Why doesnt the 360 get credit for outselling the PS3 on almost all multiplats?

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#1 ProjectNatalFan
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RDR a rockstar game is currently selling more on the 360 than the PS3. This is pretty much always the case, maybe a few games like Final Fantasy XXIII but most of the time the 360 outsells the PS3 counterpart by a very good margin. I see all the 360 is going to be overtaken, the 360 is dead, this and that negatively about the 360, but can we give credit where credit is due?

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Because Sales =/= Quality and Multiplats are not important in the SW metagame....

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Because SW is laughably petty, and multiplats might as well not exist in this arena.

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#4 Half-Way
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Because Sales =/= Quality and Multiplats are not important in the SW metagame....

siddhu33

well that one dosent make sense, because multiplats are better on the 360 aswell as they sell more O,o

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#5 ProjectNatalFan
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I would think this would matter if it was the other way around though Im sure.

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#6 emorainbo
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Joke Topic? The fanboys on here never shut up about sales, the 360 gets credit ALL THE TIME, even when it probably shouldn't.

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#8 SaltyMeatballs
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Blasphemy. You can only praise multiplat sales when it sells more on the PS3.
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Well the biggest market in the world is America right? And there are millions more 360's sold than ps3's in America right? So it only stands to say that the 360 will get more of the sales. Besides the ps3 versions of game are only 100k or 200k behind the 360 version, which I think is pretty good. Just a little food for thought.

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Credit because it launched over a year earlier and thus has more consoles out there?

Why doesnt the Wii get credit for PWNING the 360 in both games and sales?

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#11 zarshack
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360 still has a larger marketshare and alot of western games would appeal to the American market more then others, the ratio of 360s to PS3s being 2:1 in this case. Try looking at games made outside of the US.

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#12 Snugenz
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Credit because it launched over a year earlier and thus has more consoles out there?

Why doesnt the Wii get credit for PWNING the 360 in both games and sales?

lucky_star

Your sig is hypnotic ... whats it from and what is she doing ??

On Topic: multiplats dont count on SW blah blah.

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Credit because it launched over a year earlier and thus has more consoles out there?

Why doesnt the Wii get credit for PWNING the 360 in both games and sales?

lucky_star

Well,Wii and DS should get credit of being bigger financial success than all ps consoles combined plus PSP.

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#14 MattDistillery
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Well the biggest market in the world is America right? And there are millions more 360's sold than ps3's in America right? So it only stands to say that the 360 will get more of the sales. Besides the ps3 versions of game are only 100k or 200k behind the 360 version, which I think is pretty good. Just a little food for thought.

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Actually the USA isn't the biggest market...PAL areas are.

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Well the biggest market in the world is America right? And there are millions more 360's sold than ps3's in America right? So it only stands to say that the 360 will get more of the sales. Besides the ps3 versions of game are only 100k or 200k behind the 360 version, which I think is pretty good. Just a little food for thought.

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like Mordern Warfare 2 right?

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#16 Ragnarok1051
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Lemmings have never gotten off their high horse on this so I don't know what you're talking about. I should point out though that the 360 has a larger lead in N.A so of course multiplats would sell more.

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#17 ProjectNatalFan
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Lemmings have never gotten off their high horse on this so I don't know what you're talking about. I should point out though that the 360 has a larger lead in N.A so of course multiplats would sell more.

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pretty good for a dying console like your cow contingents like to say. Pretty good for MS considering its now year 5 into this gen and PS3 still cant beat it in sales. I would be on a high horse as well with all the smack your cow contingents talked at the beginning of this gen.

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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

Lemmings have never gotten off their high horse on this so I don't know what you're talking about. I should point out though that the 360 has a larger lead in N.A so of course multiplats would sell more.

ProjectNatalFan

pretty good for a dying console like your cow contingents like to say. Pretty good for MS considering its now year 5 into this gen and PS3 still cant beat it in sales. I would be on a high horse as well with all the smack your cow contingents talked at the beginning of this gen.

You mean 5 years for the 360....the PS3 has only been out 4 years
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[QUOTE="lucky_star"]

Credit because it launched over a year earlier and thus has more consoles out there?

Why doesnt the Wii get credit for PWNING the 360 in both games and sales?

Bus-A-Bus

Well,Wii and DS should get credit of being bigger financial success than all ps consoles combined plus PSP.

Exactly. Microsoft is in Last place!
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#20 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

Lemmings have never gotten off their high horse on this so I don't know what you're talking about. I should point out though that the 360 has a larger lead in N.A so of course multiplats would sell more.

ProjectNatalFan

pretty good for a dying console like your cow contingents like to say. Pretty good for MS considering its now year 5 into this gen and PS3 still cant beat it in sales. I would be on a high horse as well with all the smack your cow contingents talked at the beginning of this gen.

My cow contingents? :lol:
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#21 clone01
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[QUOTE="Persistantthug"]

[QUOTE="ProjectNatalFan"]

RDR a rockstar game is currently selling more on the 360 than the PS3. This is pretty much always the case, maybe a few games like Final Fantasy XXIII but most of the time the 360 outsells the PS3 counterpart by a very good margin. I see all the 360 is going to be overtaken, the 360 is dead, this and that negatively about the 360, but can we give credit where credit is due?

What kind of "credit" would you like to see, ProjectNatalFan?

because its multiplat, its often overlooked. and why did you quote his name, when using the quote feature accomplishes that task anyway?
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="Persistantthug"]

[QUOTE="ProjectNatalFan"]

RDR a rockstar game is currently selling more on the 360 than the PS3. This is pretty much always the case, maybe a few games like Final Fantasy XXIII but most of the time the 360 outsells the PS3 counterpart by a very good margin. I see all the 360 is going to be overtaken, the 360 is dead, this and that negatively about the 360, but can we give credit where credit is due?

What kind of "credit" would you like to see, ProjectNatalFan?

because its multiplat, its often overlooked. and why did you quote his name, when using the quote feature accomplishes that task anyway?

What's overlooked? If a game sells more on a system with a larger user base then isn't that expected?
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[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

[QUOTE="lucky_star"]

Credit because it launched over a year earlier and thus has more consoles out there?

Why doesnt the Wii get credit for PWNING the 360 in both games and sales?

lucky_star

Well,Wii and DS should get credit of being bigger financial success than all ps consoles combined plus PSP.

Exactly. Microsoft is in Last place!

Well...yea,but MS is making a TONS of money on 360,same cant be said for Sony.Not to mention that Sony had 150mil big user base last gen and this gen they are in last place,heh...irony,eh? :)

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Cows use sales only when it benefits them. If the PS3 starts outselling the 360 monthly, it matters. But when anything on the 360 sells better than the PS3 then sales don't matter.

It's the cow way of thinking....

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#25 Tyrant156
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Cows use sales only when it benefits them. If the PS3 starts outselling the 360 monthly, it matters. But when anything on the 360 sells better than the PS3 then sales don't matter.

It's the cow way of thinking....

KaoSXFACTOR
You're comparing console sales to game sales? Not every multiplat sells more on the 360
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#26 Ragnarok1051
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Cows use sales only when it benefits them. If the PS3 starts outselling the 360 monthly, it matters. But when anything on the 360 sells better than the PS3 then sales don't matter.

It's the cow way of thinking....

KaoSXFACTOR
You're saying this as if its just the cows who do this...
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because system wars is litteraly overrun with cows who will NEVER give the 360 credit for anything.

the xbox 360 could find the cure for cancer, discover proof that god is real and create the perfect woman for us all and cows would STILL find a way to hate on it or discredit it, when in reality all this time its really Sony they are angry at for dropping the ball on the launch date, Multiplats, the former high price tag, the dissapearing features..etc..etc....

blame this on 2006 and Epic games Gears of War 1 and how it completely owned the PS3's Launch that was hyped to heck for starting this deep bred hatred of the 360.

blame this on the fact that despite the RROD ( that Cows hop on endlessly ) that 360 is STILL more popular and still outselling PS3.

blame this on xbox live being blatantly superior to PSN despite psn being litteraly Given Away for FREE.

blame this on many things, but PS3 fans will never give MS any credit.

sad actually..i own both consoles and am better off for it.

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#28 gaming25
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Cows use sales only when it benefits them. If the PS3 starts outselling the 360 monthly, it matters. But when anything on the 360 sells better than the PS3 then sales don't matter.

It's the cow way of thinking....

KaoSXFACTOR
No. Its just that 360 gamers always bring it up as some type of "strength", so we post facts to show that the 360 isnt really doing that much of a better job in terms of sales.
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because system wars is litteraly overrun with cows who will NEVER give the 360 credit for anything.

the xbox 360 could find the cure for cancer, discover proof that god is real and create the perfect woman for us all and cows would STILL find a way to hate on it or discredit it, when in reality all this time its really Sony they are angry at for dropping the ball on the launch date, Multiplats, the former high price tag, the dissapearing features..etc..etc....

blame this on 2006 and Epic games Gears of War 1 and how it completely owned the PS3's Launch that was hyped to heck for starting this deep bred hatred of the 360.

blame this on the fact that despite the RROD ( that Cows hop on endlessly ) that 360 is STILL more popular and still outselling PS3.

blame this on xbox live being blatantly superior to PSN despite psn being litteraly Given Away for FREE.

blame this on many things, but PS3 fans will never give MS any credit.

sad actually..i own both consoles and am better off for it.

bryn8150
You know this could go either way with the same being said about 360 fanboys right? I swear cows could be blamed for world hunger around here.
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#30 Tyrant156
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because system wars is litteraly overrun with cows who will NEVER give the 360 credit for anything.

the xbox 360 could find the cure for cancer, discover proof that god is real and create the perfect woman for us all and cows would STILL find a way to hate on it or discredit it, when in reality all this time its really Sony they are angry at for dropping the ball on the launch date, Multiplats, the former high price tag, the dissapearing features..etc..etc....

blame this on 2006 and Epic games Gears of War 1 and how it completely owned the PS3's Launch that was hyped to heck for starting this deep bred hatred of the 360.

blame this on the fact that despite the RROD ( that Cows hop on endlessly ) that 360 is STILL more popular and still outselling PS3.

blame this on xbox live being blatantly superior to PSN despite psn being litteraly Given Away for FREE.

blame this on many things, but PS3 fans will never give MS any credit.

sad actually..i own both consoles and am better off for it.

bryn8150

How did they drop the ball on multiplats....

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[QUOTE="Tyrant156"] What's overlooked? If a game sells more on a system with a larger user base then isn't that expected?

in system wars terms, i believe it is. also, i think the margin is overlooked. MW2 is a good example of this.
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Because Sales =/= Quality and Multiplats are not important in the SW metagame....

siddhu33
Until it's to the advantage of Playstation fanboys, of course.
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It doesn't get credit because it's already the better system and multiplats proves that even more.
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[QUOTE="bryn8150"]

because system wars is litteraly overrun with cows who will NEVER give the 360 credit for anything.

the xbox 360 could find the cure for cancer, discover proof that god is real and create the perfect woman for us all and cows would STILL find a way to hate on it or discredit it, when in reality all this time its really Sony they are angry at for dropping the ball on the launch date, Multiplats, the former high price tag, the dissapearing features..etc..etc....

blame this on 2006 and Epic games Gears of War 1 and how it completely owned the PS3's Launch that was hyped to heck for starting this deep bred hatred of the 360.

blame this on the fact that despite the RROD ( that Cows hop on endlessly ) that 360 is STILL more popular and still outselling PS3.

blame this on xbox live being blatantly superior to PSN despite psn being litteraly Given Away for FREE.

blame this on many things, but PS3 fans will never give MS any credit.

sad actually..i own both consoles and am better off for it.

Ragnarok1051

You know this could go either way with the same being said about 360 fanboys right? I swear cows could be blamed for world hunger around here.

Some Lemmings really do think their ilk are the innocent victims, don't they? :? Whatever floats their boat. The 360 often does get credit for this.

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It gets credit for it when pretty much every set of NPD numbers are released.

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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="Tyrant156"] What's overlooked? If a game sells more on a system with a larger user base then isn't that expected?

in system wars terms, i believe it is. also, i think the margin is overlooked. MW2 is a good example of this.

MW2 is one game though, what about the PS3 multiplat games that sell more and what about the games that sell the same. I just don't see what's being overlooked. You'd have to compare each game on a case by case bases.
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lol wut? those are always brought into Sw's table :?
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[QUOTE="Tyrant156"][QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="Tyrant156"] What's overlooked? If a game sells more on a system with a larger user base then isn't that expected?

in system wars terms, i believe it is. also, i think the margin is overlooked. MW2 is a good example of this.

MW2 is one game though, what about the PS3 multiplat games that sell more and what about the games that sell the same. I just don't see what's being overlooked. You'd have to compare each game on a case by case bases.

borderlands, pretty much the entire cod series, and red dead redemption would suggest otherwise.
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someone said '' How did they ( Sony ) drop the ball on multiplats....

By not giving Developers a Dev kit that didnt read like circa 2026 stereo instructions.

by not waiting 5 years until Naughty dog finally figured out an engine that worked on the RSX without screen tearing and frame rate issues.

By not encouraging a user friendlier Development environment like on 360 where maximum results and revenue vs length of development time are balanced vs the PS3 which the same proposition is out of whack....( it will take years to master the RSX and millions of dollars of investment on PS3..Ken Kutaragi's words,,not mine )

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[QUOTE="Tyrant156"][QUOTE="clone01"] in system wars terms, i believe it is. also, i think the margin is overlooked. MW2 is a good example of this.clone01
MW2 is one game though, what about the PS3 multiplat games that sell more and what about the games that sell the same. I just don't see what's being overlooked. You'd have to compare each game on a case by case bases.

borderlands, pretty much the entire cod series, and red dead redemption would suggest otherwise.

What would those games suggest? Again not every multiplat sells more on the 360, Batman, Tekken 6 SF4 and RE5 are some examples. so no one is overlooking a system with a larger user base selling more multiplat games, it's expected.

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someone said '' How did they ( Sony ) drop the ball on multiplats....

By not giving Developers a Dev kit that didnt read like circa 2026 stereo instructions.

by not waiting 5 years until Naughty dog finally figured out an engine that worked on the RSX without screen tearing and frame rate issues.

By not encouraging a user friendlier Development environment like on 360 where maximum results and revenue vs length of development time are balanced vs the PS3 which the same proposition is out of whack....( it will take years to master the RSX and millions of dollars of investment on PS3..Ken Kutaragi's words,,not mine )

bryn8150
Waiting 5 years...then why does DMC4 and dead space look so great. UH I still see screen tearing on both consoles so I don't really see your point there. Have you ever heard of Nocturnal? It was created by insomniac to help developers with the PS3, all their coding is offered for free along with advice from Insomniac and developers from other studios.
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[QUOTE="bryn8150"]

someone said '' How did they ( Sony ) drop the ball on multiplats....

By not giving Developers a Dev kit that didnt read like circa 2026 stereo instructions.

by not waiting 5 years until Naughty dog finally figured out an engine that worked on the RSX without screen tearing and frame rate issues.

By not encouraging a user friendlier Development environment like on 360 where maximum results and revenue vs length of development time are balanced vs the PS3 which the same proposition is out of whack....( it will take years to master the RSX and millions of dollars of investment on PS3..Ken Kutaragi's words,,not mine )

Tyrant156
Waiting 5 years...then why does DMC4 and dead space look so great. UH I still see screen tearing on both consoles so I don't really see your point there. Have you ever heard of Nocturnal? It was created by insomniac to help developers with the PS3, all their coding is offered for free along with advice from Insomniac and developers from other studios.

Still ps3 multiplats are bad compared to the 360 version.
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[QUOTE="Tyrant156"][QUOTE="bryn8150"]

someone said '' How did they ( Sony ) drop the ball on multiplats....

By not giving Developers a Dev kit that didnt read like circa 2026 stereo instructions.

by not waiting 5 years until Naughty dog finally figured out an engine that worked on the RSX without screen tearing and frame rate issues.

By not encouraging a user friendlier Development environment like on 360 where maximum results and revenue vs length of development time are balanced vs the PS3 which the same proposition is out of whack....( it will take years to master the RSX and millions of dollars of investment on PS3..Ken Kutaragi's words,,not mine )

genaroll
Waiting 5 years...then why does DMC4 and dead space look so great. UH I still see screen tearing on both consoles so I don't really see your point there. Have you ever heard of Nocturnal? It was created by insomniac to help developers with the PS3, all their coding is offered for free along with advice from Insomniac and developers from other studios.

Still ps3 multiplats are bad compared to the 360 version.

No they aren't, it depends on the game
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Because the ones who hate are usually more vocal than the ones who praise.

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It does get credit, that's all you hear from lemmings. About how multiplats are better/sell better, and how much Halo sells. Basically sums up most pro-360 arguments.
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#46 genaroll
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[QUOTE="Tyrant156"][QUOTE="genaroll"][QUOTE="Tyrant156"] Waiting 5 years...then why does DMC4 and dead space look so great. UH I still see screen tearing on both consoles so I don't really see your point there. Have you ever heard of Nocturnal? It was created by insomniac to help developers with the PS3, all their coding is offered for free along with advice from Insomniac and developers from other studios.

Still ps3 multiplats are bad compared to the 360 version.

No they aren't, it depends on the game

That makes no sense.
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#47 RavenLoud
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1) NPD = US = 360 has almost double the userbase of the PS3. In fact, if you take into account the userbase ratio, almost every game that's not a shooter has a HIGHER sale ratio on the PS3. There was a link about it in 2009...can't seem to find it.

2) lol multiplats in SW?

3) The 360 does get credit, no one will argue about how it is a much more dev-friendly.

4) Apparently, some people (mostly the younger gamers) like the 360 controller more. I can understand why, but those people seem to always try to bash the DS3...(which leads to my "younger" statement aforementioned)

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#48 vaderhater
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Reality is a taboo here.

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#49 KaoSXFACTOR
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Cows use sales only when it benefits them. If the PS3 starts outselling the 360 monthly, it matters. But when anything on the 360 sells better than the PS3 then sales don't matter.

It's the cow way of thinking....

Tyrant156

You're comparing console sales to game sales? Not every multiplat sells more on the 360

Yeah how many PS3 multiplats outsell the 360's? Like 4-5?

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#50 Tyrant156
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[QUOTE="Tyrant156"][QUOTE="genaroll"] Still ps3 multiplats are bad compared to the 360 version.  genaroll
No they aren't, it depends on the game

That makes no sense.

LOL it doesn't, so you're saying every multiplat on the PS3 is worse than the 360 version?