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#1 simslifer
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DC Universe online and now Final Fantasy they are both coming to PS3 and PC not 360 ?

do you think microsoft feels that 360 does not need mmos and pcs are better for it.

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DC Universe online and now Final Fantasy which are both coming to PS3 and PC yet not 360 ?

does microsoft think that tha a 360 version would take away from the PC version ?

simslifer
well first its up to the developer not microsoft, before Final fantasy 14 FF11 was one of the few mmo's on ps2 and ps3 *if you had a ps2 backwards compat ps3* phantasy star one of the only real other ones. With everquest being a sony owned franchise i do believe...
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[QUOTE="simslifer"]

DC Universe online and now Final Fantasy which are both coming to PS3 and PC yet not 360 ?

does microsoft think that tha a 360 version would take away from the PC version ?

can i tell you a little secret buddy ;)? huxley, age of conan hyborian adventure and apb are all mmo games... even thoguh i think huxley is vaporware and im not sure about age of conan
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NO DA 250 CANT HANDLE TEH MMOG@@ TEH CECLL CAN

The 360 does have MMOG but like all console MMOG there rubbish.

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#5 Bluray001
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Shane Kim admitted last year that Microsoft doesn't know how to do MMOGs

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DC Universe online and now Final Fantasy they are both coming to PS3 and PC not 360 ?

do you think microsoft feels that 360 does not need mmos and pcs are better for it.

simslifer

Phantasy Star Universe and Final Fantasy 11 are two MMO's on the 360.

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#7 porzdeadline
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Shane Kim admitted last year that Microsoft doesn't know how to do MMOGs

Bluray001
well luckily its not microsoft who makes the games
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#8 Bluray001
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[QUOTE="Bluray001"]

Shane Kim admitted last year that Microsoft doesn't know how to do MMOGs

porzdeadline

well luckily its not microsoft who makes the games

So Microsoft didn't make Asheron's Call or Asheron's Call 2? :D

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#9 double-r
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because most good mmo require subs and i doubt most people want to pay asubscription on top of a subscription

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#10 therealnerdd
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Lemmings rather play with guns. thats why
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#11 porzdeadline
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[QUOTE="Bluray001"]

[QUOTE="porzdeadline"][QUOTE="Bluray001"]

Shane Kim admitted last year that Microsoft doesn't know how to do MMOGs

well luckily its not microsoft who makes the games

So Microsoft didn't make Asheron's Call or Asheron's Call 2? :D

that is a question that i can not answer you :D because i have never even heard of these games
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#12 porzdeadline
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Lemmings rather play with guns. thats whytherealnerdd
and you rather put a group of 30 millionen gamers in one box
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#13 Bluray001
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[QUOTE="porzdeadline"][QUOTE="Bluray001"]

well luckily its not microsoft who makes the gamesporzdeadline
So Microsoft didn't make Asheron's Call or Asheron's Call 2? :D

that is a question that i can not answer you :D because i have never even heard of these games

That is because they both failed... horribly.
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#14 stank08
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MMO was built for pc's and should stay that way . It would be cool in theory , but would be a epic fail if they did so .
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#15 gensigns
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That is because they both failed... horribly.Bluray001
Asheron's Call lasted for over 5 years. It wasn't a failure, it just had the misforutune of being in Everquests's wake. Now Asheron's Call 2 on the other hand....
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Because they knew that MMO gamers plays non stop when they are addicted they don't want to trouble themselves answering phone calls from mmo gamer's reporting their RRoD xbox 360.

But I think they will do it now, I heard that jasper doesn't fail anymore.

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#17 SiKh22
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that conan game was suppose to come out, but it never has.
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Lemmings rather play with guns. thats whytherealnerdd
Thats why the 360 has a wider variety of games than does the PS3.
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#19 horsedungvideog
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Why shouldnt microsoft put exclusives on 360? They dont seem to be doing it much not enough.
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[QUOTE="therealnerdd"]Lemmings rather play with guns. thats whylhughey
Thats why the 360 has a wider variety of games than does the PS3.

I totally disagree with you on that one. Though the 360 is more diverse then the original Xbox and it has especially made big strides on the JRPG front, the PS3 still has a more diverse group of non-shooter flagship titles.

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#21 therealnerdd
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[QUOTE="therealnerdd"]Lemmings rather play with guns. thats whylhughey

Thats why the 360 has a wider variety of games than does the PS3.

Halo 3 sold over 10 million world wide.
Cod5 sold over 5 millionNA
Gears 2 sold over 5 million in NA

What do they have in common?

/thread.

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[QUOTE="simslifer"]

DC Universe online and now Final Fantasy they are both coming to PS3 and PC not 360 ?

do you think microsoft feels that 360 does not need mmos and pcs are better for it.

Champions Online anyone?
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#23 MyNameisaMeme
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[QUOTE="simslifer"]

DC Universe online and now Final Fantasy which are both coming to PS3 and PC yet not 360 ?

does microsoft think that tha a 360 version would take away from the PC version ?

porzdeadline

can i tell you a little secret buddy ;)? huxley, age of conan hyborian adventure and apb are all mmo games... even thoguh i think huxley is vaporware and im not sure about age of conan

APB is pc-only now.

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because most good mmo require subs and i doubt most people want to pay asubscription on top of a subscription

double-r
Um, did you know FF11 was playable on only a Silver account? Gold is not required to play a subscription MMO.
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[QUOTE="porzdeadline"][QUOTE="simslifer"]

DC Universe online and now Final Fantasy which are both coming to PS3 and PC yet not 360 ?

does microsoft think that tha a 360 version would take away from the PC version ?

MyNameisaMeme

can i tell you a little secret buddy ;)? huxley, age of conan hyborian adventure and apb are all mmo games... even thoguh i think huxley is vaporware and im not sure about age of conan

APB is pc-only now.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/989/989160p1.html This link says other-wise.
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[QUOTE="lhughey"][QUOTE="therealnerdd"]Lemmings rather play with guns. thats whytherealnerdd

Thats why the 360 has a wider variety of games than does the PS3.

Halo 3 sold over 10 million world wide.
Cod5 sold over 5 millionNA
Gears 2 sold over 5 million in NA

What do they have in common?

/thread.

Now count the number of JRPGs on each platform. You'll note that the 360's total is higher--not to mention among them are pretty good-quality JRPGs still talked about today. Why else did Square Enix relent and release 360 JRPGs and take FF13 multi? What about Arcade games and the like? Puzzle games? You don't have to look hard to see the 360's lineup is considerably more diverse.

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Because MMO's suck on consoles, there's just too much going on in an MMO for it to work with consoles.
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because most good mmo require subs and i doubt most people want to pay asubscription on top of a subscription

double-r
QFT plus MMOs are for PCs mainly
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I think any MMO will suck on both xbox360 and PS3 intill the mouse and keyboard are actually given full support.. I mean the PS3 could be light years a head of the xbox360 in terms of games like shooters if they actually gave mouse and keyboard support..
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Now count the number of JRPGs on each platform. You'll note that the 360's total is higher--not to mention among them are pretty good-quality JRPGs still talked about today. Why else did Square Enix relent and release 360 JRPGs and take FF13 multi? What about Arcade games and the like? Puzzle games? You don't have to look hard to see the 360's lineup is considerably more diverse.

HuusAsking

How much did those jrpg sold on 360? Not over a million. Lemmings would rather play with guns. I don't blame them, Gears, halo, cod would be boring as hell if the characters all look like anime, with an emo background.

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orignaly champion online was coming for xbox360 but got delayed because microsoft want some bit of money from dev. I forgot how much was it, but the dev of champion online are still in talks with microsoft.
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MMOs should stay on PC. Let them pay 14.95 a month to play one game.
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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]

Now count the number of JRPGs on each platform. You'll note that the 360's total is higher--not to mention among them are pretty good-quality JRPGs still talked about today. Why else did Square Enix relent and release 360 JRPGs and take FF13 multi? What about Arcade games and the like? Puzzle games? You don't have to look hard to see the 360's lineup is considerably more diverse.

therealnerdd

How much did those jrpg sold on 360? Not over a million. Lemmings would rather play with guns. I don't blame them, Gears, halo, cod would be boring as hell if the characters all look like anime, with an emo background.

Then again, how have JRPGs on the PS3 fared? IOW, it's not a symptom of the platform but of the genre.
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#34 Walker34
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they are trying to. They have a job posting to do exactly that. They also have been in talks with blizzard for quite some time to brign a blizzard MMO to the xbox.

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I think any MMO will suck on both xbox360 and PS3 intill the mouse and keyboard are actually given full support.. I mean the PS3 could be light years a head of the xbox360 in terms of games like shooters if they actually gave mouse and keyboard support..sSubZerOo
Mice and keyboards don't work as well off a desk. They can wobble on a lap, and using a table can lead to an uncomfortable lean. Anyway, as for MMOs needing hotkeys, what about those chatpads already available for either platform? Couldn't they provide the hotkeys?
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#36 djsifer01
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The Dervs dont make dedicated servers for the 360 thats why.
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#37 HuusAsking
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The Dervs dont make dedicated servers for the 360 thats why. djsifer01
Any MMO requires a dedicated server regardless of the platform...unless you're saying Sony's chipping in for the servers on their end.
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#38 PC360Wii
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MMOs should stay on PC. Let them pay 14.95 a month to play one game.Jamex1987
£9 WoW a month subscritpion - clocked at 100 days played £40 random 6-10 hour Xbox/PS3/Wii game. Ummm. I think I know what I would rather. thanks.

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I'm more concerned with people that actually want to play MMO games on their consoles.

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I bet it's cause their so greedy they demand a huge portation of the MMO fee lol.

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because most good mmo require subs and i doubt most people want to pay asubscription on top of a subscription

double-r
Knowing Microsoft, the real reason likely has nothing to do with 'technical issues' and everything to do with money...
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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]

Now count the number of JRPGs on each platform. You'll note that the 360's total is higher--not to mention among them are pretty good-quality JRPGs still talked about today. Why else did Square Enix relent and release 360 JRPGs and take FF13 multi? What about Arcade games and the like? Puzzle games? You don't have to look hard to see the 360's lineup is considerably more diverse.

therealnerdd

How much did those jrpg sold on 360? Not over a million. Lemmings would rather play with guns. I don't blame them, Gears, halo, cod would be boring as hell if the characters all look like anime, with an emo background.

You say that as if Valyria Chronicles and Eternal Sonata were chart toppers. I think you'd shed a tear if you compared the sales of Lost Odyssey to Valyria Chronicles or the sales of Eternal Sonata on PS3 to the 360 version.
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There's still two MMO's planned for 360, Champions Online and Huxley.
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[QUOTE="double-r"]

because most good mmo require subs and i doubt most people want to pay asubscription on top of a subscription

67gt500

Knowing Microsoft, the real reason likely has nothing to do with 'technical issues' and everything to do with money...

Which is why you can currently play FFXI with an Xbox Live Silver account......"CUZ TEH MONEE!!!!!!!"

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#45 SragentThom
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NO DA 250 CANT HANDLE TEH MMOG@@ TEH CECLL CAN

The 360 does have MMOG but like all console MMOG there rubbish.

CreepyBacon

Wrong with the cell part.

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#46 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="double-r"]

because most good mmo require subs and i doubt most people want to pay asubscription on top of a subscription

67gt500
Knowing Microsoft, the real reason likely has nothing to do with 'technical issues' and everything to do with money...

that doesn't explain why FF11 and PSU are currently on the 360 while champions online still on the way.
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[QUOTE="lhughey"][QUOTE="therealnerdd"]Lemmings rather play with guns. thats whytherealnerdd

Thats why the 360 has a wider variety of games than does the PS3.

Halo 3 sold over 10 million world wide.
Cod5 sold over 5 millionNA
Gears 2 sold over 5 million in NA

What do they have in common?

/thread.

Looks like Lemmings are not the only ones then.

http://www.videogamesblogger.com/2009/04/09/killzone-2-becomes-fastest-selling-ps3-game.htm

Not to mention the two Resistance games, MGS 4, Uncharted, COD4 and 5, all of which sold millions. And all of which have guns.

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#48 Supa__Mario
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maybe 360 cant handle it? i see no other reason why they havent yet
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#49 cobrax75
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There's still two MMO's planned for 360, Champions Online and Huxley.moose_knuckler

Huxely for the 360 got canned.

Champianss got delayed (and a lot of people believe it may ultimatly never come)

Very few MMO's come to the PS3 as well, its just that right now its getting all the SOE ones (even though they only have made like one good MMO)

it seems like neither console is well suited to them.

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#50 lawlessx
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maybe 360 cant handle it? i see no other reason why they havent yetSupa__Mario
last time i checked final fantasy 11 was an MMO