Why does everybody assume the wii is kiddy?

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#1 HazeNPopes
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Is obviously for any age to enjoy, so why bash it? Cant have a little fun? Too serious of a gamer or something?
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#2 web966
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The people who call it kiddy are usaully little kids themselves.
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Non-realistic characters and color other than brown and grey confuse them and threaten their masculinity.
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#4 ViscaBarcaInter
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Because that's what the fans, on this site and others, as well as Nintendo's marketing have made clear? If the Wii wasn't for younger players and "Casuals" as they are called here, there would be more Gears of War or Metal Gear Solid type stuff. The "kiddy" image is appropriate for the market that Nintendo are going for with this console.

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#5 foxhound_fox
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Only kids are concerned about whether or not a system is kiddie.
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#6 Mystic_Legend
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Nintendo's first party software does not have any really violent games, and even in their third party they don't have a really vast library of M rated games.
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#7 Videodogg
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Who is everybody?  Everyone i know over 30 thinks it is a cool little system. I brought my Wii to a friends house last night. Him and his wife and my brother ( all well over 30 ) had a blast playing Wii sports all night long. Yeah, there are a lot of crappy liitle kids games on the Wii ( Chicken Run, Avatar, Happy Feet, etc) that are not even any good for little kids. The third parties are responsible for dumping that crap on the Wii. But anyone will a little common since knows the Wii is a good bit of entertainment.
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Nintendo's first party software does not have any really violent games, and even in their third party they don't have a really vast library of M rated games.Mystic_Legend


And this matters why?
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Nintendo's first party software does not have any really violent games, and even in their third party they don't have a really vast library of M rated games.Mystic_Legend
Please respond with relevance. I could say that about a bunch of devs.
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games based off diseny movies,games where u play as puppies,or a japanese anime nerd or its all colorfull and flamboyant...but im not hating,the wii is redeming itself with alot of good games coming out this year that arent like that.
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#11 Spartan070
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If the Wii wasn't for younger players and "Casuals" as they are called here, there would be more Gears of War or Metal Gear Solid type stuff.ViscaBarcaInter
to quote Vandal, "MISCONCEPTION!!" The reason a lot of the more gritty, atmospheric games as well as the more gory games are on the more powerful systems is because those types of games tend to rely more heavily on making the gore/mood of the game as realistic as possible. Thus those types of games usually benefit from the most powerful system they can get.
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#12 Downplays
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I wouldn't exactly call the Wii kiddy. It's presentation maybe. It's made to be a fun console with an unproven "gimmick" controller for a room of people. Online for the Wii will probably be like the DS. Just nothing full fledged like the PSN or XBL types online for gaming. But then again, the Wii to me was nothing but a Zelda machine.
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#13 MC2K8
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Is obviously for any age to enjoy, so why bash it? Cant have a little fun? Too serious of a gamer or something?HazeNPopes

 

Because of the games.  Just look at the majority of them.  It is truly t3h kidtendo. 

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[QUOTE="ViscaBarcaInter"] If the Wii wasn't for younger players and "Casuals" as they are called here, there would be more Gears of War or Metal Gear Solid type stuff.Spartan070
to quote Vandal, "MISCONCEPTION!!" The reason a lot of the more gritty, atmospheric games as well as the more gory games are on the more powerful systems is because those types of games tend to rely more heavily on making the gore/mood of the game as realistic as possible. Thus those types of games usually benefit from the most powerful system they can get.

Perhaps, but that seems more like a technical issue. The actual content of these games is very adult, and traditionally Nintendo hasn't done this kind of game, at least nowhere near the level that Sony and Microsoft are doing now. Apart from the respective power of the machines, the games for me is what largely determines this "kiddy" or "adult" thing. It's not a case of one being better than the other, simply that Nintendo prefer one market, and the other 2 prefer the other, and the games reflect that.
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[QUOTE="Mystic_Legend"]Nintendo's first party software does not have any really violent games, and even in their third party they don't have a really vast library of M rated games.Spartan070
Please respond with relevance. I could say that about a bunch of devs.

well in a way i think what he said is relevant.... I mean, Nintendo after all is the major selling dev on Nintendo consoles. People buy Nintendo consoles for the games Nintendo makes.  Sure you can say that about a bunch of devs for PS3 and 360...but how many of those devs/games do those consoles RELY on? Id say not many. 

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#17 gamevibe
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"Everybody" doesn't assume that the Wii is a kiddy console. It's either the majority or minority. But, it's still false to title the Wii kiddy. These people who want to find an excuse for the Wii to be an insignificant console are immature. Nothing more, nothing less.
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#18 shaggymcp
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If you look at much of the games, it would appear that it would appeal to younger children. Although I did just play with a 6 year old on Gears a few nights ago.
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1st off that is sad .....

Now how can you NOT expect the wii to be labeled kiddy ?  take one look at its game libary... no really go and look ill wait.

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Ok now that you had a look, plz explain how it can't be called kiddy by the general public ?  Stuff like Wario ware, cooking mama don't exactly scream "Teh Mature"  if anything it reminds me of my 3 1/2 year old nieice's Dora the exploere game's on her Tiger electroic's type game system ( don't know the exact name )

Im not hating on the Wii, but how do you expect people to judge the system when the average game looks like a dora the exploere episode ? Of course they are gonna call it kiddy, and even with games like Manhunt 2 coming to wii, its not gonna change peoples opinions of a Nintendo system being "Teh Kidday"  its a reputation that Nintendo earned and its prolly not gonna go anywhere for a long time.

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#19 Drathyl
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It's kiddy console because 360 is shooter console. The correct question is, why people label consoles that way. I personally do it because I feel necessary to get attention from people and it feels good. Ahh
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="Mystic_Legend"]Nintendo's first party software does not have any really violent games, and even in their third party they don't have a really vast library of M rated games.Uptown

Please respond with relevance. I could say that about a bunch of devs.

well in a way i think what he said is relevant.... I mean, Nintendo after all is the major selling dev on Nintendo consoles. People buy Nintendo consoles for the games Nintendo makes. Sure you can say that about a bunch of devs for PS3 and 360...but how many of those devs/games do those consoles RELY on? Id say not many.

 

How many M rated games has Sony Published? Nintendo has published at least 2... 2 last gen anyway.  

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#21 gamevibe
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[QUOTE="white_sox"]If you look at much of the games, it would appear that it would appeal to younger children. Although I did just play with a 6 year old on Gears a few nights ago.
shaggymcp

1st off that is sad .....

Now how can you NOT expect the wii to be labeled kiddy ?  take one look at its game libary... no really go and look ill wait.

fix's snack

eat's snack

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Ok now that you had a look, plz explain how it can't be called kiddy by the general public ?  Stuff like Wario ware, cooking mama don't exactly scream "Teh Mature"  if anything it reminds me of my 3 1/2 year old nieice's Dora the exploere game's on her Tiger electroic's type game system ( don't know the exact name )

Im not hating on the Wii, but how do you expect people to judge the system when the average game looks like a dora the exploere episode ? Of course they are gonna call it kiddy, and even with games like Manhunt 2 coming to wii, its not gonna change peoples opinions of a Nintendo system being "Teh Kidday"  its a reputation that Nintendo earned and its prolly not gonna go anywhere for a long time.

Yes. But the reputation that Wii holds from it's display of games shouldn't be an excuse to belittle the console as if it were junk. The Wii still packs an uncanny punch from the looks of the age groups playing from a 2 year old to an 80 year old because they don't judge it from the image when they play it.
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Nintendo's first party software does not have any really violent games, and even in their third party they don't have a really vast library of M rated games.Mystic_Legend
PS3 only has 4 M rated games and Wii gots 3. Though the Wii does have alot more games than PS3, with the vast majority being E rated. I don't really care about ratings, just thought I would find the truth. *shrugs*
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Nintendo's first party software does not have any really violent games, and even in their third party they don't have a really vast library of M rated games.Mystic_Legend

 

Eternal Darkness was published by Nintendo... not first party, but still they published it... and it's violent.  

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#24 phatkav
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How is Wii kiddy? I still see many kids playing GTA and still no one calls that game kiddy.

Now excuse me let me imagine what it would be like to play Wii Sports and Cooking Mama instead of crappy games like GEOW or GTA.  

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games based off diseny movies,games where u play as puppies,or a japanese anime nerd or its all colorfull and flamboyant...but im not hating,the wii is redeming itself with alot of good games coming out this year that arent like that.guitboxdude25

The PS2 has Kingdom Hearts, dogs life and I don't think I need to even meantion Japanese anime nerdy games seeing as it has the vast majority along with the fact it is extremely popular with kids yet it avoids the kiddy tag. 

I think you will find this all started when Sony did what Microsoft being as original as they are have repeated over 10 years later by basically saying they aren't a threat because they are for children.  Fanboys find these comments funny but in reality it shows how much both companys do fear Nintendo.

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Is obviously for any age to enjoy, so why bash it? Cant have a little fun? Too serious of a gamer or something?HazeNPopes
Not kiddy, but family friendly, which doesn't translate well for 'hardcore' gamers. I personally could care less what sort of stigma is attached to it.
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[QUOTE="white_sox"]If you look at much of the games, it would appear that it would appeal to younger children. Although I did just play with a 6 year old on Gears a few nights ago.
shaggymcp

1st off that is sad .....

Now how can you NOT expect the wii to be labeled kiddy ?  take one look at its game libary... no really go and look ill wait.

fix's snack

eat's snack

comes back

Ok now that you had a look, plz explain how it can't be called kiddy by the general public ?  Stuff like Wario ware, cooking mama don't exactly scream "Teh Mature"  if anything it reminds me of my 3 1/2 year old nieice's Dora the exploere game's on her Tiger electroic's type game system ( don't know the exact name )

Im not hating on the Wii, but how do you expect people to judge the system when the average game looks like a dora the exploere episode ? Of course they are gonna call it kiddy, and even with games like Manhunt 2 coming to wii, its not gonna change peoples opinions of a Nintendo system being "Teh Kidday"  its a reputation that Nintendo earned and its prolly not gonna go anywhere for a long time.

I don't think the general public uses terms like "kiddy" to describe the Wii or Nintendo, i find only Sony and MS fanboys are the ones to do that. If you are seriously not going to play a game becasue YOU think it looks "kiddy" then i feel sorry for you. Nintendo has proven time and time again that their games can be enjoyed by just about everyone. It must piss Sony and MS fanboys off when they see kids playing games like Halo and Gears of War...i find that so funny! NOOOO a kiddy is playing my mature game!?!?!?!? LOL
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Because they are insecure about their masculinity.
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#29 Roushrsh
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This is how it works, Wii=mainly G rated games ( that does not mean kiddy)

360= mainly M rated games ( doesnt mean mature since even 10 year olds play gears now a days)

PS3= Variety/mainly teens ( Not too kiddy not too mature but the PS3 does have its M games and E games just not as much)

Well thats my point of view of things, althogh my point of view ain't important to anyone but me.... 

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#30 linkhero1
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I'm guessing they are insecure about themselves. I wouldn't call any console kiddy just because it has kid friendly games.

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You know... Wii Sports is about as hardcore as it can get. Check Youtube for platinum medals for the trainings. Those are some sick movies. I mean I'm having a hard time beating my 18 at Tennis target practice and then I see someone getting 79 O_o
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The people who call it kiddy are usaully little kids themselves.web966
Truth ftw.
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here's my thesis on the subject :lol:

 

 

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gears360....LOL...i don't agree with you but that was funny stuff! how long did that take?! LOL
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#35 hikari33
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that was the best thesis ive ever seen lmao

and nintendo is kidddy no matter how u put it...for the love of god the only good rated m game on the GC was resident evil 4

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#36 IronMaidenLives
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that was the best thesis ive ever seen lmao

and nintendo is kidddy no matter how u put it...for the love of god the only good rated m game on the GC was resident evil 4

hikari33

I have heard the same thing over and over again and it becomes tired. Please research before you state such drivel.

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:lol: major ownage in that thesis.
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[QUOTE="guitboxdude25"]games based off diseny movies,games where u play as puppies,or a japanese anime nerd or its all colorfull and flamboyant...but im not hating,the wii is redeming itself with alot of good games coming out this year that arent like that.csliney

The PS2 has Kingdom Hearts, dogs life and I don't think I need to even meantion Japanese anime nerdy games seeing as it has the vast majority along with the fact it is extremely popular with kids yet it avoids the kiddy tag.

I think you will find this all started when Sony did what Microsoft being as original as they are have repeated over 10 years later by basically saying they aren't a threat because they are for children. Fanboys find these comments funny but in reality it shows how much both companys do fear Nintendo.

 

very true,but for every 1 "kiddy" game ps2 had there were like 15 for the gamecube.now im not syaing the wii is kiddy,because they are releasing some good looking action games soon to make up for the kiddy games allready on the wii.but the other nintendo products(gamecube,ds) you have to admit the games on there are kiddy.btw...im going to try to disregared your comment about microsoft 8) 

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Because they are insecure about their masculinity.fatzombiepigeon
This is all that needs to be said.
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#40 Private_Vegas
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Last night I played the "Wii Play" games. My favourite was the Cow Race. It was kiddy as hell, but I'll be damned if it wasn't also fun as hell. The Wii has some very kiddy aspects to it, but it delivers in the fun department, and thats all the matters.
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Only kids are afraid of looking like kids. Don't even worry about it.