Why doesn't Playstation have an iconic character that people actually care about?

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#1  Edited By IAmTheTruth101
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I just realized that MS has 3 characters in Smash. Banjo and Steve as playable and Vault Boy as a trophy. Also MC is generally one of the most requested and desired potential characters in Smash

But I look at the Playstation side and....nothing....no Kratos...where's Joel? Maybe Abby can be in Smash?

It just hit me how in the grand scheme of things, Playstation characters are simply not iconic, lame and generic

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#2 R4gn4r0k
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I thought Blinx was the Microsoft mascot?

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#3 stacweed11
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I would love to see ratchet and clank, jak and daxter, sly cooper and Kratos in smash. I dont think sony is willing to pimp their cast out yet....

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#4 deactivated-62852ef1135c6
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They had Joel.

Look how that went.

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#5 Gym_Lion
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Maybe they just don't have the...

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#6 madsnakehhh
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Who in his right mind would consider Steve an iconic MS character ? Also Banjo? most people still remember Banjo for the N64 games.

I would argue that Kratos is a much more iconic character than all that MS has.

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#7 Telekill
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Playstation goes through various mascots. PS1 was Crash and Sweet Tooth. PS2 was Kratos and ICO. PS3 was Nathan Drake. PS4 was Nathan Drake and Joel. PS5 thus far is Astrobot.

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#9  Edited By Eoten
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@iamthetruth101 said:

I just realized that MS has 3 characters in Smash. Banjo and Steve as playable and Vault Boy as a trophy. Also MC is generally one of the most requested and desired potential characters in Smash

But I look at the Playstation side and....nothing....no Kratos...where's Joel? Maybe Abby can be in Smash?

It just hit me how in the grand scheme of things, Playstation characters are simply not iconic, lame and generic

Nobody wanted to see Abby smash before, no one wants to see it now ;-).

And the closest thing Sony ever had to a real mascot character was maybe Spyro, but they ended that series on the PS1.

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#10  Edited By daredevils2k
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Well being number 1 console seller in the world , doesn’t require a mascot. Now MS needs all the mascots in the world to help the Xbox move from 3rd place to 2nd.

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#11 TheEroica  Moderator
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The real question is why we would obsess as a gaming community over mascots? Does the mascot equate to success in some way?

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#12 Star67
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I mean what kind of question is this?

Just because a Sony Character isn't in SMASH means they don't have any memorable mascots?

I mean Solid Snake and Cloud are in Smash, good enough haha

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#13  Edited By deactivated-620299e29a26a
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I personally don't really think being a DLC character in a Nintendo Brawler is a measure of how iconic a mascot is for a company. Jin from Ghost of Tsushima and Nathan Drake from Uncharted are so Iconic at this point they are getting movies about the characters.

Nintendo is the master of mascots but as far as Microsoft goes, I think Master Chief is pretty generic seeing as how we already had a green space marine that doesn't talk a decade before Halo came out. They do however, have the iconic Craig the Brute that was made into lots of memes.

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#14 lamprey263
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They got Kratos though. Hardly any of the gaming legend badasses are that badass.

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Before GoW reboot, i would've agreed, but not anymore. This is as good as it gets. Perfectly acted. Great design. What else do you want?

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#16 WitIsWisdom
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As if being in Smash Bros is anything to go off of.

That said, I never really liked the franchise until the newest one and even it's just meh.

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#17 uninspiredcup
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They have that big muscle trans person that upset internet men.

And the rip off Indiana Jones guy.

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#18  Edited By Nonstop-Madness
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Which generation of PlayStation? And what qualifies a character as an iconic character for X platform?

The reason I ask is because there's only been one Banjo game made under the Xbox banner and, that was 13 years ago.

I'd argue Banjo is an iconic Nintendo character and, not a Microsoft one.

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What I'm getting at is ... I'd go as far as to consider "third party" characters like Crash and, Spyro as iconic PlayStation characters.

Fwiw, Kratos is in Fortnite. lol

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#19  Edited By uninspiredcup
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Even though he's not actually Sony brand, I think a lot of people associated Solid Snake with the brand, probably more so than Naughty Dog or The God Of War man.

Going back further, same with Final Fantasy (namely 7) and Tomb Raider.

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#21 Eoten
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@TheEroica said:

The real question is why we would obsess as a gaming community over mascots? Does the mascot equate to success in some way?

It has for Nintendo.

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#22  Edited By xantufrog  Moderator
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@iamthetruth101:

Banjo is seen as a Nintendo character IMO

Who the hell is Steve (serious question)

And Vault Boy is not (yet) considered an MS character.

If they WERE to be represented in Smash it would be MC and... IDK, Marcus Fenix or some shit?

Give it 10 years - then all the Bethesda, Ninja Theory, etc stuff will have had a few showings on Xbox and come to better represent them than they do now.

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#23  Edited By mrbojangles25
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Console manufacturers don't make games, they shouldn't have a mascot.

Developers make games, they make characters. Stop worshipping the hardware manufacturers when you should be praising the developer.

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@hardwenzen: Is that HHH, i think the WWE should sue for character infringement.

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#25 deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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@xantufrog: Wait, you don't know who Steve is?

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#26 xantufrog  Moderator
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@i_p_daily: lol, no? I mean, I know Steves...

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#27 sakaiXx
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Personally vastly prefer it. I mean I really don't want to see how nintendo milked Mario and Pokemon. Idk how those fans buy them same game every year but I am grateful its not on PlayStation.

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@xantufrog: You must live in a MINE or this is some sort of witch CRAFT....you follow?

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@mrbojangles25 said:

Console manufacturers don't make games, they shouldn't have a mascot.

Developers make games, they make characters. Stop worshipping the hardware manufacturers when you should be praising the developer.

Idk, that playstation studios logo or other equivalent seems indicate something else.

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@i_p_daily said:

@xantufrog: You must live in a MINE or this is some sort of witch CRAFT....you follow?

Let me guess... Terraria?

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#31 omegaMaster
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Why don't you send an email to Nintendo about why they won't let iconic Playstation characters be added.

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#32 mrbojangles25
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@sakaixx said:
@mrbojangles25 said:

Console manufacturers don't make games, they shouldn't have a mascot.

Developers make games, they make characters. Stop worshipping the hardware manufacturers when you should be praising the developer.

Idk, that playstation studios logo or other equivalent seems indicate something else.

They still don't make games, though.

But fair enough, I guess they own the content, so it's theirs to use.

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#33 sakaiXx
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@mrbojangles25 said:
@sakaixx said:
@mrbojangles25 said:

Console manufacturers don't make games, they shouldn't have a mascot.

Developers make games, they make characters. Stop worshipping the hardware manufacturers when you should be praising the developer.

Idk, that playstation studios logo or other equivalent seems indicate something else.

They still don't make games, though.

But fair enough, I guess they own the content, so it's theirs to use.

Actually, explain. Console manufacturers literally built/acquire their own studios and invested money and talents to make contents for their platform and own the IP.

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#34 mojito1988
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Ratchet and Clank>all MS mascots.

(To be honest Ratchet and Clank is the only Sony IP I even care for but I LOVE IT!!!!!)

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I think of Nathan Drake when I think of recent playstation.

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#36  Edited By SolidGame_basic
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If MS is so great why have they been last place since its existence?

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#37 xantufrog  Moderator
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@i_p_daily: oh good grief - that guy? Lol. Ah yes, the famous Steve

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#38  Edited By IAmTheTruth101
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@madsnakehhh said:

Who in his right mind would consider Steve an iconic MS character ? Also Banjo? most people still remember Banjo for the N64 games.

I would argue that Kratos is a much more iconic character than all that MS has.

Does Microsoft own Steve? Do they own Banjo? Then they're MS characters...this is some poor rationalization and mental gymnastics, they've owned Steve for more than 1/2 of Minecraft's entire life and they've owned Banjo for nearly 2 decades now and no...Kratos is about as iconic as a turd that's been sitting out in the sun for 3 days

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@xantufrog: The only reason i knew his name was, well Heath Slater said it best, because i've got kids lol.

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#40 DaVillain  Moderator
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@i_p_daily said:

@hardwenzen: Is that HHH, i think the WWE should sue for character infringement.

People made some cool arts ahead of God of War 4 release:

Triple H body is basically just as built as Kratos.

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@davillain-: Like i said WWE should sue lol.

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@iamthetruth101: Lol, you alts don't even put any effort into this do you?

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They would if they just bought the metal gear franchise.

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#44 Silentchief
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Smash is about characters who appear on a Nintendo platform. So none of them should be in Smash.

Talking about iconic Characters Sony has some of the most in the industry.

Kratos, Ratchet, Clank, Jax, Daxter, Nathan Drake. They are all legendary status.

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#45 Silentchief
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@iamthetruth101 said:
@madsnakehhh said:

Who in his right mind would consider Steve an iconic MS character ? Also Banjo? most people still remember Banjo for the N64 games.

I would argue that Kratos is a much more iconic character than all that MS has.

Does Microsoft own Steve? Do they own Banjo? Then they're MS characters...this is some poor rationalization and mental gymnastics, they've owned Steve for more than 1/2 of Minecraft's entire life and they've owned Banjo for nearly 2 decades now and no...Kratos is about as iconic as a turd that's been sitting out in the sun for 3 days

MS didn't create shit they just bought them after the fact. Regardless Kratos is more iconic then anyone MS has with maybe the exception of Master Chief.

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@silentchief: They're not legendary status, they're boring af characters is what they are.

Sony hasn't create a decent character yet.

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#48 deactivated-654dc0d1e0e5b
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@madsnakehhh: "I would argue that Kratos is a much more iconic character than all that MS has"

Kratos more iconic than the Master Chief? 😂😂

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@i_p_daily: I can always count on you for a laugh 😂😆😂

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@rmiller365 said:

I personally don't really think being a DLC character in a Nintendo Brawler is a measure of how iconic a mascot is for a company. Jin from Ghost of Tsushima and Nathan Drake from Uncharted are so Iconic at this point they are getting movies about the characters.

Nintendo is the master of mascots but as far as Microsoft goes, I think Master Chief is pretty generic seeing as how we already had a green space marine that doesn't talk a decade before Halo came out. They do however, have the iconic Craig the Brute that was made into lots of memes.

Though, to be fair, they are asking for another Space Marine of the "Traverse through Hell" variety (which doesn't make much sense, in my honest opinion as he resonates more with PC gamers than he ever will Nintendo).