seriously, for the sake of the thread, save it for OT. This is one of the more intelligent threads on SW right now, and I'd rather not see it get locked.
Fair enough.
How would you feel about a game taking down jews or muslims then? There's a double standard against Christians. There's like this insane perception where its ok to attack them, but not others[QUOTE="brofists"][QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]
I'd so buy a game where you take down all of Christianity. It would be delicious how much butt hurt would be flying around over it.
Pug-Nasty
I wouldn't be interested. I was raised Catholic, so I guess I have a particular desire to see Christianity go away. I just think all fiction needs to be recognized as such, and only then can we move forward as a species.
I feel as if the Catholic church as taken the beautiful teachings of Jesus and corrupted them. The churches have basterdized Christianity. Religion is man made, and it is what causes all the problems we see today. Its the spiritual obstacle we face as a species. Jesus is love, and he's the only way we can be saved. If Jesus came today, he'd expose the churches of today. They've all become corrupted. Many people don't know this, but Romans took their peganism and injected it into Christianity, so that Romans could accept it. That's why there are these similarities between Jesus and other pegan things that people talk about to discredit Christianity. From the very beginning, it was corrupted, and even the holidays we celebrate today are pegan holidays Jesus said there would be false teachings in his name, and flase profits using his name to deceive. And that's what is happening.
Hasnt The Witcher 2 been considered the most hardcore game that ever came out to a cosole??PAL360
By whom?
How would you feel about a game taking down jews or muslims then? There's a double standard against Christians. There's like this insane perception where its ok to attack them, but not others[QUOTE="brofists"][QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]
I'd so buy a game where you take down all of Christianity. It would be delicious how much butt hurt would be flying around over it.
WiiCubeM1
I wouldn't take that comment too seriously. Odds are if this thread gets too carried away with it, this thread'll get locked.
You are right:) I'll stop. I don't want this thread to get locked[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"][QUOTE="brofists"] How would you feel about a game taking down jews or muslims then? There's a double standard against Christians. There's like this insane perception where its ok to attack them, but not othersbrofists
I wouldn't be interested. I was raised Catholic, so I guess I have a particular desire to see Christianity go away. I just think all fiction needs to be recognized as such, and only then can we move forward as a species.
I feel as if the Catholic church as taken the beautiful teachings of Jesus and corrupted them. The churches have basterdized Christianity. Religion is man made, and it is what causes all the problems wee see today. Its the spiritual obstacle we face as a species. Jesus is love, and he's the only way we can be saved. If Jesus came today, he'd expose the churches of today. They've all become corrupted. Many people don't know this, but Romans took their peganism and injected it into Christianity, so that Christians could accept it. That's why there are these similarities between Jesus and other pegan things that people talk about. From the very beginning, it was corrupted, and even the holidays we celebrate today are pegan holidays Jesus said there would be false teachings in his name, and flase profits using his name to deceive. And that's what is happening.i actaully agree with this, many Pagan festivals like easter and christmas where put into the bible as a way of appeasing pagans to bring them around to christianity,jesus was actually born between june and august, i believe in god but i don't go to church, i believe he is all around us and i just try to live my life in a moral and understanding way, compassion, consideration, empathy, respect and honesty is the way, to a degree the church has lost it's way, they have become to politicised and business like, the church of england even has shares in some weapons manufacturing business's.[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]
MS just goes where the money is. Casual games are easy because they don't cost that much to make, don't have to be all that great, and they can charge just as much for them. As a company, I don't think they are really "passionate" about anything they produce. I think Sony is more into their products, as in they geek out over the crap as much as their fanboys do.
Naturally, all companies chase those dollars (or probably Euros now), but the best companies are the ones who are really passionate about their industry. That's why Apple is the leading manufacturer of consumer electronics.
arkephonic
I totally agree. Sony and Nintendo seem very passionate about their products, whereas Microsoft seems much less enthusiastic.
Speaking of Apple, holy crap, I was helping a guy move into a new home today, and he had a desktop Mac Pro. It's like the big tower desktop version of a MacBook Pro, but wayyyyy nicer. He said it ran him 6 grand, and it has 32 gigs of RAM. He's a video producer / editor.
I admit Mac books are good lol. And Macs hardly get viruses too, from what I hear? Plua logic Pro is awesome if you happen to be a music producer[QUOTE="PAL360"]Hasnt The Witcher 2 been considered the most hardcore game that ever came out to a cosole??waltefmoney
By whom?
Well, according to this vid, at 0:34, its 'The most mature and complex game on consoles' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGw6VibYgso I remember reading similar stuff on previews though.Well, according to this vid, at 0:34, its 'The most mature and complex game on consoles' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGw6VibYgso I remember reading similar stuff on previews though.PAL360
Well it's not really surprising that the game's developer would say something like that. Though complex and hardcore are not the same thing.
[QUOTE="brofists"][QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]I wouldn't be interested. I was raised Catholic, so I guess I have a particular desire to see Christianity go away. I just think all fiction needs to be recognized as such, and only then can we move forward as a species.delta3074I feel as if the Catholic church as taken the beautiful teachings of Jesus and corrupted them. The churches have basterdized Christianity. Religion is man made, and it is what causes all the problems wee see today. Its the spiritual obstacle we face as a species. Jesus is love, and he's the only way we can be saved. If Jesus came today, he'd expose the churches of today. They've all become corrupted. Many people don't know this, but Romans took their peganism and injected it into Christianity, so that Christians could accept it. That's why there are these similarities between Jesus and other pegan things that people talk about. From the very beginning, it was corrupted, and even the holidays we celebrate today are pegan holidays Jesus said there would be false teachings in his name, and flase profits using his name to deceive. And that's what is happening.i actaully agree with this, many Pagan festivals like easter and christmas where put into the bible as a way of appeasing pagans to bring them around to christianity,jesus was actually born between june and august, i believe in god but i don't go to church, i believe he is all around us and i just try to live my life in a moral and understanding way, compassion, consideration, empathy, respect and honesty is the way, to a degree the church has lost it's way, they have become to politicised and business like, the church of england even has shares in some weapons manufacturing business's. Oh my.....I actually agree with you. What is happening? The world must be ending soon :( Just kidding lol. p.s We may have our disagreements, but you seem like a really good dude at heart...when you aren't talking about the 360;) (Same could probably be said about me) Anyway, Good post (I never thought I'd say that. Haha just kidding again:)) I feel the same way. And even if you choose not to believe, The true teachings of Jesus were beautiful, and can and do help anyone in life who may be struggling. At least there are a set of good morals to live by, and to better yourself by. What ever the case, Jesus was a real person who taught real and genuine things Now I believe he was the son of god, and our savior. Through his blood we were saved. Ever since I've had Jesus in my heart, I've never been happier in my life. And its like that sudden happiness just came over me. I felt overwhelmed with a love I could not describe. Its a shame how corrupted the churches , and everything else has become. There are so many people being deceived by the ill intent in the name of Jesus, its disheartening. I truly believe there IS a spiritual war taking place for our souls. And yeah, not too many people know about the true nature of holidays nor the intent. Its alarming. Every holiday we have been clebrating has deep pegan roots, and occult worship associated to it. Think about what easter eggs and a bunny have to do with the resurrection of Christ? Nothing. Its on us to keep Jesus in our heart, put god before everything in our lifes, and live good lifes..be good examples ect. Jesus said, that many would come in his name to deceive, and would pervert his teachings. We have to keep our faith strong and be smart
[QUOTE="PAL360"]Well, according to this vid, at 0:34, its 'The most mature and complex game on consoles' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGw6VibYgso I remember reading similar stuff on previews though.waltefmoney
Well it's not really surprising that the game's developer would say something like that.
hahaha true:)
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