[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Because M$ is all about low quality, ever since they exist.The_RedLionNo that's Sony. Just google DRE :lol:*googles DRE* :?:? the first two things that come up are about dr. dre and the department of real estate:?:?
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Because M$ is all about low quality, ever since they exist.The_RedLionNo that's Sony. Just google DRE :lol:*googles DRE* :?:? the first two things that come up are about dr. dre and the department of real estate:?:?
No that's Sony. Just google DRE :lol:*googles DRE* :?:? the first two things that come up are about dr. dre and the department of real estate:?:? try PS2 DRE[QUOTE="The_RedLion"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]Because M$ is all about low quality, ever since they exist.broken_ops
[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]5 cent rubber piece x 50 mil = $2.5 million Cutting corners is what these businesses do. ------------------------------------------- They save about $1 per dvd drive that comes without rubber protection. That yields more profits. Several consumer watchdogs have reported these kind of disc scratching WITHOUT THE DAMN CONSOLE MOVING. There are some experiments done Just search ''Kassa 360'' on youtube, Kassa is an dutch consumer watchdog that makes television programs about scams. Microsoft, cutting corners since 2006. This is what happens when a SOFTWARE company tries to make hardware. It can never be good. How about this... They dip into some of that extra money they made from charging $100 dollars for a WiFi adapter and buy some foam. They should get some guys in accounting to do some number crunching... I'm sure they can figure something out and still keep the company afloat. Very good point![QUOTE="elm_street_kid"] If this is so easily avoidable, then how is it even possible that it's not part of the design? HOW??!?!!!!!???? I don't get it. I want to drive up to MS right now and grab the designers and shake them and ask wtf is wrong with you.elm_street_kid
http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Hardware/Disc-Drive-scratched-my-disc/m-p/286308
Laptop scratching a disc.
When a system is revving it disc depending on its rpm it will put more and more force upon it in a gyroscopic affect thus making it scartched against stuff in the drive area.
While you are not following the sticker that says do not move the console, just go pour some water in your PS3 and ignore the "Don't expose the console to liquids." as stated in the user manual.
I bought a $60 game and it's not even a day old and now it doesn't work. I did not move my 360 from vertical to horizontal. It was vertical and I simply moved it to the left without tilting it at all.,.AT ALL. wtf. I mean I hardly moved the thing. It's a brand new slim model. Why is it the 360 has this problem so much more then other electronics? I saw that you can buy foam padding to stop this from happening... so why doesn't MS just have the foam as part of the design? I don't care about MS vs Sony vs Nintendo I'm just really pissed off right now. The game isn;t even a day old and now it's useless. Wasted money. There's nothing I hate more than wasted money... I hate that feeling so much. Does MS not have any standards when it comes to QA or what??? I tried the baking soda toothpaste fix on the disk as well as car wax... neither worked. I will see if I can find some shop locally that does disk repair. elm_street_kidThe disc is spinning at 50000 mph. It is unwise to move the console at all while that is happening. Especially if its vertical, considering gravity and all that. But yes, there should be rubber pads. Thought they had put those in there already.
http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Hardware/Disc-Drive-scratched-my-disc/m-p/286308
Laptop scratching a disc.
When a system is revving it disc depending on its rpm it will put more and more force upon it in a gyroscopic affect thus making it scartched against stuff in the drive area.WilliamRLBaker
Eh, did you even read your own link?
The link you posted is about a manufacturing defect with that drive. Drives aren't supposed to scratch your disc because you nudged your PC a tiny bit, or your console for that matter. If you kick it while it's reading, that's another story. But that is not what happenned to the TC.
This is MS being cheap. Quit being fanboys.
Again, I know I made a mistake. I'm just making the observation that the 360 seems to do this much MUCH easier then the other systems and am just wondering why that is... out of curiosity. It wouldn't hurt to have a safeguard there...why not? Things happen. I like it when a company wants to set high standards for themselves and their QA. It was pretty ridiculous how little it got moved and how badly the disk got damaged. Now I feel like I have this fragile thing that I have to practically tip toe around.While you are not following the sticker that says do not move the console, just go pour some water in your PS3 and ignore the "Don't expose the console to liquids." as stated in the user manual.
ImprovedMind
i have 3 different 360s... 2 are the old pro models... one of them i leave wide open because i install games on one 360, load em up, then pull the disc drive apart so i can take the disc out and use it to play the same disc on 2 different 360's simultaneously (this isnt considered piracy and against the rules is it? if so i lied and i dont really do that). And even when im hot swapping discs, i have never even seen a minor abrasion... i honestly dont have a clue how people are scratching discs unless they are shaking their console around.
and if you knocked your PC tower over while you were installing a game, i think your disc would suffer similar scratches.... drives like the PS3 are less prone to scratching, but more prone to jamming... but really when a disc is spinning is just plain poor behavior to move the drive around.... whether PC or ps3.
http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Hardware/Disc-Drive-scratched-my-disc/m-p/286308
Laptop scratching a disc.
When a system is revving it disc depending on its rpm it will put more and more force upon it in a gyroscopic affect thus making it scartched against stuff in the drive area.WilliamRLBaker
It's HP. http://purplejunction.com/2009/11/20/3-year-laptop-malfunction-rates-asus-beats-out-apple/
A CE laptop PC was *designed* to be SOHO mobile. If a CE laptop failed this test, then it failed it's purpose.
I have moved, rotated and flip over my Dell Studio XPS 1645 and Sony Vaio VGN-FW45 laptops while it played a DVD-Video and resulted no-scatched disk.
I LOL'd. Agreed. People don't want to take responsibility for what they do today.While you are not following the sticker that says do not move the console, just go pour some water in your PS3 and ignore the "Don't expose the console to liquids." as stated in the user manual.
ImprovedMind
Do not set up an older 360 vertically. I had a copy of Gears scratch the same way the OP did. The disk scratchingmanaged to avoid major controversy because everyone was all over RROD. There's a small foam bumper that they can/could put in the disk drive to keep disks from moving but they never did in the older models. It doesn't seem like scratching is much of an issue with Slims, however. I got one recently and it functions much more smoothly.
[QUOTE="ImprovedMind"]I LOL'd. Agreed. People don't want to take responsibility for what they do today. So POURING WATER on a PS3 and gently moving my 360 two inches without tilting it are getting compared to each other... alright. I have already pointed out 2 or 3 times on this thread that I take responsibility. I was just curious why this seems to happen so much easier on a 360... Out of curiosity not because I want to shift blame.While you are not following the sticker that says do not move the console, just go pour some water in your PS3 and ignore the "Don't expose the console to liquids." as stated in the user manual.
cainetao11
My laptop scratched disks. :(
The 360 disk drive spins a lot faster than the PS3 and Wii though, so that would be my guess.
I don't know why but the 360 is the only console I've ever had that scratches disks. It ate my copy of FIFA 11 and L4D2. Microsoft has some really s***** quality console. One of the many reasons I hate the 360.
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