Why does HD Resolution matter so much to SW?

[QUOTE="manicfoot"]

I find jaggies really annoying, so I'd rather have 720p with 2xAA than 1080p with no AA. It's not like I can really tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on my 26" Bravia anyway...

seanmcloughlin

I find that at 1080p you need less AA.

That's true, but aliasing is still quite noticeable to me at 1080p.

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="manicfoot"]

I find jaggies really annoying, so I'd rather have 720p with 2xAA than 1080p with no AA. It's not like I can really tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on my 26" Bravia anyway...

manicfoot

I find that at 1080p you need less AA.

That's true, but aliasing is still quite noticeable to me at 1080p.

Of course, I was just openly expressing a though :P

Thank God though that on PC I can change the AA method if I want for better frames. I am in love with SMAA now.

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Which would you rather play?

Zevante101

It's the same game, the gameplay doesn't change no matter how crisp or clean the graphics are. My opinion is gameplay matters a lot more then graphics. If graphics were everything, I wouldn't be able to replay some of the ps1 classics I'm playing right now.

[QUOTE="Zevante101"]

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Which would you rather play?

SageJMP

It's the same game, the gameplay doesn't change no matter how crisp or clean the graphics are. My opinion is gameplay matters a lot more then graphics. If graphics were everything, I wouldn't be able to replay some of the ps1 classics I'm playing right now.

I don't think anyone was putting graphics over gameplay (well, some do but doesn't matter). The question was why higher resolutions are important and I think some valid points were made.

Sure, a console doesn't need a razro-sharp picture to look decent (considering you're watching the TV screen from a distance) but that doesn't negate the crispness a true 1080p res offers (with good AA and AF levels, of course). It's also easier to see things and better for the eyes.

[QUOTE="Zevante101"]

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Which would you rather play?

SageJMP

It's the same game, the gameplay doesn't change no matter how crisp or clean the graphics are. My opinion is gameplay matters a lot more then graphics. If graphics were everything, I wouldn't be able to replay some of the ps1 classics I'm playing right now.

because PC gamers like making a big deal about things tha they know console gamers can't achieve. I might just have a bad eye but I don't real notice a diffenace. For Example Wipeout HD which is 1080p looks amazing, but so does GoW 3 which probably isn't even 720p. I would rather have good gameplay and all the stuff you listed.

inb4uall

[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

Because most of the posters here are shallow graphics whores who cant bare playing a shooter thats doesnt look pixel perfect.

Trinexxx

The desire for a "clean" picture has got nothing to do with "PC elitists" or "graphics whoring"...

Here is the difference between Wind Waker running on a GC/Wii in SD and in HD res on Dolphin emulator:

There's a reason why "HD remakes" exist...

Sorry, we cannot talk about emulators like Dolphin here. And it is not wise to post images from that emulator as well.mario-galaxys

Which is a shame because it makes a world of difference ;)

[QUOTE="mario-galaxys"]Sorry, we cannot talk about emulators like Dolphin here. And it is not wise to post images from that emulator as well.nameless12345

Which is a shame because it makes a world of difference ;)

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="mario-galaxys"]Sorry, we cannot talk about emulators like Dolphin here. And it is not wise to post images from that emulator as well.cainetao11

Which is a shame because it makes a world of difference ;)

Of course, but I don't think anyone can negate that a higher res simply makes it a lot better to look at ;)

And in a game with a great art-style that does come to expression.

Because console kids are just now experiencing resolutions that PC gamers have been playing at for years.

@nameless12345 I sent you a PM please reply:D

Take this sub HD pic:

And stretch it across my 28" monitor that goes up to 1200p...looks blurry as hell, lol.

Well, I'm playing Xenoblade right now and my jaw has dropped more times playing this game than any of the big budget HD games this gen... at least on consoles.

So there's definitely more to graphics than resolution.

Yes it looks much clearer. But if the game is fun to play, I dont mind the SD GC/Wii version. That is what boggles some of us. It isnt a deal breaker to some of us, because it's still playable. It was playable before HD, now it isnt? Thats like after seeing pro basketball or football, not being able to enjoy college or high school ball. Its still exciting.cainetao11

This is a discussion about graphics and why they make such a big difference, not about graphics vs gameplay. Yes I get your point about the game still being fun, but for a small cost of time/money for it to look a little better for the (hopefully long, considering it's supposedly a good game) time you are playing is worth it. When you are sucked into the experience and having a good time and then see pixels all over the place from a low resolution + no aa it kind of takes you out of it.

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

[QUOTE="inb4uall"] wow I legit LOL'd so you just game on your giant PC screen in an alley?

AdobeArtist

"Gaming is having a ridiculously large TV in a tiny 1 bedroom apartment" ;)

Who needs a bedroom? You walk through the door and the room you're in is all you get. ;)

Resolution matters because it affects texture quality, lighting quality, draw distance, etc. I think it was a little deceptive to market this generation of consoles as the "HD Era" when most games are sub-HD. Microsoft and Sony should have made 720p native a requirement across the board, and hopefully next generation all of the console manufactures make 1080p native required for games.

-Texture quality

-Draw distance

-Lighting and shadows

-Art style

-Animations

Trinexxx

What's the point of having those when the game looks low rez though?

Also wait until next gen when more stuff is 1080p native or 60 fps and console gamers will suddenly think it's important.seanmcloughlin

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]Also wait until next gen when more stuff is 1080p native or 60 fps and console gamers will suddenly think it's important.yellosnolvr

When you sit 5 feet from your HDTV I think resolution hardly maters. Other things like texture quality would make a bigger difference at that point.

Because this board is obsessed with graphics. jg4xchamp

Graphics have done a whole lot for gaming, so I don't see the problem.

Because if you dont have a decent resolution, many of those things look like garbage. Like playing a 360p/480p youtube video on an HD monitor, it's not very pretty

Because it's 2012 and 1080p should be the minimum for anything.

Klipsh

Because it's 2012, not 1999. :P

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Because this board is obsessed with graphics. Raymundo_Manuel

Graphics have done a whole lot for gaming, so I don't see the problem.

[QUOTE="Klipsh"]

Because it's 2012 and 1080p should be the minimum for anything.

silversix_

wa-wait a minute, if talking consoles how can that be a minimum,(we are talking 6-7years old consoles guys and when next gen hasnt started yet ? or is it because you guys have pc's and thats the only reason you can say this ? , but i think its plausible that next gen is 1080p or at least that could be sweet.

What's the point of having texture quality if you can't see it?