Why doesn't my 360 / PS3 games look as good as Crysis?

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#51 Polaris_choice
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[QUOTE="ball_of_air"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

consoles always get outdated technically, i mean 360 was released 2 years ago for only $400 what did you expect it to own pc games after 2 years with same hardware? can a 2 year old card run Crysis at full settings?

rimnet00


Oh, and the 360 cost me $500... the Premium != Core, and I also had to buy the VGA cable for 1080p out, and I had to get XBL $50... so I paid $600. 360 can't even run CoD4 at full settings. The dev's stipped out a bunch of stuff from the PC version and said: "here is COD4, its got l33t graphics.... just don't look at the PC version". The 360 version is going to be 720p as well... what is that crap. I ran it on my PC at 1080p, all the while getting 60fps with better graphics. Is this a joke?

Why do you have The Orange Box for 360 AND PC?

I also have Bioshock for PC and 360. I wanted to compare the two. Guess which one was better? Let's just say, its the one that doesn't flash you with three red lights, randomly.

Rimnet I see you here all the time and all you do is bash consoles you dont own either a PS3 or 360 and no Crysis running on a year old pc doesnt look better then any console game which futher proves you dontown a console. And yes both the PS3 and 360 run Cod4 at the highest settings any pc card a year ago isnt going to run the game at 60fps. And you want to compare Bioshock gamespot already did the comparison and showed the 360 version looked virtually identical to the game running on max settings and you can look atthe benmarks of cards that came out a year ago and there not running it better then the 360 so go home fakeboy.

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#52 Adrian_Cloud
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]3 games that I can gaurantee will look just as impressive as Crysis.

Resident Evil 5
Final Fantasy XIII
Zone of The Enders 3
rimnet00

My three words: Very Closed Environments

You haven't played either of the previous games. None of which were in closed enviroments, all had a large area where you could explore.

Sure I have. I've played every RE, every FF minus the first three, and FF11. They were closed environment, especially RE1-3, where RE4 opened it up more. Still comparively with the Crysis, they are very closed environment. Just because the "game worlds" themselves were large, does not mean they were rendered dynamically. Instead, you moved from area to area, once full render pass at a time.

:| Compared to WoW, Crysis is a closed enviroment. :| Closed enviroments are games that use plenty of corridors and have a linear path. None of those games have either of those characteristics.

Just wait until there release, you won't have to upgrade your PC to get graphics just as good or better than Crysis. Just buy a console.

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#53 Polaris_choice
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[QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]3 games that I can gaurantee will look just as impressive as Crysis.

Resident Evil 5
Final Fantasy XIII
Zone of The Enders 3
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My three words: Very Closed Environments

Very true, though I will say that RE5 looks awesome. I haven't seen ZOE3. However, FF13 in game was full of jaggies. It looked nothing like the CG, not even close to Crysis level. But I really don't expect it to be, its a rpg. It should be focusing on other things besides graphics.

Funny because almsot every preview said it was the closes to CGI they have ever seen. Regardless the game has at least another year left in dev and Final Fantasys are alwasy among the best looking games out on there platform. Its an RPG one of its main focuses should be graphics.

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#54 rimnet00
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Rimnet I see you here all the time and all you do is bash consoles you dont own either a PS3 or 360 and no Crysis running on a year old pc doesnt look better then any console game which futher proves you dontown a console. And yes both the PS3 and 360 run Cod4 at the highest settings any pc card a year ago isnt going to run the game at 60fps. And you want to compare Bioshock gamespot already did the comparison and showed the 360 version looked virtually identical to the game running on max settings and you can look atthe benmarks of cards that came out a year ago and there not running it better then the 360 so go home fakeboy.

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#55 Polaris_choice
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[QUOTE="mingo123"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

consoles always get outdated technically, i mean 360 was released 2 years ago for only $400 what did you expect it to own pc games after 2 years with same hardware? can a 2 year old card run Crysis at full settings?

rimnet00


Oh, and the 360 cost me $500... the Premium != Core, and I also had to buy the VGA cable for 1080p out, and I had to get XBL $50... so I paid $600, then the $50 dollars for for the recharge kit... $650. This doesn't even include the fact that I need a 1080p TV with high contrast ratio, and surround sound to play the game "the way developers designed it to play".

360 can't even run CoD4 at full settings. The dev's stipped out a bunch of stuff from the PC version and said: "here is COD4, its got l33t graphics.... just don't look at the PC version". The 360 version is going to be 720p as well... what is that crap. I ran it on my PC at 1080p, all the while getting 60fps with better graphics. Is this a joke?

hmmm i dont know, i bought 360 premium for nearly 500 quids ( about $1000) with 4 games + extra controller + 2 play and charge kits, at that time i remember a graphics card that costed over 500 quids...pretty good, also i dont think pc version of cod4 is better looking then 360 maybe a little, console versions are alos locked at 60FPS

Just on medium settings, it blows the 360 version out of the water. Do you want me to give you screen shots from my copy? On medium?

Yes please do and get your butt handed to you. The consoel versiosn only featured a MP demo while the pc version featrued a SP demo the SP always look more impressive then the MP and the PS3 shots they released looked a hell of alot better then the PC demo so that pretty much proves your point wrong right there.

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#56 xDonRobx
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Your whole argument was s***. I hope you were just bored..

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#57 Polaris_choice
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Rimnet I dont see a PS3 in any of those pictures. And people recycle there image shack shots all the time why dont you send us one of you giving the thumbs up in front of your television. There are 100 hundres of pics from people on the internet with there 360 and pc.
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#58 Heil68
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 PC guys can tweak settings!
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Post is not worth reading, looks are subjective. RE5 and Alan Wake are the 2 games that I think look alot better than Crysis visually and will be found on inferior hardware.
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#60 EntwineX
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Why is it, that I bought my PC parts almost a year ago... and for some reason, all my PS3/360 games even on my 1080p tv, look way worse then Crysis, CoD4's single player, World in Conflict, The Witcher, etc. I don't get it, people on this board were telling me the PS3 and 360 could play games as good as the PC! This is bogus. I bought a $1000 5.1 Surround Sound system with HDMI throughput, a $2400 Samsung 40in 71F series TV with 25,000:1 contrast ratio... and of course the price of the console.

Are you telling me that my $4000 purchase can't keep up with my $2000 purchase? This is so stupid, the PS3 and the 360:

-the games look way worse
-I can't customize the graphics to the way I feel fit
-clearly more expensive, if you want to experience it the way the developers wanted you to experiance it (Standard Def, 720p or Stereo sound are not how they wanted you to experience it)
-can't even play x.264 HD movies
- I don't get the option to upgrade my consoles, which mean I am stuck with these graphics till the new ones come out
-have worse controls
-the harddrives are so small!
-don't have AIM/MSN/IRC
-no digital distrobution service for games, which means I can't lose the CDs/DVDs or I am going to get owned.
- the gaming friends lists are worse then Steam/Xfire/Ventrilo
- there is no Mod community or the ability to mod, which means I can't experiance half of content modders will be releasing on these games
-I have to "get up" to put in the cd instead of clicking on a shortcut
-surfing the web on them is worse
-I can't download MP3s on them
-why can't I overclock my console?
-I can't file my tax's on it

If I had known I was going to be spending all this money, just to run Folding@HOME and playing a dumbed down FPS like Halo 3; I wouldn't have bothered. Console gaming is so dumn :(

rimnet00
Annother good one. :P Keep 'em coming...
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#61 NFJSupreme
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because console have dated technology while the PC doesn't.
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#62 cobrax25
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Post is not worth reading, looks are subjective. RE5 and Alan Wake are the 2 games that I think look alot better than Crysis visually and will be found on inferior hardware.Pro_wrestler

neither of those look better then crysis...and Alan Wake has only been shown running on a very high end PC...using DX10.

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#63 rimnet00
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Rimnet I dont see a PS3 in any of those pictures. And people recycle there image shack shots all the time why dont you send us one of you giving the thumbs up in front of your television. There are 100 hundres of pics from people on the internet with there 360 and pc. Polaris_choice

Any more requests, young one?

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#65 heaven_in_hell
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the most simplest and most correct answer I can give you is that, IT'S A PC DUDE!
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#67 WhySoCry
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I don't think we will see polaris in this thread ever again.

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#68 mingo123
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[QUOTE="TiberiusKane"]

[QUOTE="mingo123"]triple core, each 3.2ghz with top notch graphics card that still isnt outdated,2 years ago was amazingNormedia

How about NO! G5 architectures outperform any X86 compatible CPU by a wide margin as it pertains to floating point power. And a 7800 is absolute garbage when compared to the mighty ATI Xenos, dosnt even support unified shaders. Memory is where PC's would have an advantage, but with proper programming and such it isnt as much of a factor. WIndows eats resources like no tomorrow, whereas the 360's custom OS only 2-3% resources per core. You right about the relative potential for PC, but unfortunately they must design each game to support the lowest common demoninator

It's limited by the 512MB of shared RAM. Althon X2 4400 with 2GB of DDR2 and a 256MB Ge Force 7800 would be capable of better performance. The extra RAM would be the main reason for this and would allow higher texture resolutions. A well optimised game on 360 may look and run better than a poorly optimised one on that PC but the PC would have more potential.

did you use Quick Quote for that post? because i see ur msg wasnt displayed in that post and that is a problem with Quick Quote sometimes, if you quick quote ur msg does not show sometimes but the quote does,the problem can be fixed by using normal Quote :) its ok if you just wanted to quote him

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You payed $900 dollars in videocards alone, and you're wondering why your PC is so much more powerful? :lol:

"but but my PC can download MP3's :cry:"

Yah, so what? My consoles play HD DVD and Blu-ray movies. That alone makes my consoles a better media device for my home theater setup.

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Because the 360 and ps3 have games that run -perfectly- on the system no matter what and would rather have decent gameplay over pretty graphics?

Yeah, that's probably why. 90% of people that buy crisis wont be able to play it at decent standards, not that graphics mean a thing anyway, i still like to play pacman.

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#71 rimnet00
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You payed $900 dollars in videocards alone, and you're wondering why your PC is so much more powerful? :lol:

"but but my PC can download MP3's :cry:"

Yah, so what? My consoles play HD DVD and Blu-ray movies. That alone makes my consoles a better media device for my home theater setup.

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Mine plays x.264 movies, which is a H.254 video codec. The same one used on Bluray and HD-DVD movies. :)

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#72 rimnet00
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I don't think we will see polaris in this thread ever again.

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Probably not :P

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#73 Guitartod
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[QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

consoles always get outdated technically, i mean 360 was released 2 years ago for only $400 what did you expect it to own pc games after 2 years with same hardware? can a 2 year old card run Crysis at full settings?

ball_of_air


Oh, and the 360 cost me $500... the Premium != Core, and I also had to buy the VGA cable for 1080p out, and I had to get XBL $50... so I paid $600. 360 can't even run CoD4 at full settings. The dev's stipped out a bunch of stuff from the PC version and said: "here is COD4, its got l33t graphics.... just don't look at the PC version". The 360 version is going to be 720p as well... what is that crap. I ran it on my PC at 1080p, all the while getting 60fps with better graphics. Is this a joke?

Why do you have The Orange Box for 360 AND PC?

i have HL2 and HL2 episode 1 on pc but i still bought orange box for 360 too.

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#74 m3Boarder32
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[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"]

You payed $900 dollars in videocards alone, and you're wondering why your PC is so much more powerful? :lol:

"but but my PC can download MP3's :cry:"

Yah, so what? My consoles play HD DVD and Blu-ray movies. That alone makes my consoles a better media device for my home theater setup.

rimnet00

Mine plays x.264 movies, which is a H.254 video codec. The same one used on Bluray and HD-DVD movies. :)

Unless you are downloading 30-50GB files, they obviously aren't the same video and audio quality as having the actual disk.


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#75 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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You should do something better with your money -- try investing/buying stock.
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#76 rimnet00
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[QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"]

You payed $900 dollars in videocards alone, and you're wondering why your PC is so much more powerful? :lol:

"but but my PC can download MP3's :cry:"

Yah, so what? My consoles play HD DVD and Blu-ray movies. That alone makes my consoles a better media device for my home theater setup.

m3Boarder32

Mine plays x.264 movies, which is a H.254 video codec. The same one used on Bluray and HD-DVD movies. :)

Unless you are downloading 30-50GB files, they obviously aren't the same video and audio quality as having the actual disk.

x.264 uses much higher compression then h.264, resulting in a 1:.99 conversion, with at a much smaller filesize. This is why Bluray / HDDVD players dont have c2d and q2d processors in them. If you want more information, you will find it on the Doom9 forums. You do however need a good CPU to handle x.264 though, because of its insane compression ratio.

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#77 rimnet00
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You should do something better with your money -- try investing/buying stock.Stevo_the_gamer
Who says I don't invest in stock? lol This money I spent is a fraction of what I make a year.
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Because both consoles are weak compare with PC,whoever says otherwise is a complete console fanboy.
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#79 m3Boarder32
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[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"]

You payed $900 dollars in videocards alone, and you're wondering why your PC is so much more powerful? :lol:

"but but my PC can download MP3's :cry:"

Yah, so what? My consoles play HD DVD and Blu-ray movies. That alone makes my consoles a better media device for my home theater setup.

rimnet00

Mine plays x.264 movies, which is a H.254 video codec. The same one used on Bluray and HD-DVD movies. :)

Unless you are downloading 30-50GB files, they obviously aren't the same video and audio quality as having the actual disk.

x.264 uses much higher compression then h.264, resulting in a 1:.99 conversion. You do however need a good CPU to handle x.264 though, because of its insane compression ratio.

Um ok...It's still not the same video and audio quality as Blu-ray and HD DVD...These downloadable movies on the internet are like 10GB max..

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]You should do something better with your money -- try investing/buying stock.rimnet00
Who says I don't invest in stock? lol This money I spent is a fraction of what I make a year.

Aw, I see -- good, good. But,You to find yourself a woman buddy. Spending that much money on gaming in just ... strange.
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#81 m3Boarder32
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[QUOTE="Polaris_choice"]

Rimnet I see you here all the time and all you do is bash consoles you dont own either a PS3 or 360 and no Crysis running on a year old pc doesnt look better then any console game which futher proves you dontown a console. And yes both the PS3 and 360 run Cod4 at the highest settings any pc card a year ago isnt going to run the game at 60fps. And you want to compare Bioshock gamespot already did the comparison and showed the 360 version looked virtually identical to the game running on max settings and you can look atthe benmarks of cards that came out a year ago and there not running it better then the 360 so go home fakeboy.

rimnet00

Pictures incoming.......

Wow, that's ugly. People actually go in there to watch movies and play games? I'd be emberassed to post those pictures.

Where are the left and right surround speakers? Where is the center channel?

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[QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]You should do something better with your money -- try investing/buying stock.Stevo_the_gamer
Who says I don't invest in stock? lol This money I spent is a fraction of what I make a year.

Aw, I see -- good, good. But,You to find yourself a woman buddy. Spending that much money on gaming in just ... strange.

He should use some of that money on a center channel :lol:

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#83 rimnet00
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Um ok...It's still not the same video and audio quality as Blu-ray and HD DVD...These downloadable movies on the internet are like 10GB max..

m3Boarder32

You are the same guy who was trying to convince everyone that FLAC and WMV Audia was two channel stereo. I suggest you do some reading before trying to argue with me.

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#84 rimnet00
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[QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]You should do something better with your money -- try investing/buying stock.Stevo_the_gamer
Who says I don't invest in stock? lol This money I spent is a fraction of what I make a year.

Aw, I see -- good, good. But,You to find yourself a woman buddy. Spending that much money on gaming in just ... strange.

Eh, what exactly makes you think you know my financial situation? Gaming is one of the cheapest hobbies you could have. If you think this is strange, them I'm sure you would be floored if I told you how much I will be paying for the 2008 M3 in 6 months.

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#85 rimnet00
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He should use some of that money on a center channel :lol:

m3Boarder32

How about taking a closer look at the picture. It's on the center shelf.

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#86 m3Boarder32
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[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"]

Um ok...It's still not the same video and audio quality as Blu-ray and HD DVD...These downloadable movies on the internet are like 10GB max..

rimnet00

You are the same guy who was trying to convince everyone that FLAC and WMV Audia was two channel stereo. I suggest you do some reading before trying to argue with me.

I suggest you read on how many bitrates HDMI can handle, how many bitrates analoug outs can handle, and how many bitrates optical and coaxial handle.

HDMI Soundcards simply pass optical audio thru HDMI, it's not true HDMI Audio.

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#87 m3Boarder32
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[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"]

He should use some of that money on a center channel :lol:

rimnet00

How about taking a closer look at the picture. It's on the center shelf.

It's still a FUGLY room :lol:

Where are the surrounds? Post pics of them too

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#88 rimnet00
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[QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"]

He should use some of that money on a center channel :lol:

m3Boarder32

How about taking a closer look at the picture. It's on the center shelf.

It's still a FUGLY room :lol:

Where are the surrounds? Post pics of them too

Ya it is, I way too lazy to be bothered with fung'shway

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[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"]

He should use some of that money on a center channel :lol:

rimnet00

How about taking a closer look at the picture. It's on the center shelf.

It's still a FUGLY room :lol:

Where are the surrounds? Post pics of them too

Ya it is, I way too lazy to be bothered with fung'shway

Tell Fung i said Hi :D