Why doesn't the Wii brag?

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#1 Lalucar
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I always see the fanboys of the 360 and PS3 arguing. And latley there has been someone who seems obsessed with letting the PS3 owners know they are in 3rd place, of course he/she doesn't think the year head start should make a difference. Sure Sony isn't outselling anyone with the PS3, but they have three systems still selling good in the market. Plus it's been said PS3 sold more in its time so far, than the 360 did. I'm not bashing 360, but it could not be farther from the truth that the PS3 is failing and the plugs getting pulled soon. It has good games coming out, and a bright looking future. But this isn't about defending the PS3, people like Cole-Protocal like to gloat about the PS3's 3rd place, and the Xbox 360's 8 Million lead over us due to the excellent release. But do you realize that the Wii is outselling MS by 17 Million. Just google VG Charts. After I seen that I wondered where all the Wii Fanboys are, and why they aren't laughing at all the PS3 and MS Fanboys. Ps3 and 360 are fighting about 2nd place...Kind of stupid. Then it hit me, considering most of the Wii users are adults it's probably because they mature enough not to loathe someone over picking another game system, or boast because more people picked the Wii than PS3 and 360. Now I really can't wait to get a Wii, finally tried one and they deserve first. It may not be a system I can sit down and play for hours like my PS3, but when you have friends over, nothing compares to it. *Puts on my Flameproof suit*

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#2 Litchie
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Because Wii owners don't find the need to justify their purchase?
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#3 67gt500
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It's rude to brag, when you're number one...

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#4 thegoldenpoo
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They get flamed the hell out of because their system sucks at everything else.
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#5 farnham
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well because the wii already won there is no point of bragging.. the wii is everyones console.. you are nothing quote on quote "special" if you own it.. unlike the PS3
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#6 horgen  Moderator
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They crush us saleswise.. Why would they even need to brag?
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#7 Chutebox
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They're busy playing games.......

Sorry, couldn't resist!

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#8 Floppy_Jim
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They're a modest bunch.
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They have nothing to brag about besides sales, they boast about the only worthwhile games they have and ignore any mention of shovelware.
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#10 Zeppy007
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Because Wii owners don't find the need to justify their purchase?Litchie

Or theyre just embarssed that they bought something they never play

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#11 Zeppy007
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It may not be a system I can sit down and play for hours like my PS3, but when you have friends over, nothing compares to it. *Puts on my Flameproof suit*

Lalucar

well I play guitar hero or rock band with friends more then I play the wii as a whole

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#12 AnnoyedDragon
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Being the top of the sales charts is good for Nintendo, not necessarily good for the gamers.

Nintendo achieved the sales they have by targeting a broad audience of casual gamers and even none gamers, the hardcore Nintendo audience isn't too pleased about that.

If they boast about sales what's in those sales comes into question.

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#13 Blackbond
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They're busy playing games.......

Sorry, couldn't resist!

Chutebox

And yet they buy more then the PS3 owners :lol:

I love irony.

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#14 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

They're busy playing games.......

Sorry, couldn't resist!

Blackbond

And yet they buy more then the PS3 owners :lol:

I love irony.

Was a joke dude. Although i haven't played Wii in a long time, I still own one and wouldn't sell it.

And while saying that, gimme my damn Zelda Nintendo!

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#15 eklineage
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Wii are numba 1! Wii are numba 1!

I'm just excited for the 2009 titles.

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#16 dotWithShoes
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Being the top of the sales charts is good for Nintendo, not necessarily good for the gamers.

Nintendo achieved the sales they have by targeting a broad audience of casual gamers and even none gamers, the hardcore Nintendo audience isn't too pleased about that.

If they boast about sales what's in those sales comes into question.

AnnoyedDragon
I am a member of that so called "Nintendo hardcore audience".. I'm rather pleased if I must say so. I have a rather large library of quality games I can play on my Wii. Why would I be not pleased? I don't have to worry about my Wii dying, like my 360. So tell me, what am I supposed to be displeased about? Wii fit and Wii Music? Ok, Nintendo has had titles like t hat on their consoles since they first started. Its nothing new, only new to people who were born when the ps1 was introduced.
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#17 IIJuggaNottII
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Maybe because they dont care what hardcore gamers think. Matter of fact, they might not even care what another Wii owner thinks.
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#18 Junior_AIN
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Times have changed, usually a leading console would have better games, the more it sells, the more games it would receive. So in theory, when someone bragged in the past about sales, he was automatically bragging about more games and with more games, more quality games could come. That's the contrary with the Wii, it sells and sells, and the great games are being released for 360/PS3 anyway. No motive to be happy if you think about it, since none of the money of the sales are coming to our pockets, and no games to our consoles too.
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So tell me, what am I supposed to be displeased about? dotWithShoes

You tell me, Wii users are the ones that made noise about Nintendo abandoning them for casuals.

Since this is SW there is no way of me knowing if your comment is honest or damage control, I can only go by the general impression Wii users give off; which is something from the Nintendo fans themselves and not fabricated by hateboys.

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Because I dont care what anybody else thinks and I play the games that I enjoy. I honestly dont care that there is lots of shovelware I simply dont buy that garbage. I play my Wii as much as my 360 if not more, and even if it doesn't have good ports.
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So many people on here say Wii sucks, yet howdome it is selling so well. It must have something attracting so many people to buy it, it makes me want one just to see how it is sold out everywhere almost all year.
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So many people on here say Wii sucks, yet howdome it is selling so well. It must have something attracting so many people to buy it, it makes me want one just to see how it is sold out everywhere almost all year.Lalucar

The reason "so many people" in systems wars knock the Wii is because its a room full of Hardcore gamers. You wouldnt go to the gym and expect to spark up a positive conversation about Hanna Montana would you? In my opinion its selling because it targets a great demograph...Kids, and Casual gamers. Its smart thinking by Nintendo because they picked the gamers that are easy to please. Casual gamers and Kids dont care about Graphics, exclusives, download content, internet browsers, bluray on consoles etc. Plus its a great gift....If you know a child..and you want to get him a gift...get a Wii. Plus its a better baby sitting tool for kids.....better than getting them Gears of War 2 so that they can hack at locuts beasts while hearing profanity.

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They have nothing to brag about besides sales, they boast about the only worthwhile games they have and ignore any mention of shovelware.siLVURcross
They ignore any mention of shovelware because they don't buy shovelware.
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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]They have nothing to brag about besides sales, they boast about the only worthwhile games they have and ignore any mention of shovelware.Minishdriveby
They ignore any mention of shovelware because they don't buy shovelware.

so true.. and for the record i brag about exclusives because that's my deciding factor on a console.. and the wii had twice as many exclusives as the 360 this year

when i bought my 360, now THAT came with shovelware.. kungfu panda and lego indy nothnx i'll take wii sports over those anyday

no offense to lego indy i understand it's not as bad as kung fu panda but still.. the platforming sucks, the combat sucks, the puzzles suck.. why would i play a game thats subpar in every category..people defend those games till they're blue in the face about how they're for everyone but god forbid they play a wii game

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#25 eklineage
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who care sabout the loads of shovelware on the wii. I never heard of a person who is forced to buy shovelware.
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[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"]So tell me, what am I supposed to be displeased about? AnnoyedDragon

You tell me, Wii users are the ones that made noise about Nintendo abandoning them for casuals.

Since this is SW there is no way of me knowing if your comment is honest or damage control, I can only go by the general impression Wii users give off; which is something from the Nintendo fans themselves and not fabricated by hateboys.

No damage control, I'm no sheep, but I'm also not disappointed in my Wii. If people say they are hardcore Nintendo fans and say they are disappointed in the Wii's offerings, then they are NOT Nintendo fans at all.
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I always see the fanboys of the 360 and PS3 arguing. And latley there has been someone who seems obsessed with letting the PS3 owners know they are in 3rd place, of course he/she doesn't think the year head start should make a difference. Sure Sony isn't outselling anyone with the PS3, but they have three systems still selling good in the market. Plus it's been said PS3 sold more in its time so far, than the 360 did. I'm not bashing 360, but it could not be farther from the truth that the PS3 is failing and the plugs getting pulled soon. It has good games coming out, and a bright looking future. But this isn't about defending the PS3, people like Cole-Protocal like to gloat about the PS3's 3rd place, and the Xbox 360's 8 Million lead over us due to the excellent release. But do you realize that the Wii is outselling MS by 17 Million. Just google VG Charts. After I seen that I wondered where all the Wii Fanboys are, and why they aren't laughing at all the PS3 and MS Fanboys. Ps3 and 360 are fighting about 2nd place...Kind of stupid. Then it hit me, considering most of the Wii users are adults it's probably because they mature enough not to loathe someone over picking another game system, or boast because more people picked the Wii than PS3 and 360. Now I really can't wait to get a Wii, finally tried one and they deserve first. It may not be a system I can sit down and play for hours like my PS3, but when you have friends over, nothing compares to it. *Puts on my Flameproof suit*

Lalucar

i gotta agree to some extent. sure you can only play your wii for a fraction of the time you play yourps3. but first off, i dont know if i believe most wii owners are adults. im 21, had a wii since freshman yr of college, and sold it this past summer to a friends mom who bought it for his younger sisters.

i believe most wii users arrent on here bc, in all honesty, theres nothing to brag about imo. i had a wii for almost two years, and aside from guitar hero i never played it. ever. i bought super mario galaxy, i bought no more heroes. neither of them i finished. personally, i got so mad at looking at the thing that i had to sell it before i threw it out my window. sure, the things selling more than anything the vg world has ever seen, but thats honestly only because of the fact that the vg world has never seen anything like it. as far as stay at home mom's with 8 yearolds are concerned, its the 'thing for their kids to have' and 'everyones talking about it'. plus they can now play with their kids. now take this same mom, and show her a ps3- she'll believe its too overpriced, and thus she'lll buy a 360 if she doesnt buy a wii. add the fact that 360's been on the market longer than its competitors and you have your reasons for wii to be in first, MS in second, and sony in third.

me personally, im no effin fanboy. I own a ps3, and ill play both a 360 and a wii without hesitation. the fact is that sony's machine offers what i want- a console with great games, the ability to store 250 gigs (or more once i replace the hd again) of my music and movies, and a decent online service. what more could I ask for.

bottomline, get whats right for you, respect whats right for others, and if you dare to argue, make good points

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#28 chugachea
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Maybe because the Wii is a casual gamer's console and casual gamers couldnt care less...and the hardcore gaming fanboys feel bad for the wii for its lack of big titles??? think of a 7ft tall bully punching a toddler... =()()()()()()()()
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#29 CT-Link
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They don't brag because the second they do such thing, the rest of PC/360/PS3 gamers just say: "Look at what we're playing. Look at what you're playing. End of discussion."
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#30 naruto7777
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Because Wii owners don't find the need to justify their purchase?Litchie
its true they got no games all they play is sales
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Dude, its not that they are mature enough to not argue, its that they aren't "mature" enough to know how to use a computer.
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#32 di_sgt_barber
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Because the Wii's best game of this year was better on SNES.
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#33 di_sgt_barber
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Or maybe it's because the Wii audience is mostly people who are too old to bowl, too young to own an N64, or stupid enough to play Wii Music.
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So many people on here say Wii sucks, yet howdome it is selling so well. It must have something attracting so many people to buy it, it makes me want one just to see how it is sold out everywhere almost all year.Lalucar
It sells well because virtual bowling is teh greatest thing evar.
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Because the Wii's best game of this year was better on SNES.di_sgt_barber

Ummm... what game is that?

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#36 Yimbie
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Why brag about something that's $250? I have all 3 consoles and love each and every one of them. PS3 for my Bluray movies, Xbox 360 for its exclusives, and Wii for the fun games to play with friends. Bragging doesn't solve anything and help anyone but one own's self esteem. It's a little sad that people have to brag to others to make themselves feel better at the expense of the other person's happiness.
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Because 80% of wii loyalists don't own computers are either under 12 years old or over 70...just ask all the soccor moms who buy them for there tots who waggle the wii mote like a rattle and goo goo over the shiny thing moving on the screen...thats the wii crowd for you right there!! And yes I mistakingly got a wii early in the year...for the wife...for ddr and parties... guess how many times I played it in the last 8 months? 2x...yes and I play my ps3 everyday and pc/psp/ds almost everyday and
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Because I don't care about sales, I just play the games on it.
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They have nothing to brag about besides sales, they boast about the only worthwhile games they have and ignore any mention of shovelware.siLVURcross
to be fair does ANYONE mention shovelware? It's best if everyone ignores it and that's what everyone does, cows and lems are no exception
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I always see the fanboys of the 360 and PS3 arguing. And latley there has been someone who seems obsessed with letting the PS3 owners know they are in 3rd place, of course he/she doesn't think the year head start should make a difference. Sure Sony isn't outselling anyone with the PS3, but they have three systems still selling good in the market. Plus it's been said PS3 sold more in its time so far, than the 360 did. I'm not bashing 360, but it could not be farther from the truth that the PS3 is failing and the plugs getting pulled soon. It has good games coming out, and a bright looking future. But this isn't about defending the PS3, people like Cole-Protocal like to gloat about the PS3's 3rd place, and the Xbox 360's 8 Million lead over us due to the excellent release. But do you realize that the Wii is outselling MS by 17 Million. Just google VG Charts. After I seen that I wondered where all the Wii Fanboys are, and why they aren't laughing at all the PS3 and MS Fanboys. Ps3 and 360 are fighting about 2nd place...Kind of stupid. Then it hit me, considering most of the Wii users are adults it's probably because they mature enough not to loathe someone over picking another game system, or boast because more people picked the Wii than PS3 and 360. Now I really can't wait to get a Wii, finally tried one and they deserve first. It may not be a system I can sit down and play for hours like my PS3, but when you have friends over, nothing compares to it. *Puts on my Flameproof suit*

Lalucar
Why don't wii owners brag? They can't play sales.
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#41 VideoGameGuy
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[QUOTE="fatzebra"][QUOTE="Lalucar"]

I always see the fanboys of the 360 and PS3 arguing. And latley there has been someone who seems obsessed with letting the PS3 owners know they are in 3rd place, of course he/she doesn't think the year head start should make a difference. Sure Sony isn't outselling anyone with the PS3, but they have three systems still selling good in the market. Plus it's been said PS3 sold more in its time so far, than the 360 did. I'm not bashing 360, but it could not be farther from the truth that the PS3 is failing and the plugs getting pulled soon. It has good games coming out, and a bright looking future. But this isn't about defending the PS3, people like Cole-Protocal like to gloat about the PS3's 3rd place, and the Xbox 360's 8 Million lead over us due to the excellent release. But do you realize that the Wii is outselling MS by 17 Million. Just google VG Charts. After I seen that I wondered where all the Wii Fanboys are, and why they aren't laughing at all the PS3 and MS Fanboys. Ps3 and 360 are fighting about 2nd place...Kind of stupid. Then it hit me, considering most of the Wii users are adults it's probably because they mature enough not to loathe someone over picking another game system, or boast because more people picked the Wii than PS3 and 360. Now I really can't wait to get a Wii, finally tried one and they deserve first. It may not be a system I can sit down and play for hours like my PS3, but when you have friends over, nothing compares to it. *Puts on my Flameproof suit*

Why don't wii owners brag? They can't play sales.

That's why the Wii only plays games.
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Consoles don't talk.
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Because the sales/games speak for themselves.
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#45 TheSmitto
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They have nothing to brag about besides sales, they boast about the only worthwhile games they have and ignore any mention of shovelware.siLVURcross

Some wii games are horrible. Others are amazing. I bought one because I thought the wii would be fun, and it certainly is. I've played both the 360 and PS3, and they're both great. Happy? This stuff isn't going to get you guys anywhere. ;)

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#46 VideoGameGuy
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[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"][QUOTE="fatzebra"] Why don't wii owners brag? They can't play sales.fatzebra
That's why the Wii only plays games.

Games for 6 years olds, and teens with low attention spans. Oh, and old people. Hardly a gamer's console.

A gamer is someone plays games.. so all the people you mentioned count just as much as you do. You also have a very twisted view, but i'm not going to worry bout it.