Why does MS believe in the word "console exclusive", but we dont here?

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#1 Idream2010
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I just watched the MS CES and the spokesperson mention console exclusives Mass Effect and Splinter Cell. I thought those games arent exclusive and cant be considered that? Im confused.

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#2 Microsoft1234
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cuz everyone on the boards has a gaming pc, what you haven't heard?
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#3 GamerX2311
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Because the real world has no care about pc gaming outside of WOW and flash games. System Wars likes to pretend they do. When a game is on 360 and pc, it's really looked upon as a 360 game that also has pc support, not a game playable on the 360 and pc. Pc gamers, and since everyone will back it since it has no true root, like to pretend that pc games aren't riddled with tons of crap.
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#4 Idream2010
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cuz everyone on the boards has a gaming pc, what you haven't heard? Microsoft1234

yeah guess so, still confused.

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#5 Ultra_Combo
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There is such thing as a console exclusive, is it multiplat YES. Is PC a console? NO.

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#6 Giancar
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we are in SYSTEM wars, not COMPANY wars.,. PC should not be excluded, still it is an advantage for the 360 have games like ME and L4D
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#7 Cerberus_Legion
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Microsoft's war is with Sony's PS3, NOT the PC.

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#8 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Microsoft isn't competing against the PC.
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#9 Ultra_Combo
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we are in SYSTEM wars, not COMPANY wars.,. PC should not be excluded, still it is an advantage for the 360 have games like ME and L4DGiancar

PC is not a console and no one is trying to exclude it.

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#10 RAGINGxPONY
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People don't believe in console exclusives? That's news to me.

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#11 GamerX2311
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we are in SYSTEM wars, not COMPANY wars.,. PC should not be excluded, still it is an advantage for the 360 have games like ME and L4DGiancar
Wrong, no. We should value a platform based on ALL of the games it has. Mass Effect 2 being a AAA on the 360 has just as much worth as say God of War on the Ps3, despite exclusivty, etc.---> and I mean game of equal value- not GOW = ME
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Because the real world has no care about pc gaming outside of WOW and flash games. System Wars likes to pretend they do. When a game is on 360 and pc, it's really looked upon as a 360 game that also has pc support, not a game playable on the 360 and pc. Pc gamers, and since everyone will back it since it has no true root, like to pretend that pc games aren't riddled with tons of crap. GamerX2311
^^speaks the truth, i honestly dont know any person that plays current gen games on the pc other than mmos and flash games.
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#13 Giancar
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[QUOTE="Giancar"]we are in SYSTEM wars, not COMPANY wars.,. PC should not be excluded, still it is an advantage for the 360 have games like ME and L4DUltra_Combo

PC is not a console and no one is trying to exclude it.

still the term console exclusive doesn't apply here, read the boards title...easy as that
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#14 Diviniuz
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This is System Wars not Console Wars

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#15 GamerX2311
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This is System Wars not Console Wars

Diviniuz
But the real world isn't either, it's called "I have X dollars, I will spend it on Y platform in order to be able to have all these games"
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Because the real world has no care about pc gaming outside of WOW and flash games. System Wars likes to pretend they do. When a game is on 360 and pc, it's really looked upon as a 360 game that also has pc support, not a game playable on the 360 and pc. Pc gamers, and since everyone will back it since it has no true root, like to pretend that pc games aren't riddled with tons of crap. GamerX2311
dude, the hermits are by far the largest faction here, they will rip you apart for that. on a sidenote, the forum's jackass finally got his account back after a glitched gamespot preventing him from logging in for 3 months.

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#17 Ultra_Combo
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[QUOTE="Ultra_Combo"]

[QUOTE="Giancar"]we are in SYSTEM wars, not COMPANY wars.,. PC should not be excluded, still it is an advantage for the 360 have games like ME and L4DGiancar

PC is not a console and no one is trying to exclude it.

still the term console exclusive doesn't apply here, read the boards title...easy as that

Yah read it it says system wars so, in the "system" wars you have handhelds, CONSOLES, and pc :roll:

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#18 Idream2010
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[QUOTE="GamerX2311"]Because the real world has no care about pc gaming outside of WOW and flash games. System Wars likes to pretend they do. When a game is on 360 and pc, it's really looked upon as a 360 game that also has pc support, not a game playable on the 360 and pc. Pc gamers, and since everyone will back it since it has no true root, like to pretend that pc games aren't riddled with tons of crap. 12345678ew

dude, the hermits are by far the largest faction here, they will rip you apart for that. on a sidenote, the forum's jackass finally got his account back after a glitched gamespot preventing him from logging in for 3 months.

who is the forums jackbutt?

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dude, the hermits are by far the largest faction here, they will rip you apart for that.

12345678ew

I wouldn't be so sure in saying hermits are the majority, but I can definitely tell you my fellow hermits are not the most vocal.

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#20 13C
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Why does Sony believe in PLAYSTATION exclusive but we don't here.

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#21 Ultra_Combo
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This is System Wars not Console Wars

Diviniuz

Doesn't matter I see console graphics king all the time, so if there is a console graphics king, then there are console exclusives simple as that.

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#22 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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This is System Wars not Console Wars

Diviniuz
Tell that to the fellas throwing around "Console Graphics King". :P
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#23 scarface_dm
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Before I started posting here I had no clue what pc games where, Im Serious :?

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#24 Ultra_Combo
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[QUOTE="Diviniuz"]

This is System Wars not Console Wars

Stevo_the_gamer

Tell that to the fellas throwing around "Console Graphics King". :P

Hah beat you too it :D

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#25 B1RDH0UZ3
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MS makes $ on 360 and also PC so having >exclusives< means they still realese it on pc since they can make some profit.

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#26 Giancar
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[QUOTE="Diviniuz"]

This is System Wars not Console Wars

Stevo_the_gamer

Tell that to the fellas throwing around "Console Graphics King". :P

it wasn't invented by cows anyways....

it's just now that they abuse it...

and graphics king doesn't play any role to the meta game neither

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#27 ActicEdge
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In reality the word does exist. However this is SW and not company wars thus its not an exclusive for the 360, just a benefit. But the difference between those who buy consoles and those who PC game is diverse enough that a game on PC and a console may have 2 seperate but similar buying bases. Like L4D for example.

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Because the real world has no care about pc gaming outside of WOW and flash games. System Wars likes to pretend they do. When a game is on 360 and pc, it's really looked upon as a 360 game that also has pc support, not a game playable on the 360 and pc. Pc gamers, and since everyone will back it since it has no true root, like to pretend that pc games aren't riddled with tons of crap. GamerX2311
This is the truth. SW also told me that PSN = XBL. That was a joke as well.
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In reality the word does exist. However this is SW and not company wars thus its not an exclusive for the 360, just a benefit. But the difference between those who buy consoles and those who PC game is diverse enough that a game on PC and a console may have 2 seperate but similar buying bases. Like L4D for example.

ActicEdge

Explain to me how a console exclusive means a specific company, the PS3 can have a console exclusive just as easily as the 360. Console exclusive does not denote any specific company. It means exclusive to ONE of the 3 consoles in "SYSTEM" wars.

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#30 uyiop0t
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Console exclusive means "only on 360 and not PS3 and Wii" or "only on Wii and not PS3 and 360" or "only on PS3 and not 360 and Wii." Console exclusives are also on PC. Exclusives are on one system and one system only, including PC. For example, Starcraft is an exclusive for PC. Halo ODST is an exclusive for 360. Killzone 2 is an exclusive for PS3. But Halo: Combat evolved is a console exclusive for XBOX 1, seeing as it's also on PC.
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#31 DonPerian
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The subject matter has shades of gray. It is possible for something to be console exclusive and multiplatform. It just depends on what perspective you look at it. It's true that when comparing consoles, certain games are exclusive to certain consoles. But when broadening the spectrum, that comparison becomes void. I don't know why System Wars doesn't recognize this fact, but I'm not going to try and fight it because quite frankly, I don't care.
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[QUOTE="GamerX2311"]Because the real world has no care about pc gaming outside of WOW and flash games. System Wars likes to pretend they do. When a game is on 360 and pc, it's really looked upon as a 360 game that also has pc support, not a game playable on the 360 and pc. Pc gamers, and since everyone will back it since it has no true root, like to pretend that pc games aren't riddled with tons of crap. Microsoft1234
^^speaks the truth, i honestly dont know any person that plays current gen games on the pc other than mmos and flash games.

If what you say is true why is Mass Effect and Splinter Cell coming to the PC, why does any game other than WoW or flash games come to the PC if no one cares about them?

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Console exclusive means "only on 360 and not PS3 and Wii" or "only on Wii and not PS3 and 360" or "only on PS3 and not 360 and Wii." Console exclusives are also on PC. Exclusives are on one system and one system only, including PC. For example, Starcraft is an exclusive for PC. Halo ODST is an exclusive for 360. Killzone 2 is an exclusive for PS3. But Halo: Combat evolved is a console exclusive for XBOX 1, seeing as it's also on PC.uyiop0t

Spoken like a person with some sense.

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[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"][QUOTE="GamerX2311"]Because the real world has no care about pc gaming outside of WOW and flash games. System Wars likes to pretend they do. When a game is on 360 and pc, it's really looked upon as a 360 game that also has pc support, not a game playable on the 360 and pc. Pc gamers, and since everyone will back it since it has no true root, like to pretend that pc games aren't riddled with tons of crap. Snagal123

^^speaks the truth, i honestly dont know any person that plays current gen games on the pc other than mmos and flash games.

If what you say is true why is Mass Effect and Splinter Cell coming to the PC, why does any game other than WoW or flash games come to the PC if no one cares about them?

cheap to develope for

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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

In reality the word does exist. However this is SW and not company wars thus its not an exclusive for the 360, just a benefit. But the difference between those who buy consoles and those who PC game is diverse enough that a game on PC and a console may have 2 seperate but similar buying bases. Like L4D for example.

Ultra_Combo

Explain to me how a console exclusive means a specific company, the PS3 can have a console exclusive just as easily as the 360. Console exclusive does not denote any specific company. It means exclusive to ONE of the 3 consoles in "SYSTEM" wars.

Uh, the question was referring to MS, not third parties so I am infact correct.

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I'm pretty sure they refer to them as M$ exclusives.

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[QUOTE="Ultra_Combo"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

In reality the word does exist. However this is SW and not company wars thus its not an exclusive for the 360, just a benefit. But the difference between those who buy consoles and those who PC game is diverse enough that a game on PC and a console may have 2 seperate but similar buying bases. Like L4D for example.

ActicEdge

Explain to me how a console exclusive means a specific company, the PS3 can have a console exclusive just as easily as the 360. Console exclusive does not denote any specific company. It means exclusive to ONE of the 3 consoles in "SYSTEM" wars.

Uh, the question was referring to MS, not third parties so I am infact correct.

Uh yah that didn't answer the question

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In all fairness, PC isn't even a system anymore. It's an institution. It's consoles trying to be like the PCs of yore, but PC is now in another league. And no, I'm not a hermit.

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Why does Sony believe in PLAYSTATION exclusive but we don't here.

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Because this game is only on playstation right? If the box said "only on playstation 3" that would be another story altogether.

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[QUOTE="Snagal123"]

If what you say is true why is Mass Effect and Splinter Cell coming to the PC, why does any game other than WoW or flash games come to the PC if no one cares about them?

scarface_dm

cheap to develope for

What does it matter how cheap it is? No one cares remeber, no ones going to buy it, so no matter how cheap it is there loosing money right? I mean no one cares about PC gaming at all, thats why Microsoft showed of a few PC gaming laptops...oh...right.

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[QUOTE="GamerX2311"]Because the real world has no care about pc gaming outside of WOW and flash games. System Wars likes to pretend they do. When a game is on 360 and pc, it's really looked upon as a 360 game that also has pc support, not a game playable on the 360 and pc. Pc gamers, and since everyone will back it since it has no true root, like to pretend that pc games aren't riddled with tons of crap. Microsoft1234
^^speaks the truth, i honestly dont know any person that plays current gen games on the pc other than mmos and flash games.

Wat? (Consider that Xfire is only used by a small, rather compeditive section of the PC gaming community.)
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#42 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Ultra_Combo"]

Explain to me how a console exclusive means a specific company, the PS3 can have a console exclusive just as easily as the 360. Console exclusive does not denote any specific company. It means exclusive to ONE of the 3 consoles in "SYSTEM" wars.

Ultra_Combo

Uh, the question was referring to MS, not third parties so I am infact correct.

Uh yah that didn't answer the question

Uh, yes it did. This isn't company wars thus we do not count MS games that appear on PC. Not to say that only MS does this but in this examle TC is asking why MS believs in it. Thus I was referring to how MS is a company who thus will use te term but here it must abide to the PC's seperate existance. If you can't understand that I;m done conversing.

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#43 Ultra_Combo
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[QUOTE="scarface_dm"]

[QUOTE="Snagal123"]

If what you say is true why is Mass Effect and Splinter Cell coming to the PC, why does any game other than WoW or flash games come to the PC if no one cares about them?

Snagal123

cheap to develope for

What does it matter how cheap it is? No one cares remeber, no ones going to buy it, so no matter how cheap it is there loosing money right? I mean no one cares about PC gaming at all, thats why Microsoft showed of a few PC gaming laptops...oh...right.

Yah to dismiss the PC is pretty silly.

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PC isn't a console nor does it compete with them. At least not in a broad sense.

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#45 Ultra_Combo
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[QUOTE="Ultra_Combo"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Uh, the question was referring to MS, not third parties so I am infact correct.

ActicEdge

Uh yah that didn't answer the question

Uh, yes it did. This isn't company wars thus we do not count MS games that appear on PC. Not to say that only MS does this but in this examle TC is asking why MS believs in it. Thus I was referring to how MS is a company who thus will use te term but here it must abide to the PC's seperate existance. If you can't understand that I;m done conversing.

Your done because you can't answer my question. No one said it was exclusive YOU said that. As I said Console exclusive does not denote any particular company. Therefore you can throw your "this isn't company wars" right out of the window. ANY console can have a console exclusive if it's not on another console. So how does that mean company wars?

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You can argue that mass effect isn't an exclusive but at the same time its in the 360s library. It adds to the quality of the game library

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#47 LegendofYaslint
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The Sony fanboys will continue to hide behind the PC b/c it helps side.

But don't tell me the microsoft fanboys wouldn't do the same thing if it was the PS3 that shared a couple console exclusives with the PC.

I'll just say this, I find it funny (and pathetic) how it seems to be mostly cows who claim to have a gaming PC rig yet when you look at their profiles all they do is talk about and/or review PS3 games, no PC games lol.

System Wars in general is a pathetic joke and while it's entertaining and a good place for gaming news sometimes, anyone who takes any of these childish and pathetic arguments seriously is in dire need of a new life.

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#48 Ultra_Combo
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You can argue that mass effect isn't an exclusive but at the same time its in the 360s library. It adds to the quality of the game library

Canindian_Boy

Who called it exclusive?

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#49 Ultra_Combo
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The Sony fanboys will continue to hide behind the PC b/c it helps side.

But don't tell me the microsoft fanboys wouldn't do the same thing if it was the PS3 that shared a couple console exclusives with the PC.

I'll just say this, I find it funny (and pathetic) how it seems to be mostly cows who claim to have a gaming PC rig yet when you look at their profiles all they do is talk about and/or review PS3 games, no PC games lol.

System Wars in general is a pathetic joke and while it's entertaining and a good place for gaming news sometimes, anyone who takes any of these childish and pathetic arguments seriously is in dire need of a new life.

LegendofYaslint

QFT and as a matter of fact the PS3 has a console exclusive coming out in the form of FF14

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#50 13C
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Not ever thread MUST INCLUDE pc. So there could be threads within system wars that take just about consoles. Just like there could be threads that only compare pc to 360