Why does Square Enix want the Xbox 360 to win in Japan?

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#1 infamous_27
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It just makes no sense. PS3 has the larger instal base in Japan and yet Square Enix still makes Xbox 360 exclusives. Don't they know the games will sell better on PS3! Maybe it's just Microsoft and their money. Maybe it's just lazy developers.

The funny thing is White Knight's Chronicle (a PS3 exclusive) sold more than any other JRPG in Japan on it's first week!


I feel sad for all those PS3 owners over in Japan...
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#2 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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For the lulz.
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It just makes no sense. PS3 has the larger instal base in Japan and yet Square Enix still makes Xbox 360 exclusives. Don't they know the games will sell better on PS3! Maybe it's just Microsoft and their money. Maybe it's just lazy developers.

The funny thing is White Knight's Chronicle (a PS3 exclusive) sold more than any other JRPG in Japan on it's first week!


I feel sad for all those PS3 owners over in Japan...infamous_27

Wii has the largest user base in Japan.

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#4 joopyme
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For the lulz.siLVURcross
i think so too. :P
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[QUOTE="infamous_27"]It just makes no sense. PS3 has the larger instal base in Japan and yet Square Enix still makes Xbox 360 exclusives. Don't they know the games will sell better on PS3! Maybe it's just Microsoft and their money. Maybe it's just lazy developers.

The funny thing is White Knight's Chronicle (a PS3 exclusive) sold more than any other JRPG in Japan on it's first week!


I feel sad for all those PS3 owners over in Japan...calvinx6

Wii has the largest user base in Japan.

Yeah but some developers just refuse to put games on the Wii.
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#6 luis1972
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Maybe you haven't been paying attention to Square's business strategy, but they (as well as many other Japanese gaming companies) have realized that a Japan-only strategy would eventually kill it. Making PS3-only games makes sense only in Japan but nowhere else. The fact is Square and other Japanese companies need European and North American gamers to buy their products. And in those territories, the 360 has a far larger install base. It's simple economics.
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#7 deactivated-5a84f3399aa1c
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They want to make money.
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[QUOTE="calvinx6"]

[QUOTE="infamous_27"]It just makes no sense. PS3 has the larger instal base in Japan and yet Square Enix still makes Xbox 360 exclusives. Don't they know the games will sell better on PS3! Maybe it's just Microsoft and their money. Maybe it's just lazy developers.

The funny thing is White Knight's Chronicle (a PS3 exclusive) sold more than any other JRPG in Japan on it's first week!


I feel sad for all those PS3 owners over in Japan...jakarai

Wii has the largest user base in Japan.

Yeah but some developers just refuse to put games on the Wii.

Have you seen the amount of shovelware that's been produced for the system already? I don't think the devs would hesitate to put a good game on the Wii.
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#9 BumFluff122
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That's why Final Fantasy XIII is multiplatform in Japan right? Oh wait it's PS3 only.
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#10 lolwotrickroll
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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]For the lulz.joopyme
i think so too. :P

I agree. oh and another reason could be that they're focusin on america not japan... jeez they dont realize the reason most people with 360s are buyin their games because they dint make em for the ps3 in the first place
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#11 Shafftehr
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It just makes no sense. PS3 has the larger instal base in Japan and yet Square Enix still makes Xbox 360 exclusives. Don't they know the games will sell better on PS3! Maybe it's just Microsoft and their money. Maybe it's just lazy developers.

The funny thing is White Knight's Chronicle (a PS3 exclusive) sold more than any other JRPG in Japan on it's first week!


I feel sad for all those PS3 owners over in Japan...infamous_27
I like it how Cows call any developer that doesn`t want to jump through Sony`s unnecessary programming hoops "lazy developers"... Square has a history of jumping ship on console producers who they feel are putting their interests ahead of those of the third party developers making games for their consoles. They did it with Nintendo when Nintendo after years of Nintendo holding back the good cartridge technology from 3rd party developers and general bullying when it came to developing on non-Nintendo platforms.. Maybe they're doing it now because they're sick of Sony's intentionally cramming difficult to program for propriety processors down developer's throats for generations, upping development time and cost.
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#12 DonPerian
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No company wants to see a console "win" or "lose". That's just System Wars talk. They're looking out for themselves. When they see the 360 as being a success, they support it.
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#13 ps3_owns_360Wii
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just to piss off fanboys lol
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#14 Flamestos
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Something's up at SE for sure I mean The Last Remnant (PS3) was positioned highly in Japan's most wanted list and Square hasn't even hinted at a target release date even though the 360 version is done and the PC version is on the way.
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#15 DeadMan1290
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It just makes no sense. PS3 has the larger instal base in Japan and yet Square Enix still makes Xbox 360 exclusives. Don't they know the games will sell better on PS3! Maybe it's just Microsoft and their money. Maybe it's just lazy developers.

The funny thing is White Knight's Chronicle (a PS3 exclusive) sold more than any other JRPG in Japan on it's first week!


I feel sad for all those PS3 owners over in Japan...infamous_27
They don't give a damn about PS3 owners or 360 owners for that matter. Just money.
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#16 DeadMan1290
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just to piss off fanboys lolps3_owns_360Wii
Or that.
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#17 jakarai
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Something's up at SE for sure I mean The Last Remnant (PS3) was positioned highly in Japan's most wanted list and Square hasn't even hinted at a target release date even though the 360 version is done and the PC version is on the way.Flamestos
I am betting M$ bought 6 month exclusive rights or maybe even a year.
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#18 Theverydeepend
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It just makes no sense. PS3 has the larger instal base in Japan and yet Square Enix still makes Xbox 360 exclusives. Don't they know the games will sell better on PS3! Maybe it's just Microsoft and their money. Maybe it's just lazy developers.

The funny thing is White Knight's Chronicle (a PS3 exclusive) sold more than any other JRPG in Japan on it's first week!


I feel sad for all those PS3 owners over in Japan...infamous_27
Because if they are on the side of 360 fans, then they will get increases in gross revenue from the USA. But still Sony does own like 10% of the Square Enix stock, so idk.
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#19 Janton3
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maybe because they want ff13 to sell better if more people owned 360s in Japan
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#20 TheGrat1
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Didnt you hear? Its because the PS3 is dead. Its done. Finished. The final nails have been firmly placed in the coffin. As Stewie Griffin once said: Game over man! Game over!

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#21 Dead-Memories
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It just makes no sense. PS3 has the larger instal base in Japan and yet Square Enix still makes Xbox 360 exclusives. Don't they know the games will sell better on PS3! Maybe it's just Microsoft and their money. Maybe it's just lazy developers.

The funny thing is White Knight's Chronicle (a PS3 exclusive) sold more than any other JRPG in Japan on it's first week!


I feel sad for all those PS3 owners over in Japan...infamous_27
Well they are trying to broaden their market and not lose support from microsoft, given the success of their console, they probably would want to keep them as partners. Take off the fanboy goggles and l2business
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#22 Roushrsh
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Because Microsoft pays for exclusives while Sony thinks that they deserve them
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#23 Jynxzor
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SE is trying to bring the JRPG market to America, unfortunatly if it doesnt say Final Fantasy JRPG's have a norotious history of not selling well in the western world, especially on the 360 the market for them just doesnt seem to be there.
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[QUOTE="calvinx6"]

[QUOTE="infamous_27"]It just makes no sense. PS3 has the larger instal base in Japan and yet Square Enix still makes Xbox 360 exclusives. Don't they know the games will sell better on PS3! Maybe it's just Microsoft and their money. Maybe it's just lazy developers.

The funny thing is White Knight's Chronicle (a PS3 exclusive) sold more than any other JRPG in Japan on it's first week!


I feel sad for all those PS3 owners over in Japan...jakarai

Wii has the largest user base in Japan.

Yeah but some developers just refuse to put games on the Wii.

so which platform will I be playing Dragon Quest 10 on this generation? enuff said
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[QUOTE="infamous_27"]It just makes no sense. PS3 has the larger instal base in Japan and yet Square Enix still makes Xbox 360 exclusives. Don't they know the games will sell better on PS3! Maybe it's just Microsoft and their money. Maybe it's just lazy developers.

The funny thing is White Knight's Chronicle (a PS3 exclusive) sold more than any other JRPG in Japan on it's first week!
I feel sad for all those PS3 owners over in Japan...Theverydeepend
Because if they are on the side of 360 fans, then they will get increases in gross revenue from the USA. But still Sony does own like 10% of the Square Enix stock, so idk.

I forgot about that. Maybe that is why Sony don't care that SE is doing more xbox stuff, They are getting money off of SE.

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#26 jk212
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Didnt you hear? Its because the PS3 is dead. Its done. Finished. The final nails have been firmly placed in the coffin. As Stewie Griffin once said: Game over man! Game over!

TheGrat1

bill gates killed oprah and then ninja abe lincoln came out with a bazooka and smashed it over obamas mama..what? i thought it was say stupid things day..

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#27 Flamestos
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SE is trying to bring the JRPG market to America, unfortunatly if it doesnt say Final Fantasy JRPG's have a norotious history of not selling well in the western world, especially on the 360 the market for them just doesnt seem to be there.Jynxzor
I'm sorry but if the PS2 couldn't do that with it's massive fanbase there is no way in hell the 360 is going to. SE are most likely testing the 360 but I don't know how well that's going to work out..
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#28 fbigent34
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So they can make more money on all system not just two...
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#29 obamanian
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It just makes no sense. PS3 has the larger instal base in Japan and yet Square Enix still makes Xbox 360 exclusives. Don't they know the games will sell better on PS3! Maybe it's just Microsoft and their money. Maybe it's just lazy developers.

The funny thing is White Knight's Chronicle (a PS3 exclusive) sold more than any other JRPG in Japan on it's first week!


I feel sad for all those PS3 owners over in Japan...infamous_27

If WKC tops the 800.000+ worldwide of Lost Odyssey, i am sure Square will support PS3 more

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#30 Evil_Saluki
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What it is, is that Square-Enix and there sister company churn out a lot of games. Some of these games are better then others. They have a quality control person who then looks at these games and if the game is good, then they move it to the Sony tray so they come out on one of there systems. Games that fail the quality control get throw into the X-box bin.

It's kind of like feeding a dog scraps.

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#31 Toriko42
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 Thanks to Microsoft that is Wadasan
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#32 farnham
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they dont

their strategy is clearly towards the DS and the Wii

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#33 hakanakumono
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they dont

their strategy is clearly towards the DS and the Wii

farnham

Square has hardly released anything for the Wii. o_O;

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#34 Toriko42
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[QUOTE="farnham"]

they dont

their strategy is clearly towards the DS and the Wii

hakanakumono

Square has hardly released anything for the Wii. o_O;

More like nothing, they do favor the DS though for handhelds with Chrono Trigger DS and The World Ends With You.
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#35 Zoso-8
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They don't want it to "win" or "lose". Companies aren't fanboys. They are trying to make money.
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#36 Wintry_Flutist
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Yeah but some developers just refuse to put games on the Wii.jakarai
In Japan it has laready changed.
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#37 kweeni
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if they want to make money why not just release games for both systems?
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#38 Floppy_Jim
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MS + $$$ is probably the reason why.
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Money... obviously.
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#40 st1ka
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It just makes no sense. PS3 has the larger instal base in Japan and yet Square Enix still makes Xbox 360 exclusives. Don't they know the games will sell better on PS3! Maybe it's just Microsoft and their money. Maybe it's just lazy developers.

The funny thing is White Knight's Chronicle (a PS3 exclusive) sold more than any other JRPG in Japan on it's first week!


I feel sad for all those PS3 owners over in Japan...infamous_27
i didn't know the world was restricted to Japan
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#41 bethwo
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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]For the lulz.joopyme
i think so too. :P

There really is no other plausible answer.
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#42 FirstDiscovery
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They didnt say anything like that, but yeah, the PS3 isnt doing too well, so theres no HD console there, if the 360 sells a few more units, then at least the HD console market will grow.
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#43 shutdown_202
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I agree with siLVURcross. Definately for the lulz
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[QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]just to piss off fanboys lolDeadMan1290
Or that.

I double that. Any company that pisses off fanboys earns my respect :D
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#45 Fhiz
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They dont? Are they releasing FFXIII for the 360 in Japan? No.They just realized being a third party exclusive in the age of multimillion dollar game development isn't worth it.

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#46 Abicus7
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SE hasnt made anything worth money since FF10

They are however, very good at putting 10 yr. old games in the blender and selling them for 60$ "New".

Square Soft were RPG gods. Square Enix, not so much, now they spend way too much time on perfect graphics/movie sequences, and wacky new battle systems that arent very fun.

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#47 MaximumD
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If a company pays you Millions of dollars to release exclusive games on their system, would you do it? It's all about money. Fanboys doesn't mean crap to them.
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#48 yoyo462001
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your being a hypocrite if you thought like that then every developer should develop for the Wii exlcusively...
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#49 Darkman2007
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the PS3 will continue to sell better then the 360 in Japan, but think about it this way

more Xbox360 users = more potential sales = more $$$$$

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#50 killerfist
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If you invest your money on a console like SE did, wouldn't you want it to be succesful? Kinda obvious, don't you think?