Why doesn't my 360 / PS3 games look as good as Crysis?

Why is it, that I bought my PC parts almost a year ago... and for some reason, all my PS3/360 games even on my 1080p tv, look way worse then Crysis, CoD4's single player, World in Conflict, The Witcher, etc. I don't get it, people on this board were telling me the PS3 and 360 could play games as good as the PC! This is bogus. I bought a $1000 5.1 Surround Sound system with HDMI throughput, a $2400 Samsung 40in 71F series TV with 25,000:1 contrast ratio... and of course the price of the console.

Are you telling me that my $4000 purchase can't keep up with my $2000 purchase? This is so stupid, the PS3 and the 360:

-the games look way worse
-I can't customize the graphics to the way I feel fit
-clearly more expensive, if you want to experience it the way the developers wanted you to experiance it (Standard Def, 720p or Stereo sound are not how they wanted you to experience it)
-can't even play x.264 HD movies
- I don't get the option to upgrade my consoles, which mean I am stuck with these graphics till the new ones come out
-have worse controls
-the harddrives are so small!
-don't have AIM/MSN/IRC
-no digital distrobution service for games, which means I can't lose the CDs/DVDs or I am going to get owned.
- the gaming friends lists are worse then Steam/Xfire/Ventrilo
- there is no Mod community or the ability to mod, which means I can't experiance half of content modders will be releasing on these games
-I have to "get up" to put in the cd instead of clicking on a shortcut
-surfing the web on them is worse
-I can't download MP3s on them
-why can't I overclock my console?
-I can't file my tax's on it

If I had known I was going to be spending all this money, just to run Folding@HOME and playing a dumbed down FPS like Halo 3; I wouldn't have bothered. Console gaming is so dumn :(

consoles always get outdated technically, i mean 360 was released 2 years ago for only $400 what did you expect it to own pc games after 2 years with same hardware? can a 2 year old card run Crysis at full settings?

consoles always get outdated technically, i mean 360 was released 2 years ago for only $400 what did you expect it to own pc games after 2 years with same hardware? can a 2 year old card run Crysis at full settings?

mingo123

360 can't even run CoD4 at full settings. The dev's stipped out a bunch of stuff from the PC version and said: "here is COD4, its got l33t graphics.... just don't look at the PC version". The 360 version is going to be 720p as well... what is that crap. I ran it on my PC at 1080p, all the while getting 60fps with better graphics. Is this a joke?

Consoles are always behind PC's and you should of known that ... in fact i'm sure you did and this is just flamebait but still i'll answer with this:

Consoles best for; multiplayer in the same room + action oriented games + average graphics.

PC's best for; multiplayer over the net + strategy/rpg oriented games + the best graphics.

There are crossovers but that is the general rule and the reason I buy the set ;).

[QUOTE="mingo123"]

consoles always get outdated technically, i mean 360 was released 2 years ago for only $400 what did you expect it to own pc games after 2 years with same hardware? can a 2 year old card run Crysis at full settings?

rimnet00

Why do you have The Orange Box for 360 AND PC?

[QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

consoles always get outdated technically, i mean 360 was released 2 years ago for only $400 what did you expect it to own pc games after 2 years with same hardware? can a 2 year old card run Crysis at full settings?

ball_of_air

Why do you have The Orange Box for 360 AND PC?

I also have Bioshock for PC and 360. I wanted to compare the two. Guess which one was better? Let's just say, its the one that doesn't flash you with three red lights, randomly.

[QUOTE="mingo123"]

consoles always get outdated technically, i mean 360 was released 2 years ago for only $400 what did you expect it to own pc games after 2 years with same hardware? can a 2 year old card run Crysis at full settings?

rimnet00

360 can't even run CoD4 at full settings. The dev's stipped out a bunch of stuff from the PC version and said: "here is COD4, its got l33t graphics.... just don't look at the PC version". The 360 version is going to be 720p as well... what is that crap. I ran it on my PC at 1080p, all the while getting 60fps with better graphics. Is this a joke?

hmmm i dont know, i bought 360 premium for nearly 500 quids ( about $1000) with 4 games + extra controller + 2 play and charge kits, at that time i remember a graphics card that costed over 500 quids...pretty good, also i dont think pc version of cod4 is better looking then 360 maybe a little, console versions are alos locked at 60FPS

[QUOTE="ball_of_air"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

consoles always get outdated technically, i mean 360 was released 2 years ago for only $400 what did you expect it to own pc games after 2 years with same hardware? can a 2 year old card run Crysis at full settings?

rimnet00

Why do you have The Orange Box for 360 AND PC?

I also have Bioshock for PC and 360. I wanted to compare the two. Guess which one was better? Let's just say, its the one that doesn't flash you with three red lights, randomly.

i saw gametrailers bioshock 360/pc comparison and the different wasnt much noticeable, pc looked better but in some places i found 360 to look better as well

[QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

consoles always get outdated technically, i mean 360 was released 2 years ago for only $400 what did you expect it to own pc games after 2 years with same hardware? can a 2 year old card run Crysis at full settings?

mingo123

360 can't even run CoD4 at full settings. The dev's stipped out a bunch of stuff from the PC version and said: "here is COD4, its got l33t graphics.... just don't look at the PC version". The 360 version is going to be 720p as well... what is that crap. I ran it on my PC at 1080p, all the while getting 60fps with better graphics. Is this a joke?

hmmm i dont know, i bought 360 premium for nearly 500 quids ( about $1000) with 4 games + extra controller + 2 play and charge kits, at that time i remember a graphics card that costed over 500 quids...pretty good, also i dont think pc version of cod4 is better looking then 360 maybe a little, console versions are alos locked at 60FPS

Just on medium settings, it blows the 360 version out of the water. Do you want me to give you screen shots from my copy? On medium?

Why is it, that I bought my PC parts almost a year ago... and for some reason, all my PS3/360 games even on my 1080p tv, look way worse then Crysis, CoD4's single player, World in Conflict, The Witcher, etc. I don't get it, people on this board were telling me the PS3 and 360 could play games as good as the PC! This is bogus. I bought a $1000 5.1 Surround Sound system with HDMI throughput, a $2400 Samsung 40in 71F series TV with 25,000:1 contrast ratio... and of course the price of the console.

Are you telling me that my $4000 purchase can't keep up with my $2000 purchase? This is so stupid, the PS3 and the 360:

-the games look way worse
-I can't customize the graphics to the way I feel fit
-clearly more expensive, if you want to experience it the way the developers wanted you to experiance it (Standard Def, 720p or Stereo sound are not how they wanted you to experience it)
-can't even play x.264 HD movies
- I don't get the option to upgrade my consoles, which mean I am stuck with these graphics till the new ones come out
-have worse controls
-the harddrives are so small!
-don't have AIM/MSN/IRC
-no digital distrobution service for games, which means I can't lose the CDs/DVDs or I am going to get owned.
- the gaming friends lists are worse then Steam/Xfire/Ventrilo
- there is no Mod community or the ability to mod, which means I can't experiance half of content modders will be releasing on these games
-I have to "get up" to put in the cd instead of clicking on a shortcut
-surfing the web on them is worse
-I can't download MP3s on them
-why can't I overclock my console?
-I can't file my tax's on it

If I had known I was going to be spending all this money, just to run Folding@HOME and playing a dumbed down FPS like Halo 3; I wouldn't have bothered. Console gaming is so dumn :(

rimnet00

[QUOTE="mingo123"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

consoles always get outdated technically, i mean 360 was released 2 years ago for only $400 what did you expect it to own pc games after 2 years with same hardware? can a 2 year old card run Crysis at full settings?

rimnet00

360 can't even run CoD4 at full settings. The dev's stipped out a bunch of stuff from the PC version and said: "here is COD4, its got l33t graphics.... just don't look at the PC version". The 360 version is going to be 720p as well... what is that crap. I ran it on my PC at 1080p, all the while getting 60fps with better graphics. Is this a joke?

hmmm i dont know, i bought 360 premium for nearly 500 quids ( about $1000) with 4 games + extra controller + 2 play and charge kits, at that time i remember a graphics card that costed over 500 quids...pretty good, also i dont think pc version of cod4 is better looking then 360 maybe a little, console versions are alos locked at 60FPS

Just on medium settings, it blows the 360 version out of the water. Do you want me to give you screen shots from my copy? On medium?

give me screens from high settings lol ill compare it to my game running on SDTV....when i get the game obviously...6 more to uk release :evil:

[QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="ball_of_air"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

consoles always get outdated technically, i mean 360 was released 2 years ago for only $400 what did you expect it to own pc games after 2 years with same hardware? can a 2 year old card run Crysis at full settings?

mingo123

Why do you have The Orange Box for 360 AND PC?

I also have Bioshock for PC and 360. I wanted to compare the two. Guess which one was better? Let's just say, its the one that doesn't flash you with three red lights, randomly.

i saw gametrailers bioshock 360/pc comparison and the different wasnt much noticeable, pc looked better but in some places i found 360 to look better as well

Thats because its a game made for 360 and PC. They are basically the same, except PC can change settings and enable AA and AF. Oh yeah and get 60+ fps. To answer the TC's question. PC technology comes out so fast, usually when a console first hits the market they really are better than PC. But within a few months the PC surpasses them and continues to through out the consoles lifetime. Though its expensive to keep upgrading....

how can u count a over priced tv into ur console bill?im sure u dont only play games on it..but most of the parts in ur pc is just for gaming. and since u seem to be all about graphics u must be ready to replace them.

console give u a cheap way to play fun games.if u like pc gaming so much why would u buy two consoles?

u seem to have more money then brains and thats a good thing cause ur gonna need it when u upgrade ur pc next year...

the answer is simple. it's useless to dicuss this.

Klie Mingo123 said: "consoles always get outdated technically". Pc's can be upgraded.

how can u count a over priced tv into ur console bill?im sure u dont only play games on it..but most of the parts in ur pc is just for gaming. and since u seem to be all about graphics u must be ready to replace them.

console give u a cheap way to play fun games.if u like pc gaming so much why would u buy two consoles?

u seem to have more money then brains and thats a good thing cause ur gonna need it when u upgrade ur pc next year...

munsoned

Some people have high paying jobs, such as me, and maybe the TC. We can AFFORD to throw money around. I own all 3 consoles, and buy multiplats for each. Why? 1 for me, 1 for my wife, and 1 for my son. Although the PS3 hasn't been touched in months due to lacklustre ports, but I am contemplating on buying R&C ToD being the only worthwhile game to come out on the ps3 in a while..

[QUOTE="mingo123"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="ball_of_air"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

consoles always get outdated technically, i mean 360 was released 2 years ago for only $400 what did you expect it to own pc games after 2 years with same hardware? can a 2 year old card run Crysis at full settings?

Ramadear

Why do you have The Orange Box for 360 AND PC?

I also have Bioshock for PC and 360. I wanted to compare the two. Guess which one was better? Let's just say, its the one that doesn't flash you with three red lights, randomly.

i saw gametrailers bioshock 360/pc comparison and the different wasnt much noticeable, pc looked better but in some places i found 360 to look better as well

Thats because its a game made for 360 and PC. They are basically the same, except PC can change settings and enable AA and AF. Oh yeah and get 60+ fps. To answer the TC's question. PC technology comes out so fast, usually when a console first hits the market they really are better than PC. But within a few months the PC surpasses them and continues to through out the consoles lifetime. Though its expensive to keep upgrading....

Better then the PC? Errr wrong. When the X360 came out, the x1900XTX was on the market, and we all know how that card turned out.

[QUOTE="rimnet00"]

Why is it, that I bought my PC parts almost a year ago... and for some reason, all my PS3/360 games even on my 1080p tv, look way worse then Crysis, CoD4's single player, World in Conflict, The Witcher, etc. I don't get it, people on this board were telling me the PS3 and 360 could play games as good as the PC! This is bogus. I bought a $1000 5.1 Surround Sound system with HDMI throughput, a $2400 Samsung 40in 71F series TV with 25,000:1 contrast ratio... and of course the price of the console.

Are you telling me that my $4000 purchase can't keep up with my $2000 purchase? This is so stupid, the PS3 and the 360:

-the games look way worse
-I can't customize the graphics to the way I feel fit
-clearly more expensive, if you want to experience it the way the developers wanted you to experiance it (Standard Def, 720p or Stereo sound are not how they wanted you to experience it)
-can't even play x.264 HD movies
- I don't get the option to upgrade my consoles, which mean I am stuck with these graphics till the new ones come out
-have worse controls
-the harddrives are so small!
-don't have AIM/MSN/IRC
-no digital distrobution service for games, which means I can't lose the CDs/DVDs or I am going to get owned.
- the gaming friends lists are worse then Steam/Xfire/Ventrilo
- there is no Mod community or the ability to mod, which means I can't experiance half of content modders will be releasing on these games
-I have to "get up" to put in the cd instead of clicking on a shortcut
-surfing the web on them is worse
-I can't download MP3s on them
-why can't I overclock my console?
-I can't file my tax's on it

If I had known I was going to be spending all this money, just to run Folding@HOME and playing a dumbed down FPS like Halo 3; I wouldn't have bothered. Console gaming is so dumn :(

l-_-l

[QUOTE="Ramadear"][QUOTE="mingo123"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="ball_of_air"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

consoles always get outdated technically, i mean 360 was released 2 years ago for only $400 what did you expect it to own pc games after 2 years with same hardware? can a 2 year old card run Crysis at full settings?

WhySoCry

Why do you have The Orange Box for 360 AND PC?

I also have Bioshock for PC and 360. I wanted to compare the two. Guess which one was better? Let's just say, its the one that doesn't flash you with three red lights, randomly.

i saw gametrailers bioshock 360/pc comparison and the different wasnt much noticeable, pc looked better but in some places i found 360 to look better as well

Thats because its a game made for 360 and PC. They are basically the same, except PC can change settings and enable AA and AF. Oh yeah and get 60+ fps. To answer the TC's question. PC technology comes out so fast, usually when a console first hits the market they really are better than PC. But within a few months the PC surpasses them and continues to through out the consoles lifetime. Though its expensive to keep upgrading....

Better then the PC? Errr wrong. When the X360 came out, the x1900XTX was on the market, and we all know how that card turned out.

Let me know how the x1900 xt will run Gears on PC at high resolutions.

Consoles are set platforms released 1 or 2 years ago with hardware that was in many cases at least 6 months old at release. There is no possible way they could compete with recently released hardware a generation (video card generation e.g. PS3 GPU similar to 7800, Crysis needs a 8800 and even then doesn't run perfect) later from the same companies that made the GPUs for these consoles. Considering this, should have anyone expected consoles to have graphics on the same level of Crysis?

However people who bought a console can expect to be able to play any game released for their console the way the developer intended and more often then not that will mean a decent frame rate and a good level of graphics when the cost and level of hardware is considered.

Consoles are set platforms released 1 or 2 years ago with hardware that was in many cases at least 6 months old at release. There is no possible way they could compete with recently released hardware a generation (video card generation e.g. PS3 GPU similar to 7800, Crysis needs a 8800 and even then doesn't run perfect) later from the same companies that made the GPUs for these consoles. Considering this, should have anyone expected consoles to have graphics on the same level of Crysis?

However people who bought a console can expect to be able to play any game released for their console the way the developer intended and more often then not that will mean a decent frame rate and a good level of graphics when the cost and level of hardware is considered.

TiberiusKane

360 was pretty up to date with most pcs at the time of release, heck even a little better

[QUOTE="WhySoCry"][QUOTE="Ramadear"][QUOTE="mingo123"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="ball_of_air"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

consoles always get outdated technically, i mean 360 was released 2 years ago for only $400 what did you expect it to own pc games after 2 years with same hardware? can a 2 year old card run Crysis at full settings?

Ramadear

Why do you have The Orange Box for 360 AND PC?

I also have Bioshock for PC and 360. I wanted to compare the two. Guess which one was better? Let's just say, its the one that doesn't flash you with three red lights, randomly.

i saw gametrailers bioshock 360/pc comparison and the different wasnt much noticeable, pc looked better but in some places i found 360 to look better as well

Thats because its a game made for 360 and PC. They are basically the same, except PC can change settings and enable AA and AF. Oh yeah and get 60+ fps. To answer the TC's question. PC technology comes out so fast, usually when a console first hits the market they really are better than PC. But within a few months the PC surpasses them and continues to through out the consoles lifetime. Though its expensive to keep upgrading....

Better then the PC? Errr wrong. When the X360 came out, the x1900XTX was on the market, and we all know how that card turned out.

Let me know how the x1900 xt will run Gears on PC at high resolutions.

Ok, when the benchmarks come out, I will never see your face again. And what do you mean by HIGH res? It only needs to be at the same settings as the X360 for it to be the same. (720p, 2x aa, 0x af)

[QUOTE="TiberiusKane"]

Consoles are set platforms released 1 or 2 years ago with hardware that was in many cases at least 6 months old at release. There is no possible way they could compete with recently released hardware a generation (video card generation e.g. PS3 GPU similar to 7800, Crysis needs a 8800 and even then doesn't run perfect) later from the same companies that made the GPUs for these consoles. Considering this, should have anyone expected consoles to have graphics on the same level of Crysis?

However people who bought a console can expect to be able to play any game released for their console the way the developer intended and more often then not that will mean a decent frame rate and a good level of graphics when the cost and level of hardware is considered.

mingo123

360 was pretty up to date with most pcs at the time of release, heck even a little better

The software was but the hardware wasn't. PC developers for the most part (I'm look at you Crytek) try to cater for the lowest common denominator. You can make engines scaleable but there are limits and because of this PC software often lags about 6 months to a year behind the hardware. When the 360 was released you could buy a PC more powerful than the 360 but it wasn't until later you could buy games that would really use that extra power.

[QUOTE="mingo123"][QUOTE="TiberiusKane"]

Consoles are set platforms released 1 or 2 years ago with hardware that was in many cases at least 6 months old at release. There is no possible way they could compete with recently released hardware a generation (video card generation e.g. PS3 GPU similar to 7800, Crysis needs a 8800 and even then doesn't run perfect) later from the same companies that made the GPUs for these consoles. Considering this, should have anyone expected consoles to have graphics on the same level of Crysis?

However people who bought a console can expect to be able to play any game released for their console the way the developer intended and more often then not that will mean a decent frame rate and a good level of graphics when the cost and level of hardware is considered.

TiberiusKane

360 was pretty up to date with most pcs at the time of release, heck even a little better

The software was but the hardware wasn't. PC developers for the most part (I'm look at you Crytek) try to cater for the lowest common denominator. You can make engines scaleable but there are limits and because of this PC software often lags about 6 months to a year behind the hardware. When the 360 was released you could buy a PC more powerful than the 360 but it wasn't until later you could buy games that would really use that extra power.

triple core, each 3.2ghz with top notch graphics card that still isnt outdated,2 years ago was amazing

[QUOTE="Ramadear"][QUOTE="WhySoCry"][QUOTE="Ramadear"][QUOTE="mingo123"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="ball_of_air"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

consoles always get outdated technically, i mean 360 was released 2 years ago for only $400 what did you expect it to own pc games after 2 years with same hardware? can a 2 year old card run Crysis at full settings?

WhySoCry

Why do you have The Orange Box for 360 AND PC?

I also have Bioshock for PC and 360. I wanted to compare the two. Guess which one was better? Let's just say, its the one that doesn't flash you with three red lights, randomly.

i saw gametrailers bioshock 360/pc comparison and the different wasnt much noticeable, pc looked better but in some places i found 360 to look better as well

Thats because its a game made for 360 and PC. They are basically the same, except PC can change settings and enable AA and AF. Oh yeah and get 60+ fps. To answer the TC's question. PC technology comes out so fast, usually when a console first hits the market they really are better than PC. But within a few months the PC surpasses them and continues to through out the consoles lifetime. Though its expensive to keep upgrading....

Better then the PC? Errr wrong. When the X360 came out, the x1900XTX was on the market, and we all know how that card turned out.

Let me know how the x1900 xt will run Gears on PC at high resolutions.

Ok, when the benchmarks come out, I will never see your face again. And what do you mean by HIGH res? It only needs to be at the same settings as the X360 for it to be the same. (720p, 2x aa, 0x af)

Why would I never post on the forums again because I could be wrong about benchmarks? That makes no sense. Anyhow when you do find benchmarks, make sure its a cpu from 2005 as well. Not just a gpu.

[QUOTE="mingo123"]

consoles always get outdated technically, i mean 360 was released 2 years ago for only $400 what did you expect it to own pc games after 2 years with same hardware? can a 2 year old card run Crysis at full settings?

rimnet00

360 can't even run CoD4 at full settings. The dev's stipped out a bunch of stuff from the PC version and said: "here is COD4, its got l33t graphics.... just don't look at the PC version". The 360 version is going to be 720p as well... what is that crap. I ran it on my PC at 1080p, all the while getting 60fps with better graphics. Is this a joke?

i ran the demo cod 4 in 1080 p

The only time you'll get a console game looking better than Crysis is when you're playing the Wii. most Wii games make Crysis look like it was made during the Nes & Sega Master System era.

triple core, each 3.2ghz with top notch graphics card that still isnt outdated,2 years ago was amazingmingo123

It's limited by the 512MB of shared RAM. Althon X2 4400 with 2GB of DDR2 and a 256MB Ge Force 7800 would be capable of better performance. The extra RAM would be the main reason for this and would allow higher texture resolutions. A well optimised game on 360 may look and run better than a poorly optimised one on that PC but the PC would have more potential.

Piff, let me know we PC gets a Ninja Gaiden game. (Legally.)

just kidding

pc will always be better.

[QUOTE="ball_of_air"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

consoles always get outdated technically, i mean 360 was released 2 years ago for only $400 what did you expect it to own pc games after 2 years with same hardware? can a 2 year old card run Crysis at full settings?

rimnet00

Why do you have The Orange Box for 360 AND PC?

I also have Bioshock for PC and 360. I wanted to compare the two. Guess which one was better? Let's just say, its the one that doesn't flash you with three red lights, randomly.

I think you take gaming way too seriously.

[QUOTE="WhySoCry"][QUOTE="Ramadear"][QUOTE="WhySoCry"][QUOTE="Ramadear"][QUOTE="mingo123"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="ball_of_air"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

consoles always get outdated technically, i mean 360 was released 2 years ago for only $400 what did you expect it to own pc games after 2 years with same hardware? can a 2 year old card run Crysis at full settings?

Ramadear

Why do you have The Orange Box for 360 AND PC?

I also have Bioshock for PC and 360. I wanted to compare the two. Guess which one was better? Let's just say, its the one that doesn't flash you with three red lights, randomly.

i saw gametrailers bioshock 360/pc comparison and the different wasnt much noticeable, pc looked better but in some places i found 360 to look better as well

Thats because its a game made for 360 and PC. They are basically the same, except PC can change settings and enable AA and AF. Oh yeah and get 60+ fps. To answer the TC's question. PC technology comes out so fast, usually when a console first hits the market they really are better than PC. But within a few months the PC surpasses them and continues to through out the consoles lifetime. Though its expensive to keep upgrading....

Better then the PC? Errr wrong. When the X360 came out, the x1900XTX was on the market, and we all know how that card turned out.

Let me know how the x1900 xt will run Gears on PC at high resolutions.

Ok, when the benchmarks come out, I will never see your face again. And what do you mean by HIGH res? It only needs to be at the same settings as the X360 for it to be the same. (720p, 2x aa, 0x af)

Why would I never post on the forums again because I could be wrong about benchmarks? That makes no sense. Anyhow when you do find benchmarks, make sure its a cpu from 2005 as well. Not just a gpu.

I own both the FX60 and a X1900.

[QUOTE="mingo123"]triple core, each 3.2ghz with top notch graphics card that still isnt outdated,2 years ago was amazingTiberiusKane

It's limited by the 512MB of shared RAM. Althon X2 4400 with 2GB of DDR2 and a 256MB Ge Force 7800 would be capable of better performance. The extra RAM would be the main reason for this and would allow higher texture resolutions. A well optimised game on 360 may look and run better than a poorly optimised one on that PC but the PC would have more potential.

512MB RAM is alot for console because it is different from pc, pc has to run a full OS with other stuff

[QUOTE="Ramadear"][QUOTE="WhySoCry"][QUOTE="Ramadear"][QUOTE="WhySoCry"][QUOTE="Ramadear"][QUOTE="mingo123"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="ball_of_air"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

consoles always get outdated technically, i mean 360 was released 2 years ago for only $400 what did you expect it to own pc games after 2 years with same hardware? can a 2 year old card run Crysis at full settings?

WhySoCry

Why do you have The Orange Box for 360 AND PC?

I also have Bioshock for PC and 360. I wanted to compare the two. Guess which one was better? Let's just say, its the one that doesn't flash you with three red lights, randomly.

i saw gametrailers bioshock 360/pc comparison and the different wasnt much noticeable, pc looked better but in some places i found 360 to look better as well

Thats because its a game made for 360 and PC. They are basically the same, except PC can change settings and enable AA and AF. Oh yeah and get 60+ fps. To answer the TC's question. PC technology comes out so fast, usually when a console first hits the market they really are better than PC. But within a few months the PC surpasses them and continues to through out the consoles lifetime. Though its expensive to keep upgrading....

Better then the PC? Errr wrong. When the X360 came out, the x1900XTX was on the market, and we all know how that card turned out.

Let me know how the x1900 xt will run Gears on PC at high resolutions.

Ok, when the benchmarks come out, I will never see your face again. And what do you mean by HIGH res? It only needs to be at the same settings as the X360 for it to be the same. (720p, 2x aa, 0x af)

Why would I never post on the forums again because I could be wrong about benchmarks? That makes no sense. Anyhow when you do find benchmarks, make sure its a cpu from 2005 as well. Not just a gpu.

I own both the FX60 and a X1900.

Benchmark Unreal Tournament 3 and tell me what you get.

consoles always get outdated technically, i mean 360 was released 2 years ago for only $400 what did you expect it to own pc games after 2 years with same hardware? can a 2 year old card run Crysis at full settings?

mingo123

May be true to an extent, but a game like KAMEO, COD4, Halo3, Oblivion, GOW, Mass Effect, Assassins Creed all look as good to me as anything I have seen for PC....This is however my opinion.

And once a game looks as good as these games...I could absolutely care less about "better graphics"...I still play all the original Splinter Cell games and they look fabulous to me still....

[QUOTE="mingo123"]triple core, each 3.2ghz with top notch graphics card that still isnt outdated,2 years ago was amazingTiberiusKane

It's limited by the 512MB of shared RAM. Althon X2 4400 with 2GB of DDR2 and a 256MB Ge Force 7800 would be capable of better performance. The extra RAM would be the main reason for this and would allow higher texture resolutions. A well optimised game on 360 may look and run better than a poorly optimised one on that PC but the PC would have more potential.

[QUOTE="mingo123"]triple core, each 3.2ghz with top notch graphics card that still isnt outdated,2 years ago was amazingTiberiusKane

It's limited by the 512MB of shared RAM. Althon X2 4400 with 2GB of DDR2 and a 256MB Ge Force 7800 would be capable of better performance. The extra RAM would be the main reason for this and would allow higher texture resolutions. A well optimised game on 360 may look and run better than a poorly optimised one on that PC but the PC would have more potential.

3 games that I can gaurantee will look just as impressive as Crysis.

Resident Evil 5
Final Fantasy XIII
Zone of The Enders 3
Adrian_Cloud

My three words: Very Closed Environments

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]3 games that I can gaurantee will look just as impressive as Crysis.

Resident Evil 5
Final Fantasy XIII
Zone of The Enders 3
rimnet00

My three words: Very Closed Environments

Very true, though I will say that RE5 looks awesome. I haven't seen ZOE3. However, FF13 in game was full of jaggies. It looked nothing like the CG, not even close to Crysis level. But I really don't expect it to be, its a rpg. It should be focusing on other things besides graphics.

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]3 games that I can gaurantee will look just as impressive as Crysis.

Resident Evil 5
Final Fantasy XIII
Zone of The Enders 3
rimnet00

My three words: Very Closed Environments

You haven't played either of the previous games. None of which were in closed enviroments, all had a large area where you could explore.

[QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]3 games that I can gaurantee will look just as impressive as Crysis.

Resident Evil 5
Final Fantasy XIII
Zone of The Enders 3
Adrian_Cloud

My three words: Very Closed Environments

You haven't played either of the previous games. None of which were in closed enviroments, all had a large area where you could explore.

Sure I have. I've played every RE, every FF minus the first three, and FF11. They were closed environment, especially RE1-3, where RE4 opened it up more. Still comparively with the Crysis, they are very closed environment. Just because the "game worlds" themselves were large, does not mean they were rendered dynamically. Instead, you moved from area to area, once full render pass at a time.

[QUOTE="ball_of_air"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

consoles always get outdated technically, i mean 360 was released 2 years ago for only $400 what did you expect it to own pc games after 2 years with same hardware? can a 2 year old card run Crysis at full settings?

rimnet00

Why do you have The Orange Box for 360 AND PC?

I also have Bioshock for PC and 360. I wanted to compare the two. Guess which one was better? Let's just say, its the one that doesn't flash you with three red lights, randomly.

I am 70% hermit 30% or so lemming in terms of games owned and play, and I wouldnt recommend the PC version of Bioshock to anyone because of its lame install procedure. 5 installations max, thats BS. Other than that, of course PC games look better, and they only will keep getting better as technology improves.