Why doesn't Sony secure Exclusives?

I'm just wondering, why?

Is it because they know MS will outbid them?
Is it because they are confident?
Is it because they are happy with their new exclusive games? (Resistance, Killzone. LBP)

I'm asking because with so many exclusives being shared with MS, I wonder what Sony's strategy is.

Of course I don't really care that we have to share with the 360 as this is not a fanboy question-- I'm just wondering what's Sony's stance on them losing a majority of their exclusives.

My guess is that they say, "Why spend money to secure exclusivity for a game that people will play on our console anyway when we can spend that money to make new games?" That's the only logical reason I see them having or the biggest reason.Blackification

That's exactly what I'm thinking. Why waste money to secure something when you can make a whole new IP?

I don't think its really on Sony, its just these third party companies just love Jumping In because the 360 is where the money is at.

[QUOTE="Blackification"]My guess is that they say, "Why spend money to secure exclusivity for a game that people will play on our console anyway when we can spend that money to make new games?" That's the only logical reason I see them having or the biggest reason.dream431ca

That's exactly what I'm thinking. Why waste money to secure something when you can make a whole new IP?

Because some IPs actually push consoles. Then again it's nice to see sony announcing quite a few games, thier keynote should be decent.

I don't think its really on Sony, its just these third party companies just love Jumping In because the 360 is where the money is at.

ReverseCycology

But the question is why doesn't Sony pay them off to not go to the 360?

I don't think its really on Sony, its just these third party companies just love Jumping In because the 360 is where the money is at.

ReverseCycology

wrong wii is where the money is at im surprised the third party devs are not jumping all over this thing. Cheaper, easy to develop for i mean WTF???

[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

I don't think its really on Sony, its just these third party companies just love Jumping In because the 360 is where the money is at.

njean777

wrong wii is where the money is at im surprised the third party devs are not jumping all over this thing. Cheaper, easy to develop for i mean WTF???

That's a good point.

[QUOTE="njean777"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

I don't think its really on Sony, its just these third party companies just love Jumping In because the 360 is where the money is at.

dream431ca

wrong wii is where the money is at im surprised the third party devs are not jumping all over this thing. Cheaper, easy to develop for i mean WTF???

That's a good point.

Not really because Nintendo can survive with their first party games. They don't really need these third party games. Because if these third party comes to the Wii, it'll be casual friendly games. So the 360 got the hardcore and casual gaming, more money for these companies. Also Sony isn't really making an impact with hardware, so whenever or if ever the PS3 hardware numbers are more attractive for these companies, that's when games will be exclusive.

[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

I don't think its really on Sony, its just these third party companies just love Jumping In because the 360 is where the money is at.

njean777

wrong wii is where the money is at im surprised the third party devs are not jumping all over this thing. Cheaper, easy to develop for i mean WTF???

[QUOTE="dream431ca"][QUOTE="njean777"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

I don't think its really on Sony, its just these third party companies just love Jumping In because the 360 is where the money is at.

ReverseCycology

wrong wii is where the money is at im surprised the third party devs are not jumping all over this thing. Cheaper, easy to develop for i mean WTF???

That's a good point.

Not really because Nintendo can survive with their first party games. They don't really need these third party games. Because if these third party comes to the Wii, it'll be casual friendly games. So the 360 got the hardcore and casual gaming, more money for these companies. Also Sony isn't really making an impact with hardware, so whenever or if ever the PS3 hardware numbers are more attractive for these companies, that's when games will be exclusive.

But look at how much money those third parties could make if they made a fantastic casual game on the Wii. They would make so much more than on the 360. So why aren't they?

I'm just wondering, why?

Is it because they know MS will outbid them?
Is it because they are confident?
Is it because they are happy with their new exclusive games? (Resistance, Killzone. LBP)

I'm asking because with so many exclusives being shared with MS, I wonder what Sony's strategy is.

Of course I don't really care that we have to share with the 360 as this is not a fanboy question-- I'm just wondering what's Sony's stance on them losing a majority of their exclusives.

GameFreakJason

For the best answer, try asking sony. My guess would be because they're making new ips.

1st and 2nd party are all that matter.X360PS3AMD05

Not true in my opinion. Why leave out third party?

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]1st and 2nd party are all that matter.Soulja_West

Not true in my opinion. Why leave out third party?

It's not about leaving them out, it's letting them decide for themselves.

But look at how much money those third parties could make if they made a fantastic casual game on the Wii. They would make so much more than on the 360. So why aren't they?

dream431ca

Look at games like No More Heroes, Boom Blox, Manhunt, Okami, etc. it had a hard time to make 360 software sales numbers. The Wii is for mainly for casuals, so if the third party game isn't really a big hit and casual friendly, it'll have a hard time selling like the games I've listed. Besides I don't really want these third parties to dumb down their games so it can be casual friendly.

[QUOTE="Soulja_West"]

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]1st and 2nd party are all that matter.dream431ca

Not true in my opinion. Why leave out third party?

It's not about leaving them out, it's letting them decide for themselves.

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

But look at how much money those third parties could make if they made a fantastic casual game on the Wii. They would make so much more than on the 360. So why aren't they?

ReverseCycology

Look at games like No More Heroes, Boom Blox, Manhunt, Okami, etc. it had a hard time to make 360 software numbers. The Wii is for mainly for casuals, so if the third party game isn't really a big hit and casual friendly, it'll have a hard time selling like the games I've listed. Besides I don't really want these third parties to dumb down their games so it can be casual friendly.

Third parties don't care. If they want the most money, the Wii is where it's at.

[QUOTE="dream431ca"][QUOTE="Soulja_West"]

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]1st and 2nd party are all that matter.Tiefster

Not true in my opinion. Why leave out third party?

It's not about leaving them out, it's letting them decide for themselves.

True. How things change. Sony is still doing what they were doing before. I think they are relying heavily on their first and second party games to make an impact. If they do, then the third parties will probably follow.

They have a good 1st and 2nd party. And apparently they are securing 11 PS3 games all published by SCEJ. So they can't go multi. They are securing White Knight as well.3rd party games need to go multi nowadays. Devs aren't making enough developing on one console. So they go multi to make a profit.DeadSpaceXIII

This is very true. As long as it keeps companies from going under.

Because they don't have the money to put out to do so, I believe PS3s are currently selling at a loss. Taking more hits with the lowest selling console isn't a wise business decision.Espada12

It has nothing to do with that. Games are more expensive to make. Software developers have to cover their cost. It has nothign to do with sony.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]Because they don't have the money to put out to do so, I believe PS3s are currently selling at a loss. Taking more hits with the lowest selling console isn't a wise business decision.mushi799

It has nothing to do with that. Games are more expensive to make. Software developers have to cover their cost. It has nothign to do with sony.

Huh I believe this thread title is *why doesn't sony secure exclusives* not * Why do developers go multiplat*

because they are being smart and just letting multiplats go and working on 1st and 2nd party gamesnjean777

They werent multiplats before they were let go, and its far from smart.

Games are really expensive to make so devs should be able to cash in on as many platforms as they can. 1st and 2nd party are what will make someone buy a console.X360PS3AMD05

Makes you wonder why 3rd party release games on the 360 first or do not even bother with the PS3. They say they want to make money, but do not act like it.

I don't think its really on Sony, its just these third party companies just love Jumping In because the 360 is where the money is at.

ReverseCycology

I'd say this is the truest so far. 3rd party developers are going multiplat to get money from both consoles instead of just one. That's why PS3 is gettign most 3rd party 360 games also, only MS still manages to get 1 year exclusive rights... just to delay it, to rub it in, lol.

sony is pushing its 1st party and 2nd party exclusives and we all know what kind of great exclusives they had from last gen and they are confident that the continuation of those franchises will do the job.

ms is pushing for third party exclusives some unproven some proven.

both have a good strategy end of the day

These 11 exclusives are going to be released in what year? should i expect them soon or more to the end of the PS3's so called "10 year life-cycle" ? sony saying "11 exclusives" is little more than a disguise for Sony's philosphy this gen of "just wait". Reason why Nintendo can survive on 1st party exclusives and Sony cannot is because Nintendo are the best developers in the world while Sony's are not even hold a candle to them! Dibdibdobdobo

demons souls we have heard nothing about and is out 2009.....jus cos they havent announced the games before doesnt mean they havent started development on it :roll:

These 11 exclusives are going to be released in what year? should i expect them soon or more to the end of the PS3's so called "10 year life-cycle" ? sony saying "11 exclusives" is little more than a disguise for Sony's philosphy this gen of "just wait". Reason why Nintendo can survive on 1st party exclusives and Sony cannot is because Nintendo are the best developers in the world while Sony's are not even able to hold a candle to them! Every single game which i wanted for the PS3 is on the 360 so why bother wasting money upon a more expensive console which has very little variety in games to its competitor? Their is no real variety between the 2 so people will just look at the prices and buy the cheapest which is a 360. Exclusives sell a console.Dibdibdobdobo

To be honest the only nintendo franchises I ever want from nintendo are Zelda and Metroid and we all know how long those games take. Im pretty sure TP didint come fast as lighting.

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]These 11 exclusives are going to be released in what year? should i expect them soon or more to the end of the PS3's so called "10 year life-cycle" ? sony saying "11 exclusives" is little more than a disguise for Sony's philosphy this gen of "just wait". Reason why Nintendo can survive on 1st party exclusives and Sony cannot is because Nintendo are the best developers in the world while Sony's are not even hold a candle to them! superjim42

demons souls we have heard nothing about and is out 2009.....jus cos they havent announced the games before doesnt mean they havent started development on it :roll:

2009? You sure? You dont know Sony very well if you dont expect to hear those magic words when Demon Souls is close to its so called release of "just wait".

I think it would cost a lot to secure exclusives at the moment, almost every country is having economical difficulties and at times like this it is better to not have all your eggs in one basket, add that to the fact the Japanese market seems to have lost the plot a little and the xbox doing so well this gen over here and there is your answer.

I do think its a bad idea to rely on first and second party software though, it didn't work out so well for Nintendo or Sega and their stuff at the time was top notch.

[QUOTE="superjim42"]

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]These 11 exclusives are going to be released in what year? should i expect them soon or more to the end of the PS3's so called "10 year life-cycle" ? sony saying "11 exclusives" is little more than a disguise for Sony's philosphy this gen of "just wait". Reason why Nintendo can survive on 1st party exclusives and Sony cannot is because Nintendo are the best developers in the world while Sony's are not even hold a candle to them! Dibdibdobdobo

demons souls we have heard nothing about and is out 2009.....jus cos they havent announced the games before doesnt mean they havent started development on it :roll:

2009? You sure? You dont know Sony very well if you dont expect to hear those magic words when Demon Souls is close to its so called release of "just wait".

wow you are one those ppl who still sticks to the just wait arguements :lol:

demon souls being made by scej and from software...coming out 2009.

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]These 11 exclusives are going to be released in what year? should i expect them soon or more to the end of the PS3's so called "10 year life-cycle" ? sony saying "11 exclusives" is little more than a disguise for Sony's philosphy this gen of "just wait". Reason why Nintendo can survive on 1st party exclusives and Sony cannot is because Nintendo are the best developers in the world while Sony's are not even able to hold a candle to them! Every single game which i wanted for the PS3 is on the 360 so why bother wasting money upon a more expensive console which has very little variety in games to its competitor? Their is no real variety between the 2 so people will just look at the prices and buy the cheapest which is a 360. Exclusives sell a console.finalfantasy94

To be honest the only nintendo franchises I ever want from nintendo are Zelda and Metroid and we all know how long those games take. Im pretty sure TP didint come fast as lighting.

3 Years you waited for sequels on both. Now i cannot be bothered to check when they was announced.

I'm just wondering, why?

Is it because they know MS will outbid them?
Is it because they are confident?
Is it because they are happy with their new exclusive games? (Resistance, Killzone. LBP)

I'm asking because with so many exclusives being shared with MS, I wonder what Sony's strategy is.

Of course I don't really care that we have to share with the 360 as this is not a fanboy question-- I'm just wondering what's Sony's stance on them losing a majority of their exclusives.

GameFreakJason

These 11 exclusives are going to be released in what year? should i expect them soon or more to the end of the PS3's so called "10 year life-cycle" ? sony saying "11 exclusives" is little more than a disguise for Sony's philosphy this gen of "just wait". Reason why Nintendo can survive on 1st party exclusives and Sony cannot is because Nintendo are the best developers in the world while Sony's are not even able to hold a candle to them! Every single game which i wanted for the PS3 is on the 360 so why bother wasting money upon a more expensive console which has very little variety in games to its competitor? Their is no real variety between the 2 so people will just look at the prices and buy the cheapest which is a 360. Exclusives sell a console.Dibdibdobdobo

They can't afford it......that is the correct and short answer.

Look at it this way.....MS can't afford to buy them as exclusives either so at least cows have that lol.

Why doesn't Sony secure exclusives? Why doesn't MS? The fact is that it's not like these multiplats aren't coming out on Sony's machine, its just they are now coming out on both. And why shouldn't they? It is us as gamers with our insatiable demand for higher gameplay and better graphics that have continued to push these companies to swell their per title budgets.

We didn't notice MS losing exclusives going from the Xbox to 360 because the Xbox didn't have that many outside of it's first party titles. Sony had way more, with 3/4th of 'em being 3rd party titles. But now, big blockbuster games have $100 Million+ Budgets and they have to recoop their losses. Sony not only investing, but growing their first party line is exactly what they neeeded so that they could distinquish their console from Microsoft. Think about it, Sony has Resistance and Killzone, MS has Gears and Halo.