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[QUOTE="Korrigan777"][QUOTE="mubarakibnumar"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="mubarakibnumar"]

I think the reason we havent heard of any new game announcement for the ps3 from SE is because they are waiting for more people to get the ps3 before they make more games.

mubarakibnumar

or maybe because TGS isn't here yet? :|

There are rumors that SE is planning to announce a new PS3 game in a few days at the show.

SE hasnt announced a new exclusive game for the ps3 since FF13 VS.

Honestly if developers keep on investing their bread and butter on the ps3 they will go out of business.

you should work for Square-enix, obviously you know everything they're planning, and know each possible opportunity for them to offset their losses

:roll:

Look its simple logic. SE cant spend much more than they gain because they are not running a voluntary business. Believe it or not but the ps3 has the worst software attach ratio of all the three next gen consoles. People are not buying enought software for their ps3's-what do you think will happen if any developer invests on a userbase that has only one game that has sold over a million units?

do you think that countered my post?

:lol:

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[QUOTE="NeoStar9"][QUOTE="stika"][QUOTE="daqua_99"]

Square stays true to Sony because of the history.

Why would Square go to MS ... Square is a Japanese company and the 360 is selling like crap in the land of the rising sun.

Square won't go to Nintendo (or put their entire hopes on Nintendo) due to the history which they have (bad one might we add).

mubarakibnumar

i didnt know nintendo and square had a bad history


I think the bad history between Square and Nintendo comes from the supposed backstabing by Square to Nintendo during the time of the PlayStation 1 and Nintendo 64. i remember reading, and perhaps others might have come across the same thing, that when Square jumped ship to the PlayStation Nintendo didn't really put up much of a fight and that kinda insulted Square to some degree. Also that Sony had made a LOT of promises to Square if they could get others to develop on the PS1. Which leads to why a number of companies, mainly RPG ones I believe pulled their support from Nintendo. Then Square went on to publicly bad mouth Nintendo for a while.

I don't believe their bad relationship had to do with Nintendo still using carts as the could hold as much info as the cds at the time. Not all N64 games were the same size remember, they range from small to large. I think the above is also the reason why we didn't see a Square game on a Nintendo console for so long due to the bad blood that form due to Square's actions. I also seem to recall reading that due to that Square had a hard time getting games on the GBA and then the Nintendo DS. They had to make a Cube game in order to be allowed a DS kit. Which could be why FFCC on the Cube seem so below par. They might have been going through the motions since the real money was rereleasing all of their old Final Fantasy games on the Nintendo DS and GBA. I think before they were allowed to that Square actually made a public apology for their actions that caused the rift between the two companies. I do recall being pointed to an article that talked about that. It was said during an announcement of something else Square was announucing at the time.

How solid this all is I'm not sure. However it makes more sense to me that is what would have caused the rift between the two companies in the past and would explain why some companies decided to pull support the way they did. It just being that Nintendo still wanted to use carts just doesn't work for me. Could the cost of having to pay Nintendo for the carts been more then the losses they would have and most likely did get hit with due to the people pirating games on the PS1 due to them being on CDs? I don't think so.[/QUOT

[QUOTE="stika"][QUOTE="daqua_99"]

Square stays true to Sony because of the history.

Why would Square go to MS ... Square is a Japanese company and the 360 is selling like crap in the land of the rising sun.

Square won't go to Nintendo (or put their entire hopes on Nintendo) due to the history which they have (bad one might we add).

NeoStar9

i didnt know nintendo and square had a bad history


I think the bad history between Square and Nintendo comes from the supposed backstabing by Square to Nintendo during the time of the PlayStation 1 and Nintendo 64. i remember reading, and perhaps others might have come across the same thing, that when Square jumped ship to the PlayStation Nintendo didn't really put up much of a fight and that kinda insulted Square to some degree. Also that Sony had made a LOT of promises to Square if they could get others to develop on the PS1. Which leads to why a number of companies, mainly RPG ones I believe pulled their support from Nintendo. Then Square went on to publicly bad mouth Nintendo for a while.

I don't believe their bad relationship had to do with Nintendo still using carts as the could hold as much info as the cds at the time. Not all N64 games were the same size remember, they range from small to large. I think the above is also the reason why we didn't see a Square game on a Nintendo console for so long due to the bad blood that form due to Square's actions. I also seem to recall reading that due to that Square had a hard time getting games on the GBA and then the Nintendo DS. They had to make a Cube game in order to be allowed a DS kit. Which could be why FFCC on the Cube seem so below par. They might have been going through the motions since the real money was rereleasing all of their old Final Fantasy games on the Nintendo DS and GBA. I think before they were allowed to that Square actually made a public apology for their actions that caused the rift between the two companies. I do recall being pointed to an article that talked about that. It was said during an announcement of something else Square was announucing at the time.

How solid this all is I'm not sure. However it makes more sense to me that is what would have caused the rift between the two companies in the past and would explain why some companies decided to pull support the way they did. It just being that Nintendo still wanted to use carts just doesn't work for me. Could the cost of having to pay Nintendo for the carts been more then the losses they would have and most likely did get hit with due to the people pirating games on the PS1 due to them being on CDs? I don't think so.

All this is in the past. If SE wants to make money then their only alternative is to fully support the DS and Wii.

Explain why Square-enix havent yet cancelled FF13Versus for ps3 (seeing as they've spent less dev time on it) and make it a wii exclusive with 5 Ds spin offs?

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[QUOTE="mubarakibnumar"][QUOTE="NeoStar9"][QUOTE="stika"][QUOTE="daqua_99"]

Square stays true to Sony because of the history.

Why would Square go to MS ... Square is a Japanese company and the 360 is selling like crap in the land of the rising sun.

Square won't go to Nintendo (or put their entire hopes on Nintendo) due to the history which they have (bad one might we add).

Korrigan777

i didnt know nintendo and square had a bad history


I think the bad history between Square and Nintendo comes from the supposed backstabing by Square to Nintendo during the time of the PlayStation 1 and Nintendo 64. i remember reading, and perhaps others might have come across the same thing, that when Square jumped ship to the PlayStation Nintendo didn't really put up much of a fight and that kinda insulted Square to some degree. Also that Sony had made a LOT of promises to Square if they could get others to develop on the PS1. Which leads to why a number of companies, mainly RPG ones I believe pulled their support from Nintendo. Then Square went on to publicly bad mouth Nintendo for a while.

I don't believe their bad relationship had to do with Nintendo still using carts as the could hold as much info as the cds at the time. Not all N64 games were the same size remember, they range from small to large. I think the above is also the reason why we didn't see a Square game on a Nintendo console for so long due to the bad blood that form due to Square's actions. I also seem to recall reading that due to that Square had a hard time getting games on the GBA and then the Nintendo DS. They had to make a Cube game in order to be allowed a DS kit. Which could be why FFCC on the Cube seem so below par. They might have been going through the motions since the real money was rereleasing all of their old Final Fantasy games on the Nintendo DS and GBA. I think before they were allowed to that Square actually made a public apology for their actions that caused the rift between the two companies. I do recall being pointed to an article that talked about that. It was said during an announcement of something else Square was announucing at the time.

How solid this all is I'm not sure. However it makes more sense to me that is what would have caused the rift between the two companies in the past and would explain why some companies decided to pull support the way they did. It just being that Nintendo still wanted to use carts just doesn't work for me. Could the cost of having to pay Nintendo for the carts been more then the losses they would have and most likely did get hit with due to the people pirating games on the PS1 due to them being on CDs? I don't think so.[/QUOT

[QUOTE="stika"][QUOTE="daqua_99"]

Square stays true to Sony because of the history.

Why would Square go to MS ... Square is a Japanese company and the 360 is selling like crap in the land of the rising sun.

Square won't go to Nintendo (or put their entire hopes on Nintendo) due to the history which they have (bad one might we add).

NeoStar9

i didnt know nintendo and square had a bad history


I think the bad history between Square and Nintendo comes from the supposed backstabing by Square to Nintendo during the time of the PlayStation 1 and Nintendo 64. i remember reading, and perhaps others might have come across the same thing, that when Square jumped ship to the PlayStation Nintendo didn't really put up much of a fight and that kinda insulted Square to some degree. Also that Sony had made a LOT of promises to Square if they could get others to develop on the PS1. Which leads to why a number of companies, mainly RPG ones I believe pulled their support from Nintendo. Then Square went on to publicly bad mouth Nintendo for a while.

I don't believe their bad relationship had to do with Nintendo still using carts as the could hold as much info as the cds at the time. Not all N64 games were the same size remember, they range from small to large. I think the above is also the reason why we didn't see a Square game on a Nintendo console for so long due to the bad blood that form due to Square's actions. I also seem to recall reading that due to that Square had a hard time getting games on the GBA and then the Nintendo DS. They had to make a Cube game in order to be allowed a DS kit. Which could be why FFCC on the Cube seem so below par. They might have been going through the motions since the real money was rereleasing all of their old Final Fantasy games on the Nintendo DS and GBA. I think before they were allowed to that Square actually made a public apology for their actions that caused the rift between the two companies. I do recall being pointed to an article that talked about that. It was said during an announcement of something else Square was announucing at the time.

How solid this all is I'm not sure. However it makes more sense to me that is what would have caused the rift between the two companies in the past and would explain why some companies decided to pull support the way they did. It just being that Nintendo still wanted to use carts just doesn't work for me. Could the cost of having to pay Nintendo for the carts been more then the losses they would have and most likely did get hit with due to the people pirating games on the PS1 due to them being on CDs? I don't think so.

All this is in the past. If SE wants to make money then their only alternative is to fully support the DS and Wii.

Explain why Square-enix havent yet cancelled FF13Versus for ps3 (seeing as they've spent less dev time on it) and make it a wii exclusive with 5 Ds spin offs?

The game is too far in development for it to be cancelled. You are also forgetting that SE has invested in an engine of their own(an engine that was built initially for the ps3 only).

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The Japanese call Kiritsu a bond amongst corporations.An unspoken union, or honor, something that is severely lacking in N American. This also part of the reason why Sony was able to buy up so much of Hollywood which at one time was strictly an American enterprise.

Square Enix remembers when Sony helped them through finances during their Final Fantasy Spirit Within fiasco, which nearly bankrupted Square as a company. Sony invested in Square and helped distributed the movie when no one else would. This is one of the key reasons for their Kiritsu.

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you think this bond can live through the fact that FFXIIi is probably costing squeenix an arm and a leg?

just a question :)no sarcasm or rudeness intended

Ah... So that exaplains fully why they stabbed Nintendo in the back... (I mean the first 6 FF were on Nintendo systems, along with most of if not all of their other games too)

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[QUOTE="Korrigan777"][QUOTE="mubarakibnumar"][QUOTE="NeoStar9"][QUOTE="stika"][QUOTE="daqua_99"]

Square stays true to Sony because of the history.

Why would Square go to MS ... Square is a Japanese company and the 360 is selling like crap in the land of the rising sun.

Square won't go to Nintendo (or put their entire hopes on Nintendo) due to the history which they have (bad one might we add).

mubarakibnumar

i didnt know nintendo and square had a bad history


I think the bad history between Square and Nintendo comes from the supposed backstabing by Square to Nintendo during the time of the PlayStation 1 and Nintendo 64. i remember reading, and perhaps others might have come across the same thing, that when Square jumped ship to the PlayStation Nintendo didn't really put up much of a fight and that kinda insulted Square to some degree. Also that Sony had made a LOT of promises to Square if they could get others to develop on the PS1. Which leads to why a number of companies, mainly RPG ones I believe pulled their support from Nintendo. Then Square went on to publicly bad mouth Nintendo for a while.

I don't believe their bad relationship had to do with Nintendo still using carts as the could hold as much info as the cds at the time. Not all N64 games were the same size remember, they range from small to large. I think the above is also the reason why we didn't see a Square game on a Nintendo console for so long due to the bad blood that form due to Square's actions. I also seem to recall reading that due to that Square had a hard time getting games on the GBA and then the Nintendo DS. They had to make a Cube game in order to be allowed a DS kit. Which could be why FFCC on the Cube seem so below par. They might have been going through the motions since the real money was rereleasing all of their old Final Fantasy games on the Nintendo DS and GBA. I think before they were allowed to that Square actually made a public apology for their actions that caused the rift between the two companies. I do recall being pointed to an article that talked about that. It was said during an announcement of something else Square was announucing at the time.

How solid this all is I'm not sure. However it makes more sense to me that is what would have caused the rift between the two companies in the past and would explain why some companies decided to pull support the way they did. It just being that Nintendo still wanted to use carts just doesn't work for me. Could the cost of having to pay Nintendo for the carts been more then the losses they would have and most likely did get hit with due to the people pirating games on the PS1 due to them being on CDs? I don't think so.[/QUOT

[QUOTE="stika"][QUOTE="daqua_99"]

Square stays true to Sony because of the history.

Why would Square go to MS ... Square is a Japanese company and the 360 is selling like crap in the land of the rising sun.

Square won't go to Nintendo (or put their entire hopes on Nintendo) due to the history which they have (bad one might we add).

NeoStar9

i didnt know nintendo and square had a bad history


I think the bad history between Square and Nintendo comes from the supposed backstabing by Square to Nintendo during the time of the PlayStation 1 and Nintendo 64. i remember reading, and perhaps others might have come across the same thing, that when Square jumped ship to the PlayStation Nintendo didn't really put up much of a fight and that kinda insulted Square to some degree. Also that Sony had made a LOT of promises to Square if they could get others to develop on the PS1. Which leads to why a number of companies, mainly RPG ones I believe pulled their support from Nintendo. Then Square went on to publicly bad mouth Nintendo for a while.

I don't believe their bad relationship had to do with Nintendo still using carts as the could hold as much info as the cds at the time. Not all N64 games were the same size remember, they range from small to large. I think the above is also the reason why we didn't see a Square game on a Nintendo console for so long due to the bad blood that form due to Square's actions. I also seem to recall reading that due to that Square had a hard time getting games on the GBA and then the Nintendo DS. They had to make a Cube game in order to be allowed a DS kit. Which could be why FFCC on the Cube seem so below par. They might have been going through the motions since the real money was rereleasing all of their old Final Fantasy games on the Nintendo DS and GBA. I think before they were allowed to that Square actually made a public apology for their actions that caused the rift between the two companies. I do recall being pointed to an article that talked about that. It was said during an announcement of something else Square was announucing at the time.

How solid this all is I'm not sure. However it makes more sense to me that is what would have caused the rift between the two companies in the past and would explain why some companies decided to pull support the way they did. It just being that Nintendo still wanted to use carts just doesn't work for me. Could the cost of having to pay Nintendo for the carts been more then the losses they would have and most likely did get hit with due to the people pirating games on the PS1 due to them being on CDs? I don't think so.

All this is in the past. If SE wants to make money then their only alternative is to fully support the DS and Wii.

Explain why Square-enix havent yet cancelled FF13Versus for ps3 (seeing as they've spent less dev time on it) and make it a wii exclusive with 5 Ds spin offs?

The game is too far in development for it to be cancelled. You are also forgetting that SE has invested in an engine of their own(an engine that was built initially for the ps3 only).

the engine is open platform.

The game wouldnt be cancelled just shifted onto the wii.

This doesnt counter the "5 ds spin offs" thing.

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Two things:

1) The PS3 is capable of handling the beautifulgraphics Final Fantasyis known for (that rules out the Wii)

2) The Xbox 360 doesn't sell in Japan

The PS3 is the only system that can handle graphically superior games that will sell well in Japan (which is where the majority of their games sell best)

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Let us just say it involves hefty sums of cash, ignore the whole nonsense about honour.Caviglia

You know very little about the Japanese culture, it would appear.

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They bet on the wrong horse and aren't too keen on the 360 or PC (the only platforms FFXIII could be ported to). Expect them to strongly support the Wii with their next batch of games if it continues to sell well.
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I remember them saying, they dont want one main winning console this gen, but rather it to even out. They are keeping big gems on ps3 to help sony out, besides thats the only reason im getting a ps3.
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These games will sell fine on the PS3 this isn't some no-name RPG we are talking about. They will probably be released just in time for Christmas next year, and i'm sure the price of the PS3 will have dropped once and maybe even twice by then and the install base will grow enough by then for them to warrant these exclusives. I also know more than a few people that are going to buy a PS3 for MGS4 and FFXIII alone.
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I remember them saying, they dont want one main winning console this gen, but rather it to even out. They are keeping big gems on ps3 to help sony out, besides thats the only reason im getting a ps3.ff-leader

If they keep helping sony out they too might need saving.

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Their games have done well on the sony platform. "If it's not broken, don't fix it"
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In terms of FFXIII they don't have much choice right now. they bet on the ps3 winning and created the game specifically for the ps3. they can try to port it to 360 but that won't sell as much in Japan, and they would have to seriously downgrade the currect game for it to work on the wii. they're kinda screwed and praying that the ps3 will rebound in 08 before they release.
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The DQ series is much bigger in Japan then FF and developing a DS game is far cheaper then an epic next gen title. I believe they feel that Xbox fans want meathead shooters, and wouldn't appreciate a really good jrpg, therefore costs would outweigh profits. At this point I think the FFXIII series is locked in to the ps3, but worldwide sales would help sway SE to making the next installment multi-plat.
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In terms of FFXIII they don't have much choice right now. they bet on the ps3 winning and created the game specifically for the ps3. they can try to port it to 360 but that won't sell as much in Japan, and they would have to seriously downgrade the currect game for it to work on the wii. they're kinda screwed and praying that the ps3 will rebound in 08 before they release.Ontain

You see this is what really bothers me about 3rd partys this gen. Even with the example set by the DS they still chose to abandon nintendo.

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[QUOTE="ff-leader"]I remember them saying, they dont want one main winning console this gen, but rather it to even out. They are keeping big gems on ps3 to help sony out, besides thats the only reason im getting a ps3.mubarakibnumar

If they keep helping sony out they too might need saving.

LOL you do understand how much money they make off of there DS games right? Not to mention the Wii games they have planned, which is the most sold console in Japan by a wide margin. I don't think 2 games for the PS3 are gonna hurt them even a little.

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[QUOTE="mubarakibnumar"]

[QUOTE="ff-leader"]I remember them saying, they dont want one main winning console this gen, but rather it to even out. They are keeping big gems on ps3 to help sony out, besides thats the only reason im getting a ps3.phoenaxe

If they keep helping sony out they too might need saving.

LOL you do understand how much money they make off of there DS games right? Not to mention the Wii games they have planned, which is the most sold console in Japan by a wide margin. I don't think 2 games for the PS3 are gonna hurt them even a little.

Yeah i know BUT when said game costs at least $20 million to make and atleast another 20 million to market it then you know you are in trouble.

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Even if the PS3 only sells 8 million by next Christmas which i'm sure it will be more, FFXIII will sell atleast 1-2 Million, which is anywhere from 60-120 million dollars. I'm sure that will pay for the game and advertisement. Final Fantasy has always been a system seller and the price of the PS3 will drop as i have already stated once and maybe even twice by then. Don't be mad that you can't play FFXIII, If you want to play all the good games this gen you will do what i did and buy all the systems!
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Even if the PS3 only sells 8 million by next Christmas which i'm sure it will be more, FFXIII will sell atleast 1-2 Million, which is anywhere from 60-120 million dollars. I'm sure that will pay for the game and advertisement. Final Fantasy has always been a system seller and the price of the PS3 will drop as i have already stated once and maybe even twice by then. Don't be mad that you can't play FFXIII, If you want to play all the good games this gen you will do what i did and buy all the systems!phoenaxe

SE wouldn't get all of the money from the sales though. remember that Sony, the factories that produce it and the retailer will get a cut as well. I remember reading that the average ps3 game needs 500k unit sales to break even. I think FFXIII's production costs much more than average. they'll probably need 750k-1million to break even.

if they sell 2 million that's good. but i'm sure they would be crying knowing that they could have used the money and time to create many more games with higher return on investments.

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Square seems to like Nintendo a lot at the present time, making Dragon Quest 9 DS exclusive, Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced 2, Crystal Chronicles etc all being for Nintendo platforms whereas the PSP gets a spin off of a pre-existing game. The PS3 gets FF13 and it's spinoff but at least Nintendo fans are getting some original and unique content.
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Well It's not so much that they like sony but the Playstation hardware,starting from the original Playstation,has been more in line with what square wants (I.e cd vs Nintendo cartradge)

It's the same this gen with Sony opting for Blu-ray as the storage medium vs dvd's,square-enix makes rpg's,and their rpg's need large storage capabilities,they go hand-in-hand with each other.

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Square seems to like Nintendo a lot at the present time, making Dragon Quest 9 DS exclusive, Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced 2, Crystal Chronicles etc all being for Nintendo platforms whereas the PSP gets a spin off of a pre-existing game. The PS3 gets FF13 and it's spinoff but at least Nintendo fans are getting some original and unique content.DSgamer64

LOL what are you talking about how many remakes of pre-existing games have ended up on the DS/ and i think GBA.

FF13, FF13 versus(NOT a spin off please educate yourself) are square-enix's most ambitiousprojects ever. Ifyou read an interview with the top devs likekitase, nomura, and toriyama you'dknow where their passsions lie.

if you think Crystal chronicles is the better end of the deal :lol:

you know that star ocean 4 has been ruled out as coming out on the wii?

it's either a ps3 or 360 exclusive, unless microsoft have been throwing at loots of $$$ i'm thinking it'll be a ps3 exclusive, considering the weakness of the 360 in japan.

Famitsu confirmed it'll be a single console exclusive.

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#73 Ragnarok1051
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Square seems to like Nintendo a lot at the present time, making Dragon Quest 9 DS exclusive, Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced 2, Crystal Chronicles etc all being for Nintendo platforms whereas the PSP gets a spin off of a pre-existing game. The PS3 gets FF13 and it's spinoff but at least Nintendo fans are getting some original and unique content.

DSgamer64

Are you calling FF13 unoriginal? The Wii is getting spinoffs, the PS3 is getting the main games.

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#74 phoenaxe
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[QUOTE="DSgamer64"]Square seems to like Nintendo a lot at the present time, making Dragon Quest 9 DS exclusive, Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced 2, Crystal Chronicles etc all being for Nintendo platforms whereas the PSP gets a spin off of a pre-existing game. The PS3 gets FF13 and it's spinoff but at least Nintendo fans are getting some original and unique content.

Ragnarok1051

Are you calling FF13 unoriginal? The Wii is getting spinoffs, the PS3 is getting the main games.

I don't think he was saying that FFXIII is unoriginal, he is just confused about FFXIII Versus which isn't a spinoff but it's own game. Also i think he is saying that altho PS3 gets XIII they are getting some love too.

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#75 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

[QUOTE="DSgamer64"]Square seems to like Nintendo a lot at the present time, making Dragon Quest 9 DS exclusive, Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced 2, Crystal Chronicles etc all being for Nintendo platforms whereas the PSP gets a spin off of a pre-existing game. The PS3 gets FF13 and it's spinoff but at least Nintendo fans are getting some original and unique content.

phoenaxe

Are you calling FF13 unoriginal? The Wii is getting spinoffs, the PS3 is getting the main games.

I don't think he was saying that FFXIII is unoriginal, he is just confused about FFXIII Versus which isn't a spinoff but it's own game. Also i think he is saying that altho PS3 gets XIII they are getting some love too.

They call the sequal to Chrystal Chronicles love? That game was horrible.

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#76 darthogre
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Easy, FF (on PS1/PS2 and that FF movie) was supported by Sony and basically they have saved Squares *** financially over the years. That should garner a little loyalty, at least for the first couple years of PS3 life.

I know most Lems compare Loyalty and a MS payoff (GTA4 ring a bell....$50 mill) but sometimes you make good relationships over years and that can go a long way.

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#77 snorlaxmaster
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Its because the PS systems helped a lot of devs into the 3d realm, they have probably developed a close relationship over the years as well. ;)
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You got to role with the champ.
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#79 WuTangG
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They are yet another typical Xonophobic Japanese dev (talking about devs and NOT Japan people, i repeat about all those stupid devs you ignore the 360 completely)

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#80 Korrigan777
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[QUOTE="phoenaxe"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

[QUOTE="DSgamer64"]Square seems to like Nintendo a lot at the present time, making Dragon Quest 9 DS exclusive, Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced 2, Crystal Chronicles etc all being for Nintendo platforms whereas the PSP gets a spin off of a pre-existing game. The PS3 gets FF13 and it's spinoff but at least Nintendo fans are getting some original and unique content.

Ragnarok1051

Are you calling FF13 unoriginal? The Wii is getting spinoffs, the PS3 is getting the main games.

I don't think he was saying that FFXIII is unoriginal, he is just confused about FFXIII Versus which isn't a spinoff but it's own game. Also i think he is saying that altho PS3 gets XIII they are getting some love too.

They call the sequal to Chrystal Chronicles love? That game was horrible.

the game was soooooo bad i actually forget to put it on lists of most dissapointing games ever. i had to bleach the teerrible experience from my head. erughh.

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#81 Bdking57
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tradition would be with nintendo where square had its best titles.Square is going to make a huge push for nintendo but will not completely alienate sony. I dont know where that leaves microsoft.

Tradition, a long working relationship, and behind-closed-door contracts.fuzzysquash

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#82 ShmenonPie
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Because Sony are the best, namely because PS1 was the best console of the day, and sold most, PS2 was the best console of the day, and sold most, and PS3 is the only real next gen console out now. Maybe if the Xbox 720 comes out in 2 years, they might like M$ a bit more.